supercase1:

I used to ask these questions too u see d issue u raise is too complex for u to understand for now u need to start understanding the basics of how life sin and death came into this world, and also learn about good Bible characters and try to imitate them by learning their good examples I currently have JW app from playstore on my phone and I swear am in love with their teaching and videos they just speak the truth just give it a try first get their app and start seeing for urselves!!!!!! Bro we must free ourselves from false teachings and indoctrination!!!!!....

You lost me when you wrote, “too complex for you you to understand...”
At the risk of sounding immodest, you use such words when you know who you are responding to.
You do not know me.

safarigirl:


I haven't met a JW person that told me such.

I don't know who they marry and who they don't. Serena Williams is the most prominent JW I know and her husband is not a JW,so, maybe it is the Nigerian branch that is practicing this marriage one. Anything in Nigeria is usually filled with ignorance, so, that is expected

I am not deceiving myself. Even non-Christians regard JW as Christians,so, it is the few extremists living among them that are wallowing in ignorance and self delusion and carving their own personal paths to hellfire on the basis of hate and discrimination.

Excuse you, tell me the concept of hell fire.

omoharry:
Yeye religion.My cousin joined this religion and lost her life becos she & her husband refuse any blood transfusion during her complicated delivery. Now she is dead and life goes on.
They are the most weird and boring people u can ever be with .They are totally cut off from every celebration of life..even muslims pertake birthdays and new year celebration.
They are hypocrite that just like quoting the Bible .They pretend to be holier than others meanwhile they also engage in these devices that they accuse non JW about.I don't like them.

Talking 'bout celebrations, JW do commemorate Jesus' death. Can you cite any bible verse urging us to celebrate Birthdays, New Year or, say Christmas? I'm waiting.
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JW refuse blood transfusions, and yes, there are other acceptable means for one's life sustainability. Please ask me questions.

0ppa:

Excuse you, tell me the concept of hell fire.

You will know with time

ijewejones:


(1)Op why does JW members believe they have nothing to with other denominations?

(2)Why do leave out "prayer" on their first encounter with their converts?

(3)I'm not here to judge but they bleep so well with the "sinners".. (experience is 1st hand)

(1) John 17: 16

(2) John 17:8-9

(3) Luke 7:34

0ppa:

Yes, JW do not join the army. So you must mean it is good suppose a JW soldier in Nigeria war against a JW soldier in Ghana should their countries meet? Where is the love of the neighbour?
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JW believe this world's government is according to God's plan but they will only worship the heavenly government and only pledge allegiance to it and not worldly government.

Your last paragraph is the reason why you should move to heaven ASAP and leave this world.

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madridsta007:



You lost me when you wrote, “too complex for you you to understand...”
At the risk of sounding immodest, you use such words when you know who you are responding to.
You do not know me.

Okay sorry if my choice of statement sounds offensive u see regarding the hour or time we do not know not even Jesus know but the Bible tells us in 1Thessalonians 5:1-6 (u can read it in your private time) that when we hear sudden declaration of peace and security we should know that sudden destruction is upon them u see, Satan gives people of the world false hopes because he know he has a short period of time,a time is coming when leaders of the world will turn up against religion and come together to declare WORLDWIDE PEACE AND SECURITY which might even include nuclear disarmanment,we should be aware at this time that the day of God(JEHOVAH) is around the corner and nearby.we can only wait in fufuilment of this prophecy. Remember the prophecy on Babylon a one-time super power during the time of prophet Isaiah it occurs hundreds of years later after that prophecy and bablylon lies in ruined in outskirts of bagdad mordern day iraq.so no mater how long it takes we shouldn't doubt the BIBLE PROPHECY!!!!

Kyllahmc:
ls Jehovah witness a different Religion? this diversity we have in Christianity is a big problem.
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you see christians trying to convert other christians into Christianity again... because they worship in different Churches.
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You see christians competing with Christians over supremacy like some kind of street war.

Do other sect of Christians see Jehovah's witnesses as Christians ? Please answer the simple question ?

justli:
People wondering why the op says JW instead of the Christians at large, the op know what he says.

Jw believe they are the only true Christmas alive. Every other is doomed.

They don't believe in Jesus Christ as the other Christians do.

They think Jesus is arch angel Michael

They don't believe in body resurrection of Christ.

They don't believe in the holy spirit.

They don't believe in Jesus as God incarnate.

They have their own Bible fashioned to suit their deceit.

They have predicted the coming of Christ twice in the past and failed miserably. Talk about false prophecy.

They believe in salvation by work alone.

They believe you can only understand the Bible under the guidance of their watchtower and awake publications

JW is a cult group deeply shrouded in secrecy.

What translation of the Bible have you? I hope you are aware the Bible were originally written in Hebrews and Greek?

Yemiseun:
I had one as my Landlord then.... This man is Wicked
, people in the community knows himfor his wickedness.
I CALL THEM JEHOVAH WICKEDNESS

You mean there are no wicked men in other denominations? You must mean you have not hurt sb all your life.

farem:


Yes! Their Jesus is not our own who came to die on the Cross for the Salvation of all.

Their holy spirit is not our Holy Spirit. Theirs is an active force, our is the Spirit of God.

The sheddin of the blood of Jesus is of no relevance to them

They reject being born again. Insisting they are not going to heaven. That only 144,000 are the only born again that are going to heaven.

They don't believe in hell fire (eternal and continuous burning of lost souls), rather the lost souls are simply burned off as if one burn refuse (Annihilation)

... �

Quick questions:
* Who is your Jesus?
* Please, do explain what being born again means to you.

sassysure:

If Serena Williams married a non witness, she will be excommunicated. Michael Jackson and family are witnesses. MJ and Janet were excommunicated.
Marrying a non member is non negotiable unless the person converts.
JW is like a cult. They will invite u to their assembly but will never ever honour yours as what u practice is not Christianity according to them anyway

Non Christians regards them as Christians bc that is what they portray to outsiders when preaching and when the need arises. Delve inside and they will quickly tell u that u, the supposed Christian aren't really a Christian
That is where the arguments starts.

They don't have extremists. All witnesses believe the same thing. Once u deviate, u are excommunicated.

Seems u don't know anything about JW at all

Tell me, please, which is the only true denomination.

Owologbo:


Lol. please stop it.
A JW will reject his/her brother, sister, child just because he/she is not a witness.
There was a time some JW witness a kidnapping; with the little girl shouting help, I'm being kidnapped.
The eldest among them told them to keep quiet that the girl is not their member.
After some days/weeks, this little girl came out that her conscience could not let sleep, that she (and her fellow JW while going about their normal preaching) witness the kidnapping taking place, but the eldest among them said they should not call people or tell anyone because the girl is not a JW.
So, if I may ask; is JW truly living what they project to the outside world?

You and I know you just typed this out of hate.

Maximus69:


The answers is capital NO!

Jesus started this movement almost 2,000 years ago, the first 12 members were Jews!

Notice that Israel have been divided into two before Jesus' arrival, the northern ten tribes of Israel is call "Samaria" while the southern two tribes is called "Judah". Read~ John 4:21-22

Jesus chose all his twelve apostles from amongst the Jews, and their names have been written at the twelve gates leading into the most holy place in heaven! Revelations 21:14
This means that nobody can enter into God's presence in heaven without the authorisation from one of Jesus' twelve Apostles!

Please we are still talking about that same Jesus today, his arrangement is not to be viewed from the perspective of a tribalist or nepotist otherwise Samaritans in the first century wouldn't have accepted Christianity!

Today, you might wonder why God's people never had a black president till now. But you can judge for yourself, by considering

Why only white countries are developed?

Why black leaders takes our wealth to them?

Why their place is well organized?

And why our children are running there?

Then try to reason yourself, if you're to employ a managing director in your company as the CEO, between the whites and blacks which will you prefer?

Please don't answer, just keep the answer in your mind!

But be rest assured that the Almighty God and his son Jesus Christ are not going to pick leaders for their global family of peace loving worshippers from amongst those who are not MENTALLY ALERT towards advancement!

God bless you!

So u mean non of the black elders seem qualified, even after putting in all their efforts?

Haha, my bros, it's not fair to us. Don't delve into this argument. Even African governing elders are not happy about that.
No elder of JW will tell u he like the arrangement. It's what it is. Seeing them as not equal. It's like having black pope. Very impossible. There is racism everywhere my dear. White man will still want to rule and dominate especially when it comes to something he created. That is how it is. Politics is everywhere.

I just raised this up because of that post which says JW are not racist.

Won't add to this anymore. Thank u

0ppa:

Quick questions:
* Who is your Jesus?
* Please, do explain what being born again means to you.

I raised more than you mentioned above. I will love you to raise flags on ALL of them and not just two UNLESS you want to admit that you agree with me on them.
Be fast in your response. Thanks

supercase1:

there is no need arguing with u cause I see u just looking for an avenue to blackmail the witnesses not that u are trying to figure out what some of their teaches entails
Goodbye bro!

Your brother just answered the question with capital no.
Though his argument backing it was flawed.
It's better to stick to scriptural arguments than this as it will make people start digging out your dirt.

Idamond:
Jw is not under Christianity they are idols worshippers

Can you mention one idol they venerate to?

supercase1:

Okay sorry if my choice of statement sounds offensive u see regarding the hour or time we do not know not even Jesus know but the Bible tells us in 1Thessalonians 5:1-6 (u can read it in your private time) that when we hear sudden declaration of peace and security we should know that sudden destruction is upon them u see, Satan gives people of the world false hopes because he know he has a short period of time,a time is coming when leaders of the world will turn up against religion and come together to declare WORLDWIDE PEACE AND SECURITY which might even include nuclear disarmanment,we should be aware at this time that the day of God(JEHOVAH) is around the corner and nearby.we can only wait in fufuilment of this prophecy. Remember the prophecy on Babylon a one-time super power during the time of prophet Isaiah it occurs hundreds of years later after that prophecy and bablylon lies in ruined in outskirts of bagdad mordern day iraq.so no mater how long it takes we shouldn't doubt the BIBLE PROPHECY!!!!

Not sure why you are writing this Epistle.

It is needless.

JW have, in the past made predictions of the world ending. I know of two of those times because I lived in those times.

Both turned out false.
FALSE.

False because, Jesus has said, quite clearly, that it is only the Father that knows when.
It is in the Bible.

Of course you know this. Hence this Epistle which you’ve written to counter it. It doesn’t take it away though.

Seems like predictions appear to have stopped for now. Let us leave it that way.

quirus:


They are preaching heresy, all their claims about the heavenly kingdom is wrong.
Their leader fashioned for them a fake bible to support a fake biblical principles which is turning his adherents blind.

They have better read the true and the universal Bible and see the truth therein and turn from their heretical and they will end up in that Sheol which they are denying.

Do you know the original bible manuscripts were written in Hebrew and Greek? Which translation do you have that you deem 'universal?'

livebyday:


Sorry but I have to disagree

I am not one but I can tell you Jehovah's witnesses are the most disciplined,kind, respectful and warmest version of Christianity you can find in this world ..

They are devoid of all the falsehood you find in winners, or redeemed or Christ embassy or chosen etc

Jehovah's witnesses just make you feel at peace with them even as a none member

I feel they are the closest a human can come to being Christ like

The only reason I never joined.them is I just can't agree on not giving blood transfusion or celebrating birthdays

Cheers

JW obey Bible counsels, and do you know what the Bible says about blood?
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* Do you know that there is nowhere in the Bible where we are instructed to celebrate birthdays, neither New Years nor was Jesus even born on Christmas?
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These celebration are rooted to paganism and JWs reject anything not inspired of Jehovah God.
Please ask me questions.

Nnamebuka:

Hear yourself hanty. They do not have love for others yet at the expense of their time, resources, comfort, rest etc under the sun and rain they are going to house to house, street to street, city to city preaching and teaching the same people they allegedly do not love without any form of inducement from them.

how e dey do you ma?

If I have time for religion jw is sure bet me.

Well, they do it because it's like an indoctrination and is somehow forced among them to do this... This I say from being around them for a long while. Just they harp on it to their followers right from inception.
It ain't bad though.

farem:


I raised more than you mentioned above. I will love you to raise flags on ALL of them and not just two UNLESS you want to admit that you agree with me on them.
Be fast in your response. Thanks

If you will be civil, do create a new topic, ask all your questions, then tag me. I'll gladly answer all and prospective ones. I'm open for discussion.

Nuliberry:
Someone's child died just a few days ago, d child needed blood ,doctors told parents that's d next line of treatment nd very urgent and the parents refused transfusion for him on d basis they are JW members.... Their only son, they watched him gave up, I felt so pained when I heard d news.
Since then I hv bn asking myself,d real basis for ds belief.....
*can someone experienced in this explain, no insults/abuse please having in mind it's someone's belief and people involved are still mourning, thank u*

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It takes great faith to obey God. Acts 5:29.
Yahweh commanded Abraham to sacrifice his only begotten son, Isaac, did HE not know that Abraham's obedience will cost the life of his son? why did Abraham obey God? He had solid faith in the resurrection
Hebrew 11:17-19. Luke9:23,24.
May Jehovah console the bereaved family as our hope in the resurrection is solid.
Isaiah 25:8. Rev21:3-5. John5:28,29. 11:23-26.
* God forbids eating of blood..
Blood transfusions amounts to eating of blood Intravenously.
.Acts 15:22,28,29. Lev17:13,14. Gen9:3,4.
** My true life experience....

My uncle is not JW,his daughter was diagnosed with a serious medical condition and she was admitted in the hospital for 2 good months.

In the course of her treatment, she received massive amounts of blood transfusions and other medications.
You know what happened? She died. If she was a JW, haters will claim she refused "life saving blood transfusions."

Roughly 3 years ago, a visited a relative whose child was admitted in hospital ,several times.
In the course of two weeks, 4 children died in the Children's Ward during that period even though all were received blood transfusions which has been labeled "life saving."
What will people say, if their parents were JW?
* Life saving blood transfusion is a myth*.
(Arthur Ashe is among the numerous proofs.)
Bloodless medical treatment is better option & JWs wholeheartedly embrace it
https://sharing.mayoclinic.org/2017/10/26/open-heart-surgery-achieves-success-without-blood-transfusions/

** Love for Jehovah & obedience to HIM is Paramount. Mark12:29, Jesus Christ obedience cost him his life but he regained it. Luke9:23,24, likewise JWs. Our hope in the resurrection is solid. We are not fairweather Christians. God's promises are trustworthy. Rev 21:3-5. Numbers 23:19.

0ppa:

Talking 'bout celebrations, JW do commemorate Jesus' death. Can you cite any bible verse urging us to celebrate Birthdays, New Year or, say Christmas? I'm waiting.
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JW refuse blood transfusions, and yes, there are other acceptable means for one's life sustainability. Please ask me questions.

ur stupid religious belief about blood transfusion ended her life.she would have been Alive today had she not join ur yeye religion.I don't know what she found in JW.Now the husband is remarried..life goes on.pls don't quote me again.bye

0ppa:

Gentleman,
Can not a horse be taken to the stream and yet not drink? JW look out for deserving ones who welcome the goodnews, and preach to neighbours because of love and not for dishonest gain.

First of all, the terms deserving one is a loaded language. Every group have they own loaded language. To a Jw, it means someone who accept their messages without questioning it. Who accepts everything said hook, line and sinker. That person is deserving. However, we do know that anyone who is good enough, who possess tough questions with solid reasoning , who meets the JWs in their own game of twist and turning, someone who is well grounded in the bible isn't quickly shaken from the faith, will definitely be counted as a conversational stopper, undeserving and likely an opposer.

Second and to the most important point I need to make is. Every organisation is interested in its self preservation. A religious organisation is really invested in its self preservation. And there are 2 important ways.
1. Recruitment
2. Money.
Each of these are practiced by Watchtower. Current statistics shows that it is increasingly difficult for JWs to recruit outsiders, so their greatest recruitment drives is on children. Children of their members.

On finances, a JWs can preach all his life without a single convert. But each month, he will have an envelop filled with cash to turn into the box. Imagine a population of 50 people turning in 500 every month times 12 months.
50*500*12 =300k

Some can be more, Others less. You may also have realised that before JWs became a religion, it was a business. One of their primary source of revenue is door to door preaching and offering their publications. Of course, members, the rank and file are always told the whitewash version of it, that they are fulfilling a special role by going door to door... But within the hierarchy, stop door knocking and offering the publications and they have a serious trouble running the religion as they are likely to lose more than 50% of their revenue.

Of course, you will say, the publications are without charge, etc. That the "small money" you get cannot cover the cost of publications. The trick is in mass production. Mass produce and the cost comes down.

So you have the inner workings up there. It's all about self preservation. To succeed, money and new recruit is paramount.

Maximus69:


I have had a one on one conversation on this forum with shadeyinka!

Initially he thought he's got what it takes to engage a witness in a debate, but at last he ended up referring to me as "PIOUS"!

He learnt a bitter lesson through our one on one discuss that Jehovah's Witnesses can silence them anytime anywhere with higher intellect! Isaiah 54:17

Just ask him to present the thread to you,
He initially called it's Topic

"note"

and later he changed it to

"Discussion between a Christian and a Jehovah's Witness"

His motive was to call the attention of other MISINFORMED churchgoers like him to join in the discuss!

Please as you read through the thread, notice~

How each of us makes use of the Bible.
The way we presented our teachings.
The practical application.
And the benefits that's to be expected.

I wish you do a proper quote of how you were referred to as "pius" and the context rather than coming here on NL to lie as usual!

Bitter lesson!? LOL!
Let God and my conscience be the judge of that!

We know who you resemble with your lies!

0ppa:

Do you know the original bible manuscripts were written in Hebrew and Greek? Which translation do you have that you deem 'universal?'

Have you ever read the KJV Bible, which is the first universal Bible for the English speaking people, and compare it with your own JW Bible?

Please do and you will know the Truth and it will set you free.

Also forget about the whole Bible being written in the Hebrew and Greek languages, every Bible scholars know about that. And moreso all the existing Bible versions were translated from these original texts, including yours.

Also, that sacred Word Yahweh or Yehovah or Jehovah means The LORD GOD, so your JW version mentioning the sacred name all through does not change anything, it is the same I AM THAT I AM. GLORY BE TO HIS HOLY NAME.

Kindly visit spiritlessons.com site and gets spiritual books for your enlightenment. Remember common religious adherence or sect will not get you to heaven (be it Catholics or Orthodox or Pentecostal or JW), it is your personal relationship with the LORD that will open the gates of HEAVEN to you.

supercase1:

Oga it's up to u!!!!!! Today there are so many prophets performing signs and wonders they don't even bother to tell members about the good news of the kingdom just as Jesus preached during his time only thing they preach about is prosperity, wealth, and ability to dominate, in a world that been influnced by Satan antics,? U won't understand until u claim down, ask urself questions of what a true Christianity entails!!!! get their JW app on playstore compare and contrast listen to their argument or explanation when they come to u, then it's up to you to make your choice

All your rants is just about a "JW app" with the sole intent of converting me from a Disciple of Christ to a disciple of your organisation.
Sorry!
It can't werk!

shadeyinka:

I wish you do a proper quote of how you were referred to as "pius" and the context rather than coming here on NL to lie as usual!

Bitter lesson!? LOL!
Let God and my conscience be the judge of that!

We know who you resemble with your lies!

The guy can twist and turn what you said upside down. When boxed to a corner, he quickly change topic to the something more convenient.

0ppa:

You and I know you just typed this out of hate.

nope. why should I?
I think it will be better if you tell they acted that way, not because of them being JWs.

0ppa:

JW obey Bible counsels, and do you know what the Bible says about blood?
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* Do you know that there is nowhere in the Bible where we are instructed to celebrate birthdays, neither New Years nor was Jesus even born on Christmas?
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These celebration are rooted to paganism and JWs reject anything not inspired of Jehovah God.
Please ask me questions.

I have had numerous discussions with witnesses and understand the perspective but I still disagree with certain things

Now where is it said in the Bible that you should take cocaine but or smoke weed or change your gender but as a well adjusted adult in society one is meant to know what's not right ...

You can't live your life based on the doctrines 100% because somethings are just plain common sense

I know now where does it say celebrate birthdays or marriage anniversary but I want to celebrate my kids birthday when i have a child in future

I want to give my.blood if needed to save someone's life

So I don't need to ask you anything because I have sat and discussed with witnesses over a 100 different occasions whenever they come knocking infact I have close friends who are witnesses but I just don't agree with certain things

Just as I don't agree that our Lord Jesus came to die for mankind's sins that to me is plain suicide and contradictory to alot in the Bible

I believe he came to show us the way to live but the devil cut short his mission by murder using humans to betray and murder him

Hence the prayer at the point of his death father forgive them for they know not what they do..
Meaning a grave sin was committed hence the need for prayer to God to forgive mankind , meaning he was unjustly being murdered

Anyways I digress

Cheers