EMILO2STAY:
still going in circles?,... I give up Mr man.

EMILO2STAY:
still going in circles?,... I give up Mr man.

MuttleyLaff:
I have given up on you a long long time ago even before when I earlier asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels. You then prevaricated and ducked the request, before developing the gall and cheek to be contesting that Cain's descendants are not the sons of men and/or daughters of men. Unless you respond, you arent ever going to live this down

EMILO2STAY:
mtchewww!!!!

MuttleyLaff:
Lol, smh look at someone who believes angels had sexual intercourse with female human beings doing mtchewww, letting that shameless and confused baba/mama be egging him on and encouraging him to remain languishing as an ignoranus.

Unless you provide the proof, thats beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, to show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels, you will never live it down. Now more frankly typing, I am embarrassed for you, because you have not the grace or humility to realize how a fool you've made of yourself on this thread, aside from taking pride and delight in your ignorances and ignoranus self

EMILO2STAY:
mtcheww

MuttleyLaff:
Mtcheww yourself

EMILO2STAY:
some of you just like complicating simple things. The bible made it clear the nephilim were as a result of angels and humans sleeping together. Yet you guys are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

MuttleyLaff:
I dont know where and how from, in the Bible, you've got misled to believe in that fable and fictitious story. Man always have an innate desire to propagate tittle-tattle, cőck and bull story that angels and humans sleeping together. Butter nobi monkey food. Who dash monkey angels banana

EMILO2STAY:
well if you don't believe that is your problem. The evidence this begins existed is around us today. All this goes to confirm the bible. So if you are forming wise man by not believing that is your problem.

MuttleyLaff:
Why would I believe a slander? Dont people have no shame in believing in this slander ni, erhn? Now tell me, what's being gained and/or achieved with this cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together belief, hmm?

Dont you know that "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour," the eighth commandment, forbids speaking falsely in any matter, and you're in any way, not to speak unjustly against your neighbor, especially to the prejudice of his/her reputation. In fact, lying, especially when devised and designed to slander your neighbor, whether an angelic celestial being or not is a total no-no

Where is the evidence, what is your evidence, put it out then, let's see if it will stand up. Let's see if your cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together belief will remain valid after a close scrutiny, critical review and/or detailed analysis, erhn?

Yes I am forming wise man, in not believing a fabled cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together. It is called conformity of the mind to the fact(s) and it isnt a problem.

The best thing about forming wise man is Wisdom herself. Good sense is more important than anything else, a multitude of the wise is the health of the world. "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding", so says Proverbs 4:7 and Proverbs 3:13 corroborates, by saying: "Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who acquires understanding," so what's your problem, with any forming wise man, huh?

EMILO2STAY:
lol the fact your forming wise does not mean your wise. I will prove your with wisdom to be empty if I begin to give you evidence. I dont think you want to go that direction with me.

MuttleyLaff:
You laughed because I am sure you know I didnt first bring up the subject wise, you did and literally did, with an accusitive wagging forefinger too.

Pride comes before the fall

I'll go any direction and 10 miles further with you. Yes, you should feel lucky, so make your first move

MuttleyLaff:
Why would I want you to add to the Bible? Have I asked to you to add to the bible or actually asked you to back up your answers with Bible and prove beyond reasonable doubt, hmm? I have been fair and generous from the onset with you. I even gave you the option to say "I don't know" that's if you are finding it answering any of the questions. What more do you expect from me

Hmm, Chief please don't start with porkies. I won't lie to you, so please don't lie to me too. I never anywhere, said there were no Nephilim. I never attributed the Nephilim any time to be sons of God. Please go over again all what I typed and asked you concerning the Nephilim and sons of God

Smh, if you had answered all my questions, all this won't happen and you trying to make excuses that I am typing too many words. Do you find my "too many words" intimidating or threatening ni?

I already made myself clear how and when that will happen. Do the right thing and in order, instead of trying to pull a fast one and jumping the gun

To be honest, I am increasingly beginning to think you're out of your depth here with this subject, but you don't want to admit or resign to this fact

MuttleyLaff:
You're a greater and/or bigger joke than I could ever be. You just wait, you'll soon see and find out. You would eat your words and tender profuse apology for talking out of hand like this

I have asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses, but you've woefully been unable to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are or equates to angels

The book of Job, hasn't got anything in it calling sons of God angels.

2 Peter, never said anything about sons of God being angels, but rather it is talking about fables and people like you believing in and spreading rumours that angels had sex with human beings

The book(s) of Enoch, right from the first century has been known to fake, this is why Peter and Jude, even Paul, were talking against it in their individual letters.

It is only a naïve person that will type such a comment like this.

It doesn't diminish the fact and truth about the extraction of whom the daughters of men are. Wickedness started from Cain.

The men in Genesis 6:1, refers to the combined lot of the sons of God and the sons of men, obviously encompasses the daughters of men and daughters of God

budaatum:
This thread shows how some will insist that their own belief is the only correct opinion out of all the opinions that may possibly exist on a subject.

For those who may learn, as opposed to those who's desire is to believe, wiki has compiled various opinions on Nephilim for your consideration.

MuttleyLaff:

budaatum, you asked me the question "What was Jude saying, and is it what I said below or not?" so, let me put my cards on the table, straight open face up with these, as in what you did not say.

budaatum:
Sorry muttley, but there's no way I'm digging through that for the answer to the simple question I asked.

When you do bother to answer it, hola buda.

budaatum:

muttley,

When you do bother to answer it, hola buda.

budaatum:
muttley,

When you do bother to answer it, hola buda

MuttleyLaff:
I have shined my eyes. I always shine my eyes. Even when crying, pesin still dey see road nau.

budaatum when you look in a mirror, the face you see and that beholds you is a unique representation face of you. Same thing, when MuttleLaff, looks in a mirror, the face MuttleyLff sees and that beholds MuttleyLaff is a unique representation MuttleyLaff's face.

budaatum, you are conflating "monogenes" with "gennao." Jesus is "monogenes", budaatum, MuttleyLaff and any other human beings are "gennao"

Everywhere you search in the Bible budaatum, you will find that it is only Jesus Christ who is referrred to as "begotten" or "monogenes" of God and no other person but Him alone. Give it a rest guv'nor, biko, jor.

kkins25:
Who can challenge the metatron of God himself?

kkins25:
Surely you hold all understanding hidden to us "common sons of God".

kkins25:
Do burden me with how the miracle of Jesus Christ came about.

kkins25:
What makes jesus "gene" different?

kkins25:
Does thou proclaim that jesus genetic material would differ scientifically from those of common man?

kkins25:
If I carried out a PCR analysis on Jesus Christ and compare his dna with dat of his mother using BLAST- I would find considerable, mind boggling Dna?

kkins25:
And how then did this 'foreign' Dna get attached to Jesus?

kkins25:
Considering your comments on affairs between angels and humanity, and miracle are simply a novel idea...

kkins25:
... can humanity now carry out this miracle with respect to you definition of miracle?

MuttleyLaff:














EMILO2STAY, fyi, the internet never forgets. You did a good job of exposing yourself for what you really are. An ignoranus, pompous self opinionated so and so.

EMILO2STAY:
you still get mouth. I gave you scriptures proving the sons of God to be angels. Were is your own proof that those sons of God mentioned in genesis and job were not angels but mortal men? Were is your proof?!!!!??. I have given you proof beyond reasonable doubt. the ball is in your court, it is time for you to play. But instead you keep ranting carlessly. Again I said were is your proof. Bring it on am waiting.

Maamin:
I remember sometime last year where I discussed this very issue of sons of God with MuttleyLaff in a different thread. With all evidence from Genesis 6:2 , Job 1:6-8, Job 2:1-2, Jude , 2 Peter ..and Even BOOK Of Enoch. I think it's only pride and self indoctrination that wi makeone to calme that the sons of God are not angels.

Maamin:
I remember sometime last year where I discussed this very issue of sons of God with MuttleyLaff in a different thread. With all evidence from Genesis 6:2 , Job 1:6-8, Job 2:1-2, Jude , 2 Peter ..and Even BOOK Of Enoch. I think it's only pride and self indoctrination that will make one to claim that the sons of God are not angels.

MuttleyLaff:
See my comment below

"To an ill-informed and unprejudiced mind, the words, as they stand in Genesis 6:4, states, as clear as day, that the Nephilim, who were on the earth in those days, as existing, before the sons of God began to go into the daughters of men. It didnt even say marry or know them, as Adam and others intimately knew their wives, but says: "the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men." Bluntly put, the "sons of God" wham! bam! thank you ma'am! fairked the "daughters of men" literally."
- by MuttleyLaff: 8:38am On Feb 12 2019

The above inverted commas is what you're asking a Hebrew explanation from. Are you sure I mentioned anything about Hebrew in my comment there, hmm?

I will reply to your other other next post and will get to k.kins25 too asap

OkCornel:
Jude 1 v 6;

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.


Now further questions for those proposing the sons God to be either the Sons of Seth abi Cain?

1) Which angels was Jude referring to in verse 6, and when did they leave their first estate?
2) If you say it is those angels that rebelled alongside Lucifer, shouldn't they all be in everlasting chains right now awaiting judgement? Shouldn't this earth be free from demons and evil spirits?

MuttleyLaff:
Ah, EMILO2STAY has suddenly found his voice.

EMILO2STAY, I know you understand and/or realise I've set an envelopment for you, when I originally, a long long time ago, asked you to provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels, but you refused to bite the bait and get snared, so you woefully failed to say and show where or how you made out that sons of God are and/or equates to angels. You prevaricated and ducked the request, before developing the gall and cheek to be contesting with me, that Cain's descendants are not the sons of men and/or daughters of men. I have said this before that, unless you respond, you arent ever going to live this down.

EMILO2STAY, why dont you just provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels, to see whether or not I wouldn't educate you with proof that those "sons of God" mentioned in Genesis and Job were not angels but were mere mortal humble men. As a matter of fact, the "sons of God" in the Book of Job are humbler than the "sons of God" in the book of Genesis.

EMILO2STAY, you MUST to allow me to minister to you on this matter, in a brief and clearly expressed manner, provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels, then I will set about let you know the truth, the truth that shall set you free, give you healing and deliverance from that lie from the pit of hell that the "sons of God" are angels.

EMILO2STAY, try provide proof beyond reasonable doubt and with chapters and verses proving the sons of God to be angels here, to see if I wouldnt play ball with you.