Osaze007:


If we are using hospital beds and car regristration to measure wealth India is the richest country in the world

LegendHero:


Does this guy even know what he is saying for God sake, why will you come online to disgrace yourself bro.

The rift between Awo and Akintola was part of the grand conspiracy of the northerners with the Zik. They tried all they can to break the western region and Awolowo will never bend to their will because he was not a stooge to the north. They had to use Akintola to get back at him which led to the fracas of that time.

When the colonials came, Ibadan was already a city of wonders and it wasn’t built by those you mentioned. Your problem is that while you’re trying to elevate your region you’re missing the actual fact here.

Below shows the New York Times column about Ibadan and you can see what I’m talking about. Can you see clearly that Ibadan was already built with a working structure even when the other part of Nigeria are still akin to mushroom houses.

pazienza:


The author quoted his sources.
Go deal with them.
Sorry for bursting your fragile egos.

pazienza:


Hospital facilities.
Lol! You would rather have us use the ratio of car owners to the general public? Eastern region would have still come out tops.

LegendHero:


Can you read what you posted?

mrvitalis:

Ekwueme was the one who formed PDP ...oga so relax

Osaze007:


Are you saying in secondary school west maintained the lead chai

LegendHero:


Does this guy even know what he is saying for God sake, why will you come online to disgrace yourself bro.

The rift between Awo and Akintola was part of the grand conspiracy of the northerners with the Zik. They tried all they can to break the western region and Awolowo will never bend to their will because he was not a stooge to the north. They had to use Akintola to get back at him which led to the fracas of that time.

When the colonials came, Ibadan was already a city of wonders and it wasn’t built by those you mentioned. Your problem is that while you’re trying to elevate your region you’re missing the actual fact here.

Below shows the New York Times column about Ibadan and you can see what I’m talking about. Can you see clearly that Ibadan was already built with a working structure even when the other part of Nigeria are still akin to mushroom houses.

LegendHero:


Do you see the emphasis. [b]The West’s secondary modern school system gave it the lead

pazienza:


Ibadan always was a village where mud houses were clustered together in such unhealthy way as to allow proper hygiene and ventilation. This unhealthy cluster is what you call city.

In contrast, Igbos lived mostly at distance from each other, allowing for good ventilation and lesser chances of disease spread. This could explain why the Igbo though having smaller land mass had more population than Yorubas when the British arrived.

Awo and Akintola were typical cunningly greedy Yoruba men who couldn't put their personal greed and ego aside to work together. From both of their wives fighting for the right to sole distributorship of Coca Cola in Western region, to their fight for control of Western region, with Akintola re enacting Afonja part 2, when he went and invited the Fulani (Saraduna and Balewa) to help him wrestle power from Greedy Awolowo.

It's only funny that you are trying to link Zik into your local mess.

LegendHero:


Can you read what you posted?
At the elementary level the number of teachers in the East in 1963 was 8099 as compared with the west 3740.

At the secondary level, the West’s secondary modern school system gave it the lead with 6525 teachers as compared to the East’s 2070.

Do you see the keyword. The West’s secondary modern school system gave it the lead

In the primary schools, the western region already implemented the free education policy such that the younger generations already got elevated to secondary school and the sage is investing more in secondary education coz of the influx of Primary school leavers.

Even the great Zik will not dare measure the western region supremacy in education with any other tribe and I am amazed that you can even debate this.

mandarin:
The old western region has really lost ground in Nigeria when you compare those three regions holistically today.
However, I think its imperative that the Yoruba and Igbo work together even if just for the sake of political freedom. Winning supports from the middle belt is easy because there are enough cracks in the wall up there to exploit.

pazienza:


Your initial supremacy was as a result of proximity to Lagos and first contact with the British.
By 1940s, Ndiigbo had obliterated your lead, and by 1960s, we were firmly in the lead.

LegendHero:


You just keep mentioning the British and talking about one proximity. This is the statistics of student in schools in the western region during the 1950s-1960s and the regional budget on education. I want you to give me a detailed list of the same for the eastern region coz it seems I can’t actually get your drift.

Do you mean to the British are the one that built the economy of the Western region or what exactly are you talking about bro?

pazienza:


Your initial supremacy was as a result of proximity to Lagos and first contact with the British.
By 1940s, Ndiigbo had obliterated your lead, and by 1960s, we were firmly in the lead.

pazienza:


Your initial supremacy was as a result of proximity to Lagos and first contact with the British.
By 1940s, Ndiigbo had obliterated your lead, and by 1960s, we were firmly in the lead.

pazienza:


Western region didn't excel post independence.
It crashed. You couldn't handle yourselves. You descended into your usual inter tribal bloody wrestling matches, reminiscent of your kiriji days.
You couldn't handle self governance. You couldn't live with yourselves. It was operation weetie and wild wild west, hacking down each other in streets. While Zik and Ita mended their differences, Awo and Akintola couldn't, peaceful resolution of conflicts is not your nature. [/s]

The Coaco house was built by the colonists.


[s] Western region achieved next to nothing post independence.
All you achieved before then was courtesy of having earlier contacts with the British and the capital city status of Lagos in addition to its proximity to you[/s].

[s]Before the colonials came, you were fighting each other, when they left in 1960, you started where you stopped. Nigerian unity united you by presenting Ndiigbo as a common enemy around which you all must unite, Awo and his gang worked on that.
You probably dread Nigeria disintegration because you know once that happens, you would have to deal with each other again, and that would mean Kiriji part 3.

pazienza:

plaindealer:
[s][/s]


This is why I don't go back and forth with Igbos and illiterates with zero sense of history, nit even their own history.

Please, kindly go away.

plaindealer:
[s][/s]


This is why I don't go back and forth with Igbos and illiterates with zero sense of history, nit even their own history.

Please, kindly go away.

pazienza:


Did Yorubas build it?

I always thought it was built before independence and by a foreign contractor.

Maybe we are not understanding each other.

LegendHero:


You haven't answered my question, what are the statistics of actual enrollments in the East by then coz anyone can just write a journal and quote figure that cannot be backed by evidence. ISn't it absurd to say the Eastern region will have a higher proportion of primary schools student than the western region as at then when the WR was light years ahead the other regions in implementing the free primary education which led to mass primary education in the West.

I have given you the statistics of the actual enrollment of students in the West with the budget allocation to back up mu claim. You did not bring any quantifiable statistics other than mere percentage quoting from an unknown author.

LegendHero:


Brother what are you even implying?

Do you mean the Yorubas paid for the building but the contractors are the whites?

Or you mean the whites owned the money and built the building for the Yorubas?

pazienza:


Why should I spoon feed you.
If you are interested in the actual numbers, go and dig them up, Paul Abner provided the source of his data.

The only thing I'm interested in is that the Eastern had more enrolment figures than the West.

It's akin to asking for raw figures for WAEC performance stat.
Why should I border? All I care is that all SE states are in top 10 and that Abia state leads the table.

pazienza:


The way Yorubas talk about building the house, I got the impression they are implying Yoruba Engineers built it.

pazienza:


The way Yorubas talk about building the house, I got the impression they are implying Yoruba Engineers built it.

LegendHero:

LOL

I give up on you. Nairalanders this Igbo bro thought the Yorubas engineers independently built a Sky Scraper (Cocoa House) in the 1950s, What does this tells you about his level of intelligence?

I won't continue any conversation with you again coz it might turn out to be a brain drain

pazienza:


So if Yoruba engineers didn't build it.
What's the point bragging about it?

You decided to spend your hard earned money to build an unnecessary white elephant project for ego massage of claiming to have the tallest building in West Africa, even when you had no constant electricity to power it's lift. While Eastern region invested our money on solving practical essential needs like improving electricity generation and supply for industrial and home use.

Why then are you lots going on and on about building cocoa house. It never made sense to me. Which was why I assumed you were claiming to have built it using local Yoruba engineers.

LegendHero:


I am telling you that guy is something else. I would have stopped engaging him in argument but I want to rid him of his ignorance coz he just kept shouting the colonialist developed the Western region and when you ask him what his sources are, he started lying they built Cocoa House.

I just weak

LegendHero:


We are not fighting now, I’m just asking you for more sources to back your claims. I gave you the raw stat of the actual number of enrollments in the western region and going by calculation based on the ratio on your article, it devoid normal logic to come at that numbers projected by the author.

Now you’re trying to make it about WAEC? How many of your universities ranks in the top 5 in Nigeria? How many professors do you boast of? How many research patents do your intellectuals churn out? Is WaEC rating the only determinant of education ?

Osaze007:


Goal post has been shifted