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Re: My Opinion On Feminism by CHoccolaTE:
I see that the dumbass redpill morons on this thread have succeeded in provoking op even though she started on a very civil and peaceful note.
OP kpele o
I dont know if you are new to nairaland but the average small boy on nairaland will spend hours and hours browsing foreign sites like reddit and then come to a Nigerian site thinking they can apply foreign ideologies in Nigeria that's why many of them will start wondering idiotic wonders like how are women still being oppressed,
Are women not given equal opportunities like men?
Are they not already empowered?
And all other crap they would have known about if they actually left their foriegn websites and went into Nigerian society to see how things work.

You have made very good points op, too bad some small boys are too dumb to comprehend.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by emmaodet: 7:49pm On Nov 23, 2019
Martinez39:
We are really not safe (I never implied we are. I only chipped in the last statement because the Americans already have it worse and our discussion is related to single motherhood). Marriage is no longer seen as big deal these days and baby mamas seem to be a trend and it's a growing trend. Fathers need to be in their homes and raise their kids together with the mother of the kids. Also, contrary to what women like to think, it takes a real man to raise a real man. Real men are not born but made made that's most boys from single mothers are weak, simps, and usually undisciplined.

The future is not a pleasant one. Las las mgtow will come to Nigeria in full force because smart men will realise that the game is already rigged against them and the best move is not to play. This evil is coming soon as we can that the female monikers are here are in full support of the wicked divorce and child support laws we see in the west. Even our sisters, mums, and all other women (feminist or not) will never protest such laws.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
It's well.
Even technology is not helping matters in that even if we start boycotting marriage or not having kids with these women, they have a chance of going to get sperm in the sperm bank and produce there own babies thereby continuing the process of producing kids with no fatherly figure and this bastards will find there way to key positions to influence laws.
I think anyway we see it, we are really bleeped on every side.
God help us all
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by CHoccolaTE: 7:52pm On Nov 23, 2019
On a side note and unrelated to the topic, one thing that's making me laugh is how entitled the average man feels and they have the nerve to call women entitled
Can you believe some people think traditional roles were fair to women.

Traditionally the man had to provide for the wife even if the provision he is providing cannot satisfy her needs properly and in exchange for his shitty provisions the wife in return had to:

1. Submit to his authority whether she is happy or miserable aka strip away her freewill and freedom.
2. Cook two/three times every single day for household for all the decades they stay married.
3. Clean up after everyone on the house including mr shitty provider
4. Endure stress and sickness of pregnancy while keeping house in one piece
5. Cater for children for all the years it takes then to be able to look after themselves
6. All her children belong to the mans lineage and family and bear his name
7. Even in the past, married women had farms they worked on to grow crops for sale or for feeding family so they were always co providers, it didn't start with modern feminism.

Basically men have done one thing and one thing only in the family structure since the beginning of time which is to provide. Remove their ability to provide and see how useless many of them become.
Lousy useless group of people.
It wouldn't even be so bad if they didn't go around causing all sorts of violent mayhem and wars and criminality, they create majority of problems in the world and at the same time endlessly gripe and whine about how women are very evil and bad and entitled,.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 8:02pm On Nov 23, 2019
emmaodet:
Hmmmmmmmmm.
It's well.
Even technology is not helping matters in that even if we start boycotting marriage or not having kids with these women, they have a chance of going to get sperm in the sperm bank and produce there own babies thereby continuing the process of producing kids with no fatherly figure and this bastards will find there way to key positions to influence laws.
I think anyway we see it, we are really bleeped on every side.
God help us all
Well if they can get that technology to make synthetic sperms (because men won't give their sperms since they can be roped in for child support) and provide like men do (most times they usually need the help of the government to fleece men) then what you are saying will happen. It's not a funny end.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by maynation(f): 8:19pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
come you self conceited incel before you call people toxic you need to look in the mirror ,lol mr "everything i say is sound" lol.

Any man who doesn't who doesn't take your crackhead pills is a simping Lol, so all men must follow your baby daddy ancestor mentor who has a child out of wedluck but refused to wed her because she is from a tribe he doesn't like even tho he claims she is decent?

Lol, your mentor is a baby daddy ancestor who cant even hold a relationship but knows alot about women ,how cool. And this is the same person you want men who want to have a healthy relationship to imitate? Ofcourse he will give them names for choosing to live a life other that that of a toxic baby daddy lifestyle.lol
grin cheesy
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 9:23pm On Nov 23, 2019
CHoccolaTE:
I see that the dumbass redpill morons on this thread have succeeded in provoking op even though she started on a very civil and peaceful note.
OP kpele o
I dont know if you are new to nairaland but the average small boy on nairaland will spend hours and hours browsing foreign sites like reddit and then come to a Nigerian site thinking they can apply foreign ideologies in Nigeria that's why many of them will start wondering idiotic wonders like how are women still being oppressed,
Are women not given equal opportunities like men?
Are they not already empowered?
And all other crap they would have known about of they actually left their foriegn websites and went into Nigerian society to see how things work.

You have made very good points op, too bad some small boys are too dumb to comprehend.
honestly, that was why i kept reiterating that it was my personal opinion, but these dickheads just have a way to be usual dolts they are known for ,very insufferable beings
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m):
CHoccolaTE:
On a side note and unrelated to the topic, one thing that's making me laugh is how entitled the average man feels and they have the nerve to call women entitled
Can you believe some people think traditional roles were fair to women.

Traditionally the man had to provide for the wife even if the provision he is providing cannot satisfy her needs properly and in exchange for his shitty provisions the wife in return had to:

1. Submit to his authority whether she is happy or miserable aka strip away her freewill and freedom.
2. Cook two/three times every single day for household for all the decades they stay married.
3. Clean up after everyone on the house including mr shitty provider
4. Endure stress and sickness of pregnancy while keeping house in one piece
5. Cater for children for all the years it takes then to be able to look after themselves
6. All her children belong to the mans lineage and family and bear his name
7. Even in the past, married women had farms they worked on to grow crops for sale or for feeding family so they were always co providers, it didn't start with modern feminism.

Basically men have done one thing and one thing only in the family structure since the beginning of time which is to provide. Remove their ability to provide and see how useless many of them become.
Lousy useless group of people.
It wouldn't even be so bad if they didn't go around causing all sorts of violent mayhem and wars and criminality, they create majority of problems in the world and at the same time endlessly gripe and whine about how women are very evil and bad and entitled,.
Not surprised that you hate men.

(1)) You cunningly and subtly tried to emphase and outstretch the case where the traditional man couldn't provide sufficiently and the woman did her work superbly and aptly thereby being shortchanged as the general representation of all cases back then.
(2)) You also failed to mention that even men and women reserved their daughters for capable men who could provide. You think a traditional man could marry without paying bride price.
(3)) You also erred when you limited the usefulness of traditional men to only providing. You forget that traditional men were the ones who fought wars in which they sacrificed their lives for women and children. They protected and provided security.
(4)) You talk of providing as though it was something traditional men could easily pull from their pockets while women "greatly suffered" being traditional wives. This is ludicrous. The difficulty of the sole act of consistently making money to cater for the family (I exclude protecting and fighting wars) is more difficult than fulfilling the traditional roles of a wives. You would be dishonest to say taking care of the kids and doing the chores are more difficult than making money consistently in the real world.

The seven roles you listed are either irrational or exaggerations.
1. Submit to his authority whether she is happy or miserable aka strip away her freewill and freedom.
Lol. So you want them to rub shoulders and heads with their husbands? Even the ancients knew marriage is like a ship and every ship needs just one captain and since it was a patriarchy, men were the leaders and head. If it had been the other way round, a matriarchy, you women wouldn't be complaining. Stop complaining on behalf of traditional women who enjoyed their marriage. Funny enough, if you give traditional women the feminist men of today, they will reject them in favour of the strong masculine and capable men they've always knew.

Men being the head was not a stripping of women's freedom instead both parties had responsibilities. Is it bad to have responsibilities? Men were not given the position of the head just like that as that position came with it's own responsibility and accountability.

2. Cook two/three times every single day for household for all the decades they stay married.
What is wrong in this? Is it wrong if there is a division of labour in which the man provides and protects while the woman is responsible for the cooking?

3. Clean up after everyone on the house including mr shitty provider
The men of those days who got married were capable providers so shove your hatred up your ass. As I have said, the combined work of looking after the children, cooking, and doing the chores does not equal the difficulty and stress of consistently building up resources to provide and the job of protecting.

4. Endure stress and sickness of pregnancy while keeping house in one piece
Bullcrap. Traditional women were willing and glad to bear children even though they knew the stress of pregnancy and pains of childbirth. Depending on the stage of pregnancy, a woman can be pregnant and still do certain things and that's a fact. If she got too heavy, other wives or a maid took over. Besides, it's not a man's fault that nature endowed women with ability to get pregnant and give birth the way they do. Should we recompense you all for being women? Jokers.

5. Cater for children for all the years it takes then to be able to look after themselves
Men too catered for children. They did with the stuffs they provided. Mother did her part, father did his part.

6. All her children belong to the mans lineage and family and bear his name
It was a patriarchy so what did you expect. Even if I asked you to give a sound reason why any of the genders is entitled to giving the child it's name, you can't. If you count it unfair for the children to have the father's name, why wouldn't it be unfair for them to have the mother's name?

7. Even in the past, married women had farms they worked on to grow crops for sale or for feeding family so they were always co providers, it didn't start with modern feminism.
Na so. The farms were owned by men and women did minor work on their husband farms (eg. helping in harvesting crops sometimes, taking food and water to the men toiling on the farm, going to market to sell the farm produce etc.) the hard work and majority of the work were done by men. The scale and magnitude of farming men did were never done by women, not even up to one-eighth. As men worked, women stayed home to look after the kids and prepared what the men and boys would eat when they came back.

Women already have the same rights and opportunities as men so they are empowered. If you think there are tribes in Nigeria in which women are being oppressed, fight for their equal rights and opportunities as well, that's the true empowerment. You make yourself a joke if your best response to women oppression is divorce laws and child support laws. Lmao. grin

N.B: this is all I would say to you. I wouldn't respond anymore or go back and forth. I end this matter here.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op):
CHoccolaTE:
On a side note and unrelated to the topic, one thing that's making me laugh is how entitled the average man feels and they have the nerve to call women entitled
Can you believe some people think traditional roles were fair to women.

Traditionally the man had to provide for the wife even if the provision he is providing cannot satisfy her needs properly and in exchange for his shitty provisions the wife in return had to:

1. Submit to his authority whether she is happy or miserable aka strip away her freewill and freedom.
2. Cook two/three times every single day for household for all the decades they stay married.
3. Clean up after everyone on the house including mr shitty provider
4. Endure stress and sickness of pregnancy while keeping house in one piece
5. Cater for children for all the years it takes then to be able to look after themselves
6. All her children belong to the mans lineage and family and bear his name
7. Even in the past, married women had farms they worked on to grow crops for sale or for feeding family so they were always co providers, it didn't start with modern feminism.

Basically men have done one thing and one thing only in the family structure since the beginning of time which is to provide. Remove their ability to provide and see how useless many of them become.
Lousy useless group of people.
It wouldn't even be so bad if they didn't go around causing all sorts of violent mayhem and wars and criminality, they create majority of problems in the world and at the same time endlessly gripe and whine about how women are very evil and bad and entitled,.
well said, they become vindictive and bitter when their ability to provide is taken away, before you know any small thing "na because i nor get work" , even when they are supposed to use their heads and atleast help out since they are useless to their pockets.lol.

According to them women are the greatest evil ever known to the world o. Meanwhile 99% of the people that have soiled the name of this country are all men, even here in Nigeria ,from boko haram, to bandits, to rutialist to serial killers to cultists to yahoo, to pedeophiles even sodomising young boys, they now even have occupational rapists , lol
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by TruthTella(m): 9:31pm On Nov 23, 2019
Lol

I refuse to read through that claptrap

God forbid.

Feminists my arse
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by CHoccolaTE: 9:39pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
honestly, that was why i kept reiterating that it was my personal opinion, but these dickheads just have a way to be usual dolts they are known for ,very insufferable beings
I know, when they run out of sensible things to say they start writing irrational bullshit all in a bid to avoid agreeing with females because they want to protect online reputation of being rolemodel redpillers

Many men are so stupid
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 9:42pm On Nov 23, 2019
CHoccolaTE:
I know, when they run out of sensible things to say they start writing irrational bullshit all in a bid to avoid agreeing with females because they want to protect online reputation of being rolemodel redpillers

Many men are so stupid
especially the ones from here , sadly , i am sure most of them are apprentices of uwamaikpe and the other toxic baby daddy ancestor.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Martinez39(m): 9:42pm On Nov 23, 2019
TruthTella:
Lol

I refuse to read through that claptrap

God forbid.

Feminists my arse
FEMINISM IS CANCER.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by CHoccolaTE: 9:43pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
well said, they become vindictive and bitter when their ability to provide is taken away, before you know any small this "na because i nor get work" , even when they are supposed to use their heads and atleast help out since they are useless to their pockets.lol.

According to them women are the greatest evil ever known to the world o. Meanwhile 99% of the people that have soiled the name of this country are all men, even here in Nigeria ,from boko haram, to bandits, to rutialist to serial killers to cultists to yahoo, to pedeophiles even sodomising young boys, they now even have occupational rapists , lol
grin

I really enjoyed your last paragraph grin

That's the thing I like reminding women of for them to realise male superiority is just absolute nonsense.

Look at that one telling me men fight wars to protect women as if they were not also protecting their own male interests on the process of fighting wars, as if the soldiers were not protecting their fellow men as well, as if the men themselves were not the cause of the wars.
Who else will fight wars that men started if not men themselves? Idiots
Go around causing trouble and mayhem then want to be patted on the back for doing barest minimum
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op):
CHoccolaTE:
grin

I really enjoyed your last paragraph grin

That's the thing I like reminding women of for them to realise male superiority is just absolute nonsense.

Look at that one telling me men fight wars to protect women as if they were not also protecting their own male interests on the process of fighting wars, as if the soldiers were not protecting their fellow men as well as if the men themselves were not the cause of the wars.
Who else will fight wars that men started if not men themselves? Idiots
Go around causing trouble and mayhem then want to be patted on the back for doing barest minimum
lol, if you look at it critically these men are more threat to humanity than women they will gladly accuse of being the greatest evil known to man kind,lol.


Anyway ,i hope women correct the abnormalities starting with how they raise their sons, its time to do create now individual with new norms different form that of our mysogynistic forefathers.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:07pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
I would like to point out that this is my personal opinion and i in no way want to infringe on the right of others to have their opinion as well but nevertheless it is my opinion.

I have said it time and time again that i think modern day feminism which has shifted from its main aim of equity to equality is women shooting themselves in the foot. Again my Personal opinion.

Nature has a made the roles very clear ,the provider and the caregiver. The man is the provider and the woman is the care giver.

Women have wombs for a reason ,ever wondered why men don't? Think on that.

Now if men are not helping women offload their biological weight why are women struggling to help men offload their financial weight to prove a point? The truth is the self esteem of men is tied to one thing "being able to provide". A man who works comes home ,hangs his feet and waits for his food, but a working house wife , comes home takes care of the kids ,cooks ,cleans before she eats. You see why i said women are shooting themselves in the foot because in trying to prove a point ,you are working yourself more no wonder many women look older than their husbands.

That is why i will not pay for a date,or give a man money ,its your duty as a man to provide ,and if you cant , off you go. Our forefathers gave their wives lands to farm ,that was their own way of providing,some of our mothers didnt even farm. But you see modern men shying away from this aspect and wanting women to be co-providers yet they will not agree to be co-caretakers and caregivers.Even men who loose their jobs instead of taking the role of the caregiver to ease the load off their wives become bitter and vindictive and develop this victim mentality cos the only thing tied to their manliness is actually their ability to provide .

I believe in equity , treating humans irrespective of gender with respect and dignity that was the original aim of feminism not this power tussle and gender grandstanding we see today and this is just my opinion .
I am very sure you don't know any man who wants his wife to be a coprovider but does not want to be a co-caretaker.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:10pm On Nov 23, 2019
CHoccolaTE:
I see that the dumbass redpill morons on this thread have succeeded in provoking op even though she started on a very civil and peaceful note.
OP kpele o
I dont know if you are new to nairaland but the average small boy on nairaland will spend hours and hours browsing foreign sites like reddit and then come to a Nigerian site thinking they can apply foreign ideologies in Nigeria that's why many of them will start wondering idiotic wonders like how are women still being oppressed,
Are women not given equal opportunities like men?
Are they not already empowered?
And all other crap they would have known about if they actually left their foriegn websites and went into Nigerian society to see how things work.

You have made very good points op, too bad some small boys are too dumb to comprehend.
As far as I know, women are given equal opportunities in Nigeria, men are just better at taking them.
I expect to be disabused of this false notion I apparently hold in my head. grin
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 10:15pm On Nov 23, 2019
ThothHermes:
I am very sure you don't know any man who wants his wife to be a coprovider but does not want to be a co-caretaker.
you must likely live under a rock or something to say that. Lol
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:18pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
you must likely live under a rock or something to say that. Lol
Lol. grin grin

You don't.
Think carefully.

You are just assuming that there are such men.
Be honest. Do you any such man personally?
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 10:20pm On Nov 23, 2019
ThothHermes:
Lol. grin grin

You don't.
Think carefully.

You are just assuming that there are such men.
Be honest. Do you any such man personally?
yes, any other stupid question?
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:23pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
yes, any other stupid question?
No need to get testy.


You mean his wife also contributes to the financial upkeep of the house but he refuses to do anything except watch TV or gist with his friends?
Please who is he?
How did you get to know him?
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 10:27pm On Nov 23, 2019
ThothHermes:
No need to get testy.

[s]
You mean his wife also contributes to the financial upkeep of the house but he refuses to do anything except watch TV or gist with his friends?
Please who is he?
How did you get to know him[/s]?
where do you live ? So i can know where to begin with you.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:29pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
where do you live ? So i can know where to begin with you.
Don't see the relevance but I'll bite.
Port Harcourt, Nigeria.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 10:31pm On Nov 23, 2019
ThothHermes:
Don't see the relevance but I'll bite.
Port Harcourt, Nigeria.
so in your port harcourt ,all the men are domesticated in their homes?
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:39pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
so in your port harcourt ,all the men are domesticated in their homes?
Do you want to "domesticate" the man or do you want him to be a co-caretaker?

The theme of your thread was that men who share financial duties with their wives should also share caretaker duties no?

Have you forgotten your OP all of a suddenhuh
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 10:40pm On Nov 23, 2019
ThothHermes:
Do you want to "domesticate" the man or do you want him to be a co-caretaker?

The theme of your thread was that men who share financial duties with their wives should also share caretaker duties no?

Have you forgotten your OP all of a suddenhuh
do you know what being a caretaker entails?
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:44pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
do you know what being a caretaker entails?
Why not educate me?
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 10:47pm On Nov 23, 2019
ThothHermes:
Why not educate me?
you should know since you seem to know that all men in your port harcourt are co-caretakers
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Duggedised12(f): 10:53pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
you should know since you seem to know that all men in your port harcourt are co-caretakers
learn to ignore some comments. Word of advice .
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Ladycewhy(op): 10:55pm On Nov 23, 2019
Duggedised12:
learn to ignore some comments. Word of advice .
noted,thanks.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:56pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
you should know since you seem to know that all men in your port harcourt are co-caretakers
It's obvious you don't know any such man.
Au revoir.
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by ThothHermes: 10:57pm On Nov 23, 2019
Duggedised12:
learn to ignore some comments. Word of advice .
undecided
Re: My Opinion On Feminism by Duggedised12(f): 11:00pm On Nov 23, 2019
Ladycewhy:
noted,thanks.
Dont let these boys get into your head, that is the biggest observation i have made so far. Other than that, good job, and i found your thread on women waking up a very interesting read, kudos.
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