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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by jaxxy(m): 10:40pm On Sep 24, 2019
MYDEBBY:
Dear Nairalanders, I greet you all.

Pls I need candid advice, I have dated my wife for over six years without an issue and now that we have done traditional rites and about to climax with white wedding she is giving flimsy excuses that she is no longer interested in me.

She is currently in final year and has drastically changed in her dressing and attitude towards due to influence of friends in school.

Often I do report incidences of her recent poor dressing to her parents after cautioning her she will channel the grievances to me.

The recent one made her so angry that she started recanting all my past mistakes which she and her family are aware of and have resolved since now using it as an excuse against me that she is no longer interested.

She kept mute for over two weeks due to anger yet I still transferred money twice to her but up till now she did not acknowledged it, only for her to send text that she need money for our daughters school fees. I then decide to visit them off campus where they stay yesterday with lots of provision yet she could not say a common thank you.

While I was still making peace with her asking her to forgive me for whatever wrong I have done to her by reporting her to her PARENTS, promising not to do so again, a guy knocked the door and she went out after the guy I asked a relation who was there who was the guy and he said he is my wife's friend, I quickly followed them on citing me the guy diverted after their discussion about me.

When we then entered the house I asked her who was the guy and she said that's not my business. I kept quiet.

After a while I called her parents to tell them the situation of things that their daughter said she is no longer interested they now asked us to come down to the village to see them this coming weekend.

I know things are not alright somewhere and as such I need straight forward advice on what to do.

Pls no insult just help out.

Thanks

Why do you want to marry sm1 who isn’t interested in ur wellbeing, peace of mind and happiness? Why are you the only person trying to make the relationship work? If a gal chooses to be stupid or fed up u can only do ur best to correct and convince her and if she not yielding u need to let her be, if she is wrong in her actions she will learn her own hard lessons. Forcing sm1 to Marry you because uve dated for 6year just to live a lifetime of misery isn’t worth it.


Marry this lady only if she wants to be with u or u can convince her reasonably and please don’t assume or think money is everything especially in this situation. She obviously has a lot of her mind and if I were you I will look for a means or avenue for her to speak her real mind, only then can u really address the situation or know ur next step.

Don’t be desperate to marry this lady or u will have urself to blame. I don’t care whether uve dated for 6 years or u have a baby together. Unless u can honestly fix ur issues without coercing anybody or overly begging to be married out of pity. Be a man!

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Jabioro: 10:40pm On Sep 24, 2019
OP is about to be finally settled by the devil,if you mistakenly marry her your before the demon has stamped.She having another good preeq..Leave her take care of your child.. ingnored her let her have world she would soon regret her actions ,then it would be late to make a correction

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by CodeXI: 10:41pm On Sep 24, 2019
When you married her they said everything should be between both of you but now its in the public by you has she taken hers to the public as well ? if not both of you in the presence of both parents should amicably settle it.
cool

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by chiomzy86(f): 10:42pm On Sep 24, 2019
Stop giving her money,ignore her stop calling her and stop begging her after 3 months her brain go reset ..I guess one of those past mistake was " cheating on her" women don't easily forget it..finally go on your kneels as the head of the family and pray out your wife ,u can add it fasting and midnight,.. Don't allow another guy snatch your wife,,its better u make sure he doesn't win,when u finally win,..there are better ways to revenge

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by BBBmall25: 10:44pm On Sep 24, 2019
MissJoy29:
No need stressing yourself sir. She's no longer into you.
Op Take This Summary

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by midnighter(f): 10:45pm On Sep 24, 2019
Dont give her or her parents any more money, please.

The thing is paining me as if I were there. The part where you said you went to see her and she walked out on you with the other guy...jeez!

Thought this kind of obvious disrespect only happened in old Nollywood movies

Plus her parents are just trying to get her through school, they dont care how it happens. You cant take their body language serious and anyway they cant really control everything she does

She simply doesnt care. If she did she would at least try and pretend, if only just to squeeze more money out of you

Training girls in school is such a huge mistake...university triggers huge transformations in people that they couldnt have imagined...your whole perspective on life and what you can get out of it will have changed by the time you graduate

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by maak400: 10:45pm On Sep 24, 2019
ststyreal:

Yeah you are right, you know.... God will help us
You and @healthserve should just have a date already joor grin
Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Jokkarm2: 10:46pm On Sep 24, 2019
Guy, if everything you said here is true, just lock up . don't call, don't chat, don't text, don't even send a dinm. Just be strong and move on. Another guy is fucking that girl every day in school , stop wasting your time and money. Don't even think if her anymore. Remove her number from your phone. Look for where you will see good hotel, find a correct girl and Bleep to calm you down. That girl will never love you . even you buy her roll Royce . she s loving someone else .

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by healthserve(m): 10:46pm On Sep 24, 2019
maak400:

You and @healthserve should just have a date already joor grin


wink cheesy
Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Solatium(m): 10:48pm On Sep 24, 2019
MYDEBBY:
Dear Nairalanders, I greet you all.

Pls I need candid advice, I have dated my wife for over six years without an issue and now that we have done traditional rites and about to climax with white wedding she is giving flimsy excuses that she is no longer interested in me.

She is currently in final year and has drastically changed in her dressing and attitude towards due to influence of friends in school.

Often I do report incidences of her recent poor dressing to her parents after cautioning her she will channel the grievances to me.

The recent one made her so angry that she started recanting all my past mistakes which she and her family are aware of and have resolved since now using it as an excuse against me that she is no longer interested.

She kept mute for over two weeks due to anger yet I still transferred money twice to her but up till now she did not acknowledged it, only for her to send text that she need money for our daughters school fees. I then decide to visit them off campus where they stay yesterday with lots of provision yet she could not say a common thank you.

While I was still making peace with her asking her to forgive me for whatever wrong I have done to her by reporting her to her PARENTS, promising not to do so again, a guy knocked the door and she went out after the guy I asked a relation who was there who was the guy and he said he is my wife's friend, I quickly followed them on citing me the guy diverted after their discussion about me.

When we then entered the house I asked her who was the guy and she said that's not my business. I kept quiet.

After a while I called her parents to tell them the situation of things that their daughter said she is no longer interested they now asked us to come down to the village to see them this coming weekend.

I know things are not alright somewhere and as such I need straight forward advice on what to do.

Pls no insult just help out.



Don't send her money any longer, Don't call her again,act like you don't care,and if you can, don't go for the meeting scheduled by her parents.
She is not doing you a favor by going out with you, don't make that mistake of going ahead with that marriage,if you do,you will regret the day you take that decision.
Just dust yourself up,I believe there is woman out there for you who will value you,God just want to deliver you from a family of an ingrate,heed that call nowwwwwwwwwwee

Thanks
Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Dizu(m): 10:48pm On Sep 24, 2019
healthserve iepost=82474522:
Another ladies palaver. After you ladies will start saying guys pointing out ladies wrongs are fault finding, Aweleawkaetiti MissJoy29. Come and keep defending your sisters needlessly


Go and give thanksgiving and end it Op. She doesn't love you and hasnt grown up. Is easily influenced by outside sources, hence may not be loyal for the long term and can be easily swayed. That's assuming all you said is true and she is guilty of all you wrote. Cause it takes two to tango


Thank God its early.
Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by saajus: 10:49pm On Sep 24, 2019
She's showing you who she is. If families forced both of you together, it could be a lifetime of regrets. She has been influenced, please cut your loss and move on. Life is short and you cannot afford to live unhappy in marriage. Pray and find another lady that will give you peace of mind.

CUT YOUR LOSS NOW.

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Solatium(m): 10:49pm On Sep 24, 2019
MYDEBBY:
Dear Nairalanders, I greet you all.

Pls I need candid advice, I have dated my wife for over six years without an issue and now that we have done traditional rites and about to climax with white wedding she is giving flimsy excuses that she is no longer interested in me.

She is currently in final year and has drastically changed in her dressing and attitude towards due to influence of friends in school.

Often I do report incidences of her recent poor dressing to her parents after cautioning her she will channel the grievances to me.

The recent one made her so angry that she started recanting all my past mistakes which she and her family are aware of and have resolved since now using it as an excuse against me that she is no longer interested.

She kept mute for over two weeks due to anger yet I still transferred money twice to her but up till now she did not acknowledged it, only for her to send text that she need money for our daughters school fees. I then decide to visit them off campus where they stay yesterday with lots of provision yet she could not say a common thank you.

While I was still making peace with her asking her to forgive me for whatever wrong I have done to her by reporting her to her PARENTS, promising not to do so again, a guy knocked the door and she went out after the guy I asked a relation who was there who was the guy and he said he is my wife's friend, I quickly followed them on citing me the guy diverted after their discussion about me.

When we then entered the house I asked her who was the guy and she said that's not my business. I kept quiet.

After a while I called her parents to tell them the situation of things that their daughter said she is no longer interested they now asked us to come down to the village to see them this coming weekend.

I know things are not alright somewhere and as such I need straight forward advice on what to do.

Pls no insult just help out.

Thanks



Don't send her money any longer, Don't call her again,act like you don't care,and if you can, don't go for the meeting scheduled by her parents.
She is not doing you a favor by going out with you, don't make that mistake of going ahead with that marriage,if you do,you will regret the day you take that decision.
Just dust yourself up,I believe there is woman out there for you who will value you,God just want to deliver you from a family of an ingrate,heed that call nowwwwwwwwwwee

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Dizu(m): 10:50pm On Sep 24, 2019
CodeXI:
When you married her they said everything should be between both of you but now its in the public by you has she taken hers to the public as well ? if not both of you in the presence of both parents should amicably settle it.
cool
good

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by perryy(m): 10:50pm On Sep 24, 2019
olabrinks:
She is not interested in the marriage, and if you marry her by force you will be entering a life time of misery and a constant battle to prove yourself to her. Better get out now before it’s too late. It’s that simple.

I don’t know why men are always fighting for women that don’t want them. They’re millions of single available women go and look for them and leave this small girl alone.

That is just the point dear. I've been there and I quite understand what u mean. If the man is wise, let him run now that he can still send money because if he force himself on that woman maybe through bribing her parents and all that , he would live to regret his actions. Best solution, run now that u still have the means. Mine was like that and I was trying to do a true lover , if not for God, by noe feeding would have been a big problem for me. The woman also has a daughter with me. Once a woman hates u, she has hated u. Nothing u would do to please her again . and before a woman hates her man , she MUST have someone outside she sees as a better option and she would only realize late after she has left u.

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by samology2000: 10:52pm On Sep 24, 2019
Why did it take so long to make preparation and marry her? Never force a woman to marry u no matter how much u have spend on her if not u will regret for the rest of ur life.Put yourself together and fine another lady that is God fearing.Shalom...

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by carrydeygo(m): 10:53pm On Sep 24, 2019
My friend
Work hard legitimately and make money
It’s not about I gave her....
Make real good money
Show her you love
Every other thing shall be added unto you
MYDEBBY:
Dear Nairalanders, I greet you all.

Pls I need candid advice, I have dated my wife for over six years without an issue and now that we have done traditional rites and about to climax with white wedding she is giving flimsy excuses that she is no longer interested in me.

She is currently in final year and has drastically changed in her dressing and attitude towards due to influence of friends in school.

Often I do report incidences of her recent poor dressing to her parents after cautioning her she will channel the grievances to me.

The recent one made her so angry that she started recanting all my past mistakes which she and her family are aware of and have resolved since now using it as an excuse against me that she is no longer interested.

She kept mute for over two weeks due to anger yet I still transferred money twice to her but up till now she did not acknowledged it, only for her to send text that she need money for our daughters school fees. I then decide to visit them off campus where they stay yesterday with lots of provision yet she could not say a common thank you.

While I was still making peace with her asking her to forgive me for whatever wrong I have done to her by reporting her to her PARENTS, promising not to do so again, a guy knocked the door and she went out after the guy I asked a relation who was there who was the guy and he said he is my wife's friend, I quickly followed them on citing me the guy diverted after their discussion about me.

When we then entered the house I asked her who was the guy and she said that's not my business. I kept quiet.

After a while I called her parents to tell them the situation of things that their daughter said she is no longer interested they now asked us to come down to the village to see them this coming weekend.

I know things are not alright somewhere and as such I need straight forward advice on what to do.

Pls no insult just help out.

Thanks

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by SmellingAnus(m): 10:53pm On Sep 24, 2019
MYDEBBY:
Situation report house,the mum of my wife called me that why am I not sending the school fees of my daughter as my wife have told her,I replied by saying I will change my daughters school or probably transfer the money to the school account directly.She said OK. Meanwhile the meeting for this weekend scheduled between i, herself and her parents. her mum pleaded with me to go and carry them with my car down to the villa.But initially my wife said I should go on my own but now her mum said I should bring them along.Should I adhere knowing fully well my wife said she has no business with me again.

Mynd 44
Obinoscopy
Lalasticlala

Pls do the needful,thanks.
I will be straightforward with you... You have lost your self worth... You have made your life to revolve around a very selfish manipulator in the name of wife... The best you can do for yourself is to look for ways to make yourself happy without your fvcking wife... Stop these excessive care that is not being appreciated... Stop being a pussy for once and avoid talking to her except you guys are talking about your daughter... Move on or pretend as if you have moved on... She will run back to you when whatever she thinks she has, has failed her... Trust me you will end up in heartbreak if you don't adjust your heart now... Oh least I forget... You are also too insecure but I don't blame you much on that because she had given you reasons to be insecure but come out of it and move on with your fucking life... Let this meeting be the last you will attend... Stop this shit... I am just pissed as if I am the one in your shoes...

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by KIDfurniture(m): 10:54pm On Sep 24, 2019
See problem .. I will always show any yeye woman the door. No time at all.
Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Fashdeejay(m): 10:55pm On Sep 24, 2019
MYDEBBY:
Dear Nairalanders, I greet you all.

Pls I need candid advice, I have dated my wife for over six years without an issue and now that we have done traditional rites and about to climax with white wedding she is giving flimsy excuses that she is no longer interested in me.

She is currently in final year and has drastically changed in her dressing and attitude towards due to influence of friends in school.

Often I do report incidences of her recent poor dressing to her parents after cautioning her she will channel the grievances to me.

The recent one made her so angry that she started recanting all my past mistakes which she and her family are aware of and have resolved since now using it as an excuse against me that she is no longer interested.

She kept mute for over two weeks due to anger yet I still transferred money twice to her but up till now she did not acknowledged it, only for her to send text that she need money for our daughters school fees. I then decide to visit them off campus where they stay yesterday with lots of provision yet she could not say a common thank you.

While I was still making peace with her asking her to forgive me for whatever wrong I have done to her by reporting her to her PARENTS, promising not to do so again, a guy knocked the door and she went out after the guy I asked a relation who was there who was the guy and he said he is my wife's friend, I quickly followed them on citing me the guy diverted after their discussion about me.

When we then entered the house I asked her who was the guy and she said that's not my business. I kept quiet.

After a while I called her parents to tell them the situation of things that their daughter said she is no longer interested they now asked us to come down to the village to see them this coming weekend.

I know things are not alright somewhere and as such I need straight forward advice on what to do.

Pls no insult just help out.

Thanks
Dude, dont force it... if u marry her you will hate yourself. If she says she is done, let her be.... provide for your child, let her do the rubbish she wants to do but my suggestion is u request that the child be given to her parents as u do not want her doing shit in front of your child... move on with your life. After a few years of gbas gbos.. she will come back to you... by then you'd be better off.... Pray for her and bid her farewell

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Jutnow: 10:55pm On Sep 24, 2019
pocohantas:
The earlier you guys understand that not so many undergraduate girls are very pro-marriage, the better for you. Once you spot that one who is very much interested in the fast life, pull the plug immediately.

Her parents told you both to come to the VILLAGE? You think if her parents had enough to be giving her, she would bother herself with you?

It is painful my dear, but your wife is in her hoe-phase. Some skip that phase, some spend few years in it, some stay a decade there- even do spillover.

You need to have some self-respect. A grown ass man following two fcking undergraduates to hear their conversation?

You guys don't hear word. You remind me of my colleague and that tin-tomatoes-headed girl he was pursuing. One small 200l girl. The way the girl did his heart ehn, she passed it through shredder.

Go find one afternoon newspaper that has her life figured out. Someone that will bring in tangible and intangible resources to the relationship. That way when she wants to throw it all away, she would think of how it would hit her own balance sheet.
grin grin very funny
Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by elektra(f): 10:56pm On Sep 24, 2019
abbey621:


Sorry you made a few good points in the beginning but some of your other points are just plain wrong! Everyone knows that the parent with the most custody of the child has the most influence on the child. A father's primary responsibility is survival, making sure they have shelter, food and other basic ammenities. If in the path of providing these things he's forced to work 80 to 100 hours per week, he's forced to do some hustle on the side. Tell me how would he have time to be soap opera dad you clearly stated above? Before calling someone a bad parent, let's try to understand their circumstance, especially in Nigeria where the lack of money is more shameful than being an alcoholic. If attention without money equaled being a great parent then deadbeat dads would always have hope grin grin grin grin

If he is unable to be an active participant in the child’s life then he should leave her with her mum. I said what I said because he is clearly not present, yet he is trying to yank the child from her mother and dump her with a relative. He clearly thinks his only responsibility as parent is providing, but you are both wrong in believing that. If he is going to take the kid from her mother, he should be ready to fill her shoes.
By the way, there are many parents (both mums and dads) that provide and parent at the same time, both of which is their responsibility.

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by manlawal(m): 10:57pm On Sep 24, 2019
MYDEBBY:


Didn't you read my facts why will she be intensely bored when I have paid her dowry as my wife.I have sat her one on one even at midnight to let her adjust her ways since the traditional rites this year and waiting for the white.I did said that I noticed her with bad influence including male and female.so why do you think she is not cheating on me,must I leave my work and be with her in school 24hrs before I will know she is not cheating on me? I think that all that happened is the handiwork of God.
Leave her bro thousands of woman are out there and never take her back when she come back.
Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by SamNaijaboy: 10:57pm On Sep 24, 2019
There is no love. There is just one maga and a mugu.
Never train a woman to school-Na you be her papa?
Then they get to school and use your money to fund another guy wey go Dey sex am for free.
That makes you that spent money to marry her and train her a fool, right? You have nothing better to do with money, right?

Never marry a non-made woman. If the made woman doesn’t bring her own money to the relationship, don’t marry her and just chop and go-she is selfish.
Romantic love is BS. Only the love of a daughter and a mother and maybe a sister is real. A woman has to be related to you by blood to really love selflessly.
Otherwise she is looking for something from you.
Men are silly. Loving with the heart while your lover is very clear headed and loving with her head.

OP, read that and do the needful


ststyreal:

I am telling you. This love of a thing is so confusing. Let him neutraluse his mind but na wa for some ladies oooooo, after carrying out the traditional rite, it now dawn on her that she is no longer interested.... Well, they say a broken courtship is better than a misery marriage...

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by TemmyT002(m): 10:57pm On Sep 24, 2019
Listen to the advice of the serious ladies here. They know better.

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by chronique(m): 10:58pm On Sep 24, 2019
baby124:
Hmmm.... how old is she? I would be highly irritated too if someone was policing my life, reporting every move to my parents and generally more obnoxious than usual just after the traditional marriage.

Don’t forget, you are both married traditionally now. It’s you who decided to go for someone who was young for relationship and marriage, I am sure you must have also thought to figure out how to deal with any surprising behavior. You also need to be careful about this jealousy you hold in your heart. What if that guy is a school friend? Yes, she obviously confides in him because you have shown that you have an unstable character. It may just be a simple friendship. Because she went outside to talk to him, you have concluded that they are sleeping together. If she talked to him in your presence, you would have also taken offense.

Well I think you need to give this relationship time before concluding the court wedding. I think you need to step back and reassess your reason for marrying a lady who you cannot trust or refuse to trust. Try to examine why you have trust issues and control issues. You also need to grow up and stop reporting all over the place. Just as she’s trying to forgive you and reconcile, you go on a reporting spree. Whew!

Please read what you just typed, slowly and try to find the sense in it. If she was behaving properly, would there be a need to report her to her parents to talk to her? Or you prefer him to start hitting her? Someone has concluded traditional rites to marry a lady and you're talking about privacy and why she had to walk away to go and talk outside with her male friend. The OP actually lacks self respect cos a man who has respect for himself won't even allow a lady put him through this rubbish.

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by SlimzDboss(m): 10:59pm On Sep 24, 2019
My brother, I know it’s hard to get over her maybe you should give her a break and see what eventually happens moreover she doesn’t seem matured enough and ready for marriage.

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Dobson43: 10:59pm On Sep 24, 2019
pocohantas:


I don't know why I have a feeling you are one very humble guy, the type who isn't very adventurous, missionary style kinda guy...

Don't even force her. Difficult to do, but that is the best thing for your long term sanity. If not, she will keep making it obvious by her words that she never wanted you.

Recently a NLder was here to report himself after telling his wife she wasn't his first choice. That might be you in few years time, only that you will be at the receiving end.

You see all these girls that their eyes are up? Once they start wearing some kind clothe and experiencing city-girls life, marriage no dey their mind o. Let alone marriage to some homely dude. She will convince herself there is still time and there is better out there.

She might only remember you (or your type) when she is retiring. Pele





My dear, you have a unique way with words. Missionary style guy. Babe you bad gan

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by ranksz: 11:00pm On Sep 24, 2019
For goodness sake, why don't you gather the self respect that you have remaining and get your child and move on.

Why do some men just like to sink themselves in perpetual misery? The hand writing is on the wall for you to see and you are still here asking questions.

Now I understand why she is so irritated

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by perryy(m): 11:01pm On Sep 24, 2019
Solatium:




Don't send her money any longer, Don't call her again,act like you don't care,and if you can, don't go for the meeting scheduled by her parents.
She is not doing you a favor by going out with you, don't make that mistake of going ahead with that marriage,if you do,you will regret the day you take that decision.
Just dust yourself up,I believe there is woman out there for you who will value you,God just want to deliver you from a family of an ingrate,heed that call nowwwwwwwwwwee

Exactly! I wish I met people like unto advise me then, I wouldn't have fallen into the trap of evil marriage. She was exactly like the girl described here. I managed her for 8 years before she nearly killed me. She was fucking those even close to me , I put her in charge of my business and she almost ruined me. If not that I'm an Esan man , by now , I would have been dead. No esan man's wife would commit adultery without consequences, in fact it is punishable by death only early confession can save the woman. My ex is still not OK because she confessed almost at point of death.

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by Enemyofpeace: 11:02pm On Sep 24, 2019
Na this one Kwara people dey call o to ge, meaning e don do grin grin

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Re: My Wife Is Using Excuses To Abandon Me by friendl: 11:02pm On Sep 24, 2019
Oga ,sometimes you need to prove to women you are not soft ,..there is no atom of regard ,everything is clear

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