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achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: Like I said your inability to comprehend author's intent will EMBARRASS you here .

Achorladey: Hahahahaha, leave embarrassment alone jumping from brain filled with dust to mentally diseased now EMBARRASS.


CAPTIVATOR The reason why this dictionary should enlighten you again.

Profess

1.
claim that one has a quality or feeling, especially when this is not the case.

Achorladey: I have seen this previously and break it down as it applies to the sentence under consideration nothing new to see here.

Profess:.........1. to receive formally into a religious community following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS


CAPTIVATOR: Would a Real JEHOVAH WITNESS abuse a Child?

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha. I laugh because I still see JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in front of REAL. Hahahahaha.

CAPTIVATOR: If no, what does that make those who do, QUALIFIED Jehovah witness ?

Achorladey: No, they are Qualified members of other Christian denominations or qualified OUTSIDERS or QUALIFIED interested PERSONS. Hahahahahahahaha! Or perhaps QUALIFIED FAKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES if there is room for it in the dictionary of Jws.

So those Paul referred to as FALSE BROTHERS, are QUALIFIED FAKE BROTHERS, since they are also Baptized ? At the point of baptism , they were baptizes as False brothers ?

Where is your sense ?

CAPTIVATOR: And Part of the Required VOW is to abuse Children?

Achorladey: This will make me go to this statement below.......

"[Name of person]/LAKASAGBA is no longer ONE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES."

I know you are familiar with the above statement. Since LAKASAGBA as an example is JUST an ORDINARY FAKE JEHOVAH WITNESS who has/had ABUSED CHILDREN since the opposite of REAL is FAKE, will the below

LAKASAGBA is no longer ONE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES." be read to the congregation? Yes/No

Why is he no longer one ... Lacking the quality he claimed to have ?

And what does this tell you about this question of yours..........And Part of the Required VOW is to abuse Children?

Then the following.......

PUBLIC DECLARATION OF YOUR PERSONAL DEDICATION

[Invite candidates(would or soon to be WHO? to stand]

Please answer the following two questions in a loud voice:

(1) On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented
of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will? (Your
answer, please)...............fill as REQUIRED

(2) Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as
ONE of JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES in ASSOCIATION with GOD’S SPIRIT-DIRECTED
ORGANIZATION? (Your answer, please)..............fill as required

As "ONE" of REAL JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES or ONE of FAKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. Which one?

YOUR CLEAR, AFFIRMATIVE answers to these questions indicate that you
are QUALIFIED for BAPTISM as ORDAINED MINISTERS of JEHOVAH GOD

REAL ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH
or
FAKE ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH

Which one?

At this point do you CAPTIVATOR accept them(the CANDIDATES) as REAL or FAKE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Please do you see the word "QUALIFIED" there?

[PRAYER by SPEAKER, after which he invites the audience to stand and
join the candidates in singing.

Your head is filled with DUsT

Question 2 is a proceeding of question 1.

Question 1 says *Dedicate yourself to DO Jehovah's will*

Question 2 says that dedication ( To Jehovah) identify you as a witness.

Now Since the person has REFUSE to walk according to Jehovah God will, They are not a Minister of Jehovah as shown in 2., they gave a false claim to Jehovah, lip service when their heart wasn't Ready to Do his will.

Is Jehovah's will, Child abuse ?

CAPTIVATOR: What does that make those who break the vow to commit such wickedness , lacking the quality of a Jehovah's witness ?

Achorladey: Emphasis on THOSE WHO BREAK after reading the above you should be able to fit the pieces together.

To help you a bit, they are like every other JWS the difference being that they SUCCUMBED to SEXUALLY ABUSING CHILDREN.

CAPTIVATOR: I said that your head will reboot by force.

Achorladey: You are switching career from doctor of MENTALLY DISEASED to COMPUTER BRAIN ENGINEER? Hahahahaha!. There the need to REBOOT mine. Your palaver to sort.

CAPTIVATOR: So tell me the difference between those who abuse children and those who don't?

Achorladey: Simple..........Those who abuse children and those who don't abuse children share one thing in common in the congregations, THEY ARE BOTH Jehovah's witnesses.

The difference is just one also

"SOME" PROFESSING i.e THOSE RECEIVED FORMALLY into the religious community of Jehovah's
Witnesses as QUALIFIED ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH (I.e JEHOVAH WITNESS) following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS have SUCCUMBED to PERVERTED fleshly desire and have sexually abused children------ABUSES CHILDREN

MANY OTHERS i.e. THOSE RECEIVED FORMALLY into the religious community of Jehovah's Witnesses as QUALIFIED ORDAINED MINISTER OF JEHOVAH (i.e JEHOVAH WITNESS) following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS have NOT SUCCUMBED to PERVERTED fleshly desire and DON'T sexually abuse children---------------------------DONT ABUSE CHILDREN

This has been stated previously, I only hope you know where I am headed

CAPTIVATOR: Refer back to my question for the bold.

I have EXPLAINED and answer your question. Before you get to this Part.

CAPTIVATOR: Since you admit that NOT ALL JW abuse children sexually, and the writer knows this hence the use of SOME to indicate those lacking the quality.

Achorladey: Good. Now your concentration here should be on this part of your post

"SOME" TO INDICATE THOSE LACKING THE QUALITY" and how it relates to SUCCUMBED

What you should have seen and note from here is since the "SOME" LACK THE QUALITY, then the need to SUCCUMB become useless, they are therefore doing what they know how to do BEST i.e ABUSE CHILDREN. After all THEY LACK that QUALITY that would made them not to ABUSE CHILDREN.

"SOME" TO INDICATE THOSE HAVING THE QUALITY and how it relates to SUCCUMBED

What you should have seen and note from here is since the "SOME" HAVING THE QUALITY i.e THOSE RECEIVED FORMALLY into the religious community of Jehovah's Witnesses as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES following a novitiate by ACCEPTANCE of the REQUIRED VOWS (QUALIFIED), then they are therefore doing WHAT they DON'T know how to do BEST i.e ABUSE CHILDREN the reason the WRITER used SUCCUMBED to PERVERTED fleshly desire and have sexually abused children.

CAPTIVATOR: Explain the difference between those who succumbed to such wickedness and those who don't ?

You have the difference in more explanations than one right in front of you before you get to this part.

Your head is empty, go back to those two questions, Which dedication identify the person as a Jehovah witness ?

Is Child abuse part of that Dedication to Jehovah will ?

CAPTIVATOR:
So those Paul referred to as FALSE BROTHERS, are QUALIFIED FAKE BROTHERS, since they are also Baptized ? At the point of baptism , they were baptizes as False brothers ?

Where is your sense ?



Why is he no longer one ... Lacking the quality he claimed to have ?



Your head is filled with DUsT

Question 2 is a proceeding of question 1.

Question 1 says *Dedicate yourself to DO Jehovah's will*

Question 2 says that dedication ( To Jehovah) identify you as a witness.

Now Since the person has REFUSE to walk according to Jehovah God will, They are not a Minister of Jehovah as shown in 2., they gave a false claim to Jehovah, lip service when their heart wasn't Ready to Do his will.

Is Jehovah's will, Child abuse ?



Your head is empty, go back to those two questions, Which dedication identify the person as a Jehovah witness ?

Is Child abuse part of that Dedication to Jehovah will ?

CAPTIVATOR: So those Paul referred to as FALSE BROTHERS, are QUALIFIED FAKE BROTHERS, since they are also Baptized ? At the point of baptism , they were baptizes as False brothers?

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha! I still see brother I'm front of qualified fake or false whatever you have up there. Hope you get it.

CAPTIVATOR: Where is your sense ?

Achorladey: You are the one LOOKING for it, Find it!

CAPTIVATOR: Why is he no longer one ... Lacking the quality he claimed to have ?

Achorladey: This part made me LAUGH, "WHY IS HE NO LONGER ONE"........I thought HE IS NOTHING BEFORE NI. You are NOW asking why he is no longer ONE, Hahahahaha

and you can see this in front of you before you respond to this part of my post below.....

know you are familiar with the above statement. Since LAKASAGBA as an example is JUST an ORDINARY FAKE JEHOVAH WITNESS who has/had ABUSED CHILDREN since the opposite of REAL is FAKE, will the below

LAKASAGBA is no longer ONE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES." be read to the congregation? Yes/No

Looooool. The answer to your question is already in my previous post.

CAPTIVATOR: Your head is filled with DUST

Achorladey: paste and print it on marble and place it anywhere you cherish as a beautiful reminder. As long as you agree you share something common with me to be able have a discussion with DUST FILLED BRAIN PERSONALITY.

CAPTIVATOR: Question 2 is a proceeding of question 1.

Achorladey: As if you cited the material and I told you that I need further explanation

CAPTIVATOR: Question 1 says *Dedicate yourself to DO Jehovah's will*

Achorladey: I know

CAPTIVATOR: Question 2 says that dedication ( To Jehovah) identify you as a witness.

Achorladey: I know

CAPTIVATOR: Now Since the person has REFUSE to walk according to Jehovah God will,

Achorladey: since when did THE PERSON REFUSE TO WALK OOOOOOOO?

CAPTIVATOR: They are not a Minister of Jehovah as shown in 2., they gave a false claim to Jehovah, lip service when their heart wasn't Ready to Do his will.

Achorladey: Exactly what I have been driving at, the keyhere is pack them under "FALSE CLAIM TO JEHOVAH", "LIP SERVICE" and throw them under the THE BUS. The BAIT worked just the way the WRITER of the ARTICLE wanted it.

Imagine you typing they MADE FALSE CLAIMS and LIP SERVICE
made me laugh.....

CAPTIVATOR: Is Jehovah's will, Child abuse?

Achorladey: You expect answer, it's a pity you are asking an individual with BRAIN filled with dust. Hahahahaha.

CAPTIVATOR: Your head is empty, go back to those two questions, Which dedication identify the person as a Jehovah witness ?

Achorladey: It's no longer SUCCUMBED it's now WHICH DEDICATION. Hahahahaha.

CAPTIVATOR: Is Child abuse part of that Dedication to Jehovah will ?

Achorladey: It's a pity answers don't come from HEAD that is EMPTY because it is simply EMPTY.Hahahahahahah.

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: So those Paul referred to as FALSE BROTHERS, are QUALIFIED FAKE BROTHERS, since they are also Baptized ? At the point of baptism , they were baptizes as False brothers?

Achorladey: Hahahahahaha! I still see brother I'm front of qualified fake or false whatever you have up there. Hope you get it.

CAPTIVATOR: Where is your sense ?

Achorladey: You are the one LOOKING for it, Find it!

CAPTIVATOR: Why is he no longer one ... Lacking the quality he claimed to have ?

Achorladey: This part made me LAUGH, "WHY IS HE NO LONGER ONE"........I thought HE IS NOTHING BEFORE NI. You are NOW asking why he is no longer ONE, Hahahahaha

and you can see this in front of you before you respond to this part of my post below.....

know you are familiar with the above statement. Since LAKASAGBA as an example is JUST an ORDINARY FAKE JEHOVAH WITNESS who has/had ABUSED CHILDREN since the opposite of REAL is FAKE, will the below

LAKASAGBA is no longer ONE of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES." be read to the congregation? Yes/No

Looooool. The answer to your question is already in my previous post.

CAPTIVATOR: Your head is filled with DUST

Achorladey: paste and print it on marble and place it anywhere you cherish as a beautiful reminder. As long as you agree you share something common with me to be able have a discussion with DUST FILLED BRAIN PERSONALITY.

CAPTIVATOR: Question 2 is a proceeding of question 1.

Achorladey: As if you cited the material and I told you that I need further explanation

CAPTIVATOR: Question 1 says *Dedicate yourself to DO Jehovah's will*

Achorladey: I know

CAPTIVATOR: Question 2 says that dedication ( To Jehovah) identify you as a witness.

Achorladey: I know

CAPTIVATOR: Now Since the person has REFUSE to walk according to Jehovah God will,

Achorladey: since when did THE PERSON REFUSE TO WALK OOOOOOOO?

CAPTIVATOR: They are not a Minister of Jehovah as shown in 2., they gave a false claim to Jehovah, lip service when their heart wasn't Ready to Do his will.

Achorladey: Exactly what I have been driving at, the keyhere is pack them under "FALSE CLAIM TO JEHOVAH", "LIP SERVICE" and throw them under the THE BUS. The BAIT worked just the way the WRITER of the ARTICLE wanted it.

Imagine you typing they MADE FALSE CLAIMS and LIP SERVICE
made me laugh.....

Profess ... Claim of having a feeling or quality, when this is not the case.

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CAPTIVATOR: Is Jehovah's will, Child abuse?

Achorladey: You expect answer, it's a pity you are asking an individual with BRAIN filled with dust. Hahahahaha. [/b]

CAPTIVATOR: Your head is empty, go back to those two questions, Which dedication identify the person as a Jehovah witness ?

Achorladey: It's no longer SUCCUMBED it's now WHICH DEDICATION. Hahahahaha.


CAPTIVATOR: Is Child abuse part of that Dedication to Jehovah will ?

Achorladey: It's a pity answers don't come from HEAD that is EMPTY because it is simply EMPTY.Hahahahahahah.

When your brain decide to answer that question, we would see if they gave Lip service to Jehovah or not.

CAPTIVATOR:
Profess ... Claim of having a feeling or quality, when this is not the case.





When your brain decide to answer that question, we would see if they gave Lip service to Jehovah or not.

CAPTIVATOR: When your brain decide to answer that question, we would see if they gave Lip service to Jehovah or not.

Achorladey: Your questions, I have answered with explanation and you equally know what the writer have in mind now and its nice I see you highlighting it. The DUST FILLED BRAIN you and I share in common hahahahaha to be able to discuss, I have used to answer your question but that of mine, Smh!


This part in particular is still making me laugh....

YOUR CLEAR, AFFIRMATIVE answers to these questions indicate that you are QUALIFIED for BAPTISM as ORDAINED MINISTERS of JEHOVAH GOD.

yet this below according to CAPTIVATOR that it's JUST A ...................

..............CLAIM of having a feeling or QUALITY, when this is NOT the case.

#QUALIFIED#QUALITY hahahahaha

and the speaker go on to say THEY ARE QUALIFIED AS ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH BASED on THE FALSE CLAIM of these individuals and every other individuals watching on as AUDIENCE clap,cheer and merry to FALSE CLAIMS and FALSE ORDINATION and pray over them PAAPAA on FALSE CLAIM and FALSE ORDINATION. Hahahahahaha. I salute you CAPTIVATOR.

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: When your brain decide to answer that question, we would see if they gave Lip service to Jehovah or not.

Achorladey: Your questions, I have answered with explanation and you equally know what the writer have in mind now and its nice I see you highlighting it. The DUST FILLED BRAIN you and I share in common hahahahaha to be able to discuss, I have used to answer your question but that of mine, Smh!


This part in particular is still making me laugh....

YOUR CLEAR, AFFIRMATIVE answers to these questions indicate that you are QUALIFIED for BAPTISM as ORDAINED MINISTERS of JEHOVAH GOD.

yet this below according to CAPTIVATOR that it's JUST A ...................

..............CLAIM of having a feeling or QUALITY, when this is NOT the case.

#QUALIFIED#QUALITY hahahahaha

and the speaker go on to say THEY ARE QUALIFIED AS ORDAINED MINISTERS OF JEHOVAH BASED on THE FALSE CLAIM of these individuals and every other individuals watching on as AUDIENCE clap,cheer and merry to FALSE CLAIMS and FALSE ORDINATION and pray over them PAAPAA on FALSE CLAIM and FALSE ORDINATION. Hahahahahaha. I salute you CAPTIVATOR.

Now that you know the meaning of profess as False claim, Your problem has shifted to the speaker and Audience that clapped.


Small brain like yours , Their affirmative answers make them go " Unnoticed" by the speaker and audience. The audience and the speaker were never at fault. . READ THAT OVER and OVER AGAIN!


"For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed —ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ." Jude 1:4

Ungodly people came into the congregation, how ? UNNOTICED , Giving False claims, pretending to be what they are not . Its only their works that expose them!

Do you have sense now ?

CAPTIVATOR:
Now that you know the meaning of profess as False claim, Your problem has shifted to the speaker and Audience that clapped.


Small brain like yours , Their affirmative answers make them go " Unnoticed" by the speaker and audience. The audience and the speaker were never at fault. . READ THAT OVER and OVER AGAIN!


"For certain men have crept in among you unnoticed —ungodly ones who were designated long ago for condemnation. They turn the grace of our God into a license for immorality, and they deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ." Jude 1:4

Ungodly people came into the congregation, how ? UNNOTICED , Giving False claims, pretending to be what they are not . Its only their works that expose them!

Do you have sense now ?

CAPTIVATOR: Now that you know the meaning of profess as False claim, Your problem has shifted to the speaker and Audience that clapped.

Achorladey: Hahahahahahaha, Oga you fall into the BAIT already, pack them under the umbrella of false CLAIMS then throw throw them under the BUS.

CAPTIVATOR: The audience and the speaker were never at fault. . READ THAT OVER and OVER AGAIN!

Achorladey: Didn't I tell you that you FALL into the BAIT. Read this again, the AUDIENCE and SPEAKER were NEVER at FAULT. Hahaha hahaha! Including all THOSE who QUALIFIED THEM for BAPTISM, Including those appointed into position under the influence of holy spirit by those taking the lead or elders/GB. They were ALL NEVER AT FAULT. Hahahahahahaha.

CAPTIVATOR: Do you have sense now?

Achorladey: You are the one looking for SENSE in your previous post, you REMEMBER? As it seems you are yet to find YOUR "SENSE" you are looking for. I am not searching for one OGA CAPTIVATOR.

CAPTIVATOR: Small brain like yours,

Achorladey: it's no longer dust filled or empty head.

CAPTIVATOR: Their affirmative answers make them go " Unnoticed" by the speaker and audience.

Achorladey: This your UNNOTICED makes me looooool yet the below......

PUBLIC DECLARATION OF YOUR PERSONAL Dedication and they go UNNOTICED even with all what they HAVE to do and checks and commitments set before THEM until they get to that level or STAGE of making it a public DECLARATION and all what they did up to the extent of getting appointed into POSITIONS in the CONGREGATION. Hahahahahahaha!

You Must THROW THEM UNDER THE BUS ONE WAY or the OTHER. You have fallen into the BAIT. Here you are CITING Jude 1:4 when the WRITER of the watchtower used "SUCCUMBED" you are here TELLING me PRETENDING TO BE and FALSE CLAIMS hahahahaha.

Had you read carefully you will have seen all of this after sidestepping #QUALITY#QUALIFIED.

achorladey:
Here you are CITING Jude 1:4 when the WRITER of the watchtower used "SUCCUMBED" you are here TELLING me PRETENDING TO BE and FALSE CLAIMS hahahahaha.

Had you read carefully you will have seen all of this after sidestepping #QUALITY#QUALIFIED.

Here is the paragraph again:


Why? “Wicked men and impostors” abound, and some may try to enter the congregation. ^{( Jude 1:4 Category 1, Profess Falsely, ungodly men)} (2 Tim. 3:13) [b] In addition, some professing to be a part of the congregation have succumbed to perverted fleshly desires and have sexually abused children. [/b]

There are two sections in the above. And BOTH sections " PROFESS " . profess here means different things, My definition was for number 1. , which you lied the writer never address, the writer Uses Profess to refer to FALSE CLAIMS

1. Those who made a False Claim, as evidenced by " wicked men" enter the congregation . how ? Jude 1:4 , they also PROFESS, do u agree profess in this case refer to False claim ?


2. This are those who didn't make a false claim from start but give in to fleshly desires .

Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ? Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

CAPTIVATOR:
The writer of the article also used PROFESS, does that not embrace the False claim ?

Read that Jude 1:4 again. How come those ungodly men crept in and no one noticed! " they turn the grace of our Lord into [b] a license for immorality " .

CAPTIVATOR: The writer of the article also used PROFESS, does that not EMBRACE the False claim?

Achorladey: You are the one telling me the "profess" means now as captured above EMBRACE FALSE CLAIMS. Before to you it means LACKING THE QUALITY and no other meaning is acceptable. What is it before it starts to EMBRACE FALSE CLAIMS. HAHAHAHAHA!

CAPTIVATOR: Read that Jude 1:4 again. How come those ungodly men crept in and no one noticed! " they turn the grace of our Lord into a license for immorality

Achorladey: The" SOME" you are TRYING TO place and throw under the BUS of UNGODLY MEN are you sure they crept in "UNNOTICED". When they come in to the organization do they not OPENLY DECLARE THEY HAVE REPENTED OF THEIR Sins and ungodly deeds?

Did many within the organization and congregations at large not see the changes made? As an example there are articles produced by the organization that talks about BIBLE CHANGES LIVES. Should such person SUCCUMBED to the perverted act of CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE. Is such an individual part of the UNGODLY THAT CREPT IN UNNOTICED?

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: The writer of the article also used PROFESS, does that not EMBRACE the False claim?

Achorladey: You are the one telling me the "profess" means now as captured above EMBRACE FALSE CLAIMS. Before to you it means LACKING THE QUALITY and no other meaning is acceptable. What is it before it starts to EMBRACE FALSE CLAIMS. HAHAHAHAHA!

CAPTIVATOR: Read that Jude 1:4 again. How come those ungodly men crept in and no one noticed! " they turn the grace of our Lord into a license for immorality

Achorladey: The" SOME" you are TRYING TO place and throw under the BUS of UNGODLY MEN are you sure they crept in "UNNOTICED". When they come in to the organization do they not OPENLY DECLARE THEY HAVE REPENTED OF THEIR Sins and ungodly deeds?

Did many within the organization and congregations at large not see the changes made? As an example there are articles produced by the organization that talks about BIBLE CHANGES LIVES. Should such person SUCCUMBED to the perverted act of CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE. Is such an individual part of the UNGODLY THAT CREPT IN UNNOTICED?

Here is the paragraph again:


Why? “Wicked men and impostors” abound, and some may try to enter the congregation. ^{( Jude 1:4 Category 1, Profess Falsely, ungodly men)} (2 Tim. 3:13) [b] In addition, some professing to be a part of the congregation have succumbed to perverted fleshly desires and have sexually abused children. [/b]

There are two sections in the above. And BOTH sections " PROFESS " . profess here means different things, My definition was for number 1. , which you lied the writer never address, the writer Uses Profess to refer to FALSE CLAIMS

1. Those who made a False Claim, as evidenced by " wicked men" enter the congregation . how ? Jude 1:4 , they also PROFESS, do u agree profess in this case refer to False claim ?


2. This are those who didn't make a false claim from start but give in to fleshly desires .

Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ? Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

CAPTIVATOR:
The same way you have been defending yourself on the other thread , where is Jozzy4 ? .

You will still die just like your founding fathers died. Armageddon will not come. You will not live forever on any paradise earth. Last last na still only inside your head and watchtower magazine you will see paradise earth.

Hairyrapunzel:
You will still die just like your founding fathers died. Armageddon will not come. You will not live forever on any paradise earth. Last last na still only inside your head and watchtower magazine you will see paradise earth.

I know u can be psychotic at times.

At a time every Jew refer to the Eden lost by Adam as " Paradise " , which paradise did Jesus promise the theif at his side ?

CAPTIVATOR:
Here is the paragraph again:


Why? “Wicked men and impostors” abound, and some may try to enter the congregation. ^{( Jude 1:4 Category 1, Profess Falsely, ungodly men)} (2 Tim. 3:13) [b] In addition, some professing to be a part of the congregation have succumbed to perverted fleshly desires and have sexually abused children. [/b]

There are two sections in the above. And BOTH sections " PROFESS " . profess here means different things, My definition was for number 1. , which you lied the writer never address, the writer Uses Profess to refer to FALSE CLAIMS

1. Those who made a False Claim, as evidenced by " wicked men" enter the congregation . how ? Jude 1:4 , they also PROFESS, do u agree profess in this case refer to False claim ?


2. This are those who didn't make a false claim from start but give in to fleshly desires .

Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ? Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

CAPTIVATOR: Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ?


Next time when you pick up conversation with someone look well to see where they are headed, You jumped into the conversation without ascertaining where I left it with the previous person, here you are now TELLING ME CATEGORY 1, CATEGORY 2.

OGA CAPTIVATOR where did the word "PROFESSING" OCCUR in the paragraph?

Category 1 or Category 2.

Now you know it is CATEGORY 2 what is my problem with CATEGORY 1? HAHAHA HAHA. The bone of contention is right from the start on CATEGORY 2.

Yet you rain numerous qualifying remarks thinking you are the MASTER/ CAPTIVATOR of ENGLISH LANGUAGE or the INVENTOR. HMMMMMM.

Where I am headed I told you earlier you proved it to me.

CAPTIVATOR: Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

Achorladey: I leave you to ponder over until the next time. At least you know Jesus christ said things on the faithful and the unfaithful slave.

Luke 12: 41 - 46.

41 Then Peter said: “Lord, are you telling this illustration just to us or also to everyone?” 42 And the Lord said: “Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time?+ 43 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! 44 I tell you truthfully, he will appoint him over all his belongings. 45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’+ and starts to beat the male and female servants and to eat and drink and get drunk,+ 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting him and at an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones.

From the above Oga CAPTIVATOR answer your question as raised above.

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: Number 2 was never my point from beginning but Number 1 .. False Profess, now that you introduce Succumb which was used ONLY for category 2 . do u have any issues with that ?


Next time when you pick up conversation with someone look well to see where they are headed, You jumped into the conversation without ascertaining where I left it with the previous person, here you are now TELLING ME CATEGORY 1, CATEGORY 2.

OGA CAPTIVATOR where did the word "PROFESSING" OCCUR in the paragraph?

Category 1 or Category 2.

Wicked men ENTER the congregation, Ungodly men who crept in _

By enter u think opening the door of kingdom Hall, Dont be silly, this are members with False Claim from start , This ones also profess but were False right from Start .

It says " in addition " to include them . before moving to the next.


Which u lied the Writer never meant Profess in the sense of False Claim !

Now you know it is CATEGORY 2 what is my problem with CATEGORY 1? HAHAHA HAHA. The bone of contention is right from the start on CATEGORY 2.

Yet you rain numerous qualifying remarks thinking you are the MASTER/ CAPTIVATOR of ENGLISH LANGUAGE or the INVENTOR. HMMMMMM.

Where I am headed I told you earlier you proved it to me.

CAPTIVATOR: Is it possible for someone who was once faithful to become unfaithful ?

Achorladey: I leave you to ponder over until the next time. At least you know Jesus christ said things on the faithful and the unfaithful slave.

Luke 12: 41 - 46.

41 Then Peter said: “Lord, are you telling this illustration just to us or also to everyone?” 42 And the Lord said: “Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time?+ 43 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so! 44 I tell you truthfully, he will appoint him over all his belongings. 45 But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’+ and starts to beat the male and female servants and to eat and drink and get drunk,+ 46 the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting him and at an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones.

From the above Oga CAPTIVATOR answer your question as raised above.

This is a warning, not even applicable to everyone, that slave feed others, If all of us are the slave , whom do we feed ??

To answer the former question myself, its possible, so what exactly is your problem that the writer admit some formerly faithful members succumb to wrong desires and become unfaithful ?

CAPTIVATOR:
Wicked men ENTER the congregation, Ungodly men who crept in _

By enter u think opening the door of kingdom Hall, Dont be silly, this are members with False Claim from start , This ones also profess but were False right from Start .

It says " in addition " to include them . before moving to the next.


Which u lied the Writer never meant Profess in the sense of False Claim !



This is a warning, not even applicable to everyone, that slave feed others, If all of us are the slave , whom do we feed ??

To answer the former question myself, its possible, so what exactly is your problem that the writer admit some formerly faithful members succumb to wrong desires and become unfaithful ?

CAPTIVATOR : Wicked men ENTER the congregation, Ungodly men who crept in _

By enter u think opening the door of kingdom Hall, Dont be silly, this are members with False Claim from start , This ones also profess but were False right from Start .

It says " in addition " to include them . before moving to the next.
Which u lied the Writer never meant Profess in the sense of False Claim !

Achorladey: I believe you get my question there the first time. Where did the word PROFESSING APPEAR in the ARTICLE.? Category 1 or Category 2.

After all you group it into two yourself.



CAPTIVATOR: This is a warning, not even APPLICABLE to EVERYONE , that slave feed others, If all of us are the slave , whom do we feed ?

Achorladey: Will you RATHER REMAIN UNFAITHFUL since it's NOT APPLICABLE to EVERYONE perhaps INCLUDING YOU? Hahaha ha hahaha.

Do you SLAVE for CHRIST or IT IS NOT APPLICABLE TO YOU? Haha Hahaha.

Imagine if ALL OF US ARE SLAVES WHOM DO WE FEED. As an example, the 8 "FAITHFUL SLAVE" housed in Walkill are all SLAVES do they feed one another? When you answer that, you will answer the question you asked yourself.




CAPTIVATOR: To answer the former question myself, its possible,

Achorladey: Good you note that it is POSSIBLE.

CAPTIVATOR: so what exactly is your problem that the writer admit some formerly faithful members succumb to wrong desires and become unfaithful ?

Achorladey: My problem now is what I have been able to achieve with all what we have discussed so far as stated previously in the post you responded to.

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR : Wicked men ENTER the congregation, Ungodly men who crept in _

By enter u think opening the door of kingdom Hall, Dont be silly, this are members with False Claim from start , This ones also profess but were False right from Start .

It says " in addition " to include them . before moving to the next.
Which u lied the Writer never meant Profess in the sense of False Claim !

Achorladey: I believe you get my question there the first time. Where did the word PROFESSING APPEAR in the ARTICLE.? Category 1 or Category 2.

After all you group it into two yourself.

The word" u say ? Evidently you admitted it was APPLIED in both.

CAPTIVATOR: This is a warning, not even APPLICABLE to EVERYONE , that slave feed others, If all of us are the slave , whom do we feed ?

Achorladey: Will you RATHER REMAIN UNFAITHFUL since it's NOT APPLICABLE to EVERYONE perhaps INCLUDING YOU? Hahaha ha hahaha.

Do you SLAVE for CHRIST or IT IS NOT APPLICABLE TO YOU? Haha Hahaha.

Imagine if ALL OF US ARE SLAVES WHOM DO WE FEED. As an example, the 8 "FAITHFUL SLAVE" housed in Walkill are all SLAVES do they feed one another? When you answer that, you will answer the question you asked yourself.




CAPTIVATOR: To answer the former question myself, its possible,

Achorladey: Good you note that it is POSSIBLE.

CAPTIVATOR: so what exactly is your problem that the writer admit some formerly faithful members succumb to wrong desires and become unfaithful ?

Achorladey: My problem now is what I have been able to achieve with all what we have discussed so far as stated previously in the post you responded to.

While Jesus single out the faithful and discreet slave in feeding all other servants of his ..
Did he said that slave will never eat ?

Sense is all you need!

CAPTIVATOR:
The word" u say ? Evidently you admitted it was APPLIED in both.



While Jesus single out the faithful and discreet slave in feeding all other servants of his ..
Did he said that slave will never eat ?

Sense is all you need!

CAPTIVATOR: The word" u say ? Evidently you admitted it was APPLIED in both.

Achorladey: where did the word "PROFESSING" appear ONCE AGAIN? Category 1 or Category 2

CAPTIVATOR: While Jesus single out the faithful and discreet slave in feeding all other servants of his ..

Achorladey: "SINGLED OUT AGAIN" hahaha hahaha. Are you singled out as a FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE of CHRIST or it is not for everyone as USUAL?


CAPTIVATOR: Did he said that slave will never eat?

Achorladey: I believe you know they will EAT the QUESTION once again is WHO FEEDS them? After all the 8 are all SLAVES. If you answer the question you will equally answer the previous question.

CAPTIVATOR: Sense is all you need!

Achorladey: Have you found the ONE you were LOOKING For PREVIOUSLY?

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR: The word" u say ? Evidently you admitted it was APPLIED in both.

Achorladey: where did the word "PROFESSING" appear ONCE AGAIN? Category 1 or Category 2

The question is : Does it apply to both ? Because am sure those in category 1 also profess before entering the congregation

[quote]CAPTIVATOR: While Jesus single out the faithful and discreet slave in feeding all other servants of his ..

Achorladey: "SINGLED OUT AGAIN" hahaha hahaha. Are you singled out as a FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE of CHRIST or it is not for everyone as USUAL?

That his master APPOINTS.

CAPTIVATOR: Did he said that slave will never eat?

Achorladey: I believe you know they will EAT the QUESTION once again is WHO FEEDS them? After all the 8 are all SLAVES. If you answer the question you will equally answer the previous question.

CAPTIVATOR: Sense is all you need!

Achorladey: Have you found the ONE you were LOOKING For PREVIOUSLY?

The person that serve others would feed himself.

CAPTIVATOR:
The question is : Does it apply to both ? Because am sure those in category 1 also profess before entering the congregation

Good point .

CAPTIVATOR:
The question is : Does it apply to both ? Because am sure those in category 1 also profess before entering the congregation

CAPTIVATOR : The question is : Does it apply to both ? Because am sure those in category 1 also profess before entering the congregation.

Achorladey: You no fit answer the category the word PROFESS APPEAR AGAIN. Hahahahaha! Now it is you are SURE THOSE IN CATEGORY ONE ALSO PROFESS. E get as e be

CAPTIVATOR: That his master APPOINTS

Achorladey: It would be nice to know WHO this HIS MASTER really HIS. His this MASTER your MASTER Too?

CAPTIVATOR: The person that serve others would feed himself

Achorladey: As it were the SLAVE FEED FELLOW SLAVE. You should by now know you have answered your questions.

achorladey:
CAPTIVATOR : The question is : Does it apply to both ? Because am sure those in category 1 also profess before entering the congregation.

Achorladey: You no fit answer the category the word PROFESS APPEAR AGAIN. Hahahahaha! Now it is you are SURE THOSE IN CATEGORY ONE ALSO PROFESS. E get as e be

CAPTIVATOR: That his master APPOINTS

Achorladey: It would be nice to know WHO this HIS MASTER really HIS. His this MASTER your MASTER Too?

CAPTIVATOR: The person that serve others would feed himself

Achorladey: As it were the SLAVE FEED FELLOW SLAVE. You should by now know you have answered your questions.

Prove him wrong that they didn't .

Jozzy4:
Prove him wrong that they didn't .

Prove him wrong ko! Prove him right ni. Person never answer where PROFESSING dey for the paragraph, you sey make I prove am wrong. Later he will tell me the below.........

You need a daily coaching on something called Authors intent. U are too low in comprehension, profess has different meaning but the author used it in the sense of the meaning I gave you.



Hahahahaha.

achorladey:
Prove him wrong ko! Prove him right ni. Person never answer where PROFESSING dey for the paragraph, you sey make I prove am wrong. Later he will tell me the below.........

You need a daily coaching on something called Authors intent. U are too low in comprehension, profess has different meaning but the author used it in the sense of the meaning I gave you.



Hahahahaha.

I only want to know of the wicked men and impostor didn't profess to be a member of the congregation . that's all .

Jozzy4:
I only want to know of the wicked men and impostor didn't profess to be a member of the congregation . that's all .

Ask your brother where the word "PROFESS" is contained in that material cited under category 1 or category 2 as differentiated by your brother. You will know once you you do so.

achorladey:
Ask your brother where the word "PROFESS" is contained in that material cited under category 1 or category 2 as differentiated by your brother. You will know once you you do so.

Take care.

CAPTIVATOR:
I know u can be psychotic at times.

At a time every Jew refer to the Eden lost by Adam as " Paradise " , which paradise did Jesus promise the theif at his side ?

It's still the same thing. You will wait for armageddon and paradise earth and it will never come. The only place you will see these is inside your head/imagination and in watchtower magazine. You will die waiting for armageddon and paradise earth like your founding fathers even like your current governing body nothing will still happen. You go wait tire.

CAPTIVATOR:
I know u can be psychotic at times.

At a time every Jew refer to the Eden lost by Adam as " Paradise " , which paradise did Jesus promise the theif at his side ?

Can you tell us which time every jew referred to eden lost by Adam as paradise?

Hairyrapunzel:
It's still the same thing. You will wait for armageddon and paradise earth and it will never come. The only place you will see these is inside your head/imagination and in watchtower magazine. You will die waiting for armageddon and paradise earth like your founding fathers even like your current governing body nothing will still happen. You go wait tire.

Not surprised at your mocking, it's prophesied already at 2 Peter 3:3-6. You are only fulfilling what has been prophesied. Keep it up. If anything, it is an indication that we are indeed living in the end time. (know this first, that there shall come at the close of the days mockers with mocking, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for from the time the fathers fell asleep all things remain thus from the beginning of the creation. For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water, by the word of God; by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.)

Skreem:
Not surprised at your mocking, it's prophesied already at 2 Peter 3:3-6. You are only fulfilling what has been prophesied. Keep it up. If anything, it is an indication that we are indeed living in the end time. (know this first, that there shall come at the close of the days mockers with mocking, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for from the time the fathers fell asleep all things remain thus from the beginning of the creation. For this they willfully forget, that there were heavens from of old, and an earth formed out of water and amid water, by the word of God; by which means the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.)

End times since the days of the bible. Last last you will wait and nothing will happen. You will end up dying of heart break like your forefathers did when the end time didn't show up.

CAPTIVATOR:
Wicked men ENTER the congregation, Ungodly men who crept in _

By enter u think opening the door of kingdom Hall, Dont be silly, this are members with False Claim from start , This ones also profess but were False right from Start .

It says " in addition " to include them . before moving to the next.


Which u lied the Writer never meant Profess in the sense of False Claim !



This is a warning, not even applicable to everyone, that slave feed others, If all of us are the slave , whom do we feed ??

To answer the former question myself, its possible, so what exactly is your problem that the writer admit some formerly faithful members succumb to wrong desires and become unfaithful ?

Your gb even tell you that you are not slaves of jesus christ. Hmmm what a pity

Janosky:
89 . OLAADEGBU( m ): Quote Post
" Ali: "Someone who is abused like that...it
causes a stress that...PTSD but they are
told to call the legal department before they
call the police...
Elder1: "The police are involved
immediately"
Ali: "How can they (the police) be handling it
immediately if they aren't called? because in
Montana the Legal Department told those
elders, where reporting is mandatory, to not
call the police....." (banging my head against
the wall at this point.) "It's not personal (I
don't have anything personal against this
elder...."



**** OLAADEGBU is peddling FALSEHOOD of Ali's baseless claims.
Na which JW video talk say no reporting of child abuse matter?

The JW in the YouTube video restated matter of factly,"the Police are involved immediately", that's the point of emphasis in Paragraph 13 of the Watchtower article being referenced


$$**2.

"Ali: "They say on average people who are
assualted sexually as children don't know
how to piece together what even happened
until 30 years old or older."
Elder: "AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE SO
THANKFUL FOR JEHOVAH'S ORGANISATION
THAT EDUCATES US AND YOUNG ONES"
Ali: "I guess my last question, because I
respect you as people if that was the truth,
how come in Australia in 2015, and I had
this conversation with brother Fry (a CO) in
2016....people at high levels in this
organisation do know"
(um yeah...like Geoffrey Jackson and
friends)
"In Australia alone, case number 29, you can
look it up yourself....court documents, not
commentaries....of those 1006 cases of CSA
that were documented, guess how many
were reported to police?"


Na which 1940's to 1970s Anti -CSA law (the period that the rapes were said to have occurred) did the Australian Commission or the Police tell the world that JWs have contravened?

In 1940's to 1970's Australia's conservative society , few parents would dare expose their children to public stigma attached to rape.
JWs can not be scapegoat for Australia's societal malaise.
No JW parent was barred from reporting CSA to the appropriate quarter.

*** That YouTube video na lie lie full am....

what else should we expect from cult of personality worshipper wey kumuyi dey spoonfeed with junk !

What are the lies of the YouTube video?

CAPTIVATOR:
I know u can be psychotic at times.

At a time every Jew refer to the Eden lost by Adam as " Paradise " , which paradise did Jesus promise the theif at his side ?

"You would be with me in paradise." Said Jesus in Lu 23:43. Jesus will be in heaven, where the paradise of God is, as would the the repented thieve whom he promised. This paradise is mentioned by the apostle Paul in 2 Cor 12:4. (Note, After decades of denial, watchtower has recently admitted that the paradise of 2 Co 12:4 is heavenly.)

rottennaija:
"You would be with me in paradise." Said Jesus in Lu 23:43. Jesus will be in heaven, where the paradise of God is, as would the the repented thieve whom he promised.

One, you are a clown, ... Casting yourself up and down, so did this thief eat the flesh and blood of Jesus to gain everlasting life ?

Secondly, Been born again is a condition for gaining access to heavenly kingdom, Mr rottennaija is the thief born again ? The answer to this please ( John 3:5,6)

This paradise is mentioned by the apostle Paul in 2 Cor 12:4. (Note, After decades of denial, watchtower has recently admitted that the paradise of 2 Co 12:4 is heavenly.)

Like i said, you are a clown
Can you quote the explanation proper and lets compare with your assertion above ?