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Maximus69:
@bolded!

Well Jehovah's Witnesses do care!

That's why we keep coming to visit you, perhaps we can settle the differences in our beliefs or better still understand how to relate with you,
We can relate as family ~ if we happens to come from the same tribe or family.
We can relate as colleagues ~ if we do the same kind of business/trade.
We can relate as spiritual family ~ if we share the same faith.

We need to relate with our neighbors somehow, that's why we MUST care!

With your segregation and discrimination you want to show me you care.
See HYPOCRISY in capital letters! Taa gbafuo Dia.

TemmyT002:
Na you sabi o
Why you con dey quote me na

Hmmmmmmmmmm,

He doesn't care yet he is here on Nairaland
,reading comments and quoting people.

most people don't what it means TO CARE

That's why i said, WE MUST CARE

potent5:
With your segregation and discrimination you want to show me you care.
See HYPOCRISY in capital letters! Taa gbafuo Dia.

Well if you call it discrimination, try to explain what Jesus meant when he publicly declared that Mary(his mother) and his brothers are not his real family members if they don't share the same faith with him! Matthew 12:46-49

Well Jehovah's Witnesses claims to be followers of this same guy, so i don't understand if he was also discriminating with that statement!

However may God bless you!

OLAADEGBU:
Will you be happy to drink a cup of water that has 1% poison?

Can you refer me to any other church's "cup of water" that has 0% poison?

Deeper life? RCCG? Livingfaith? e.t.c.

OkCornel:
Can you refer me to any other church's "cup of water" that has 0% poison?

Deeper life? RCCG? Livingfaith? e.t.c.

Excellent!

OkCornel:
Can you refer me to any other church's "cup of water" that has 0% poison?

Deeper life? RCCG? Livingfaith? e.t.c.

Perhaps am too close to see the poison, can you please help point them out where you see them, in Deeper Life for instance?

OLAADEGBU:
Perhaps am too close to see the poison, can you please help point them out where you see them, in Deeper Life for instance?

This is my problem with human beings, they find it difficult to see their shortcomings, but can speedily identify that of others...

So we can safely assume Deeper life, RCCG, Livingfaith e.t.c have their entire doctrines totally devoid of poison, but that JW has "1% poison" isn't it?

OkCornel:
This is my problem with human beings, they find it difficult to see their shortcomings, but can speedily identify that of others...

So we can safely assume Deeper life, RCCG, Livingfaith e.t.c have their entire doctrines totally devoid of poison, but that JW has "1% poison" isn't it?

The onus probandi is on you to point out the poison you see in those churches you mentioned. You might as well ask me what poison I can see in your favoured Watchtower magazines.

Bondatt:
You are consuming apostate material.

Walahi talahi, you're the funniest clown ever on this planet!

Well let me educate you a little Sir.

God's organization is progressing in wisdom, so we're not stagnant like other false religions who won't improve in their understanding of applying scriptural principles.

If we're allowed to go and meet people in their homes and an interested persons out there presents what the organization has tagged apostates materials, will you just leave the interested person with the so called apostate materials?

Isn't it much more reasonable to carefully debunk such materials by making use of the Bible?
How are you going to debunk what you've not read/studied with efficacy?

Well, it's obvious you were once with God's people but the door is not shot yet. So you can come back and continue the race to life on the one and only lane that leads to everlasting life!

OLAADEGBU:
The onus probandi is on you to point out the poison you see in those churches you mentioned. You might as well ask me what poison I can see in your favoured Watchtower magazines.

Shall we start on the matter of monetary tithing?

And how a exactly a judaistic requirement to tithe crops and livestock from the promised land on an annual basis is now twisted to fleece non-Jewish christians of 10% of their monetary incomes, under the guise that if they don't do so...they're at the mercy of a certain devourer?

OkCornel:
Shall we start on the matter of monetary tithing?

And how a exactly a judaistic requirement to tithe crops and livestock from the promised land on an annual basis is now twisted to fleece non-Jewish christians of 10% of their monetary incomes, under the guise that if they don't do so...they're at the mercy of a certain devourer?

The doctrines of those churches are pure, it's just extremely difficult for God's holy spirit to unite all their followers as one body! John 17:20-23

Yet there are born again sons of God (those baptised with God's holy spirit) in all those religions!

Many don't know what it means to blasphem against God's holy spirit!

OkCornel:
Shall we start on the matter of monetary tithing?

And how a exactly a judaistic requirement to tithe crops and livestock from the promised land on an annual basis is now twisted to fleece non-Jewish christians of 10% of their monetary incomes, under the guise that if they don't do so...they're at the mercy of a certain devourer?

Christians are at liberty to differ on non essential doctrines as long as they all agree on the essential doctrines such as the deity of Jesus, His dying on a Cross, His burial and bodily resurrection for the salvation of our souls and transition to heaven.

OLAADEGBU:
Christians are at liberty to differ on non essential doctrines as long as they all agree on the essential doctrines such as the deity of Jesus, His dying on a Cross, His burial and bodily resurrection for the salvation of our souls and transition to heaven.

Nice response...

I guess charlatans and false teachers can manipulate "non-essential" doctrines to their taste, and this does not qualify as "1% poison"

Lovely!

I guess this teaching below is quite scriptural!

OLAADEGBU:
Christians are at liberty to differ on non essential doctrines as long as they all agree on the essential doctrines such as the deity of Jesus, His dying on a Cross, His burial and bodily resurrection for the salvation of our souls and transition to heaven.

LIE!

Even members of those churches know that deeper life members won't accept them as real born again Christians no matter what they believe!

Catholics and Synagogue members also adopted your so called essential doctrines but are you at peace with them? NO!
You've posted so many things against their faith which of course they're not ready to change!

So in what way are you at peace with one another?

OkCornel:
Nice response...

I guess charlatans and false teachers can manipulate "non-essential" doctrines to their taste, and this does not qualify as "1% poison"

Lovely!

I guess this teaching below is quite scriptural!

What are the essential doctrines in Christianity, if I may ask?

Maximus69:
LIE!

Even members of those churches know that deeper life members won't accept them as real born again Christians no matter what they believe!

Catholics and Synagogue members also adopted your so called essential doctrines but are you at peace with them? NO!
You've posted so many things against their faith which of course they're not ready to change!

So in what way are you at peace with one another?

Same question goes to you. What are the essential doctrines without which you cannot be said to be Christian?

OLAADEGBU:
What are the essential doctrines in Christianity, if I may ask?

You sir are the one who categorised my query on monetary tithing as a non-essential doctrine. You should be a best position your question.


I’m still baffled how JW has “1% poison” but other denominations like deeper life, RCCG, Livingfaith e.t.c have absolutely no poison at all

OLAADEGBU:
Same question goes to you. What are the essential doctrines without which you cannot be said to be Christian?

Jesus gave me just one thing that's ESSENTIAL!
LOVE my God with all my heart, soul, strength. And LOVE my neighbor as my self! Mark 12:28-31

So if i have a neighbor who is exclusively devoted to some forms of worship, and he is always trying to chat with me to convince me that it's the best way of life.
Then such a person is Christian!
That's what Jesus laid as the foundation!

Don't be deceived, there is no religion on this planet that's efficacious in this two except the one and only Christian group on this planet (Jehovah's Witnesses)!

OkCornel:
You sir are the one who categorised my query on monetary tithing as a non-essential doctrine. You should be a best position your question.


I’m still baffled how JW has “1% poison” but other denominations like deeper life, RCCG, Livingfaith e.t.c have absolutely no poison at all

It appears that you are struggling to see my point. Let me leave you with a quote from my friend Ray Comfort and see whether it will make sense to you. 1% poison in essential doctrines will be the disqualifying factor as depicted in the picture I posted above.

"Over 30,000 denominations of the Christian church and not one can agree with the other!"

Most of those denominations agree on the basic tenants of the Christian faith. Only on non-essential doctrines there is disagreement.

However, it's human nature to disagree about almost everything. I'm sure you would agree with that.

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 1 May 2017 ·

www.livingwaters.com

OLAADEGBU:
It appears that you are struggling to see my point. Let me leave you with a quote from my friend Ray Comfort and see whether it will make sense to you. 1% poison in essential doctrines will be the disqualifying factor as depicted in the picture I posted above.

Please and please, how does this prove deeper life, living faith,RCCG etc aren’t peddling any poison in their “drinks” but that of JW’s Awake and Watchtower publications having “1% poison”?

Or JW is excluded from this illustration you just put up?

Anyways, please refer to my first post on this thread. If you really read it, then this back and forth we’re having here is totally needless

OkCornel:
I don’t agree with some JW doctrines, and I regularly make it known to them. They also tell me it’s normal, as we cannot agree on everything.

However, kudos to the things they’re getting right. Their Awake and Watchtower publications are well researched and informative. I read them from time to time.

OkCornel:
Please and please, how does this prove deeper life, living faith,RCCG etc aren’t peddling any poison in their “drinks” but that of JW’s Awake and Watchtower publications having “1% poison”?

Or JW is excluded from this illustration you just put up?

Study the Christian grid below to see the essential doctrines. Anyone or organisation disagreeing with any of these cannot be said to be Christians in the real sense of it.

OLAADEGBU:
It appears that you are struggling to see my point. Let me leave you with a quote from my friend Ray Comfort and see whether it will make sense to you. 1% poison in essential doctrines will be the disqualifying factor as depicted in the picture I posted above.

You see what i've been saying?

You asked a thought provoking questions that needed to be answered. And your answer is coming
NOT from the scriptural quotes of the prophets!
NOT from what God said!
NOT from Jesus' comments!

But from someone who used her own human ideologies to answer!

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

OLAADEGBU, you're truthfully a fully competent and completely equipped students of God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17

OLAADEGBU:
Study the Christian grid below to see the essential doctrines. Anyone or organisation disagreeing with these cannot be said to be Christians.

Please refer to my first post on this thread. This back and forth is totally needless.

Maximus69:
You see what i've been saying?

You asked a thought provoking questions that needed to be answered. And your answer is coming
NOT from the scriptural quotes of the prophets!
NOT from what God said!
NOT from Jesus' comments!

But from someone who used her own human ideologies to answer!

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

OLAADEGBU, you're truthfully a fully competent and completely equipped students of God's word! 2Timothy 3:16-17

Remember that denial in any of the above doctrines disqualifies you from being a Christian.

OkCornel:
Please refer to my first post on this thread. This back and forth is totally needless.

Are you saying that their Awake/Watchtower magazines that deny the above Christian essential doctrines is OK by you?

OLAADEGBU:
Are you saying that their Awake/Watchtower magazines that deny the above Christian essential doctrines is OK by you?

Did you deliberately close your eyes to the part where I mentioned “I don’t agree with all JW doctrines”

Just as how I don’t agree with the fraudulent monetary tithing doctrines peddled in other churches which you hastily dismissed as “non-essential” doctrines?

Do you really expect me to believe Jesus and Angel Michael are one and the same person as JW teaches Or that the Holy Spirit is just power & energy?


Look, almost every denomination has its doctrinal issues.

What I find baffling is how one fallacy I s suddenly more acceptable and justifiable than the other. Smh

Weed out the tares and go for the wheat. You don’t burn up both together.

Maximus69:
Sorry Sir!

You missed the target.

Try harder!

We'll see about that

E go soon clear for ur eye

Maximus69:
Walahi talahi, you're the funniest clown ever on this planet!

Well let me educate you a little Sir.

God's organization is progressing in wisdom, so we're not stagnant like other false religions who won't improve in their understanding of applying scriptural principles.

If we're allowed to go and meet people in their homes and an interested persons out there presents what the organization has tagged apostates materials, will you just leave the interested person with the so called apostate materials?

Isn't it much more reasonable to carefully debunk such materials by making use of the Bible?
How are you going to debunk what you've not read/studied with efficacy?

Well, it's obvious you were once with God's people but the door is not shot yet. So you can come back and continue the race to life on the one and only lane that leads to everlasting life!

Hypocrite I say again go and seek help from your elders. Well, you soon get a call either way. See a material by the watchtower here...
You are doing exactly what the organization warns against.

Watch your back my brother

Maximus69:
Sorry Sir!

You missed the target.

Try harder!

By the time we are done, not only will your privileges of service be gone, you'd wish you never dared me aswear

Better go and meet your overseers before it's too late.

Does the pic below look familiar?

OLAADEGBU:
Remember that denial in any of the above doctrines disqualifies you from being a Christian.

My friend, denial of anything is none essential!

Peter denied Jesus (the only means of salvation) THREE consecutive times, yet he is the one Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom! Matthew 16:18-19

What matters is the LOVE you have for your God and willingness to help others benefits from God's LOVE. Period! Matthew 22:36-40

All those things they gave you up there could be likened to standards set by some group of religion, of course they'll arrange it in a way that it will fall in their favor!

Any religion can do exactly the same thing.

But the standard set by Jesus and the aftermath is what everyone of us should hold dearly. Because heaven and earth may pass away, but a single comment of Jesus will not go unfulfilled.

So instead of dwelling on what some religious groups agreed as essential, make sure you stand on the foundation Jesus laid down.

Jesus said LOVE is that mark! John 13:34-35

Because Jesus is very well aware that Satan can fabricate which may seem so perfect and it will surely confuse mortal man. 2Corinthians 12:14
One thing Satan can't arrange is how you can LOVE God and your neighbor, because that's the only thing that's gonna make you have everlasting life, and Satan himself can't have it!

Bondatt:
By the time we are done, not only will your privileges of service be gone, you'd wish you never dared me aswear

Better go and meet your overseers before it's too late.

Does the pic below look familiar?

Walahi Talahi, You're the funniest clown ever on this planet!

Well if you're against comments of people on Nairaland, just exit the group.

Continue trying perhaps you'll get it correctly before night falls!

Maximus69:
Walahi Talahi, You're the funniest clown ever on this planet!

Well if you're against comments of people on Nairaland, just exit the group.

Continue trying perhaps you'll get it correctly before night falls!

Thank you for the affirmation. Was all I needed