solite3:
your problem us that you dont understand trinity.

Trinity simply states that God is one being but exist as three individuals and that each individual or persons are distinct from each other but are one God.
God is a trinity of persons, we humans are not hence we find it dufficult to understand. It is like trying to understand four dimension using three or lower dimension. Your problem is that you are trying to box God into your level.

See logic
why are you running from my other thread the mystery of 666, that exposes the origin of 666 and it's connection to the trinity doctrine?

https://www.nairaland.com/5424180/mystery-number-666

solite3:
your problem us that you dont understand trinity.

Trinity simply states that God is one being but exist as three individuals and that each individual or persons are distinct from each other but are one God.
God is a trinity of persons, we humans are not hence we find it dufficult to understand. It is like trying to understand four dimension using three or lower dimension. Your problem is that you are trying to box God into your level.

The Trinity doctrine says there are
THREE LITERAL GODS that are equal in
every way and that all THREE gods have
always existed. THREE gods that are co-
equal and co-eternal in other words.
But now we have a SERIOUS problem
because the Bible says there is only ONE
God.
SATAN via the Catholic Church says NO
PROBLEM…I have just the answer to
keep all deceived. We will teach that all
THREE GODS are really only ONE GOD!
1 + 1 + 1 = 1 !
THREE LITERAL GODS that are not really
3 GODS but 1 GOD. Make sense? No!
Why should it? It was made up by Satan
via the Catholic Church so Satan could
get worship and have Christians deny
the Father and Son and not even know
it !
Satan HATES the SON OF GOD and
wants us to deny Him. Not only that, but
we can only be saved by confessing that
Jesus is the Son of God. So how does
the Trinity doctrine deny the Father and
Son and give worship to Satan?
If they are 3 gods that have ALWAYS
existed, Jesus cannot really be a SON
and therefore God cannot really be a
FATHER.
And so the Bible now has hundreds of
lies! More unmistakable Scriptures are
denied than any other doctrine EVER !
And yet people just go on blindly
believing that it is right. Like lambs to
the slaughter as they say.
So God is not the Father of Christ and
Christ is not the Son of God says the
Trinity doctrine!
Every Scripture that says Jesus is the
Son of God is now a lie. Every Scripture
that says God is the Father is now a lie.
How many Scriptures suddenly become
a lie?....“HUNDREDS!”
The Bible says Jesus was God's Son
before He came to Earth. The Trinity
doctrine says No!
The Bible says Jesus is the Son of God.
The Trinity doctrine says No! He is just
ROLE PLAYING.
The Bible says God is the Father of
Christ. The Trinity doctrine says No! He
is just ROLE PLAYING.
Where is there ONE Scripture that even
hints they are not really a Father and
Son and that they are ROLE PLAYING?
IT DOES NOT EXIST !
The Bible says the Holy Spirit is the
“Spirit OF God” or the “Spirit OF the
Father.” The Trinity doctrine says No! It
claims it is something called “god the
spirit” which has a different meaning
and does NOT exist in Scripture but
came from antichrist !
So instead of the Holy Spirit being the
SPIRIT OF THE FATHER, it is now some
third god called “god the spirit.”
And if “god the spirit” is Satan's idea and
his creation…what spirit do you have in
you? And what spirit do you give your
adoration to? And what spirit do you
worship or pray to for those who are
now doing that also?
It will be SATAN !
The third person in the Trinity is actually
Satan, not the real Holy Spirit !
Christians need to wake up before it is
too late.

solite3:
@ bold if Jesus is equal to the father by his nature then they are coequal.
Do you know the meaning of ones nature?

God is not created by nature
God is Almighty, omnipotent, omnipresent and infinite by nature
If Jesus Jesus and his father are equal by nature.
It means Jesus is equally uncreated, Almighty, inifinte,omnipotent, omnipresent just as his father else he would be inferior to the father.

There is absolutely no where in the bible where Jesus is said to be a creation of God but instead without him nothing created can exist.

Really?
But the Bible tells us that Jesus is the son of God and that he has a beginning.

Your problem is you are throwing away sense and logic inorder to justify the fraud called trinity doctrine.

Do you know that God cannot create himself?
Secondly it was God that instutited the father and son relationship there is no way God will be the father of Jesus and Jesus will be equal in age and authority with God. it is contrary to God's established order of beings and things giving birth to their kind.

Without God Jesus would not exist but God does not need anyone to exist.

solite3:
@ bold if Jesus is equal to the father by his nature then they are coequal.
Do you know the meaning of ones nature?

God is not created by nature
God is Almighty, omnipotent, omnipresent and infinite by nature
If Jesus Jesus and his father are equal by nature.
It means Jesus is equally uncreated, Almighty, inifinte,omnipotent, omnipresent just as his father else he would be inferior to the father.

There is absolutely no where in the bible where Jesus is said to be a creation of God but instead without him nothing created can exist.

Are you of the same age with your father and grandfather since you people share the same nature?

KJV Trinity is The Word of God, that was with God at the beginning and is
The Names of God.
The Unity of God.
The Natural Qualities of God.
The Moral Perfection of God.
And The Triune God

KJV Trinity is The Word of God, that was with God at the beginning and is
The Names of God.
The Unity of God.
The Natural Qualities of God.
The Moral Perfection of God.
And The Triune God

solite3:
@ bold if Jesus is equal to the father by his nature then they are coequal.
Do you know the meaning of ones nature?

God is not created by nature
God is Almighty, omnipotent, omnipresent and infinite by nature
If Jesus Jesus and his father are equal by nature.
It means Jesus is equally uncreated, Almighty, inifinte,omnipotent, omnipresent just as his father else he would be inferior to the father.

There is absolutely no where in the bible where Jesus is said to be a creation of God but instead without him nothing created can exist.

If that is the case then God must have a beginning and must also been begotten?

Barristter07:


No one is son of Jesus. He isnt the source ... He isnt the Creator . thats why no one is called his son.

Lol, u get this people time sha. But how come we pray to the son or ask anything in the father's name?
Assuming they are same and equal it means we can as well pray in Jehovah's name and direct the prayer to Jesus too. Confusion everywhere

ableguy:

Lol, u get this people time sha. But how come we pray to the son or ask anything in the father's name?
Assuming they are same and equal it means we can as well pray in Jehovah's name and direct the prayer to Jesus too. Confusion everywhere

and that confusion is with you false jw's:
1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

Father and the Word is God, john 1:1, plus there are more scriptures showing the Word is God, if you want to see them
they are not the same person as in Jesus being the Father

and with Father and Jesus being God, then Father and Jesus is Jehovah
these verses below also show that Father and the Word is God as in john 1:1,
and not the false jw's: the Word is "a god"

Jesus is Jehovah:

Jehovah
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:


....


Jehovah
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


....


Jehovah
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as false jw say.


....


Jehovah
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.


....



Jehovah
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.


....


Jehovah
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.


....


Jehovah
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Barristter07:


No one is son of Jesus.

oh duh ™lie lie barrister
Jesus the man never had a son

Barristter07:
He isnt the source ... He isnt the Creator . thats why no one is called his son.

the word come Jesus Christ created all things, john 1:3 plus more, and that includes man
and for that reason the Word can be called Father
it is probably the reason why isaiah called Him Father:

Isa 9:6  For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

ableguy:

Lol, u get this people time sha. But how come we pray to the son or ask anything in the father's name?
Assuming they are same and equal it means we can as well pray in Jehovah's name and direct the prayer to Jesus too. Confusion everywhere

The Catholic Church have spiritually killed them halfway!

TRINITY never appeared in any part of the scriptures, it's part of the fundamental doctrines of the Catholic included in their dogma, but the churchgoers are so much engulfed in the fallacy that they just feel it should be so, like their Christmas, Easter and New year festivals all initiated by the same Catholic Church.

Yet they will come up to spew nonsense and ingredients against the Catholic Church that has been spoonfeeding all them from with fallacies!

Maximus69:


The Catholic Church have spiritually killed them halfway!

TRINITY never appeared in any part of the scriptures, it's part of the fundamental doctrines of the Catholic included in their dogma, but the churchgoers are so much engulfed in the fallacy that they just feel it should be so, like their Christmas, Easter and New year festivals all initiated by the same Catholic Church.

Yet they will come up to spew nonsense and ingredients against the Catholic Church that has been spoonfeeding all them from with fallacies!

See the crab that confused agbaya wrote to simply answer why we don't say in Jehovah's name after prayer or pray to Jesus in Jehovah's name

They just feel like saying something to criticize the facts Jehovah's Witnesses are presenting before everyone!

ableguy:

See the crab that confused agbaya wrote to simply answer why we don't say in Jehovah's name after prayer or pray to Jesus in Jehovah's name

Maximus69:


The Catholic Church have spiritually killed them halfway!

TRINITY never appeared in any part of the scriptures, it's part of the fundamental doctrines of the Catholic included in their dogma, but the churchgoers are so much engulfed in the fallacy that they just feel it should be so, like their Christmas, Easter and New year festivals all initiated by the same Catholic Church.

Yet they will come up to spew nonsense and ingredients against the Catholic Church that has been spoonfeeding all them from with fallacies!

My exact thoughts

solite3:
Trinity is not God occupying three different offices rather God existing in three distinct consciousness.
Personalities does not mean offices but consciousness.
That is the meaning of plurality of persons.
In Genesis God said let us make man in our image, he wasnt speaking to offices but rather one person of the trinity speaking to the other persons of the trinity.

Your Church confessing about the trinity doctrine.

Our opponents sometimes claim that no belief should be held dogmatically which is not explicitly stated in scripture ... But the Protestant Churches have themselves accepted such dogmas, as the Trinity, for which there is no such precise authority in the Gospels,” — (Assumption of Mary, Life magazine, October 30, 1950, p. 51)

solite3:
Trinity is not God occupying three different offices rather God existing in three distinct consciousness.
Personalities does not mean offices but consciousness.
That is the meaning of plurality of persons.
In Genesis God said let us make man in our image, he wasnt speaking to offices but rather one person of the trinity speaking to the other persons of the trinity.

James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

The same God that frowns at those who are double minded has himself double consciousness hence one been the father and the other been the son that was praying for the cup to pass over him if his other consciousness will allow.

That's a typical example of a pagan god an not the Living God, the Holy one of Israel.

solite3:
Trinity is not God occupying three different offices rather God existing in three distinct consciousness.
Personalities does not mean offices but consciousness.
That is the meaning of plurality of persons.
In Genesis God said let us make man in our image, he wasnt speaking to offices but rather one person of the trinity speaking to the other persons of the trinity.

So in other words God was acting as the Son and was pretending to do the will of his other consciousness.
That makes Jesus an expert ventriloquist with multiple personality and consciousness.

Barristter07:


No one is son of Jesus. He isnt the source ... [/b]He isnt the Creator[b]. thats why no one is called his son.

@ bolded

@bolded Here is what the bible say concerning Jesus.
Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Sonship has nothing to do with creation.

You are just an atheist in disguise.

solite3:
@ bolded

@bolded Here is what the bible say concerning Jesus.
Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Sonship has nothing to do with creation.

You are just an atheist in disguise.

No one specifically was called Jesus' son, but the scriptures actually called him the Everlasting Father{Isaiah 9:6} because he is surely going to serve the duty of Adam (our biological father) who brought us all under sin and death. Roman 5:12

Jesus is going to be our father by faith,that means only to those who are willing to learn how to please our heavenly father (JEHOVAH) from Jesus. Matthew 17:5

So that's why the scriptures never mentioned anyone as son of Jesus because biologically and by creation Jesus is no one's father. But since Adam has lost the privilege of serving as a good father who supposed to teach his children God's righteous standards {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} someone PERFECT must replace him! 1Corinthians 15:45

blueAgent:



The Trinity doctrine says there are
THREE LITERAL GODS that are equal in
every way and that all THREE gods have
always existed. THREE gods that are co-
equal and co-eternal in other words.
But now we have a SERIOUS problem
because the Bible says there is only ONE
God.
SATAN via the Catholic Church says NO
PROBLEM…I have just the answer to
keep all deceived. We will teach that all
THREE GODS are really only ONE GOD!
1 + 1 + 1 = 1 !
THREE LITERAL GODS that are not really
3 GODS but 1 GOD. Make sense? No!
Why should it? It was made up by Satan
via the Catholic Church so Satan could
get worship and have Christians deny
the Father and Son and not even know
it !
Satan HATES the SON OF GOD and
wants us to deny Him. Not only that, but
we can only be saved by confessing that
Jesus is the Son of God. So how does
the Trinity doctrine deny the Father and
Son and give worship to Satan?
If they are 3 gods that have ALWAYS
existed, Jesus cannot really be a SON
and therefore God cannot really be a
FATHER.
And so the Bible now has hundreds of
lies! More unmistakable Scriptures are
denied than any other doctrine EVER !
And yet people just go on blindly
believing that it is right. Like lambs to
the slaughter as they say.
So God is not the Father of Christ and
Christ is not the Son of God says the
Trinity doctrine!
Every Scripture that says Jesus is the
Son of God is now a lie. Every Scripture
that says God is the Father is now a lie.
How many Scriptures suddenly become
a lie?....“HUNDREDS!”
The Bible says Jesus was God's Son
before He came to Earth. The Trinity
doctrine says No!
The Bible says Jesus is the Son of God.
The Trinity doctrine says No! He is just
ROLE PLAYING.
The Bible says God is the Father of
Christ. The Trinity doctrine says No! He
is just ROLE PLAYING.
Where is there ONE Scripture that even
hints they are not really a Father and
Son and that they are ROLE PLAYING?
IT DOES NOT EXIST !
The Bible says the Holy Spirit is the
“Spirit OF God” or the “Spirit OF the
Father.” The Trinity doctrine says No! It
claims it is something called “god the
spirit” which has a different meaning
and does NOT exist in Scripture but
came from antichrist !
So instead of the Holy Spirit being the
SPIRIT OF THE FATHER, it is now some
third god called “god the spirit.”
And if “god the spirit” is Satan's idea and
his creation…what spirit do you have in
you? And what spirit do you give your
adoration to? And what spirit do you
worship or pray to for those who are
now doing that also?
It will be SATAN !
The third person in the Trinity is actually
Satan, not the real Holy Spirit !
Christians need to wake up before it is
too late.

Gbam.
True talk.
The Trinity gang won't like this.

blueAgent:


James 4:8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded

The same God that frowns at those who are double minded has himself double consciousness hence one been the father and the other been the son that was praying for the cup to pass over him if his other consciousness will allow.

That's a typical example of a pagan god an not the Living God, the Holy one of Israel.

Don't mind those Trinity clowns and apprentice comedians.

solite3:
@ bolded

@bolded Here is what the bible say concerning Jesus.
Hebrews 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:

Sonship has nothing to do with creation.

You are just an atheist in disguise.

Solite3 Antichrist in disguise.....
Hebrews 1:9, your "God" anointed by whom?
Hebrews 1:1-2,5 whose son?
The son of Our Father who art in heaven...

solite3:

You display illogical foolishness smh
Proverbs 9:13
A foolish woman is clamorous: she is simple, and knoweth nothing.

Revelation 3:5,12 and John 14:28,John5:37 is your nemesis

Janosky:
Solite3 Antichrist in disguise..... Hebrews 1:9, your "God" anointed by whom? Hebrews 1:1-2,5 whose son? The son of Our Father who art in heaven...

I wonder. So they mean that Jesus as God, anointed himself and sent himself on errand.
Trinitarians are really confused.

Maximus69:


No one specifically was called Jesus' son, but the scriptures actually called him the Everlasting Father{Isaiah 9:6} because he is surely going to serve the duty of Adam (our biological father) who brought us all under sin and death. Roman 5:12

Jesus is going to be our father by faith,that means only to those who are willing to learn how to please our heavenly father (JEHOVAH) from Jesus. Matthew 17:5

So that's why the scriptures never mentioned anyone as son of Jesus because biologically and by creation Jesus is no one's father. But since Adam has lost the privilege of serving as a good father who supposed to teach his children God's righteous standards {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} someone PERFECT must replace him! 1Corinthians 15:45

Excellent response.

Maximus69:


No one specifically was called Jesus' son, but the scriptures actually called him the Everlasting Father{Isaiah 9:6} because he is surely going to serve the duty of Adam (our biological father) who brought us all under sin and death. Roman 5:12

Jesus is going to be our father by faith,that means only to those who are willing to learn how to please our heavenly father (JEHOVAH) from Jesus. Matthew 17:5

So that's why the scriptures never mentioned anyone as son of Jesus because biologically and by creation Jesus is no one's father. But since Adam has lost the privilege of serving as a good father who supposed to teach his children God's righteous standards {Deuteronomy 6:6-7} someone PERFECT must replace him! 1Corinthians 15:45

you just point out where Jesus is called everlasting father yet you said Jesus has no Son.

Hebrews 2:13
And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

Jesus is the father of all bornagain Christian.

blueAgent:



The Trinity doctrine says there are
THREE LITERAL GODS


The third person in the Trinity is actually
Satan, not the real Holy Spirit !
Christians need to wake up before it is
too late.

Janosky:


Gbam.
True talk.
The Trinity gang won't like this.

laughing, that from ™absolutely know nothing beelze, and ™lying pharisee jano/onej
and you blinded false jw's think that is what people here believe
and all the while you polytheist false jw's believe in two gods, almighty god the father and mighty god the son
such pharisee hyporcrites and liars, and of course as blinded as can be
your babble comes from your father and god the devil that you talk about:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat 23:25  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Mat 23:28  Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus69:


the scriptures actually called him the Everlasting Father{Isaiah 9:6}
because he is surely going to serve the duty of Adam


by creation Jesus is no one's father

™cannot stop lying pharisee false jw mad max

the Word come Jesus Christ certainally is the Father of man whom He created

Jesus having made man is a very good reason for him to be called Father
just like isaiah called Him: The Everlasting Father

but of course you love to twist and squirm your way around such truths, making God a liar


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

nothing was created that Jesus didn't create, equals the Word Jesus Christ is not created, of course


and of course the blinded see nothing:

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Maximus69:


the scriptures actually called him the Everlasting Father{Isaiah 9:6}
because he is surely going to serve the duty of Adam


by creation Jesus is no one's father

blueAgent:



Excellent response.

the blinded leading the blinded

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

solite3:
you just point out where Jesus is called everlasting father yet you said Jesus has no Son.

Hebrews 2:13
And again, I will put my trust in him. And again, Behold I and the children which God hath given me.

Jesus is the father of all bornagain Christian.

We are both saying the same thing here Sir, but from different perspective!

Just as Satan{a spirit being} had no children of his own, Jesus{a spirit being} also had no children of his own. It's the same circumstances which made Satan become father to some people that's going to make Jesus become father to some as well. The difference is that Satan rebelled against God's sovereignty, so all those who took after his rebellious acts automatically become his children! John 8:44
On the other hand Jesus is obedient to God always {John 8:28} so all those who took after his footsteps {1Peter 2:21} becomes his children. But while Satan and his own children are heading towards destruction as they've been disconnected from the source of spiritual food { Deuteronomy 8:3,Matthew 4:4} Jesus and his own children will live forever because they remain connected to JEHOVAH (the source of life)! John 17:3

That is why Jesus the great Prince who spent so much trying to make Peace between God and sinful humans will become father to all exercising faith in him forever! Isaiah 9:6

Maximus69:


That is why Jesus the great Prince who spent so much trying to make Peace between God and sinful humans will become father to all exercising faith in him forever!Isaiah 9:6

@underline, you ™false jw mad max, of course cannot admit that the Word is already Father having created man and all things. you either don't understand isaiah 9:6 or you purposely falsely interpreter it, or both

the Word is Father from Everlasting, even before He created the world and man,
He is Father from when He created the angels in eternity, not just from when some came to have faith in Him:

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Maximus69:


We are both saying the same thing here Sir, but from different perspective!

Just as Satan{a spirit being} had no children of his own, Jesus{a spirit being} also had no children of his own. It's the same circumstances which made Satan become father to some people that's going to make Jesus become father to some as well. The difference is that Satan rebelled against God's sovereignty, so all those who took after his rebellious acts automatically become his children! John 8:44
On the other hand Jesus is obedient to God always {John 8:28} so all those who took after his footsteps {1Peter 2:21} becomes his children. But while Satan and his own children are heading towards destruction as they've been disconnected from the source of spiritual food { Deuteronomy 8:3,Matthew 4:4} Jesus and his own children will live forever because they remain connected to JEHOVAH (the source of life)! John 17:3

That is why Jesus the great Prince who spent so much trying to make Peace between God and sinful humans will become father to all exercising faith in him forever! Isaiah 9:6

So in other words Jesus is a father also.