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Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by Senatorkolade: 4:35pm On Oct 16, 2019
I wonder who are those making policies for your government. There is what is called shock stage, honeymoon stage and adaptation stage. You ban the importation of foreign rice to encourage the consumption of local rice and at the same time increased the price of the same local rice you want people to patronise. The shock stage is refered to earlier is the banning of foreign rice. People will react angrily to it and a good policy maker will introduce honeymoon stage where you start subsidising the production of the local rice to make more cheaper. Now that the foreign rice is around N27,000, you make local rice (Stony or no Stony) to be cheap like around N8000. People will be forced to be eating the abandoned local rice since the foreign rice is out of reach. You continue this honeymoon stage for some years when Nigerian taste would have been adapted to the local rice. That is adaptation stage and you gradually withdrawing the subsidy and allow the market dictate everything. During this stages, government should be working with agricultural researchers on the possible production technology that will give Nigerians the lowest price of a bag of rice. That is what responsible governments in the world do.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by LoveJesus87(m): 5:39pm On Oct 16, 2019
backnbeta:
No way! You'll still pick the stone...just that the taste is really good
No be only taste good, person dey find stoneless u dey talk taste good. Abeg
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by 9jaRealist: 5:41pm On Oct 16, 2019
Cmeo:
No one is losing out. The rent seekers can be heavily taxed thereby resulted in high priced foreign rice, while the small traders can go to local rice which is not heavily taxed and where they can be easily accommodated accordingly
I AGREE there is the possible upside of collecting duties on shipped imports...
But that extra cost will be passed on to consumers, and still does not resolve the issues burdening local production.

Government should work for all ordinary Nigerians, rather than simply adding time strained burden of poor Nigerian consumers in the world’s capital of extreme poverty. Accordingly, instead of taking ill-advised actions that will increase prices (either because there are fewer products in the market or because imports are attracting duties that are simply tagged onto consumer prices), what a serious and thinking government should have done is to tackle the real issues burdening local production, including but not limited to, poor seedlings and poor yields, input, irrigation, storage, logistics, road, rail and internal waterways infrastructure to ensure more timely and efficient transportation of products (we currently lose anywhere from an estimated 40% to 60% of harvested products before they reach market, depending on the produce).

Sadly, the government has elected to pursue cosmetic POPULISM (either due to ignorance or sophistry)...
But these “kick-the-can-down-the-road” actions are not only INEFFECTIVE but will actually HURT the economy further as POVERTY increases.
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Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by backnbeta(f): 5:43pm On Oct 16, 2019
LoveJesus87:
No be only taste good, person dey find stoneless u dey talk taste good. Abeg
Well, they always tell us no stone, but I can't risk it...I still sieve and wash...better safe than sorry undecided
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by 9jaRealist: 6:01pm On Oct 16, 2019
maasoap:
There is no ill-advice in this, it was long overdue. I even pray that there won't be policy reversal this time around because Nigerian government is known policy somersaults over the years. If we can stick to this, we will get it right.

I won't agree with you because there is still enough rice in the market. I haven't heard of anyone who went to the market to buy rice but unable to do so due to scarcity. It is greed in us as Nigerians. There was agricultural board in the olden days that normally determined the price of agricultural produce, may be we need that again since that's the only way to do with greed and corrupt way of life of many Nigerians
There is not...
Nigeria is now Africa’s leading rice producer (having overtaken Egypt in about 2017), but we are still way short of local demand.

Accordingly, even this government grants rice import licenses to some of Nigeria’s biggest local consumers (so long as they show evidence of serious investment in local production), including Olams, Stallion Group and Dangote Foods. This policy will not substantively affect domestic production (that has already been well on the increase and will keep increasing), but rather it will simply INCREASE PRICES of both domestic and imported rice (as we have already seen) for different reasons (the former because of increased demand in an efficient market, and the latter because of the transference of higher tariffs onto prices to the consumer), therefore further IMPOVERISHING POOR NIGERIAN CONSUMERS IN THE WORLD’S CAPITAL OF EXTREME POVERTY! Inflation has already risen from 11.01% to 11.24% in the last month (according to the inflation statistics released by the NBS yesterday), SOLELY on account of increases in the food price index. It will only get WORSE in the Ember months.

As for official price controls (which would be the practical effect of price determination by government marketing boards), our own national experience (not the World Bank’s or the IMF’s) have already shown us that it works to DIS-INCENTIVIZE production and deter investment.
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Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by kiddkash(m): 6:02pm On Oct 16, 2019
Skyfornia:
The border remain closed....Our forefathers ate local rice and lived healthy.
are you trying to say nigerians can't make the choice they want. so if you are harvesting stone, everybody should join you in eating stone and forget rice, beans
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by maasoap(m): 6:24pm On Oct 16, 2019
9jaRealist:
There is not...
Nigeria is now Africa’s leading rice producer (having overtaken Egypt in about 2017), but we are still way short of local demand.

Accordingly, even this government grants rice import licenses to some of Nigeria’s biggest local consumers (so long as they show evidence of serious investment in local production), including Olams, Stallion Group and Dangote Foods. This policy will not substantively affect domestic production (that has already been well on the increase and will keep increasing), but rather it will simply INCREASE PRICES of both domestic and imported rice (as we have already seen) for different reasons (the former because of increased demand in an efficient market, and the latter because of the transference of higher tariffs onto prices to the consumer), therefore further IMPOVERISHING POOR NIGERIAN CONSUMERS IN THE WORLD’S CAPITAL OF EXTREME POVERTY! Inflation has already risen from 11.01% to 11.24% in the last month (according to the inflation statistics released by the NBS yesterday), SOLELY on account of increases in the food price index. It will only get WORSE in the Ember months.

As for official price controls (which would be the practical effect of price determination by government marketing boards), our own national experience (not the World Bank’s or the IMF’s) have already shown us that it works to DIS-INCENTIVIZE production and deter investment.
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Not with the mindset of an average Nigerian, I meant no disrespect because I'm a Nigerian too. As long as the set price doesn't put farmers at loss, I'm okay. But the price that put burden on the consumers in the name of supporting locally grown food is a no no. The current price has nothing to do with the production cost at all
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by LoveJesus87(m): 6:29pm On Oct 16, 2019
backnbeta:
Well, they always tell us no stone, but I can't risk it...I still sieve and wash...better safe than sorry undecided
oh. You can actually exclude the stones through sieving and washing??
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by backnbeta(f): 7:07pm On Oct 16, 2019
LoveJesus87:
oh. You can actually exclude the stones through sieving and washing??
Yeah, there's actually a special way...I learnt from a local rice dealer during a field work, and it's actually effective.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by ofwest47(m): 7:21pm On Oct 16, 2019
Local rice is still the best, I recall in 1951 I was attracted to school over 1Kobo rice during break time periods and till today I prefer local especially Ofada rice to plastic made so called foreign rice. All the wailers clamoring for foreign rice should smuggle themselves out of the country to go and eat foreign rice while the Nigerian borders should remain closed until further notice.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by 9jaRealist: 12:03am On Oct 17, 2019
maasoap:
Not with the mindset of an average Nigerian, I meant no disrespect because I'm a Nigerian too. As long as the set price doesn't put farmers at loss, I'm okay. But the price that put burden on the consumers in the name of supporting locally grown food is a no no. The current price has nothing to do with the production cost at all
It does...

Rice is not just about farmers, but the entire value chain that gets it to your table...
Just the cost of running generators by millers (not to even mention poor logistics) renders local rice price uncompetitive.

Like I noted elsewhere, we have to HONESTLY ask ourselves how rice produced on the other side of the world (often with relatively more expensive labor) and then shipped halfway across the globe still manages to cost SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER than locally-produced rice (stone and all).
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Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by maasoap(m): 7:05am On Oct 17, 2019
9jaRealist:
It does...

Rice is not just about farmers, but the entire value chain that gets it to your table...
Just the cost of running generators by millers (not to even mention poor logistics) renders local rice price uncompetitive.

Like I noted elsewhere, we have to HONESTLY ask ourselves how rice produced on the other side of the world (often with relatively more expensive labor) and then shipped halfway across the globe still manages to cost SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER than locally-produced rice (stone and all).
No. It doesn't. When the local rice was selling at half the current price about a month ago, farmers were not selling at a loss at all. The profit margin might not be much though. But immediately foreign rice was banned, the farmers doubled the farm gate price. That's mean. The fact that we're practising capitalism does not mean we shouldn't be patriotic. Americans, British or Canadians wouldn't do that to one another, they still understand fairness and have these elements of patriotism. Majority of us here are either Muslims or Christians, yet it meant nothing to us whenever we want to be greedy and inflict pain on one another. It's a shame
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by somehow: 2:07pm On Oct 17, 2019
carbon1224:
It’s not about the report but I have tasted it and cooked it as well.na until stone kill person.let them improve on production and nobody will complain about it.
which brand did you buy that contains stones
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by somehow: 2:15pm On Oct 17, 2019
fowlyansh181:
dude, i have local rice right here in my house I bought just two days ago, fck is filled with stones, and my lady is tired of picking it out and I still eat the stones after everything .. I’m going to dash that rice out today
What is the name of the local brand you bought?
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by carbon1224(m): 2:50pm On Oct 17, 2019
somehow:
which brand did you buy that contains stones
You don’t expect me to keep the name of rice product in my head but what I expect from you is to tell us that you can supply us with a stone free rice or give us where we can all get a stone free rice delivered to us and we pay.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by PassingShot(m): 3:23pm On Oct 17, 2019
tomakint:
The madness in the land is unparallel at least this i can confirm almost every time. What is the point of closing border to a neater, stone-free and better parboiled foreign rice when your have not perfected the art of producing quality rice and in larger volume only for a useless and lying government to just rush and close up the borders in their usual mumu way of saying "we want to encourage local patronage of our local rice production" when our annual consumption rates of over 7 million metric tonnes far supercedes our annual production rates of about 4.7 million metric tonnes. The question is, who still practise "protectionism policy in this modern age"?
Keep crying.

I don't know any country in the whole world which doesn't protect one aspect of its economy or the other.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by somehow: 4:49pm On Oct 17, 2019
With the way you have been talking about eating LOCAL RICE filled with stones, how on earth won't you remember the brand?

I will supply you any bag of local rice you want.

#22k for 50KG. Depending on your location, you'll have to pay for delivery. So now, put your mouth where your money is. wink

Mama pride
Bull
Naijasweetrice
Name it.

carbon1224:
You don’t expect me to keep the name of rice product in my head but what I expect from you is to tell us that you can supply us with a stone free rice or give us where we can all get a stone free rice delivered to us and we pay.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by nlPoster: 4:54pm On Oct 17, 2019
somehow:
With the way you have been talking about eating LOCAL RICE filled with stones, how on earth won't you remember the brand?
Not everyone buys by the bag.


You don't know the brand name if you buy by the bowl from the market.

Btw, it's common knowledge the local rice contains stones, I don't know why people are arguing. I've posted how to remove stones and chaff from local rice, others have named the brands that don't have stones, why is there still controversy over this matter?

Thread discussing improved quality Nigerian rice:

https://www.nairaland.com/5475457/which-nigerian-local-rice-brand
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by somehow: 5:59pm On Oct 17, 2019
So how on earth did he then know they are Nigerian rice when they were not branded so?
What if the seller became greedy, added stones to reduce the quantity of rice in stock just to make a profit?

I have been eating Nigerian rice and have never witnessed stones in any! I mean ANY!

Still bought this week and never witnessed any.
nairalandposter:
Not everyone buys by the bag.


You don't know the brand name if you buy by the bowl from the market.

Btw, it's common knowledge the local rice contains stones, I don't know why people are arguing. I've posted how to remove stones and chaff from local rice, others have named the brands that don't have stones, why is there still controversy over this matter?

Thread discussing improved quality Nigerian rice:

https://www.nairaland.com/5475457/which-nigerian-local-rice-brand
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by nlPoster:
somehow:
So how on earth did he then know they are Nigerian rice when they were not branded so?
What if the seller became greedy, added stones to reduce the quantity of rice in stock just to make a profit?

I have been eating Nigerian rice and have never witnessed stones in any! I mean ANY!

Still bought this week and never witnessed any.
It's Nigerian rice, haba.

Available since antiquity. Everyone has always known the local rice has chaff and dirt nah? Some don't, but most do.

Perhaps the stony type is not sold in your area . It's not the sellers adding stones, I feel the rice is either improperly processed for a quick sale or it's what's left after the more refined rice has been removed.

Even some food sellers were cooking two types of rice: the stony one and the pricier refined type. You buy the rice you can afford, if its the cheaper version, you eat it with the stones and chaff, if you have money, you purchase the stone free version.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by chernest2002: 7:44pm On Oct 17, 2019
Buhari and Osinbajo used sachet milk during the 2015 election campaign but have not eaten locally produced rice since they assumed office, hypocrisy of highest order.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by somehow: 11:30pm On Oct 17, 2019
nairalandposter:
It's Nigerian rice, haba.

Available since 20,000 BC. Everyone has always known the local rice has chaff and dirt nah? Some don't, but most do.

Perhaps the stony type is not sold in your area . It's not the sellers adding stones, I feel the rice is either improperly processed for a quick sale or it's what's left after the more refined rice has been removed.

Even some food sellers were cooking two types of rice: the stony one and the pricier refined type. You buy the rice you can afford, if its the cheaper version, you eat it with the stones and chaff, if you have money, you purchase the stone free version.
What is the proof its Nigerian?
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by nlPoster: 11:45pm On Oct 17, 2019
somehow:
What is the proof its Nigerian?
Same proof as yours.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by somehow: 12:33pm On Oct 18, 2019
nairalandposter:
Same proof as yours.
This is senseless. You claimed its Nigerian without any proof.
I didn't assert so need no proof
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by nlPoster: 1:46pm On Oct 18, 2019
somehow:
I am senseless.
You claimed its Nigerian without any proof.

I didn't assert so need no proof
These were your assertions:



somehow:
With the way you have been talking about eating LOCAL RICE filled with stones, how on earth won't you remember the brand?
somehow:
What if the seller became greedy, added stones to reduce the quantity of rice in stock just to make a profit?
Where's your proof for the second one?


As per brand, did it not register when you buy the opened one from the roadside seller, you dont get the brand name?


Are you implying the local rice is not Nigerian?
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by somehow: 2:18pm On Oct 18, 2019
nairalandposter:
These were your assertions:








Where's your proof for the second one?


As per brand, did it not register when you buy the opened one from the roadside seller, you dont get the brand name?


Are you implying the local rice is not Nigerian?
You have comprehension issue

From the quotes you gathered from me, where did I say it was Nigerian rice before you jumped on the bandwagon to fight for the guy I was questioning?

Did he tell you he bought from road side?

Are you the guy who made the claim?
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by nlPoster:
somehow:
I have comprehension issue
No argument.



From the quotes you gathered from me, where did I say it was Nigerian rice before you jumped on the bandwagon to fight for the guy I was questioning?
I don't know who you were quoting, I responded to your own post. What do you mean "fight for the guy you were questioning"? huh Is it that serious btw?



Did he tell you he bought from road side?
I'll check what he said




Are you the guy who made the claim?
No.

The first person who talked about stony rice was jumped in a similar manner as yours, why are you folks trying to shut people up when they mention stones in rice?
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by MYKELDAYO(m): 4:17am On Oct 19, 2019
tomakint:
The madness in the land is unparallel at least this i can confirm almost every time. What is the point of closing border to a neater, stone-free and better parboiled foreign rice when your have not perfected the art of producing quality rice and in larger volume only for a useless and lying government to just rush and close up the borders in their usual mumu way of saying "we want to encourage local patronage of our local rice production" when our annual consumption rates of over 7 million metric tonnes far supercedes our annual production rates of about 4.7 million metric tonnes. The question is, who still practise "protectionism policy in this modern age"?
oga perfection of rice come with closeness.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by MYKELDAYO(m): 4:21am On Oct 19, 2019
jesmond3945:
nawa for lazy nigerians, what would it take to build a simple destoner bikonu? look at biz opportunity buhari created for una and you are abusing him. God forbid.
. Na GOD go bless you no mind naija people everybody dey find thief money, instead of thinking of a way to solve d problem and get paid. lazy youth indeed
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by oyatz(m): 8:15am On Oct 19, 2019
You are both correct, depending on the timeline being referred to.

My father was already a teenager in the 1930s and he told me that rice was very rare in their time. They only ate rice during Easter, Christmas and New-Year celebrations.

By 1960s, rice had become relatively common but they only ate it on Sundays!

Foreign rice only entered Nigerian market in 1975-76.

tiredoflife:
Lies
Our forefathers didnt eat rice
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by oyatz(m): 8:19am On Oct 19, 2019
Your husband did buy the well packaged branded Nigerian rice.

If you eat Ummza from Kano ,Coscharis from Anambra, Igbemo from Ekiti or Olam from Plateau State, you will fall in love with



















Nigerian Rice!

LadySarah:
My husband bought local rice recently,the quantity of sand and stones no be here.We feared for our lives.this was at the topoo so what will no happen at the bottom gan gan.


We gavr it out immediately.


The Fedgovt should look in to destoning machines before we start suffering another thing.
Re: Border Closure: Nigerians Shun Local Rice, Sellers Lament by carbon1224(m): 8:15pm On Oct 23, 2019
Imagine local Nigeria rice for 22k per bag is that not crazy and how much be minimum wage and when the border Dey open its 12k and you are there deceiving your self pele .

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somehow:
With the way you have been talking about eating LOCAL RICE filled with stones, how on earth won't you remember the brand?

I will supply you any bag of local rice you want.

#22k for 50KG. Depending on your location, you'll have to pay for delivery. So now, put your mouth where your money is. wink

Mama pride
Bull
Naijasweetrice
Name it.
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