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imhotep:
What has been seen, cannot be unseen.
Afamed will not like this Sha.

Cc lzaa gmbuharii

IamAtikulate:
Pick any Hausa history book and check the 7 banza states of Hausa, you will be surpriesd to see them include Yoruba.

Some history books record it as Oyo while others as Ilorin.

Whichever one, the abokis see Yoruba as banzad

ihatebuhari:
No wonder they always behave so.

Afonjas are cowards

Annie939:
FFK nawa for you ooo your kinsmen are coming for you

LegendHero:
I have always maintained the fact that FFK is a lunatic that needs public pity rather than banter.

Attached is the original writings of the early 18th century that describes the Yoruba people even before the Dan Fodio Jihad. Most people problem is that they don't research and just regurgitate the nonsense online without reading. Only God knows how the lunatic FFK believed the Fulanis named the Yorubas and he keeps churning out the same rubbish through word of mouth.

When exacltly was the first time the Fulani came in contact with the Yorubas? Did FFK not know the first mosque was already built in Iwo in 1655 even before the Fulanis knew their way to the Oyo kingdom?

MelesZenawi:
Have you always thought about where the word Yoruba originate?? Have you heard many misconception and misapprehension that left you baffled?? That was what got hold of me too so I decided to dig into it.
What is the meaning of Yoruba? Does it have any inclination to our language? This is a thought provoking topic that needs profound reasoning and intense research for better understanding.
It is time we faced the monster that keeps trailing us whom many try to ignore. In Yoruba culture, appellation is often derived from a prerequisite factor or foretelling. For fact telling, some name their child Owolabi hoping the child will bring fortune to the family, another one is that almost all Yoruba towns have their names derived from an event or a factor as illustrated in; Eba-Odan – Ibadan, Abe Okuta Olumo – Abeokuta and Ibi ti Ile ti yo – Oyo and so forth. However, these factors appear not partake in the word Yoruba.
I asked a lot of people to define Yoruba, nobody had a clue so I decided to return to history and I delved into what Yoruba scholars of the past centuries had written. Slowly I began to unravel the mystery of our name.
The first hint I got was from an ordinary search which spouted Yoruba. What does that mean?? I carried on, I moved on to the always ready Yoruba dictionary written by Samuel Ajayi Crowther which defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person.
Another came from the one I found on a scholarly written journal of Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.
Before I go further here, I would like to stress how the name came aboard. It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa.
Perhaps this might have been a result of Yoruba people’s bargaining skills which often made the Fulani traders fall victim of trade by barter. Another one I stumbled on was narrated by another scholar who said the name Yoruba started protruding during the clash between Yoruba and Fulani that steered the lost of Ilorin to them in the 18th century.
The Igbos had cleansed themselves off ‘Yinmiri’, a name the Hausa-Fulani had technically given to them. The igbos have today refuted Yinmiri to be a derogatory word, however, the reverse is the case for the Yoruba. From findings I have made, Yaribansa is a Fulani word meaning Bastard. An extremely derogatory word in Yoruba discourse.
I read one of Professor Ade Ajayi’s book “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” where he insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.
Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers. The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation.
Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.
Furthermore, I have read the Odu Ifa and I have familiarised myself with many Ogede Ofo, Iwure and Ewi of the past generations and I have never heard where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.
I am penning this for us to know the origin of the word Yoruba, it is a bitter pill to swallow especially now that the name has travelled far and wide, should we try to augment our appellation Yoruba? certainly too late to make any sort of modification. We might as well just carry on dealing with it.


Source & Written By: Bola Olalekan


Bye.

africanman85:
Stop lying. Do you want to tell me that yorubas were Moslems b4 the conquest by the Fulanis ?

Iamgrey5:
Yet, Yoruba was used to refer to Oyo people by earlier writers before Oyo fell.

And I thought Yoruba meant betrayal according to FFK

How can those captured as slaves be betrayals again?

ikwedim:
No wonder. I thought as much. Because their way of behavior is something else. Now look at sowere? Even in my office, we all plan something, tunde went to expose us to the GM. So this is how this attitude started?

fergie001:
Nigeria’s former Aviation Minister, Femi Fani-Kayode has said that he is not Yoruba. Fani disclosed this on Twitter while stressing that the word Yoruba is alien to his culture and not known in the Anago language while revealing that the name Yoruba was derived from “Yoruba” and that it means “shady and unreliable”

Fani-Kayode in his words said the “Yoruba” is alien to his culture and not known in the Anago language while revealing that the name Yoruba was derived from “Yoruba” and that it means “shady and unreliable”.





Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/realFFK/status/1186223870308769793

LegendHero:
Yorubas were Muslim before the Fulani even came to the Yoruba kingdom. Your problem is that you guys don’t read and are not students of history.

Even as basic as Wikipedia was, the issue of when the Yoruba became Muslim was succinctly captured on it even without surfing for writings in the Library of Congress.

Can you read this from Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_people

BuhariAdvocate:
Anyway this is second time i will heard yoruba name was coined by hausa people. I will make a findings about this i will not rebuke him yet.

LegendHero:
Yorubas were Muslim before the Fulani even came to the Yoruba kingdom. Your problem is that you guys don’t read and are not students of history.

Even as basic as Wikipedia was, the issue of when the Yoruba became Muslim was succinctly captured on it even without surfing for writings in the Library of Congress.

We already had a mosque as far back as 1550 AD in Oyo Ile even before Dan Fodio could know the road to Oyo.

Can you read this from Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba_people

Kennyswagz1:
he dey fvck igbo toto that's why he dey reason upside down.. same thing as Fayose.. two mad idiots

africanman85:
Because of the part Afonja played and betrayed his people

Iamgrey5:
True

Islam was called Esin Imale meaning Malian religion.

Malians were the first to talk about a Oyo Yoruba people in history.

africanman85:
Stop lying abeg.

africanman85:
Stop lying. Do you want to tell me that yorubas were Moslems b4 the conquest by the Fulanis ?

Dareal90s:
You don't knw ur history how would u accept d truth abt other ppls own. Egyptian slaves calling themselves Israeli

africanman85:
Stop lying abeg. We know that Wikipedia can be modified based on information submitted online but the truth is known .

MelesZenawi:
Have you always thought about where the word Yoruba originate?? Have you heard many misconception and misapprehension that left you baffled?? That was what got hold of me too so I decided to dig into it.
What is the meaning of Yoruba? Does it have any inclination to our language? This is a thought provoking topic that needs profound reasoning and intense research for better understanding.
It is time we faced the monster that keeps trailing us whom many try to ignore. In Yoruba culture, appellation is often derived from a prerequisite factor or foretelling. For fact telling, some name their child Owolabi hoping the child will bring fortune to the family, another one is that almost all Yoruba towns have their names derived from an event or a factor as illustrated in; Eba-Odan – Ibadan, Abe Okuta Olumo – Abeokuta and Ibi ti Ile ti yo – Oyo and so forth. However, these factors appear not partake in the word Yoruba.
I asked a lot of people to define Yoruba, nobody had a clue so I decided to return to history and I delved into what Yoruba scholars of the past centuries had written. Slowly I began to unravel the mystery of our name.
The first hint I got was from an ordinary search which spouted Yoruba. What does that mean?? I carried on, I moved on to the always ready Yoruba dictionary written by Samuel Ajayi Crowther which defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person.
Another came from the one I found on a scholarly written journal of Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.
Before I go further here, I would like to stress how the name came aboard. It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa.
Perhaps this might have been a result of Yoruba people’s bargaining skills which often made the Fulani traders fall victim of trade by barter. Another one I stumbled on was narrated by another scholar who said the name Yoruba started protruding during the clash between Yoruba and Fulani that steered the lost of Ilorin to them in the 18th century.
The Igbos had cleansed themselves off ‘Yinmiri’, a name the Hausa-Fulani had technically given to them. The igbos have today refuted Yinmiri to be a derogatory word, however, the reverse is the case for the Yoruba. From findings I have made, Yaribansa is a Fulani word meaning Bastard. An extremely derogatory word in Yoruba discourse.
I read one of Professor Ade Ajayi’s book “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” where he insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.
Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers. The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation.
Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.
Furthermore, I have read the Odu Ifa and I have familiarised myself with many Ogede Ofo, Iwure and Ewi of the past generations and I have never heard where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.
I am penning this for us to know the origin of the word Yoruba, it is a bitter pill to swallow especially now that the name has travelled far and wide, should we try to augment our appellation Yoruba? certainly too late to make any sort of modification. We might as well just carry on dealing with it.


Source & Written By: Bola Olalekan


Bye.

africanman85:
we all know the truth. Good enough, the information you are battling is direct from the horses mouth.

LegendHero:
Is this one okay at all? I initially posted a print of the early 18th century from the library of Congress to back up my claims.

If you read my former reply, I made mention of Wikipedia as a basic source and yet it still made mention of the source of the Yorubas and how Islam first penetrated the Oyo-Ile.

There are painting, historical prints well documented in the Libraries in USA that can give you better view about the history of both the Yorubas and other Nigerian tribes.

You think I’m in your league when discussing about history? Like Africanman85 like FFK!

MetaPhysical:
Yoruba was not founded by Hausa.

In a multicultural society when you marry or cohabit with a culture different than yours you will soon loose conservatism and patriotism formerly exclusive to your own ethnicity and become a liberal....or jack of all trade.

The effect of cohabiting with Ibo wife has had its effect on FFKs sense of patriotism to Yoruba. He tries to shed himself of his Yorubaness so he can have acceptance and approval of his Ibo society. Its a structure he must promote so that his children will not become ostracised and have no base in either.

I can give the root of where the word Yoruba originated and how it is popularized. The Northerners did not coin it. They only repeated what was already in circulation.

Take for instance Nigeria. Its root is Niger. Niger was already a word in circulation before Mrs Lugard who added "ia" to anglocize and differentiate it from the French Niger.

Yoruba had been in existence long before Hausa became a nation. The creators of Hausa States were migrants from Kukawa (old capital of Borno). There was nothing called Hausa before they migrated Westward. In Kukawa they were know as Habe...or Kabe. But in Kukawa Yoruba was already a known State. So Hausa took knowledge of Yoruba in Kukawa with them when they formed their new States.
Its a long pearl of history not deserved to be told here because we are sorrounded by pigs....they will soak it in mud and grunt over it.

Check my profile. There is reason I use that picture. Proud Yorubaman here with deep sense of history and facts!

Niccoloimhotep:
baba nla, you too dey here so. How's work oga mi sir

Pigsandidiots:
That why they called you yamiri

MelesZenawi:
Have you always thought about where the word Yoruba originate?? Have you heard many misconception and misapprehension that left you baffled?? That was what got hold of me too so I decided to dig into it.
What is the meaning of Yoruba? Does it have any inclination to our language? This is a thought provoking topic that needs profound reasoning and intense research for better understanding.
It is time we faced the monster that keeps trailing us whom many try to ignore. In Yoruba culture, appellation is often derived from a prerequisite factor or foretelling. For fact telling, some name their child Owolabi hoping the child will bring fortune to the family, another one is that almost all Yoruba towns have their names derived from an event or a factor as illustrated in; Eba-Odan – Ibadan, Abe Okuta Olumo – Abeokuta and Ibi ti Ile ti yo – Oyo and so forth. However, these factors appear not partake in the word Yoruba.
I asked a lot of people to define Yoruba, nobody had a clue so I decided to return to history and I delved into what Yoruba scholars of the past centuries had written. Slowly I began to unravel the mystery of our name.
The first hint I got was from an ordinary search which spouted Yoruba. What does that mean?? I carried on, I moved on to the always ready Yoruba dictionary written by Samuel Ajayi Crowther which defines ‘Yoruba’ as a bastard and deceitful person.
Another came from the one I found on a scholarly written journal of Dr Taiwo Ayanbolu who insisted Yoruba is a name derived from Hausa language which means deceit. He claimed he found the definition at York Museum in England dating to the 19th century.
Before I go further here, I would like to stress how the name came aboard. It has been recorded that the Hausa-Fulani who had been in contact with the Yoruba even before the rise of Oyo Empire had for some reasons chosen to call us Yoruba, or Yaribansa.
Perhaps this might have been a result of Yoruba people’s bargaining skills which often made the Fulani traders fall victim of trade by barter. Another one I stumbled on was narrated by another scholar who said the name Yoruba started protruding during the clash between Yoruba and Fulani that steered the lost of Ilorin to them in the 18th century.
The Igbos had cleansed themselves off ‘Yinmiri’, a name the Hausa-Fulani had technically given to them. The igbos have today refuted Yinmiri to be a derogatory word, however, the reverse is the case for the Yoruba. From findings I have made, Yaribansa is a Fulani word meaning Bastard. An extremely derogatory word in Yoruba discourse.
I read one of Professor Ade Ajayi’s book “Yoruba Warfare in the Nineteenth century” where he insisted that during the indirect rule era, it was necessary for the imperialists to give a unique name to the entire towns and people who spoke Yoruba language.
Somehow, they settled for Yoruba. Yoruba is a deviation of Yoruba which the Yoruba people of that century rejected. The Ijebu, Ijesa and Egba rejected this name vehemently but because during the Kiriji war (the Yoruba civil war) where the collapse of Oyo Empire commenced and the signalling factor the imperialists used to prompt the rule over Oyo from covers. The name Yoruba was foisted on Oyo and Ibadan mainly on documents and slowly the name Yoruba was enshrined in our culture and hence, our appellation.
Research shows that the Egba were the last to accept Yoruba as their appellation, reason coming from facts emanating from the first newspaper published in Yorubaland in 1859, goes: Iwe Iroyin Fun Ara Egba Ati Yoruba. This indicates that the Egba refused the name Yoruba as at 1859.
Furthermore, I have read the Odu Ifa and I have familiarised myself with many Ogede Ofo, Iwure and Ewi of the past generations and I have never heard where we were referred to as Yoruba, rather, as Omo Kaaro Ojiire, Omo Oduduwa or Omoluabi.
I am penning this for us to know the origin of the word Yoruba, it is a bitter pill to swallow especially now that the name has travelled far and wide, should we try to augment our appellation Yoruba? certainly too late to make any sort of modification. We might as well just carry on dealing with it.


Source & Written By: Bola Olalekan


Bye.