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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by richforever123: 7:36pm On Nov 21, 2019
TotoNaRubber:
Have you heard about the saying "put your money where your mouth is".

There are complications with financial investments, if you don't live in or are not from the country where you intend to invest, don't do it.

The stress you will go through when there is a problem will threaten the return of capital.

Invest in Nigeria where you can attend to any complications within 24 hours.


Thanks for this relevant information

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 7:43pm On Nov 21, 2019
TotoNaRubber:
Have you heard about the saying "put your money where your mouth is".

There are complications with financial investments, if you don't live in or are not from the country where you intend to invest, don't do it.

The stress you will go through when there is a problem will threaten the return of capital.

Invest in Nigeria where you can attend to any complications within 24 hours.

But foreign investors do invest in Nigeria nau. As long as you open a bank account successfully there, you are good to go for tbills. No bank will seize your money. It doesn't happen.

I know someone who has been in Ghana for about five years now running business and investing in Ghana tbills with no issues.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Adiwana: 7:50pm On Nov 21, 2019
OgogoroFreak:
foreign investors do invest in Nigeria nau. As long as you open a bank account successfully there, you are good to go.

I know someone who has been in Ghana for about five years now running business and investing in Ghana tbills with no issues.

Their govt only needs to make it easier to invest and manage Tbills from our banks here in Nigeria then we are good to go.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 7:55pm On Nov 21, 2019
Adiwana:


Their govt only needs to make it easier to invest and manage Tbills from our banks here in Nigeria then we are good to go.
Well, I don't know any country that has done that.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NicoKator: 8:16pm On Nov 21, 2019
richforever123:


I really appreciate your kind response, for mutual funds is it a possibility that I can withdraw the proceeds monthly?
I really appreciate your feedback, thanks so much
I don't know for other Fund managers but with STANBICMUTUAL funds it's possible, when I was in school, I filled a form nd instructed them not to re-invest the accrued interest but to pay to my bank account( the account i submitted was Diamondbank) the accumulated interest at the end of every month, they were doing it this way until I instructed them to re-invest the accrued interest.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by alezzy13: 8:20pm On Nov 21, 2019
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Adiwana: 8:41pm On Nov 21, 2019
zamirikpo:
All this talk about bonds in not sweeting me at all.

Am in love with that upfront interest on TB, nothing beats that.

My anger is not even the 8-10% on TB it's the prorating.

As a business man I need to be liquid.....cant afford to lock down huge capital for 3-5 yrs(20m &above). When anything can come up.

Watching the market daily....TB it is


Bonds are for those that already have businesses,have a long term project or things of that nature that need guaranteed money,those interested in growing their money or in most cases money for their kids in case of death. Collecting 6m+ a yr on a bond of 50m at 16% for 10-15 consecutive yrs doesn't sound bad at all.That's a guaranteed 60m+. Its just a scheme made for the already rich

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by careerwoman(f): 9:42pm On Nov 21, 2019
Please I don’t understand First Bank
Applied two weeks ago for primary market Tbill. The bid was unsuccessful and they refunded my money into my account.
I’ve already decided to go into forex with a part of the money and needed the other part for some things since I got cash strapped this week.
Now, I just checked my account balance and they’ve deducted the amount again against auction next week.
This is wrong, I didn’t give any additional directive to them to redo the Tbills request.
Please has anyone experienced this? How can I revert it?
Like, my acct balance is almost zero.. embarassed
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TotoNaRubber: 9:51pm On Nov 21, 2019
That 16 percent is just a myth, no one actually gets that in recent times, financial institutions are rogues.

Remember what they say about the middle man.

Adiwana:


Bonds are for those that already have businesses,have a long term project or things of that nature that need guaranteed money,those interested in growing their money or in most cases money for their kids in case of death. Collecting 6m+ a yr on a bond of 50m at 16% for 10-15 consecutive yrs doesn't sound bad at all.That's a guaranteed 60m+. Its just a scheme made for the already rich

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Bbbwings: 9:55pm On Nov 21, 2019
richforever123:


I really appreciate your kind response, for mutual funds is it a possibility that I can withdraw the proceeds monthly?
I really appreciate your feedback, thanks so much
NicoKator:
I don't know for other Fund managers but with STANBICMUTUAL funds it's possible, when I was in school, I filled a form nd instructed them not to re-invest the accrued interest but to pay to my bank account( the account i submitted was Diamondbank) the accumulated interest at the end of every month, they were doing it this way until I instructed them to re-invest the accrued interest.

ecobank pays interest quarterly.
you've to specifically ask for it to be paid to you directly
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TotoNaRubber: 9:55pm On Nov 21, 2019
Go to the bank with 5 litres of fuel, demand they bring out the manager or you set the building on fire "na joke o" BUT

GO to the bank and demand they release the funds back to you as you do not accept to buy the bills at the next auction. I think it is normal with First bank to debit you using your old request. It is bad practice as they make free money off you while holding your funds.

careerwoman:
Please I don’t understand First Bank
Applied two weeks ago for primary market Tbill. The bid was unsuccessful and they refunded my money into my account.
I’ve already decided to go into forex with a part of the money and needed the other part for some things since I got cash strapped this week.
Now, I just checked my account balance and they’ve deducted the amount again against auction next week.
This is wrong, I didn’t give any additional directive to them to redo the Tbills request.
Please has anyone experienced this? How can I revert it?
Like, my acct balance is almost zero.. embarassed

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 10:00pm On Nov 21, 2019
As I think say I know book reach, I have been trying to fully grasp this bond thing yet it's seems a little confusing and not straight forward.
TotoNaRubber:
That 16 percent is just a myth, no one actually gets that in recent times, financial institutions are rogues.

Remember what they say about the middle man.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by needful: 10:10pm On Nov 21, 2019
Ukah, pls come and analyze this for me abeg. Totally confusing biko.

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by careerwoman(f): 10:14pm On Nov 21, 2019
TotoNaRubber:

Go to the bank with 5 litres of fuel, demand they bring out the manager or you set the building on fire "na joke o" BUT

GO to the bank and demand they release the funds back to you as you do not accept to buy the bills at the next auction. I think it is normal with First bank to debit you using your old request. It is bad practice as they make free money off you while holding your funds.

Aswear, your first paragraph is what I really would love to do tomorrow.. It doesn’t make any sense, there was no place in the form where I filled “roll over request if bid fails”.
I have lots of engagements starting from next week Monday and need my funds back immediately.
Plus, Tbills isn’t looking enticing anymore.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by richforever123: 10:35pm On Nov 21, 2019
careerwoman:

Aswear, your first paragraph is what I really would love to do tomorrow.. It doesn’t make any sense, there was no place in the form where I filled “roll over request if bid fails”.
I have lots of engagements starting from next week Monday and need my funds back immediately.
Plus, Tbills isn’t looking enticing anymore.

Send your account manager an email, copy CBN if possible, it always works wonders

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 10:49pm On Nov 21, 2019
careerwoman:
Please I don’t understand First Bank
Applied two weeks ago for primary market Tbill. The bid was unsuccessful and they refunded my money into my account.
I’ve already decided to go into forex with a part of the money and needed the other part for some things since I got cash strapped this week.
Now, I just checked my account balance and they’ve deducted the amount again against auction next week.
This is wrong, I didn’t give any additional directive to them to redo the Tbills request.
Please has anyone experienced this? How can I revert it?
Like, my acct balance is almost zero.. embarassed


Don't know the part of forex you have decided to venture into, but if it's forex trading, think twice it's not a business but a Gamble. Good luck

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ukay2: 11:00pm On Nov 21, 2019
needful:
Ukah, pls come and analyze this for me abeg. Totally confusing biko.

Please don't invest with this bond.
It's expensive.....just look at brokerage fee of 1% instead of 0.05% with stanbic ibtc bank itself ....these brokers de make money. ....

Use stanbic ibtc bank. ...

Moreover I have responded to your DPM for other enquiries.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 11:26pm On Nov 21, 2019
TotoNaRubber:
Have you heard about the saying "put your money where your mouth is".

There are complications with financial investments, if you don't live in or are not from the country where you intend to invest, don't do it.

The stress you will go through when there is a problem will threaten the return of capital.

Invest in Nigeria where you can attend to any complications within 24 hours.


Apart from a possible currency conversion rate instabilities , there is no known risk. If you are a Ghanaian that come to Nigeria to invest in tbs, your investment is as secured as a Nigerian that invest in such. Vice versa for a Nigerian that do same in Ghana, just make sure you don't cut corners (fake docs or go against the law) while setting up ur Ghana bank acc, then you are good to go. Treasury bills is not like cocoa beans you sun and stand by to make sure they are well dried, you invest and move on, your presence in the country after investments doesn't matter.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by careerwoman(f): 12:00am On Nov 22, 2019
Akin3891:



Don't know the part of forex you have decided to venture into, but if it's forex trading, think twice it's not a business but a Gamble. Good luck
Thank you.
I wanted to test MBA Forex with $1000 in January.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TotoNaRubber: 6:10am On Nov 22, 2019
It seems the price of the bond per unit is derived by N30,002,446.09 / 25,790 units = N1,163 per unit.

Thé confusion then is why the bond is priced at N109.90 (I guess these are just figures with no direct influence on the bonds).

You will get 5 coupon payments of N2.1m every six months on this from Jan 2020 to Jan 2022.

Was it the total consideration amount you paid?



needful:
Ukah, pls come and analyze this for me abeg. Totally confusing biko.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:12am On Nov 22, 2019
OgogoroFreak:
But foreign investors do invest in Nigeria nau. As long as you open a bank account successfully there, you are good to go for tbills. No bank will seize your money. It doesn't happen.

I know someone who has been in Ghana for about five years now running business and investing in Ghana tbills with no issues.

You need to be resident in Ghana, if you want to invest in their Treasury Bills
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 7:31am On Nov 22, 2019
emmanuelewumi:


You need to be resident in Ghana, if you want to invest in their Treasury Bills
They sell tbills to foreigners but only from the secondary market and minimum of $22k.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by aremso(m): 7:56am On Nov 22, 2019
OgogoroFreak:
They sell tbills to foreigners but only from the secondary market and minimum of $22k.

does one need to invest in $?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 8:41am On Nov 22, 2019
aremso:


does one need to invest in $?
Convert to Ghana cedis
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 9:33am On Nov 22, 2019
careerwoman:

Thank you.
I wanted to test MBA Forex with $1000 in January.

I was a trader for years so i know the rules well enough , there is a speedy eagerness in you when you are about to lose money, the urge is like when you are looking for a toilet to ease your self, firstbank keeping your money for the next primary might be a blessing in disguise. I don't know much about the MBA company but 15% monthly ROI seems fishy to me i found this thread about them. https://www.nairaland.com/5169158/does-investing-mba-forex-real/1

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 9:57am On Nov 22, 2019
You don't need a huge capital to buy fgn bonds (not fgn savings bond)as earlier suggested.

Here's what I got back from stanbic.

Dear Sir,



We would like to thank you for your interest in Stanbic IBTC Stockbrokers Limited (‘’Stanbic IBTC Stockbrokers”). Please find below a brief introduction to our organization.



Stanbic IBTC Stockbrokers Limited (SISL) is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Stanbic IBTC Holding Plc., and a member of The Standard Bank Group, set up to provide world class stockbroking services to local as well as foreign investors in the Nigerian Capital Market. We are currently the largest stockbroking house in Nigeria with a market share of 19.38% of the value of shares traded on the floor of the Nigerian Stock Exchange based on 2018 trading results. We have also successfully acted as the stockbroker to major primary market transactions in Nigeria.



SISL is also an approved Market Maker of a basket of listed equities on The Nigerian Stock Exchange and the Government Stockbroker to Federal Government Bonds. We are currently promoting Retail Bond trading on floors of The NSE.



A stockbroking account will be opened once you fill all the relevant forms and provide the supporting documents. Please note that the minimum amount required to open a Stock broking account with us is N5million (five million naira) which can be a cheque, transfer of shares already resident with other stock broking firms or a combination of the two. Stanbic IBTC Stockbrokers would then act as stockbroker, the agent on the Exchange, to deal in the stocks selected by the investor while the minimum amount to open a stockbroking account with us for the purpose of FGN bond is N100,000

.



We also offer an on-line dealing service, which enables clients view account details and would also be able to provide e-mail confirmations whenever transactions are executed. With our robust software, you are guaranteed on-line access to your account, which would facilitate easier placing of orders, monitoring of account and review of transaction history.



The under listed items are required to accompany the Completed Individual Account Opening Form:



Means of Identification (National ID card, Permanent Voters card, International Passport or a valid Driver’s license)- the original ID should be sighted at any of our bank branch near you or notarized by a notary public if you reside outside the country.
Passport Photograph
Proof of Address (Copy of a recent utility bill in your name) – the original utility bill should be sighted at any of our bank branch near you or notarized by a notary public if you reside outside the country.
Completed copy of the attached DCS form


Please find below bond quote for the available FGN bond as requested.

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by samsonadekola: 10:58am On Nov 22, 2019
Hello Everyone,

There is another ongoing online scam with many people still falling a victim. Their website: https://www.paygold.org/

They are a real fraudulent group please be warned!!! All their investment plans are designed to defraud people!!!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Fxmanager(m): 11:22am On Nov 22, 2019
careerwoman:
Please I don’t understand First Bank
Applied two weeks ago for primary market Tbill. The bid was unsuccessful and they refunded my money into my account.
I’ve already decided to go into forex with a part of the money and needed the other part for some things since I got cash strapped this week.
Now, I just checked my account balance and they’ve deducted the amount again against auction next week.
This is wrong, I didn’t give any additional directive to them to redo the Tbills request.
Please has anyone experienced this? How can I revert it?
Like, my acct balance is almost zero.. embarassed
Before venturing into forex trading, go through the posts in this link first, to be adequately informed. https://www.nairaland.com/5486596/ponzi-schemes-fronting-forex-trading

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OLOBAM: 12:14pm On Nov 22, 2019
careerwoman:
Thank you. I wanted to test MBA Forex with $1000 in January.
please guide your money jealously.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 12:46pm On Nov 22, 2019
Dr. Tayo Oyedeji
@tayooye

1. Send your grain across the seas, and in time, profits will flow back to you (TAKE SOME RISKS).

2. But divide your investments among many places, for you do not know what risks might lie ahead (DIVERSIFY YOUR PORTFOLIO).

- Ecclesiastes 11: 1 - 2 NLT

Investment advise from Solomon, the Warren Buffett + President Obama of ancient Israel.

1. Take some risk.
2. Diversify your portfolio.

His insight still holds true today

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DaBogu: 12:47pm On Nov 22, 2019
Dr. Tayo Oyedeji
@tayooye

There is a bubble of "investment" instruments offering incredible returns everywhere.

To invest safely, focus on asking the right questions.

"How will I get my principal back?" forces you to think strategically.

"How much will I make?" pushes you towards emotional decisions.

"How will I get my principal back?" + "How does it work?" = due diligence + Logic

"How much will I make?" = emotional reaction. It focuses you on returns rather than investment process.

If you don't understand the process, don't invest.

That's why my answer to "Should I invest in crypto currencies or Forex trading?" is always NO.

Don't do it unless you understand how it works.
careerwoman:
Please I don’t understand First Bank
Applied two weeks ago for primary market Tbill. The bid was unsuccessful and they refunded my money into my account.
I’ve already decided to go into forex with a part of the money and needed the other part for some things since I got cash strapped this week.
Now, I just checked my account balance and they’ve deducted the amount again against auction next week.
This is wrong, I didn’t give any additional directive to them to redo the Tbills request.
Please has anyone experienced this? How can I revert it?
Like, my acct balance is almost zero.. embarassed

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Akin3891: 1:18pm On Nov 22, 2019
OgogoroFreak:
They sell tbills to foreigners but only from the secondary market and minimum of $22k.

Cool, i will put a call through to any Ghana bank to seek for more information. I don't want to put my whole life down here, in this beautiful country with a brighter future!

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