Martinez39:
Nna, I weak o. I could have continued debunking and deconstructing her irrational and directionless arguments but I can't go on forever. Women have rights and opportunities as men but, according to the op, it's not empowerment and women need the evil divorce laws and child support laws in the US and other developed countries to be empowered. What sort of logic is that? So divorce laws and child support are women empowerments? You can see we have a crook here. So she needs misandric laws that can be abused to ruthlessly extort money from men before she can be empowered? She and her kind want to open a pandora box.

In life, every decision has it consequences and we must not create a society that absolves individuals of being held accountable. No man forced any woman to marry and no woman forced any man to marry. The risks of marriage include disappointment and unfaithfulness from a spouse, making sacrifices that are eventually futile, a complete turn around in the attitude of your spouse etc. You have no excuse to not be aware of the risks of marriage and it is your responsibility to bear the consequences if your marriage choices backfire and your marriage hits rock-bottom instead of running to the government soliciting child support and alimony. If you can't take the risk, don't get married or don't, as a woman, open your legs and get pregnant for some fvck boy. If op is so concerned about fathers leaving their children, what happens to suing for parental neglect? Why child support and alimony? Because we have a crook and hypocrite on our hands. She has ulterior motives.

If a woman has an abusive husband, let her leave the marriage and let him be punished under the law as an abuser. Its wrong if he is asked to compensate with his properties and cash because women will abuse such laws to set their husbands up and government could tax the money (like they do in the USA) and boom, we have a law that government is motivated to keep and exploit alongside with women. The same applies to alimony and child support. Marriage would turn to a business scheme with the divorce and alimony laws we see in western countries. The price the man needs to pay will keep rising. During a divorce, both individuals in a marriage should be separated such that none makes away with the other's assets or cash. It's funny how she thinks men don't like taking care of their children while forgetting the one's that dump and kill their new borns.


The only thing government must get involved in is parental neglect and when it comes to financially taking care of the kids, the husband and wife must be held accountable no matter what. Nothing stops the women from building wealth before and during the marriage, same with man. All things being equal, custody should be given to who earns more except if the person wants joint custody or grants sole custody to the other. by who earns more. Bad choices, bad consequences.

I rest my case.

the bolded down falls under child support ,but then you would rather roast your balls than to admit that Nigerian men are mostly dead beats who will neglect their kids should they have a misunderstanding with the mother. And there has been no law to keep that in check ,and men often get way with it because "the child will always look for his father " says the Nigerian culture ,lol of course child support will be evil to a Nigerian man,lol.

I cant even believe you said sue for parental neglect ,lol ,such a clown,who gets to do the suing the lady or the kids? I hope you also support women owning their personal properties in marriages incase a typical Nigerian man wakes up and say he doesn't like the way his wife makes egusi soup again and decides to kick her and the children to the curb.

If a woman has a an abusive husband let her leave and take care of her children alone ,and if they are ladies they must come back when they are ready for marriage ,i think that is how you should have put it tho. Lol


Irrational and directionless says a self conceited fellow who thinks taking care of his child with his enstranged wife is a grave "injustice" . lol ,see beyond your nose first.

Ladycewhy:
lol,says another incel with a mixture of stupidity and a gene of asshole lol.

You have nothing to say ,lol, your mentors you are here fighting for can be ancestors or ancient of days ,for their pockets lol,who dem epp? Wetin dey their face to? Lol . Oya shame the devil and drop something sensible and not rant. I am sure you were blind to the shades that flew at me first ,lol obviously i didnt expect you to see it being that you are blinded by your asshole gene,dickhead peace to you too lol.

hahahahaha.so typical. Biiitch i aint gonna ya all are so dumb.

MichaelBukamzy:
hahahahaha.so typical. Biiitch i aint gonna ya all are so dumb.

say something new na,is that all programmed into your dickhead?

Ladycewhy:
say something new na,is that all programmed into your dickhead?

biiitch you want me to tell you something new? Hahaha ok. I enjoy seeing evening newspapers choke on fustration.wail on.

Ladycewhy:
the bolded down falls under child support ,but then you would rather roast your balls than to admit that Nigerian men are mostly dead beats who will neglect their kids should they have a misunderstanding with the mother. And there has been no law to keep that in check ,and men often get way with it because "the child will always look for his father " says the Nigerian cultrue ,lol

I cant even believe you said sue for parental neglect ,lol ,such a clown,who gets to do the suing the lady or the kids?

If a woman has a an abusive husband let her leave and take care of her children alone ,and if they are ladies they must come back when they are ready for marriage ,i think that is how you should have put it tho. Lol

Irrational and directionless says a self conceited fellow who thinks taking care of his child with his enstranged wife is a grave "injustice" . lol ,see beyond your nose first.

I don't have your time. You feminists know the type of child support laws and divorce laws you crave for. I won't argue with you. I could deconstruct this irrational post of yours but I would keep to my promise and let it pass.

Let me add another promise. I won't quote you or give you any attention again. You can rot in your feminist delusions for all I care.

Martinez39:
I don't have your time. You feminists know the type of child support laws and divorce laws you crave for. I won't argue with you. I could deconstruct this irrational post of yours but I would keep to my promise and let it pass.

Let me add another promise. I won't quote you or give you any attention again. You can rot in your feminist delusions for all I care.

lol ,obviously have had enough time tho ,lol what are you going to regurgitate again? Aside your fears of how the status quo should be maintained and how women are empowered enough ,and how child support is an injustice to men bla bla bla .

Oh,you thought it was gonna be another of your crachead pills ,so you dived in to quote me, well glad the effects wore off and you know where your boundary ends i hope you keep to that promise tho if not your mama nor born you well.


Wallow in your incel delusions too, and slow down on those pills ,overdose can kill o. Lol

MichaelBukamzy:
biiitch you want me to tell you something new? Hahaha ok. I enjoy seeing evening newspapers choke on fustration.wail on.

lol , is that so? Lol well i am no newspaper, i am youthful and still very much with age on her side.For some reason you dolts assume this of every female here, Lol try again , ransack through the cells in your dickhead ,just try again lol

Ladycewhy:
lol , is that so? Lol well i am no newspaper, i am youthful and still very much with age on her side.For some reason you dolts assume this of every female here, Lol try again , ransack through the cells in your dickhead ,just try again lol

Male birth control is now available in India in the form of an injection to the groin.

Very soon it will come to Nigeria.
Let all these incels and redpillers stop bringing their seed to this world biko.

Eyeness:
Male birth control is now available in India in the form of an injection to the groin.

Very soon it will come to Nigeria.
Let all these incels and redpillers stop bringing their seed to this world biko.

exactly, to think most of them are baby daddies who couldn't hold down their relationships . make them kuku keep their seeds and stop pulluting the population with their contaminated seeds. Let their crackhead pills fill them and satisfy them through out their days on earth or worse still dey can start drilling asses so we will know the ones who are real men.lol

Martinez39:
Nna, I weak o. I could have continued debunking and deconstructing her irrational and directionless arguments but I can't go on forever. Women have rights and opportunities as men but, according to the op, it's not empowerment and women need the evil divorce laws and child support laws in the US and other developed countries to be empowered. What sort of logic is that? So divorce laws and child support are women empowerments? You can see we have a crook here. So she needs misandric laws that can be abused to ruthlessly extort money from men before she can be empowered? She and her kind want to open a pandora box.

In life, every decision has it consequences and we must not create a society that absolves individuals of being held accountable. No man forced any woman to marry and no woman forced any man to marry. The risks of marriage include disappointment and unfaithfulness from a spouse, making sacrifices that are eventually futile, a complete turn around in the attitude of your spouse etc. You have no excuse to not be aware of the risks of marriage and it is your responsibility to bear the consequences if your marriage choices backfire and your marriage hits rock-bottom instead of running to the government soliciting child support and alimony. If you can't take the risk, don't get married or don't, as a woman, open your legs and get pregnant for some fvck boy. If op is so concerned about fathers leaving their children, what happens to suing for parental neglect? Why child support and alimony? Because we have a crook and hypocrite on our hands. She has ulterior motives.

If a woman has an abusive husband, let her leave the marriage and let him be punished under the law as an abuser. Its wrong if he is asked to compensate with his properties and cash because women will abuse such laws to set their husbands up and government could tax the money (like they do in the USA) and boom, we have a law that government is motivated to keep and exploit alongside with women. The same applies to alimony and child support. Marriage would turn to a business scheme with the divorce and alimony laws we see in western countries. The price the man needs to pay will keep rising. During a divorce, both individuals in a marriage should be separated such that none makes away with the other's assets or cash. It's funny how she thinks men don't like taking care of their children while forgetting the one's that dump and kill their new borns.

The only thing government must get involved in is parental neglect and when it comes to financially taking care of the kids, the husband and wife must be held accountable no matter what. Nothing stops the women from building wealth before and during the marriage, same with man. All things being equal, custody should be given to who earns more except if the person wants joint custody or grants sole custody to the other. Bad choices, bad consequences.

I rest my case.

...My brother,you tried. I don't think i have strength for such.My own now na to Siddon dey look.Anyhow they want it is ok by me.las las,we all will still find out that the whole competition is not worth it.Remain blessed bro.

JONNYSPUTE:
...My brother,you tried. I don't think i have strength for such.My own now na to Siddon dey look.Anyhow they want it is ok by me.las las,we all will still find out that the whole competition is not worth it.Remain blessed bro.

yen yen but you have strength to hover around like a hawk ,how many times have you quoted me on this thread? Lol


Maybe las las na assdriller una go turn las las while una mates dey count 20 years wedding anniversary. Cos i know say many ancestor baby daddies full una incels circle for here lol

JONNYSPUTE:
...My brother,you tried. I don't think i have strength for such.My own now na to Siddon dey look.Anyhow they want it is ok by me.las las,we all will still find out that the whole competition is not worth it.Remain blessed bro.

You are right, the whole competition is not worth it. Right now, I don't see any solution or good ending to this gender struggle.

Martinez39:
You are right, the whole competition is not worth it. Right now, I don't see any solution or good ending to this gender struggle.

gender struggle or your crackhead pills movement that was passed down to you from the emasculated western men lol.

Ladycewhy:
yen yen but you have strength to hover around like a hawk ,how many times have you quoted me on this thread? Lol


Maybe las las na assdriller una go turn las las while una mates dey count 20 years wedding anniversary. Cos i know say many ancestor baby daddies full in incels circle for here lol

.. Hahahahahahaha. Nne ehee,you no go kill me for here I swear. I said you ve won the argument is that an offence again?. Meanwhile,we are not arguing about who quoted each other more, thought this a discussion class? Easy o.My pills don even finish still waiting for martinez39 to supply me with more pills.Walahi,I don die for laugh here.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. Hahahahahahaha. Nne ehee,you no go kill me for here I swear. I said you ve won the argument is that an offence again?. Meanwhile,we are not arguing about who quoted each other more, thought this a discussion class? Easy o.My pills don even finish still waiting for martinez39 to supply me with more pills.Walahi,I don die for laugh here.

what argument? Lol i stated my opinion which i reiterated severally that it was my opinion then you incels came like flies on shit with your crackeaded delusions like the typical bitter frustrated testosterone raging baby daddy ancestors to missyarn dust.

No worry, na over dose una circle go follow go the other side las las one by one, here nor go reach you die, Lol

JONNYSPUTE:
.. Hahahahahahaha. Nne ehee,you no go kill me for here I swear. I said you ve won the argument is that an offence again?. Meanwhile,we are not arguing about who quoted each other more, thought this a discussion class? Easy o.My pills don even finish still waiting for martinez39 to supply me with more pills.Walahi,I don die for laugh here.

Here you go. We have laughed enough today. Make sure you relieve your wife of "double responsibilities", she can't do all the chores and share the bills while you share the bills and do nothing but "raise your feet".

More red pills. More is more. Good night.

Martinez39:
Here you go. We have laughed enough today. Make sure you relieve your wife of "double responsibilities", she can't do all the chores and share the bills while you share the bills and do nothing but "raise your feet" .

More red pills. More is more. Good night.

oh so you got my point but has been roaming around like network ? Good you finally got my point tho.

I always knew you dolts understood my point but choose to derail and misyarn ,lol. Guess its another side effect of that pill too

Martinez39:
Here you go. We have laughed enough today. Make sure you relieve your wife of "double responsibilities", she can't do all the chores and share the bills while you share the bills and do nothing but "raise your feet".

More red pills. More is more. Good night.

.. Lol.Thanks for the pills.Make I kuku hide am from the kids before they throw them away.Hahahaha. Goodnyt bro.

Ladycewhy:
what argument? Lol i stated my opinion which i reiterated severally that it was my opinion then you incels came like flies on shit with your crackeaded delusions like the typical bitter frustrated testosterone raging baby daddy ancestors to missyarn dust.

No worry, na over dose una circle go follow go the other side las las one by one, here nor go reach you die, Lol

.. lol. Funny girl.

JONNYSPUTE:
.. lol. Funny girl.

yeah, i am o, i didnt want it to go this way, hence i kept reierating it was my personal opinion but you nairaland boys have a way of turning things around. Agbaya ancestors

Ladycewhy:
lol , is that so? Lol well i am no newspaper, i am youthful and still very much with age on her side.For some reason you dolts assume this of every female here, Lol try again , ransack through the cells in your dickhead ,just try again lol

hahaha.i done cum.i'm done with you biitch.

MichaelBukamzy:
hahaha.i done cum.i'm done with you biitch.

monosyllabic programmed dickheaded asshole , Still want to try again ? Cos e nor rhyme Lol

This is really Interesting, local man just dey one corner dey follow thread from 1st page up till this point. Well, these are my PERSONAL SUBMISSIONS:

(1) Las Las, A PEACEFUL MARRIAGE is a about the Arrangements/Conclusion wey Man and Woman Reach before dem Wed. Coz me Don see a Family whereby Na the Husband salary dem dey use for Saving to get cars for the husband and the Wife + Development of their personal Site + House Rent WHILE The Wife was IN CHARGE OF ALL OTHER FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES that require Settlement. Blv me U, the couple celebrated their 30th Wedding Anniversary this Year and they are As HAPPY AS POSSIBLE.. Though the Analysis was For when they were still tenants and still Struggling ooo, but Now Ehnnn, they are MULTIMILLIONAIRES, so IT THUS ALL BOIL DOWN GETTING MARRIED TO SOMEONE WEY GO UNDERSTAND UR IDEOLOGIES

(2) 1 question wey I go like ask be sey LET'S assume the case scenario whereby THE MAN IS IN ABSOLUTE CHARGE OF THE FAMILY FINANCES AND STILL EMPLOYED A FULL-TIME HOUSEHELP ON A MONTHLY PAY-ROLL WEY he dey Settle as Well. IN THIS CASE, WETIN BE THE DUTY OF THE WOMAN??.. A live Example is our Neighbor though and that's a fact glaring to everyone for our Street

(3) I dey Get issues with this western world divorce Method ooo. Why is it that half the Man Net worth must be carted away by the Female in a Divorce court? Though the case of Jeff Bezos is Clear that he Cheated on his Wife, but Now my question is LET'S NOW ASSUME IT WAS HIS WIFE THAT CHEATED AND JEFF NOW DECIDED TO FILE FOR A DIVORCE, WETIN THE WOMAN GET TO LOOSE Abi the court go still talk sey make he pay SETTLEMENT FEE IN FORM OF PAY-OFF OR THE LIKES??
Just asking

olawaleseun:
This is really Interesting, local man just dey one corner dey follow thread from 1st page up till this point. Well, these are my PERSONAL SUBMISSIONS:

(1) Las Las, A PEACEFUL MARRIAGE is a about the Arrangements/Conclusion wey Man and Woman Reach before dem Wed. Coz me Don see a Family whereby Na the Husband salary dem dey use for Saving to get cars for the husband and the Wife + Development of their personal Site + House Rent WHILE The Wife was IN CHARGE OF ALL OTHER FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITIES that require Settlement. Blv me U, the couple celebrated their 30th Wedding Anniversary this Year and they are As HAPPY AS POSSIBLE.. Though the Analysis was For when they were still tenants and still Struggling ooo, but Now Ehnnn, they are MULTIMILLIONAIRES, so IT THUS ALL BOIL DOWN GETTING MARRIED TO SOMEONE WEY GO UNDERSTAND UR IDEOLOGIES

(2) 1 question wey I go like ask be sey LET'S assume the case scenario whereby THE MAN IS IN ABSOLUTE CHARGE OF THE FAMILY FINANCES AND STILL EMPLOYED A FULL-TIME HOUSEHELP ON A MONTHLY PAY-ROLL WEY he dey Settle as Well. IN THIS CASE, WETIN BE THE DUTY OF THE WOMAN??.. A live Example is our Neighbor though and that's a fact glaring to everyone for our Street

(3) I dey Get issues with this western world divorce Method ooo. Why is it that half the Man Net worth must be carted away by the Female in a Divorce court? Though the case of Jeff Bezos is Clear that he Cheated on his Wife, but Now my question is LET'S NOW ASSUME IT WAS HIS WIFE THAT CHEATED AND JEFF NOW DECIDED TO FILE FOR A DIVORCE, WETIN THE WOMAN GET TO LOOSE Abi the court go still talk sey make he pay SETTLEMENT FEE IN FORM OF PAY-OFF OR THE LIKES??
Just asking

Adele is paying her husband for divorce, Wendy Williams had to pay spousal support to her husband who cheated and even had a baby on her, but una nor go hear those ones,even if una hear una go pretend say una nor hear,lol.


If una feel say if the woman nor dey bring money come house she nor dey do anything why e be say when man loose e job e dey hard una to take care of the house since nor be anything, infact na insult to una to be house husband ,but according to you nor be anything.

How Do I Understand/satisfy My Husband?

Go read this thread for front page make you tell me why e dey hard the man to take charge of the non financial aspect of the house and swtich roles since nor be anything .

You can never have a meaningful discussion with a Nigerian male without insults, it's either they call you a bit.tch or a dumb olosho or any other thing that comes to that dirty brain of theirs. Bitter souls.

@Op I perfectly understand the points you are making here.

I can't work and share the bills with my husband and yet he expects me to do the house chores including cooking all by myself, he has to help me too.

But if due to the nature of his job he can't, then the next option is to get a maid.

Ardar:
You can never have a meaningful discussion with a Nigerian male without insults, it's either they call you a bit.tch or a dumb olosho or any other thing that comes to that dirty brain of theirs. Bitter souls.

@Op I perfectly understand the points you are making here.

I can't work and share the bills with my husband and yet he expects me to do the house chores including cooking all by myself, he has to help me too.

But if due to the nature of his job he can't, then the next option is to get a maid.

simple, that was what i said o, some men are so patheic they cant even look after a baby for an hour , but in came the nairaland goons on their crackhead pills ,lol

Ladycewhy:
Exactly what the women empowerment movement was all about, to create a support system for women be self sufficient and not be controlled by "rules and instructions " from their husbands according to Martinez39 . But seems women now think the only way to earn respect is to offset the bill so they can share in the power ,which i think its a dead end .

Few words paint the big picture of reality

Ladyhippolyta88:

It may be a dead end to you.
But money is power .
To have power you need money and humans not just women love that.
Who plays the piper dictates the tune that is why some men are intimidated by financially capable women.

I see your point. Thanks for sharing

Why this debate is tiring is that emotional women are religious and yet don't want to abolish what has been written in their religious books and don't want to follow it as well.

Gender roles are clearly defined in all the holy books

The only way you can practice what you preaches is to stay unmarried. That you wouldn't have to worry your head about a man's role.

The funniest part is women know all about all that is wrong with men.

kazyhm:

Why this debate is tiring is that emotional women are religious and yet don't want to abolish what has been written in their religious books and don't want to follow it as well.

Gender roles are clearly defined in all the holy books

The only way you can practice what you preaches is to stay unmarried. That you wouldn't have to worry your head about a man's role.

The funniest part is women know all about all that is wrong with men.

Oga, my problem is that she is worried about nonexistent problems and an erroneous notion. Let me explain.
1) The marriage arrangement of a woman doing the chores alone and sharing bills while the man shares the bills only doesn't describe the average family in Nigeria or even the average family globally. Such marriage arrangement cannot be obtained even if you follow the gender roles of the bible. In virtually all cases in Nigeria, it's the man doing the providing alone while the woman takes care of the chores or she and man share the chores (even though the man is providing alone because ''it's too difficult to look after the child'' ) or there is an house maid. In fact, even when the woman has money, it's not unusual to see her practice "my money is my money, your money is our money" as the guy foots all the bills. Even when they share the bills, the husband will share the chores. So the op is ranting over a very very rare marriage arrangement.
2) Even when such marriage arrangements exists, it cannot be due to feminism as most feminists, being the hypocrites that they are, would marry a richer provider husband and have the beneficial marriage arrangements in my first point. Even if a feminists shares the bills, she would invariably share the chores with her husband. The feminist's ego and ideals would never allow her have the marriage setting the op described. So you see, the op erred when she said such marriage arrangement (as described in her op) is due to feminism. She is plainly wrong and feminism is not leading any woman to take double responsibilities.
3) As I have said, men do not owe women their money. It's not written anywhere that a real man provides for a woman. It is not incumbent on any man to provide for a woman and it is not a sin if a woman is asked to provide (prove me wrong).
4) Women are already empowered. They already have the same rights and opportunities as men.

All these were what I was trying to address in my argument with the op.

Martinez39:
Oga, my problem is that she is worried about nonexistent problems and an erroneous notion. Let me explain .
1) The marriage arrangement of a woman doing the chores alone and sharing bills while the man shares the bills only doesn't describe the average family in Nigeria or even the average family globally. Such marriage arrangement cannot be obtained even if you follow the gender roles of the bible. In virtually all cases in Nigeria, it's the man doing the providing alone while the woman takes care of the chores or she and man share the chores (even though the man is providing alone because ''it's too difficult to look after the child'' ) or there is an house maid. In fact, even when the woman has money, it's not unusual to see her practice "my money is my money, your money is our money" as the guy foots all the bills. Even when they share the bills, the husband will share the chores. So the op is ranting over a very very rare marriage arrangement.
2) Even when such marriage arrangements exists, it cannot be due to feminism as most feminists, being the hypocrites that they are, would marry a richer provider husband and have the beneficial marriage arrangements in my first point. Even if a feminists shares the bills, she would invariably share the chores with her husband. The feminist's ego and ideals would never allow her have the marriage setting the op described. So you see, the op erred when she said such marriage arrangement (as described in her op) is due to feminism. She is plainly wrong and feminism is not leading any woman to take double responsibilities.
3) As I have said, men do not owe women their money. It's not written anywhere that a real man provides for a woman. It is not incumbent on any man to provide for a woman and it is not a sin if a woman is asked to provide (prove me wrong).
4) Women are already empowered . They already have the same rights and opportunities as men.

All these were what I was trying to address in my argument with the op.

how many marriages do you know coming from an old agbaya who probably cant hold down a relationship for an hour lol, regurgitated rubbish as usual, dem nor even mention you now o, but you rush come again ,lol.let me explain like say the na blab you dey blab since ,if after all the epistles you have been regurgitating you feel you still need to explain,i dont even know what to call you ,lol


Translation of all the mumble jumbo up there in no particular order;


-Men dont owe their children money and child support is an injustice to men,

-Women need to maintain the status quo and do as they are instructed after all their grand mothers didn't even have the priviledges they have today so they are empowered enough,

-Nigerian men do chores too ,the op is lying ,


-Only feminists say Nigerian men don't do chores.

Ladycewhy:
how many marriages do you know coming from an old agbaya who probably cant hold down a relationship for an hour lol, regurgitated rubbish as usual, dem nor even mention you now o, but you rush come again ,lol.

When u don't hv anything sensible to say u shame and hurl insults. Been going through the whole thread and u haven't made any sense neither hv u adequately responded or addressed his points.

Unpussified:



When u don't hv anything sensible to say u shame and hurl insults. Been going through the whole thread and u haven't made any sense neither hv u adequately responded or addressed his points.

scroll up .