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Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 9:47pm On Sep 28, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:I do not find humour in ignorance muttley. The only thing found in ignorance is death! And before you go "humour". The below is plain unfunny ignorance. MuttleyLaff: |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by chieveboy(m): 10:17pm On Sep 28, 2019 |
jamesid29: Exactly what l was saying. That book belonged to the Jews. l suppose Christianity is different from Judaism. Christians 'defend' truth with scriptures, where did God sanctioned the almagamation of the Torah into Christianity? Talking about courses in Christian History, did you consider a course in the history of the Torah itself? Did God inspire it too? Why was it necessary for Christians if not that there was need to include stories of our purported origin? Understand that my grouse with some of you Christians is coming from statement of people like oladeboo as in when he mentioned something in the lines of not believing "fallible sinners"(scientists). You make it seem like the Bible was one infallible document of facts of itself and Christians enjoy Monopoly of understanding or wisdom. An average person like this cannot think outside the minutest of the box of truth that the Bible or any other book is. Do you know that scientists have even unravelled most of the stories of the bible beyond what some of the uninformed writers of the Bible envisaged? Consider the case of Galileo who was made to suffer from being a scientist of his time as against the understanding of the editors of what you now have as the bible, only recently the body of the organization responsible for your bible apologized for Galileo. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by MuttleyLaff: 12:33am On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum:[img]https://s0/images/NoStopIt.jpg[/img] Take a step back budaatum. What appears to you, what you've read, or what you've perceived it to be budaatum, is just part of it all. The remaining other parts of it all, are either hidden from you, aren't visible to you, or you're just plain and outright unfunny ignorant of them. So budaatum, my dear friend, its better to learn, not to be, in the usual habit of arriving at hasty conclusions. Better not to be judgemental and be launching uncalled for scathing attacks on me, until you're fully aware and know the entire detail about the primordial, Mother Earth and the reason why I pasted Sunday, the 23rd of October 4004 BC against your posted "4 April 4004BC?" comment. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 1:13am On Sep 29, 2019 |
MuttleyLaff:Go tell it to the person you misled to believe he was not ignorant muttley. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by MuttleyLaff: 1:29am On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum: My comment was addressed to no one other than you, to mind the long and big "plank of pride" in your eye before pointing out the little "speck" in others. OK? Any envisaged free rider is your problem, not mine budaatum, and along the way, you do know that Adam was not deceived budaatum, right? Adam was not misled. Adam was not ignorant Isnt it weird and amazing that sometimes when you remove the log from your own eyes, you will see that the other person had no speck there, after all the budaatum suspicions. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 1:58am On Sep 29, 2019 |
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Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 2:17am On Sep 29, 2019 |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by MuttleyLaff: 2:47am On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum:budaatum, it is a tragedy for you that I am under no obligation, to make sense to you nor especially, when you, in your, typical puerile and jejune behavior, see me as doing "blah, yada, blah, yada, blah, yada" Smh, lost opportunity to catch a glimpse of the gems in the sea of what budaatum alleged to be endless "blah, yada, blah, yada, blah, yada" Never mind, this is déjà moo for me, because I know I have experienced this your, typical and nauseating "blah, yada, blah, yada, blah, yada" puerile jejune behavior bullshit from you budaatum before and before and before. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 4:14am On Sep 29, 2019 |
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Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by Amujale(m): 4:19pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Our planet is said to be millions and millions of years old. Most historians use approximately 4.5 billion years old. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by Nobody: 8:06pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
All these silly threads people create on Nairaland. SMH. They're a sad reflection of Nigeria's moribund education sector, especially science and technology. It's a sorry case. 1 Like |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by Nobody: 8:10pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Joke of the century! So, we should trust a so-called holy book, the Bible, replete with (scientific and historical) errors and contradictions instead of science? Lol, this is a new low in reasoning. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:13pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
gensteejay: What of the fact that many scientists who got their PhD from the most prestigious institutions around the world actually hold the Bible to be true? Does it reflect the moribund state of education in those countries too? Or tell me, is education measured by how much evolution is mixed with it? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 8:16pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
gensteejay:We are here to make up for the "sad reflection of Nigeria's moribund education sector, especially science and technology", so if you want us to stop being "sorry state", educate us here gensteejay instead of condemning us for showing our ignorance. You are afterall here to share knowledge, ba? 1 Like |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by Nobody: 8:23pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:Lol. I don't even need to waste my time on this sort of discussion. You're right; the whole of science is nonsense and only your own Bible (though you didn't state the correct version out of the many out there) is right. Away from science, all the histories of civilizations that had existed for at least 10,000 years ago (well documented) are false and only your Bible that was cobbled together about 2000 years ago is right. The earth is about 6000 years old. It's really a sorry case. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:34pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
gensteejay:I agree, you don't need to waste your time. You're right; the whole of science is nonsensethis is a strawman argument. When will you stop using it? and only your own Bible (though you didn't state the correct version out of the many out there) is right.Lol. The many versions of the Bible contain the same information. Only different renderings. You're right though, the Bible is very accurate. Away from science, all the histories of civilizations that had existed for at least 10,000 years ago (well documented)Did you know? Dating methods have underlying assumptions. A good number of these assumptions are not necessarily true. are false and only your Bible that was cobbled together about 2000 years ago is right.Yeah, I believe that. It's really a sorry case. What's more sorry is that the evolutionists who control the media are censoring opposing ideas. They don't even want you to know that there are people who hold different opinions, not to talk allowing you a chance of considering the opposing arguments. Why don't you check out [url]Creation.com[/url]? 1 Like |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by Nobody: 8:40pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
Don't quote me on this silly thread. Ignorant lot! Using the brain and the two eyes to read must be so difficult for some. These ones, too, will call themselves graduates or literate Nigerians. Lol |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 8:45pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
So budaatum, tell me, is this one ^^^ among the intellectuals? 1 Like |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 9:00pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien: Intellect is the faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively, especially with regard to abstract matters. One studies available information on a subject objectively, as in, without personal bias, preconceived opinions or subjective blindness, before coming to a conclussion on the matter. The evidence for the age of planet earth being much older than biblical suggestions is rather overwhelming so 'intellectuals' who hold to a young earth, in my own subjective opinion, must lack somewhere on the intellectual scale where this particular subject is concerned. They sure are not showing much book reading intelligence if they place one book so far above every other book on the subject, so I'd say their intellect, on this subject, is deficient and not completely there. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 9:05pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:You had a point here. One shouldn't expect a Poetry Phd to know much on the matter if they haven't bothered to learn about it. But nor should they be making out its something they have a clue about. But I guess that's asking for some honesty - an admission of how little one knows. And as they say, flying pigs. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:08pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum: The above bolded is the most important part of this post of yours. All these things are true only in your opinion and in the opinion of people who hold the same view with you. Very honest of you. I must comment that you're beginning to show understanding, the first sign of which is honesty. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by MuttleyLaff: 9:12pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien: MuttleyLaff:budaatum is a fast learner, that is why |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:15pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum: Lol. When I say there are scientists with PhD who hold the Bible to be true, I don't mean PhD in poetry. I mean PhD in those very fields you consider science: Math, physics, biology, chemistry, engineering, medicine, etc. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 9:15pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:I always try to be honest Alien, since I was like two years old, so it's not a "beginning to show understanding, the first sign". I delight your eyes open so you now see. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by Nobody: 9:16pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
You people are still living in Stone Age. Look at what the so-called educated Nigerians are discussing in the 21st century! Primitive people. Last week, I read the 15-year plan of the US for their Particle Physics program in a document titled, "Revealing the Hidden Nature of Space and Time," and how their government charted a course to remain a global leader in the science world. And I felt sorry for this country. It's a pity Nigeria, for the next 100 years at least, will continue to be a slave of these First World countries. Since most of us, the Nigerian government at all levels inclusive, are too daft to see the importance of education, research, science and technology. And instead focus their thoughts on praying to fictitious figures. No people, no nation becomes great by praying. For any country to achieve greatness, such people will value education (especially science and technology because these 2 are crucial tools to discover and understand life mysteries) and research. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 9:24pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:First, the Bible is true, as in it does what it promises to do on the cover which is take you to paradise. But if you are "PhD in those very fields you consider science: Math, physics, biology, chemistry, engineering, medicine, etc", and hold the position of a young earth, then something is wrong there and we should investigate the institution that awarded you a PhD, because studying those sciences would hardly have left you time to consider biblical age as viably possible and you ought to have intellectually abandoned it anyway in light of contradictory evidence. At best we would perhaps suggest you have a bias and are attempting to use pseudoscience to validate it. |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 9:33pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:Please note that "holding the same view" is insufficient. One must actually use ones faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively, especially with regard to abstract matters, and after doing so, go back and check one has used ones faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively, especially with regard to abstract matters, and learn lessons from there to ensure that when one next uses ones faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively, especially with regard to abstract matters, one uses ones faculty of reasoning and understanding objectively especially with regard to abstract matters even better. That's how one gets to "true" that is closer to the truth, at least for oneself. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:34pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum:yeah, this is a nice idea. Some of them got their degrees from Harvard. You can start the investigation from Harvard. because studying those sciences would hardly have left you time to consider biblical ageexactly what evolutionists are trying to achieve, to infect every field of knowledge with their ideas, and proclaim them very essential to those fields. As though science was not moving on when evolution was not the ruling paradigm. But they have not succeeded. In fact, much to their chagrin, the various fields of knowledge do just fine (I say even better) without evolutionary ideas. as viably possible and you ought to have intellectually abandoned it anyway in light of contradictory evidence.Lol. Just as evolutionists should have abandoned their ideas in the light of contradictory evidence. At best we would perhaps suggest you have a bias and are attempting to use pseudoscience to validate it. Sounds to me like you're describing evolutionists. 1 Like |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 9:44pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
This thread is not about evolution Alien, please don't equivocate it with young earthism, they are very cleary distinct. Show me one single phd in harvard doing young earth if you would please. DoctorAlien: 1 Like |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 9:51pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum: They are not doing "young earth". They are doing science. And they have PhD from Harvard. And they believe that the Earth and the universe is young. Check our Kurt Wise, and Nathaniel Jeanson. 2 Likes |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by budaatum: 10:22pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
DoctorAlien:I have checked them both out alien. Kurt Wise is not at Harvard, he studied there under Jay Gould and his thesis was contrary to his later young earth beliefs. This is he: "Although there are scientific reasons for accepting a young earth, I am a young age creationist because that is my understanding of the Scripture. As I shared with my professors years ago when I was in college, if all the evidence in the universe turns against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate." He is saying he will stick to his beliefs regardless of the evidence which is intellectually dishonest in my opinion. I could not find anything with which to form an objective opinion about nathaniel jeanson, apart from he studied at Harvard and does not appear to be doing science now. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Age Of Earth - Scientists Lie! by DoctorAlien(m): 10:45pm On Sep 29, 2019 |
budaatum: The main thing has been proven: they got their PhD from Harvard. Whether they're presently at Harvard or not is irrelevant. Moreover it is not baffling if the majority of the people at Harvard are evolutionists. That is the ruling paradigm. Does not make evolution true. Harvard may be a good school, but it doesn't mean that PhD gotten from other schools around the world are somehow inferior. Check out this list of current PhD scientists who believe that the universe is young: https://creation.com/creation-scientists#modern Be sure though, that when you say that someone is not doing science, you don't mean that he's not doing evolution. Evolution is not science. |
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