Npala:



You use uber for business and we get all these complaints. I wonder when you had to pay for the ride yourself the kind of feedback you did report to uber.

I wonder the kind of person you are. Probably the type that goes to the boss to tell tales on others. To make yourself look good. Hehehe. I pity your co-workers. I pity your neighbours.

ornicus:


keep on making up story shogbo?

keep showing yourself as a dumb fool

you claimed i dont ride uber - i countered you and made a recommendation based on the learning point - anyone using uber on official duty can make a proper legit claim.



are you the kind of person that goes about breaking the law? do you know what a compliance department in any company does? olodo

deedee44:

If your drivers are not doing offline you think you'll be getting paid every week without stories?
You encouraged someone to print cards to win customers for offline trips and you're here going against offline trips. You are

GAZZUZZ:

ornicus carry on I de feel u

Crvrider:


Why not check out google you should be able to come up with a template you can adjust.

peeps4u:

Gbeborun

deedee44:

If your drivers are not doing offline you think you'll be getting paid every week without stories?
You encouraged someone to print cards to win customers for offline trips and you're here going against offline trips. You are

donfortune48:
Dear ornicus,
Everyone here agreed that the driver was wrong for requesting for an offline with you, even those attacking you. But what many are trying to explain to you is that, reporting him to uber seems somehow, quite harsh do to some justifiable reasons in relation to our experience on this job.

Over 70% of uber drivers (even those that supported you) don't like going to festac, satellite town and amuwo odofin for some reasons. rubbery incidents, heavy traffic, bad roads along that way.
you'll likely pass through Babs Animashaun going to festac from gbagada. Which is one of the worst roads in Lagos.

Most people don't negotiate offline just to cheat Uber.
Most times we negotiate offline to justify the risk we're taking for that particular trip. Risks related to possible robbery along that route, or not getting a request back, or passing through bad roads that will possibly damage your car, or getting stuck in an unexpected traffic that will affect your day etc...

I've once negotiated for an offline to amuwo odofin cos there was traffic from Orile to Festac. So I explain to my rider that I will like to follow middle lane to alakija, then go through Festac to amuwo Odofin. We got to the destination rider was so happy seeing the traffic we avoided and added 1k to our agreed fare.

We're not trying to justify Evil. We're only trying to tell you to be flexible in reasoning.
That driver must have had over 5trips on uber before your trip that day, but he didn't negotiate offline with them. So you just need to understand that there might be a reason behind his request for offline which could not be exactly what he told you.

I know you may not accept this explanation cos you don't do Uber and you don't know what we see daily.
I know it will look like convincing Dru23, who sees the job as a blessing, that the job is not easy, when he don't know how to hold a steering....

...but please think otherwise and don't be stiff in reasoning.

northbird:
It depends on how you look @ it.

In Abj, the roads are quite good, especially within d city centre, no bad roads like we HV in Lagos.

Also, no police extortion, no lastma, and limited one ways, you would only have issues with Agbero if you pick their passengers or drop in front of the market or front of their loading parks.

So maintenance on vehicle is quite minimal, but you don't have the kind of population of riders like you have in Lagos.

However, if you have a confirmed Belgium Toyota corrollla, you would make a killing by getting more offline customers that would pay per hour. and those that go interstate.

For instance, sometimes you might get offline trip ( drop-off) to Jos. The going rate is 40-45k. Fuel to n fro for a corolla shd around 6k.

You would go n come back in DT same day. You will have a net of 30k. Uber n taxify can't give you that.

Pls. Don't play with your A.C in Abuja, that is d only edge you have over there. Premium is always placed on cars with A.c by the riders.

The real riders ( I mean the pple who don't consider cost n have d cash ) most tyms always require offline trips.

One more thing: Think about the big picture, if you want a job ensure your CV is always @ hand, also if it's business, you cud register a business enterprise or company as you deem fit.

Cos sometimes you pick riders that might take you off the street.

The influential folks around there "hide in plain sight", or move at odd hours, don't make the mistake of assesing by clothes or shoes, the bling -bling are not d real folks


Good luck.

donfortune48:
Dear ornicus,
Everyone here agreed that the driver was wrong for requesting for an offline with you, even those attacking you. But what many are trying to explain to you is that, reporting him to uber seems somehow, quite harsh do to some justifiable reasons in relation to our experience on this job.

Over 70% of uber drivers (even those that supported you) don't like going to festac, satellite town and amuwo odofin for some reasons. rubbery incidents, heavy traffic, bad roads along that way.
you'll likely pass through Babs Animashaun going to festac from gbagada. Which is one of the worst roads in Lagos.

Most people don't negotiate offline just to cheat Uber.
Most times we negotiate offline to justify the risk we're taking for that particular trip. Risks related to possible robbery along that route, or not getting a request back, or passing through bad roads that will possibly damage your car, or getting stuck in an unexpected traffic that will affect your day etc...

I've once negotiated for an offline to amuwo odofin cos there was traffic from Orile to Festac. So I explain to my rider that I will like to follow middle lane to alakija, then go through Festac to amuwo Odofin. We got to the destination rider was so happy seeing the traffic we avoided and added 1k to our agreed fare.

We're not trying to justify Evil. We're only trying to tell you to be flexible in reasoning.
That driver must have had over 5trips on uber before your trip that day, but he didn't negotiate offline with them. So you just need to understand that there might be a reason behind his request for offline which could not be exactly what he told you.

I know you may not accept this explanation cos you don't do Uber and you don't know what we see daily.
I know it will look like convincing Dru23, who sees the job as a blessing, that the job is not easy, when he don't know how to hold a steering....

...but please think otherwise and don't be stiff in reasoning.

I've once negotiated for an offline to amuwo odofin cos there was traffic from Orile to Festac. So I explain to my rider that I will like to follow middle lane to alakija, then go through Festac to amuwo Odofin. We got to the destination rider was so happy seeing the traffic we avoided and added 1k to our agreed fare.

Everyone here agreed that the driver was wrong for requesting for an offline with you, even those attacking you. But what many are trying to explain to you is that, reporting him to uber seems somehow, quite harsh do to some justifiable reasons in relation to our experience on this job.

GAZZUZZ:

ornicus carry on I de feel u

Crvrider:


Do not ask what your country can do for you. Rather ask what can you do for your country. And by that I mean for your fellow Nigerian brother and sister. Sure we all know Nigeria is a tough terrain to introduce certain practices but that is not to say we can't try.

I think he has just given you another outlet through which you could make your services affordable across board.

Why not first look into it on how you can take advantage of the proposition. If he is a salary earner, I think something can be worked out with his bank through his account officer to have x amount deducted every month over a period of time.

In an environment not so in line with common practices, but to make the common practices work, we the people have to act.

radautoworks:


A simple rule in business is to face your core competency. Many a business has gone under by not following that mantra. What you are suggesting was hard enough in the United States where the rules are clear. 4-7% in losses each year due to financing. Now we are in a society where the rules are not clear and it is not our competency. We would be idiots to go into it. One only need to look how hard it is to find hire-purchase buyers (and that's tangible where the car can be repossessed). How much more when it's an intangible product you cannot repossess?


Does that mean we are not empathetic, no. But we would be better off staying in business to help more people wouldn't we?

ornicus:


i hope your culture shock with the mindset of nigerian workers is not too much?
na the same way some of your guys will tell customers i can do this job for you at a cheaper price in my own workshop
they will also justify by saying you are greedy, stingy, wicked, etc

olaoye15:


Chief.. it seems your are experienced in e hailing business in Abuja..

I need to meet with you as I want to share from your wealth of experience.

I intend moving my 5 months old Toyota corolla for Lagos to Abuja for the e hailing business.

I run a registered construction company but I think I can also put my such venture.. I intend venturing into it in December while I run my business a long side..I am gonna drive it myself.

I don't mind it we can have a drink together somewhere very soon.

Thanks..
How do I connect with you?

radautoworks:


Yup. Same thing happens overseas. Luckily our customers like us and tell us when it happens. We've let 3 techs go for that reason. Pretty sure it happens more than we know though.

As a whole though, I have excellent employees. So much do that people have tried to poach them and ask what Staffing agency I use but I don't I don't use one. I find and train myself and am willing to pay what they are worth.

Haven't been accused of being greedy or stingy yet because the company books are open to all employees and they all know exactly how much the company made each month and receive a profit share in addition to pay. Also, employees are allowed to request a salary review at any point if they can prove why they deserve it.

dru23:


For your information whether offline or online a lot of you drivers will still complain and stories.. The drivers that work for me do not pay a kobo for maintenance. One of them started giving stories ,I had to warn and he knows he will not get a better deal anywhere else ..... I could have had close to 20 cars on my fleet.. But am taking my time to make sure I hire good drivers that are willing to work .. They are out there, but person has to be patient and be calm....
Six months ago I got a driver via NL.. I gave the driver the car in excellent condition, I introduce him to my mechanic.. The first day on the Job the driver bash the car and then drop the car at my mechanic.. The fool than called me and ask when the car will be ready.... The damage was over 40k naira.. I sacked him on the spot without saying anything... And few weeks later he came on NL looking for a car .. I just kept quiet and didn't say anything on the forum....
This ehailing business is like a game ,you have to know what you are doing.. Nobody will come and hold your hands in this world.. Only you and yourself can make a change.. Think outside the box to make changes, and don't over do things.. Even if you are giving out cards for offline job, be discreet about it .. Give good customer service.. And know when to offer your service and know when not to .. If your presentation is good ,it is the riders that will use their own mouth to ask for offline services ..
It is a jungle out here ,everyman for himself

peeps4u:


If you have time and zeal to drive it yourself, the best option.

pope191:
Soh because of Ornicus I was banned for d 1st time since 2006 dat have been using Nairaland for almost a week, they locked me out, cold won finish me... Mandela try o, my respect for him just triple, 27yrs! Tojahh & Izzou no b soh...


To d mod dat ban me, after 13yrs of using Nairaland, I deserve some accolades, not ban, but no wahala, what comes around, goes around... Angel Garbu, Michael & I are d panel of judges on judgement day, just pray ur file no near my table, cos automatically you'll be the one to use your hand to judge yourself and u already know ur score.


*In kabaka's voice* I want to apologise to the honourable mod dat ban me, please don't try it again, if I type or do some things when I'm angry, its a mistake and not intentional, please forgive me, let us enjoy our political Nairaland in peace.

ornicus:


i hope your culture shock with the mindset of nigerian workers is not too much?
na the same way some of your guys will tell customers i can do this job for you at a cheaper price in my own workshop
they will also justify by saying you are greedy, stingy, wicked, etc

A305:
it is adviceable to drive your car yourself to earn the most to be able to care for your car and make a little bit of money even if you do it part time. But you decides to give it to a driver for rental purpose.

The key to recording success is good management. Management in the sense of up to date maintenance of car as well as repairs. Don't be surprised, On remittance of 30k per week(120k per month), you could spend as much as 30k to 40k to keep the car in top shape. Not to mention unplanned repairs, down times due to driver change or accident etc. Don't forget to get insurance too.

Find a good driver, Don't be scared of firing driver when he defaults repeatedly, there are many of them that have been waiting for months to get a car.

radautoworks:


A simple rule in business is to face your core competency. Many a business has gone under by not following that mantra. What you are suggesting was hard enough in the United States where the rules are clear. 4-7% in losses each year due to financing. Now we are in a society where the rules are not clear and it is not our competency. We would be idiots to go into it. One only need to look how hard it is to find hire-purchase buyers (and that's tangible where the car can be repossessed). How much more when it's an intangible product you cannot repossess?


Does that mean we are not empathetic, no. But we would be better off staying in business to help more people wouldn't we?

princpl:



Thanks for the good response...

tojahh:
Izzuo abeg give me that number. Taxifier don block my account.

Crvrider:


Curious. Are your employees Nigerians or foreigners? Quoting those who said Nigerians are unemployable.