shadeyinka:

Perfectly said!
And the consequences of misbehaving may not be pleasant. It's not just about making heaven but having a good eternal RANK after.

Shalom

Praivit0:



Wow. That means the demon spirits who believe in Christ will also cross over to God's side when Christ comes.

James 2:19- Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
This is why we have a lot of homosexuals in the church of God today, cos they claim to believe

Praivit0:
John 17:12- While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

Judas was called the son of perdition by Christ because he chose the ways of the devil instead of the ways of Christ.

Remember he was an apostle, meaning he was saved also, he even performed miracles, he even saw Jesus and ate with him, yet he lost his place in the kingdom.


If Judas could loose his place in the kingdom, then who do you think you are that God will pamper you with your sinful life.

1StopRudeness:


How does an atheist “thank God” for being an atheist.... what kind of stupid and confused atheist are you

1StopRudeness:


How does an atheist “thank God” for being an atheist.... what kind of stupid and confused atheist are you

Magnoliaa:
alBHAGDADI, what about Hebrews 10:26-27 and 6:4-6?

And is it possible for one who've committed the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit (what does this mean exactly?) as an unbeliever (e.g an atheist, in ignorance) to turn back and discover Christ?

Can a Christian (a saved one) commit such?

Harshirama:
Maybe if you read the Bible more carefully, you'll see the many places eternal salvation was mentioned.

“I tell you the solemn truth, the one who hears my message and believes the one who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned, but has crossed over from death to life.
John 5:24
Note how he said "has crossed over" not "will cross over"
Now for christians who walk in sin, they'll be judged in the flesh but their spirit will be saved. The only sin that'll lead to eternal destruction is the sin of unbelief in the finished works of Christ.

The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God.
John 3:18

Harshirama:


Lol, Judas wasn't born again, none of the apostles were till after Jesus died

chigbo25:


I think you are the one to calm down and learn. U are the one with pride if u check well. Pride that u are forever saved and have nothing to contribute to ur salvation.

1StopRudeness:


How does an atheist “thank God” for being an atheist.... what kind of stupid a ;Dnd confused atheist are you

alBHAGDADI:


What you typed up there is the good news which Satan and his agents are trying to blind people from coming across

alBHAGDADI:


Where in the Bible does it say saved people who continue in sin will go to hell fire? Nowhere is such found in the Bible. Saved people who sin are only punished here on Earth by God their father. God scourges as chastens his children who sin to keep them obeying him.

Hebrews 12:6-11 (KJV)
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

The Bible also states that our earthly fathers correct us when we do wrong. How many earthly fathers have you seen feed their son to a lion? None. Yet you think God will send his own children who carry his spirit to hell fire?

Hebrews 12:9
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

You are here expecting man to be without sin. If it were possible for man to be sinless, there won't have been any need for Jesus to come. During his days, he said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone". No one could cast a stone because they were all sinners. Yet you believe a man exists today, in this corrupt and immoral world, that is without sin.


1 John 1:8 (KJV)
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


You have made God a liar by saying man has to be without sin before he can make heaven. You made God a list who said we are all sinners and there is none righteous, no not one.

1 John 1:10
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Well, you are a liar, that's why you believe one has to be sinless to make heaven. Whereas, the word of God says we are all sinners.


Romans 3:23-26 (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

As seen above, we are all sinners. The only ones justified in the sight of God Almighty are the ones who have been justified through their believe in Jesus, not the works of righteousness.

We will always sin as long as we exist in this flesh because the spirit and flesh are at battle. Guess what? The sins don't send us to hell. Why? Because Jesus Christ is our advocate who ensures we don't come into condemnation.


1 John 2:1 (KJV)
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:


The Bible also advised us to not grieve the Holy Spirit which is what happens when we sin. However, that same Holy Spirit has SEALED us for all eternity and just waiting to redeem what he has sealed.

Ephesians 4:30
“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

The reason we are afraid of sinning is because we fear God and don't want him to visit us with the curses in Deutoronomy 28 which he places on those who disobey his commandments. As for sin sending us to hell fire, that's a lie.

I've gone against you with the word of God. All you've done is spew your own understanding. What has Satan promised you that is making you so eager to hinder people from getting saved?

ireneidiva:

When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
John 8:10 KJV
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
John 8:11 KJV.
If it were not possible to abstain from sin, would Jesus have told her to go and sin no more?

Harshirama:


Because if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and thus has righteousness and with the mouth one confesses and thus has salvation.
Romans 10:9-10

God made salvation so easy, yet people still don't want to believe because it seems too easy to be true

alBHAGDADI:


If it were possible for mankind to abstain totally from sin, would they have been any need for Jesus to come?

content208:


If it were not easy to stop sinning, would Jesus have told the woman to go and sin no more? You seek a brand of Christianity different from what Jesus preached right? So that you can always continue to commit sin without any consequences? You want to be eating your cake and having it? No matter how much lies and deceptions you have been fed with, the soul that sinneth it shall die.

alBHAGDADI:


If it were possible for mankind to abstain totally from sin, would they have been any need for Jesus to come?

alBHAGDADI:


Those children of Israel believed God but were always going back to their sins. That's why God use to punish them e.g kill them, send them into captivity etc. But where is it recorded that God sent them to hell fire?


Nowhere.

alBHAGDADI:


Were you expecting Jesus to tell her to go and continue sinning?

What is not written in the verse is Jesus saying go and sin no more "or else you will end up in hell". You are the one insinuating such.

Moreover, didn't you see on the OP where I quoted the word of God who listed punishment for those who disobey his commandments. We see those things and they make us tremble before God, which is why we avoid sin despite knowing heaven is sure for us. Now, where in the list in Deutoronomy 28 does it include hell fire as part of the punishment for the children of God who sin?

one4christ:


Mr, I hope youve read your bible to where it says that "the soul that sinneth it shall die"

ireneidiva:

Answer my own question first? Why did he ask her to go and sin no more?

alBHAGDADI:


Just shut up and stop repeating point already trashed points.

You first and second lines, can you show us scriptures to back them up? No you can't. All you are doing is coughing out your own ideas.

Go and sleep.

alBHAGDADI:


Where in the Bible does it say saved people who continue in sin will go to hell fire? Nowhere is such found in the Bible. Saved people who sin are only punished here on Earth by God their father. God scourges as chastens his children who sin to keep them obeying him.

Hebrews 12:6-11 (KJV)
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

The Bible also states that our earthly fathers correct us when we do wrong. How many earthly fathers have you seen feed their son to a lion? None. Yet you think God will send his own children who carry his spirit to hell fire?

Hebrews 12:9
Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

You are here expecting man to be without sin. If it were possible for man to be sinless, there won't have been any need for Jesus to come. During his days, he said "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone". No one could cast a stone because they were all sinners. Yet you believe a man exists today, in this corrupt and immoral world, that is without sin.


1 John 1:8 (KJV)
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.


You have made God a liar by saying man has to be without sin before he can make heaven. You made God a list who said we are all sinners and there is none righteous, no not one.

1 John 1:10
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.


Well, you are a liar, that's why you believe one has to be sinless to make heaven. Whereas, the word of God says we are all sinners.


Romans 3:23-26 (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

As seen above, we are all sinners. The only ones justified in the sight of God Almighty are the ones who have been justified through their believe in Jesus, not the works of righteousness.

We will always sin as long as we exist in this flesh because the spirit and flesh are at battle. Guess what? The sins don't send us to hell. Why? Because Jesus Christ is our advocate who ensures we don't come into condemnation.


1 John 2:1 (KJV)
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:


The Bible also advised us to not grieve the Holy Spirit which is what happens when we sin. However, that same Holy Spirit has SEALED us for all eternity and just waiting to redeem what he has sealed.

Ephesians 4:30
“And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.”

The reason we are afraid of sinning is because we fear God and don't want him to visit us with the curses in Deutoronomy 28 which he places on those who disobey his commandments. As for sin sending us to hell fire, that's a lie.

I've gone against you with the word of God. All you've done is spew your own understanding. What has Satan promised you that is making you so eager to hinder people from getting saved?

justt:


Is this another gospel or the same gospel of the Lord Jesus? I guess people should be very careful of your message!

Of what use is salvation and invariably, the death of Christ if we continue willfully in sins because no matter what we will make heaven?

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it? Rom 6:1&2

And what moral justification will God have to condemn sinners when even the so called 'saints' are sinners? Jesus himself told the Jew who believed in him that they must abide in his word. Not just believing alone. John 8:31: Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed Him, "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed.

Obviously, part of abiding in him is obedience to his word. I guess your error is the your inability to differentiate between slipping and choosing willfully to remain in sin. The Bible totally condemns willful sin.

And what do you say to the messages in Hebrew concerning willful sins?

Heb 6:4-6: For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put [Him] to an open shame. 

Heb 10:26-31: For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,

 27  but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.

 28  Anyone who has rejected Moses' law dies without mercy on [the testimony of] two or three witnesses. 

 29  Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing, and insulted the Spirit of grace? 

 30  For we know Him who said, [ "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay,"] says the Lord. And again, [ "The LORD will judge His people."] 

 31  It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. 

Heb 12:14 specifically says, without holiness no one will see the Lord.

Are you lowering this standard?

Do not be deceived, no sinner in whatever guise has eternal life.

Eph 5:3-6
But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints;

 4  neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks.

 5  For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God.

 6  Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.

Please repent of this view of yours which has no basis in the Holy Bible and stop leading ignorant people to hell!

Shalom

alBHAGDADI:

Was he supposed to tell her to go and continue sinning?

alBHAGDADI:

hisgrace090:




Is that Matthew 13 His own idea?