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Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:46pm On Sep 19, 2019 |
John 1:1 in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God the spirit is needed to accept and know that the Word come Jesus is God 1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. without the Spirit a person cannot know things of the Spirit the Word being God is foolishness to false jw's the Holy Spirit being God is foolishness to false jw's etc. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 4:24pm On Sep 21, 2019 |
Barristter07: I wonder. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:43pm On Sep 21, 2019 |
blueAgent:Jesus was made so much better than the angels, it means Jesus is not an angel, this makes Jesus God Almighty |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:47pm On Sep 21, 2019 |
blueAgent:How do Trinitarians ignore the fact that God is the father of Jesus? Trinitarians only says that the father, the Son and the holy Spirit is one being. Which is properly backed by scriptures |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:49pm On Sep 21, 2019 |
Janosky:y are you bitter |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 7:00pm On Sep 21, 2019 |
Barristter07:No sir it wouldnt, saying all things was created through Jesus is to give us more information of how it was done. ( More pepper to your wounds is that, while Angels were made through Jesus, they were never called Jesus sons, nah, because all things including Jesus himself came from and through the Father, they are called the Fathers sons ) You should answer those questions |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 7:04pm On Sep 21, 2019 |
Barristter07:being a Son of God is not the same as been created by God it has to do bearing resemblance, relationship and special status or privileges just as a son has to a father. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 11:38pm On Sep 21, 2019 |
proverbs tells us that the Father possessed widom-the word, and john affirms that wisdon-the Word was with the Father: Pro 8:22 The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2Co_4:4 in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving ones, so that the light of the glorious gospel of Christ who is the image of God should not dawn on them. the unbelieving ones = the false jw's, among other that the devil has blinded Mat_10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 12:12am On Sep 22, 2019 |
Barristter07: lie lie™ barrister they are called son's of God and Jesus is God, as many scriptures show Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him(including man and everything that was made), and the world knew him not. ^^^ Jesus created man, therefor men are son's of Jesus - sons of God, the Word is God, john 1:1 +++ but men knew him not, and you still know Him not Joh 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 7:31am On Sep 22, 2019 |
solite3: One being that have capacity for different will and mind? |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 2:27pm On Sep 22, 2019 |
johnw47: Is there any meaning in this nonsense you posted? |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 2:29pm On Sep 22, 2019 |
johnw47: You are more confused than can be imagined. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Janosky: 10:38pm On Sep 22, 2019 |
Emusan:Compare Matt 11:25 & Acts 2:36. Matt 11:25, who did Jesus call "Lord of Heaven and Earth? Acts 2:36, who made Jesus a Lord? The Father's Lordship is Superior. Romans 15:6 "so that with one mind and one voice you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." John 20:17 "Jesus said, "for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.'" Last, last Apostle Paul is praying for Emusan to receive sense.... *** Ephesians 1:17 " I ask the glorious Father and God of our Lord Jesus Christ to give you his Spirit. The Spirit will make you wise and let you understand what it means to know God." |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 10:55pm On Sep 22, 2019 |
blueAgent: sewer mouth false accuser beelzebubagent not to you who has absolutely no understanding at all |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 10:57pm On Sep 22, 2019 |
blueAgent: sewer mouth false accuser beelzebubAgent only to one of absolutely no understanding at all |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 7:27am On Sep 24, 2019 |
blueAgent:Yes |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 10:06am On Sep 24, 2019 |
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Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 1:58pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
johnw47: If Jesus have sons, That makes him the Father . is Jesus the Father? So son of God means Son of Jesus , Then Jesus is son of himself ? Jesus has no father since he is now the Father ? The point: Jesus is not the source of creation . but beginning 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 2:04pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
solite3: A son has a beginning . undisputed Fact. Now lets go back to the main issue on source : If Jesus is the source of creation, Why Is No one called " Sons of Jesus " . ?? Matthew 5:45 " so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. " Isnt it clear who is the source ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Barristter07: 2:06pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
solite3: So nothing was Created through the Father ? U mean the bible lied ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 6:52pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
Barristter07: The trinity doctrine has boxed him into a corner which he cannot escape. 1 Like |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 6:54pm On Sep 24, 2019 |
solite3: John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me. Jesus is saying to us that he can do nothing without the father and that includes creation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 12:33am On Sep 25, 2019 |
Barristter07: lie lie™ barrister oh duh duh duh, once again, Jesus is the word Father and the Word is God, john 1:1 God(Father and the Word), made man: Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: Barristter07: such a confused one, you mean: sons(plural) of God means sons of Jesus, sons of God means just that: sons of God(Father and the Word is God) Barristter07: unbelievable confusion Barristter07: again unbelievable confusion Barristter07: the truth: God(Father and the Word) is the source of creation nothing was created without Jesus: Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. in your case lie lie, that should be: For God is not the author of "extreme confusion" |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 1:13am On Sep 25, 2019 |
Barristter07: how duh can one be, Jesus had a beginning as a man lie lie™ barrister, so as to not cause you further confusion, i'm not replying for anyone else who may believe diffrently to me, i am replying just for me Barristter07: of course God(Father and the word) is the source of creation as to your confusion about "sons of Jesus" it's been clearly explained to you although i know that nothing is clear to you, by the way Jesus the man never had any flesh offspring Barristter07: yes it's clear, but not to you, of course we are sons of the Father we are sons of God God is Father and the Word, john 1:1 |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by johnw47: 1:34am On Sep 25, 2019 |
Jesus is coming = God is coming: Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven. the Word of God is coming: Rev 19:13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. God is coming: 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. ^^^ all talking about the same event, Jesus - the Word of God - God, is coming |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:33am On Sep 25, 2019 |
blueAgent:If you cannot believe the scriptures then I cannot help you |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:42am On Sep 25, 2019 |
Barristter07:Jesus is the source of God's creation Rev 3vv14. Colossians 1vv16, says he created all things John 1 says without him nothing can be created which was created. This makes Jesus the source of creation and himself uncreated. Being called the sons of God is base on relationship with the father and bearing his image. Animals are not called sons of God although they God's creation but they have not the image of God and do not have such relationship as a son to a father. So being a Son to God is not the same as been created by him. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:45am On Sep 25, 2019 |
Barristter07:show me where it was written that all things were created through the father. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 6:50am On Sep 25, 2019 |
blueAgent:being dependent on the father does not indicate inferiority but loyalty. Jesus became a servant according to phil 2 on his own will. Do you expect a good servant to be on his own will? Jesus and his father are united in one purpose and will. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 7:12am On Sep 25, 2019 |
solite3: No one said Jesus is inferior by nature to his father. but the fact remains that Jesus been Son of God is not Co-equal to God becos he owes his existence to the father. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by blueAgent(m): 7:29am On Sep 25, 2019 |
solite3: Which scripture? You deny the word of God that proves that God and his son are 2 different personalities and you are here claiming scripture said. |
Re: The Trinity Doctrine Is a False doctrine and it is Unbiblical. by Nobody: 11:35am On Sep 25, 2019 |
blueAgent:@ bold if Jesus is equal to the father by his nature then they are coequal. Do you know the meaning of ones nature? God is not created by nature God is Almighty, omnipotent, omnipresent and infinite by nature If Jesus Jesus and his father are equal by nature. It means Jesus is equally uncreated, Almighty, inifinte,omnipotent, omnipresent just as his father else he would be inferior to the father. There is absolutely no where in the bible where Jesus is said to be a creation of God but instead without him nothing created can exist. |
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