PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

LabDNA:


Stop sugarcoating issues to feel alright?
Did APC lose in Edo or not?
I expected APC to win resoundingly in Edo since the national chairman of APC is from there but Oshiomhole lost there can you tell us why?

Yet you want us to believe APC will win Bayelsa during next presidential even with lesser influence than what Oshio has in Edo?
I won't be surprised Lyon himself will vote for PDP if APC fields a SWner in 2023.

Facts remains that at the presidentials level, SESS bloc remains intact. At the state level the dynamics may change due to personalities, Godfatherism and in other interests.

Nowenuse:


Bad news for you. Bayelsa state has the lowest and the most insignificant votes in the SS.
Rivers, Delta & Ak Ibom have 70-75% of the voters in the SS.

Just for the records, there was massive rigging in favour of APC in the 2019 presidential elections even in states that were controlled by PDP governors.

LegendHero:


Tell me one election that there is no massive rigging since 2003.

Check the voter turnout and result of the PDP in RIvers in 2015 and compare it with the 2019 RIvers voter turnout and result.

The PDP wrote results for themselves in 2015 in Rivers such that the devil himself will be confused as to how RIvers delivered that much vote.

Note: Both PDP and APC rig election, the highest rigger is the successful one!

Nowenuse:


2015 elections was one of the freest and fairest elections Nigeria ever had.

I wonder why many ignorant people always question the population of votes that come out from Rivers state.

Rivers state is the most populated state in the SE/SS. After Lagos & Kano, Port harcourt should be the most populated city in Nigeria and the city keeps on expanding and expanding in different directions that it may even merge with Aba in years to come.
Another things is that Rivers people naturally take elections very seriously compared to other SE/SS people. This is why they always have the highest registered voters and people who collect their PVCs in the region.

LegendHero:


Why will anybody say election in Rivers is free and fair? RIvers that is always in a bloodbath even for governorship election is who you are putting in the same sentence with free election. Do you even know the antecedent of Rivers?

2015 election was rigged in Rivers, forget about the usual free and fair phrase, results are written in Rivers in that election

Now back to our discussion, check the difference in Rivers figure between 2015 and 2019, and tell me how you can tell me any Nigerian state voters number is not rigged. This is exactky the same rigging template Yahaya Bello Employed in Kogi (Rig the numbers).

Rivers presidential result in 2015:
PDP:1,487,075
APC: 69,238

Rivers presidential result in 2019:
PDP: 473,971
APC: 150,710

Can you please tell me what changed?

raumdeuter:


1.4M gap in 2015
320K gap in 2019

Over 1M margin shaved in Rivers alone

plaindealer:




The SS/SW thing is your own made up story, the real and groundbreaking implication per what transpired in Bayelsa and the evolving political realities in the SS is the total isolation and relegation of the SE, it means there's less need for votes scavenging in the SE.

Pay more attention to the sad political and precarious realities in the SE and stop wailing over SS/SW alliance and regardless how you cut and dice your SW/SS lamentations, the SW is majorly APC and the APC making inroads in the SS is naturally the SW directly and indirectly part of the SS/APC alliance in the SS.

Where you in the SE stand in the grand scheme of things in Nigeria should be your own primary concern.

Ojiofor:


What did we benefit from APC when Imo state was an APC state for 8 years?

LegendHero:


God will bless you. Can you see that mad changes in the number just because federal might was able to mitigate against the usual exuberant figure that PDP always write in Rivers State.

Amaechi and his goons really tried for Buhari, they were able to make sure the numbers are down. That is what is called mad strategy and those online political illiterates always believed winning a state alone is what can be termed a success. The real success is reducing the votes in opposition strongholds and making sure a large vote is delivered in your strongholds.

That is the template APC used in 2019, Yahaya Bello used in also in Kogi election. Obasanjo used the same template in 2003, check the result he got in the south and you will shake your head coz devil himself dey fear OBJ.

raumdeuter:


2015
Akwa Ibom
APC 58,411 PDP 953,304 Margin Almost 900K

2019
Akwa Ibom
APC 175,429 PDP 395,832 Margin 220K

A margin of 700k votes shaved from 2015 to 2019


2015
Delta

APC 48,910 PDP 1,211,405 Margin of 1.1M

2019
Delta
APC 221,292 594,068 Margin of 370K

Another 700K margin shaved off

PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

LegendHero:


Wow, can you see that this SE guys don't understand politics and how it works?

Even if APC fields a dog in 2023 with this template intact, they will win any presidential election in Nigeria. SO they had better start planning for Tinubu or Osinbajo never to have the AP ticket coz if they do, then they will be sworn presodent in 2023.

Even a failure like Yahaya Bello was supported by APC goons, let alone a national presidential election with an Osinbajo.

raumdeuter:


In 2019 APC defeated PDP with less than 4M votes. In the SS alone 2.5M votes margin was lost to APC in the last 4yrs. Imagine another 4yrs

LegendHero:


Even as someone without knowlege of SE political terrain, I can still tell you Okorocha performed in his first 4 years as governor of Imo before he started losing focus in his second term.
What has Abia people benefit from PDP since Abia State was under the mantle of PDP? Why did Abians vote Ikpeazu a failed governor with majority votes in 2019?[/b]

Ojiofor:


What did we benefit from APC when Imo state was an APC state for 8 years?

Ojiofor:


Ok,he started losing focus after he joined APC you mean? because 90% of his projects was done while he was still in APGA.
Concerning Abia state,You and I knows that votes does not count rather INEC declares the highest bidder as the winner of an election.Ikpeazu never win any election in Abia state.

LegendHero:


Okorocha joined APC in 2013 bro, so what exactly are you talking about. So you meant he only performed just 2 years in his 8 year tenure? why then was he voted for the second term in 2015 if he had not performed looking at the APC hate Tsunami that swept the SE in 2015.

And No, The Abia voters voted for Ikpeazu, please stop talking about rigging. Most Igbos on here already said Ikpeazu was returned due to zoning within the state. Most of your online goons used that to back their argument.

Even if a dog contested as a PDP candidate in 2019, the Igbos would have voted him.

Ojiofor:


Abia voters never voted for Ikpeazu in 2015 but you can believe what you like if that will make you sleep fine this night.

LegendHero:


Okorocha joined APC in 2013 bro, so what exactly are you talking about. So you meant he only performed just 2 years in his 8 year tenure? why then was he voted for the second term in 2015 if he had not performed looking at the APC hate Tsunami that swept the SE in 2015.

And No, The Abia voters voted for Ikpeazu, please stop talking about rigging. Most Igbos on here already said Ikpeazu was returned due to zoning within the state. Most of your online goons used that to back their argument.

Even if a dog contested as a PDP candidate in 2019, the Igbos would have voted him.

0monnak0da:
Was there APC in 2013

LegendHero:


Yes, Abians voted for APC and I can see that in the election result.

Gracias!

PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

LabDNA:


Stop sugarcoating issues to feel alright?
Did APC lose in Edo or not?
I expected APC to win resoundingly in Edo since the national chairman of APC is from there but Oshiomhole lost there can you tell us why?

Yet you want us to believe APC will win Bayelsa during next presidential even with lesser influence than what Oshio has in Edo?
I won't be surprised Lyon himself will vote for PDP if APC fields a SWner in 2023.

Facts remains that at the presidential level, SESS bloc remains intact. At the state level the dynamics may change due to personalities, Godfatherism and in other interests.

PaChukwudi44:
Does the results of this election show in any way that the people of the SS especially the Ijaws will turn out and vote for Tinubu or Osibanjo in 2023 (Assuming if at all anyone of them gets the APC ticket)

LegendHero:


Why will anybody say election in Rivers is free and fair? RIvers that is always in a bloodbath even for governorship election is who you are putting in the same sentence with free election. Do you even know the antecedent of Rivers?

2015 election was rigged in Rivers, forget about the usual free and fair phrase, results are written in Rivers in that election

Now back to our discussion, check the difference in Rivers figure between 2015 and 2019, and tell me how you can tell me any Nigerian state voters number is not rigged. This is exactky the same rigging template Yahaya Bello Employed in Kogi (Rig the numbers).

Rivers presidential result in 2015:
PDP:1,487,075
APC: 69,238

Rivers presidential result in 2019:
PDP: 473,971
APC: 150,710

Can you please tell me what changed?

Nowenuse:


Show me the registered voters in Rivers for both elections.
2019 was clearly rigged in favor of APC. Cos this also happened in Delta too since we can assume that elections in Rivers is different.

What about Delta & Akwa Ibom? Why were they different too?

PaChukwudi44:
I still cant fathom how exactly the victory of APC's candidate David Lyon in the hust concluded Bayelsa Governorship election translate into a political alliance between the SS/SW.
I have seen supposed SW monikers jubilating and mocking the igbos claiming that the SS has moved on and has now decided to go into a political alliance with them on account of this just concluded election.Maybe someone should educate me if I am missing something.Was a political meeting convened between the two regions that I am unaware of? How exactly did this monikers arrive by this conclusion.

PassingShot:

Let me educate you why it seems so:

1. Bayelsa state is a core SS state in the league of Rivers and Delta states. A state like other core SS states where APC had no foothold in as recently as 2018 - not until 2019 when we started seeing some presence of APC there.
3. Bayelsa state is the home state of the last president produced by PDP. The state and the region have been hostile to APC as a result of GEJ's/PDP's loss of the presidency.

3. That GEJ abandoned PDP in Bayelsa state and showed support (or being indifferent of the contest, at least) is an indication that he has moved on despite his loss and what his wife is going through with EFCC.

4. Winning Bayelsa state gives a lot of confidence and hope to APC for other states in the region and for 2023 general elections. Such victory will surely boost their performance in that state and in the SS region entirely.

5. Surely, if GEJ/PEJ could support APC which sent them packing from Aso Rock, it means the entire Niger Delta which is their primary constituency can move on and be less hostile to APC or even embrace the party more.

6. With what played out in Bayelsa, APC's headache of worrying about SE has been reduced greatly. It's now much more easier for APC to ignore SE and their emotional blackmail and focuse more on the SS with appointments and inclusiveness. That way, SE becomes less relevant in the scheme of things since APC will now have strong footings in NW, NE, NC, SW and SS. Surely, that's a huge competitive advantage over PDP which can only boast of strength in SE and SS (now diminished) with not-so huge following in other four regions.

There are more implications but these ones should educate you already.

raumdeuter:


In 2019 APC defeated PDP with less than 4M votes. In the SS alone 2.5M votes margin was lost to APC in the last 4yrs. Imagine another 4yrs