mrvitalis:

If we hated Yoruba's so much why did we vote OBJ ...it seems u don't even see my point

So what do you expect from Igbo's in 2023

U want Igbo's to vote south west in 2023 ? And why

mrvitalis:

Because we are compassionate ....if we practice regional government no Igbo man would really be interested in the presidency

Kapilta:
abiola? Osinbajo as VP again, 2nd term now sef? The only time you seems to win which didn't eventually happen because a yoruba man was still crowned was 99 with Obasanjo.

LegendHero:


It is not because you are compassionate, it is because you are a conquered people and the Fulanis knew you are useful slaves.

If we still practice regional government, the Igbos would have been using Visa to enter the western region coz the rate of the growth of the defunct western region is an envy of the world.

Azikwe had to make sure they halted the growth of our region when he conspired with the northerners to charge Awolowo of treason so that they can tame him. He would later regret it tho coz the same Awolowo was instrumental to the defeat of Biafra later on. A brainy man greater than any Nigerian dead or alive.

mrvitalis:

The people that made sure awolowo never became more than a finance minister

mrvitalis:

Was obj really a Yoruba man ? Or his brother from Onitsha the son of the late obi of onitsha ...lol

Well after abiola as Igbo's we felt pity for a major tribe who has never really been democratically elected

LegendHero:
The Yorubas on this thread should not make this an issue of politics so as not to derail the main essence of this thread.

The reason I created this is to show us the development and success of the Western region. We would have been the envy of the world if we had maintained that regional government truncated by the Igbos and logically executed later by the North. We would have achieved more as an independent entity than being in this union called Nigeria.

mrvitalis:

How did abiola end ...then end justify the means

He strategically avoided awolowo

Osaze007:


Edo & delta would have done well I’m certain their won’t have been a military take over in western Nigeria

LegendHero:
The Yorubas on this thread should not make this an issue of politics so as not to derail the main essence of this thread.

The reason I created this is to show us the development and success of the Western region. We would have been the envy of the world if we had maintained that regional government truncated by the Igbos and logically executed later by the North. We would have achieved more as an independent entity than being in this union called Nigeria.

LegendHero:

The Yorubas need no forgiveness from you because a master can never sought forgiveness from a slave.

We are superior than you in the past and the present.

Kapilta:
sure, a slave have no right to hold grudge against his master. If Awolowo had not done what he did, the war will linger on and prolly all of your fathers would have been exterminated from the surface of this earth buh helped forced Ojukwu to surrender so innocent people can stop suffering. Ode. Go embrace your master, it's nothing new. Even after the war, you returned back to them so wetin come new for there again.

LegendHero:


I wanted to add Edo also but I don't want to make people accuse me of deciding for other people but I know the Edos and the Yorubas share a lot in common.

I have some of the archives that shows how the Eastern and Northern hemogeny made sure the mid-west is formed from the western region just to limit the growth and dominance of the western region.

We would have been great by being together but the conspiracy was well planned out.

LegendHero:


I wanted to add Edo also but I don't want to make people accuse me of deciding for other people but I know the Edos and the Yorubas share a lot in common.

I have some of the archives that shows how the Eastern and Northern hemogeny made sure the mid-west is formed from the western region just to limit the growth and dominance of the western region.

We would have been great by being together but the conspiracy was well planned out.

Kapilta:
you are so on point bro. I'm 1000% fully with you. We must revolt and take back our land from invaders and intruders. They've caused our lands too much ruins. To hell with One Nigeria

LegendHero:


God bless you bro. I even have it in my archives some of the investment of Awolowo in Lagos then, they always try to project Lagos success as a influence of the Nigerian capital while negating the effect of Awolowo investment in Lagos itself. Lagos was made before they (Igbos) infiltrated it because of the economic opportunities it offers to the average Nigerian.

LegendHero:


Bro I swear one Nigeria limited our growth.

We have Lagos with the sea port, investments, and the economy (Crude oil is also here in tiny deposits).
We have Ogun state with the Industries and intellects ( Crude oil is also here in tiny deposits).
We have Oyo state with the landmass for Agriculture to feed the Yoruba nation.
We have Ondo state with the crude oil (infact the 5th or 6th largest producer of crude oil in Nigeria).
We have Ekiti with its natural resources and its academicians.
We have Osun state with the gold deposit.
We have our brothers in Kogi, Kwara, and part of Edo also to join the league.

Why can't we stand alone and harness our resources to complement Awolowo strides. We are born intellectuals, why do we chose to remain in this shackles called Nigeria? why why

LegendHero:


What are you talking about? You Igbos are serial betrayers and you have been in romance with the feudal Fulanis from the onset.
Did you see how the New York Times describes it:
"The Federal government whose prime minister is Abubakar Tafawa Balewa, a muslim notable from the north, is managed by a coalition of the Northern people congress and National council of the Nigeria and the Cameroonians, two parties that have very little in common except mutual dislike of the third (Awolowo)."

The Western region being the most developed, richest, most advance region at then was envied by Azikwe and he had no choice than to side with the Muslim north hiding under the rubbish banner of one Nigeria to perpetrate his hate .

The Igbos through Azikwe betrayed the southern alliance by forming a government with the Northerners and you guys are shamefully justifying that.

Verdict: The Igbos are cowards and serial betrayal of the southern hemogeny.

Kapilta:
the problem is ever since their fall out with their slaves from the yeast, they've maintained a very good relationship with us knowing fully well that if we should also felt being treated bad, that will be the end of them, so they've tried to focus on our lands even though all they've been doing are all mediocrity cuz we would have been much better if we had been alone all these while, so many of our people do not see the need to break away from the useless entity, they don't really know we are the greatest loser in the one useless Nigeria, many of us are realizing daily what we are missing, go on twitter now, go on facebook you'd see Yorubas now talking about Oduduwa which wasn't so before, we are waking up little by little, the media and social media is helping one way or the other, it's not just yet enough. We have to keep using both tools in changing our peoples mind, in making them see the need for Oduduwa nation.

If you should look at the present settings, you'll see that even without us never for once agitating for our own nation, we are already more than prepared to break away from the country buh we can't because of our people, if the refrendum is to be passed, our people will vote against it, they are still yet to be convinced on why we need Oduduwa.

They don't really understand what we are losing, they don't understand we can be better than this, take a tour around yorubaland, you'd be wowed.

We must break free buh first we need our people by our side, keep doing it the way you are doing it right now bro. Believe me, we 'll have many by our side soon and that 'd be the end of Nigeria.

Nigerfine2:

What other artribute was accorded the igbos....THE INTELLIGENT,ENERGETIC IGBOS
we where thinking this was a hear say but this confirms it. This is where the real hatred sprang up.
Regional govt or separate govt really is needed here

LegendHero:


God will bless you. It is as if our minds is in sync. We need to keep educating the Yorubas on the benefit of having out independent entity. The Northerners know that if the West also in their entirety subscribe to the breakup of Nigeria, then this nation is done.

They will try all the can to pacify the Yorubas as they have always do, check the history of Nigeria, irrespective of the government in power, the Yoruba land always enjoy some form of preferential treatment tho it can be argued that the effect is negligible.

This kind of discussion will open the eyes of the Yorubas that are still sleeping. I have a lot of archives with me about the past happening in Nigeria because I am trying to see where we got it wrong and how we can salvage the situation at hand.

LegendHero:


God will bless you. It is as if our minds is in sync. We need to keep educating the Yorubas on the benefit of having out independent entity. The Northerners know that if the West also in their entirety subscribe to the breakup of Nigeria, then this nation is done.

They will try all the can to pacify the Yorubas as they have always do, check the history of Nigeria, irrespective of the government in power, the Yoruba land always enjoy some form of preferential treatment tho it can be argued that the effect is negligible.

This kind of discussion will open the eyes of the Yorubas that are still sleeping. I have a lot of archives with me about the past happening in Nigeria because I am trying to see where we got it wrong and how we can salvage the situation at hand.

LegendHero:

The Yorubas need no forgiveness from you because a master can never sought forgiveness from a slave.

We are superior than you in the past and the present.

kotv:


This is laughable to say the least. Yorubas are more than eligible to leave Nigeria and noone would make any effort to stop you people. What do Nigeria gain from Yorubas? Absolutely nothing. You claim to be most devoted and thriving yet, we've yet to witness the sort.
South West remain the only region in Nigeria to have not witness any set back such as militants or war yet, you still the most backwards states in Nigeria. Anyone that's been to South West can report there's no form of growth to report. You can leave and nobody can make any effort to pacify you. You people greediness and backwards politics is what destroyed the little progress we were making few years ago.

Yoruba can GO!

Kapilta:
where will get it all wrong was when we allowed them to create states from the old western region, that was the greatest mistake ever, you know Ibadan was the only and major recognise capital of entire Yorubaland even pre-indepence while Lagos was the commercial center, evey Yoruba work hard then for the development of this very two cities cuz that's where all yoruba pledge their allegiance and reason the two cities were fast developing, immediately they created states out of the western region, everyone faced their new states and abandoned the two cities, Lagos was able to stand because it was the capital buh Ibadan suffered it the most as the formal capital and one of the fastest developing city in the world then, that was how it was left to ruins all this while untill 2014 when Oodua investment company which has been owned by the old western region raised the alarm of abadonment which eventually led to the creation of dawn commission, this new organization was hence tasked with the development in the region, and they with Oodua investment are really doing a very wonderful job in trying to revive the lost glory.

It was dawn commision that hosted the governors the other time when fulani menace was so rampant where they decided on joint regional security and many other that they are doing, go to Ibadan and see new estates springing up, thanks to Oodua investment.

It's not enough you know, there's really nothing as good as having a soverign state where all your resources are used by you for yourself and also, our brothers in Kwara and Kogi are left out in the development. And then again, the two organisation are all about reviving Ibadan first which other state are complainimg about as stakeholders, they want their presence in their states too buh you know how many years Ibadan has been left for ruins, reviving it will take time. And again the two organization can only handle few, they can't do FG jobs like roads and other development, the way badagry has also been left for ruins too is worrisome and many other reason we must continue to push for ourown sovereign state no matter the tactics the north employ. If our people are being massively denied visa to developed countries they would see the need for a better oduduwa.

Anago0147:
. You guys are really good at this

Mouthing!!! Damn!

Can you walk up to any Igbo man in the street of Lagos and tell him you are superior to him?

What becomes of you will be read here just like the other one that wanted to stop the voting process in the just concluded 2019 election

Anago0147:
. Chaiii. This is laughable

Wait for tinubu militia group to catch you with this your oduduwa crap

Kapilta:
where will get it all wrong was when we allowed them to create states from the old western region, that was the greatest mistake ever, you know Ibadan was the only and major recognise capital of entire Yorubaland even pre-indepence while Lagos was the commercial center, evey Yoruba work hard then for the development of this very two cities cuz that's where all yoruba pledge their allegiance and reason the two cities were fast developing, immediately they created states out of the western region, everyone faced their new states and abandoned the two cities, Lagos was able to stand because it was the capital buh Ibadan suffered it the most as the formal capital and one of the fastest developing city in the world then, that was how it was left to ruins all this while untill 2014 when Oodua investment company which has been owned by the old western region raised the alarm of abadonment which eventually led to the creation of dawn commission, this new organization was hence tasked with the development in the region, and they with Oodua investment are really doing a very wonderful job in trying to revive the lost glory.

It was dawn commision that hosted the governors the other time when fulani menace was so rampant where they decided on joint regional security and many other that they are doing, go to Ibadan and see new estates springing up, thanks to Oodua investment.

It's not enough you know, there's really nothing as good as having a soverign state where all your resources are used by you for yourself and also, our brothers in Kwara and Kogi are left out in the development. And then again, the two organisation are all about reviving Ibadan first which other state are complainimg about as stakeholders, they want their presence in their states too buh you know how many years Ibadan has been left for ruins, reviving it will take time. And again the two organization can only handle few, they can't do FG jobs like roads and other development, the way badagry has also been left for ruins too is worrisome and many other reason we must continue to push for ourown sovereign state no matter the tactics the north employ. If our people are being massively denied visa to developed countries they would see the need for a better oduduwa.

LegendHero:


Lol, this should be the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard in my life. The southwest as it stands today contribute the greatest revenue to this country from the non-oil sector.

Lagos alone has turned to a refugee camp for all other ethnic tribes because of the economic opportunities it offers.

Ogun state IGR alone is more than the combined one for the 5 SE states.

If the SW were to declare to leave Nigeria, that means all the economic asset of other tribes in Nigeria will leave with it which will make it hard for Nigeria to let go.

Dangote multi billion dollar refinery alone located in the SW is important that any investment in any other region in Nigeria which explains the importance of the SW.

SW or Yoruba part has been the most advance, developed, and successful region right from 1914 through 1969 till date. No same person dare argue that fact.

We are waking up now and telling the other Yorubas that are still under thr illusion of one Nigeria to wake up from their slumber and embrace the new wave of reality.