Born2Freak:



The same catholic church that compiled the very bible that you are using?

Sorry to disappoint you, I don't use any Catholic-compiled bible.

shadeyinka:

Why confess like a witch when no one asked you any question?

Liars always hide truth under volumes of needless information!

That's why i told you boldly that you're NOT my brother, you can't be my brother and you can never be my brother {Matthew 12:46-50}
Because you said it publicly that you only meet together with people for worship that's not binding on you!

My own organization has defines me Sir!

So you and i have no case!

The highest place been a christian will take you to is JERUSALEM but if you follow CHRIST ,HEAVEN IS SURE

Maximus69:


That's why i told you boldly that you're NOT my brother, you can't be my brother and you can never be my brother {Matthew 12:46-50}
Because you said it publicly that you only meet together with people for worship that's not binding on you!

My own organization has defines me Sir!

So you and i have no case!

I wish you understand the scriptures!
See how you are spewing out venom from your mouth my brother. It is not healthy for you.

Only Jesus defines me and no organisation

rottennaija:


Not just the past alone. They are still making it and it will fail as always. Doomsday religion like Jw are in the business of making end of the world prediction.

The trick for them is, without the doomsday prediction, they can't create a sense of urgency among their members to recruit and make more members and also money in the process. So they need to make more predictions.

In the past, they use dates. Today, they use the livespan of their present leaders saying these leaders have fulfilled a special prophecy in the bible and the world will end before they all die. That way, they create a strong sense of urgency among members. Its the same trick all over. These leaders will also die and nothing will happen, which will force them to invent new messages to keep their sheep docile. They call it overlapping generation.

Don't go too far........... you only need to look for the reference for the below........

During the great tribulation, a change will take place regarding the BROTHERS who take the lead on earth. At some point, all ANOINTED ONES who are still on earth will be gathered to heaven to share in the war of Armageddon. (Matt. 24:31; Rev. 2:26, 27) This means that the GOVERNING BODY will no LONGER be with us on EARTH. However, the GREAT CROWD will remain ORGANIZED. capable BROTHERS from among the OTHER SHEEP (you might want to INSERT.........HELPERS to THE GOVERNING BODY in THERE) will take the LEAD. We will need to show our LOYALTY by SUPPORTING these BROTHERS and by following their God-given DIRECTION. Our SURVIVAL will DEPEND on IT!

Before, salvation rested on direction of JESUS BROTHERS signified by the ANOINTED GOVERNING BODY. Very SOON SURVIVAL/SALVATION depends on NON ANOINTED CHRISTIANS signified by the HELPERS to the GOVERNING BODY.


The message is HERE already............

0ppa:

Nice post.
Which denomination are doing God's will today?

Oga Oppa, did Jesus Christ asked you to preach or look for DENOMINATIONS that are DOING GOD'S WILL TODAY?

and what is the GOD'S WILL under CONSIDERATION here? Feel free to share.

shadeyinka:

I wish you understand the scriptures!
See how you are spewing out venom from your mouth my brother. It is not healthy for you.

Only Jesus defines me and no organisation

When I see this your last sentence this verse of the bible comes to mind

1 Corinthians 8:1-3With regard to food sacrificed to idols, we know that “we all have knowledge.” Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. 2 If someone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know to the degree that he needs to know. 3 BUT IF SOMEONE LOVES GOD, HE IS KNOWN BY GOD.

Loving GOD is not dependent on the DENOMINATIONS one is a MEMBER, the reason I want to see this your comment that YOUR DENOMINATION do not DEFINE you as something others SHOULD ponder.

achorladey:



Oga Oppa, did Jesus Christ asked you to preach or look for DENOMINATIONS that are DOING GOD'S WILL TODAY?

and what is the GOD'S WILL under CONSIDERATION here? Feel free to share.

Of course, Jesus instructed us to preach (the task he commanded his disciples to). Read it here:Matt. 24:14., 28:19. He also showed one beautiful sign true followers of him will be recognized: if they have love amongst one another and emulate him. Jesus preached about God's kingdom and taught his early disciples to do the same. (Mat 6:5, 10).
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Who are preaching this kingdom today?

achorladey:


When I see this your last sentence this verse of the bible comes to mind

1 Corinthians 8:1-3With regard to food sacrificed to idols, we know that “we all have knowledge.” Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up. 2 If someone thinks he knows something, he does not yet know to the degree that he needs to know. 3 BUT IF SOMEONE LOVES GOD, HE IS KNOWN BY GOD.

Loving GOD is not dependent on the DENOMINATIONS one is a MEMBER, the reason I want to see this your comment that YOUR DENOMINATION do not DEFINE you as something others SHOULD ponder.

See a hypocrite preaching love while the deep hatred is will no allow him to see that a neighbor is a brother. A neighbor is anyone you have a potential to interact with.

My brother, since your organisation is your standard and not the words of Jesus Christ. I'll be surprised if you'll consider the words of Christ and do likewise.

Mar 12:31: "And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

Luk 10:29-37:
"But he, willing to justify himself, said to Jesus, And who is my neighbor? And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said to him, Take care of him; and whatever you spend more, when I come again, I will repay you. Which now of these three, think you, was neighbor to him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that showed mercy on him. Then said Jesus to him, Go, and do you likewise."

shadeyinka:

See a hypocrite preaching love while the deep hatred is will no allow him to see that a neighbor is a brother. A neighbor is anyone you have a potential to interact with.

My brother, since your organisation is your standard and not the words of Jesus Christ. I'll be surprised if you'll consider the words of Christ and do likewise.

Mar 12:31: "And the second is like, namely this, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. There is none other commandment greater than these."

Luk 10:29-37:
"But he, willing to justify himself, said to Jesus, And who is my neighbor? And Jesus answering said, A certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among thieves, which stripped him of his raiment, and wounded him, and departed, leaving him half dead. And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side. And likewise a Levite, when he was at the place, came and looked on him, and passed by on the other side. But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him, And went to him, and bound up his wounds, pouring in oil and wine, and set him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn, and took care of him. And on the morrow when he departed, he took out two pence, and gave them to the host, and said to him, Take care of him; and whatever you spend more, when I come again, I will repay you. Which now of these three, think you, was neighbor to him that fell among the thieves? And he said, He that showed mercy on him. Then said Jesus to him, Go, and do you likewise."

Perhaps you don't understand my post....... my point is to support the last part of your post I quoted read again!


shadeyinka: Only Jesus defines me and no organisation.

Achorladey: BUT IF SOMEONE LOVES GOD, HE IS KNOWN BY GOD.

Its not the ORGANIZATION that determines who GOD KNOWS. I hope you understand where I am headed as regards you saying "YOUR CHURCH DO NOT DEFINE YOU"

achorladey:


Don't go too far........... you only need to look for the reference for the below........

During the great tribulation, a change will take place regarding the BROTHERS who take the lead on earth. At some point, all ANOINTED ONES who are still on earth will be gathered to heaven to share in the war of Armageddon. (Matt. 24:31; Rev. 2:26, 27) This means that the GOVERNING BODY will no LONGER be with us on EARTH. However, the GREAT CROWD will remain ORGANIZED. capable BROTHERS from among the OTHER SHEEP (you might want to INSERT.........HELPERS to THE GOVERNING BODY in THEIR) will take the LEAD. We will need to show our LOYALTY by SUPPORTING these BROTHERS and by following their God-given DIRECTION. Our SURVIVAL will DEPEND on IT!

Before, salvation rested on direction of JESUS BROTHERS signified by the ANOINTED GOVERNING BODY. Very SOON SURVIVAL/SALVATION depends on NON ANOINTED CHRISTIANS signified by the HELPERS to the GOVERNING BODY.


The message is HERE already............

Well, what can I say? They have them locked down.

0ppa:

Of course, Jesus instructed us to preach (the task he commanded his disciples to). Read it here:Matt. 24:14., 28:19. He also showed one beautiful sign true followers of him will be recognized: if they have love amongst one another and emulate him. Jesus preached about God's kingdom and taught his early disciples to do the same. (Mat 6:5, 10).
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Who are preaching this kingdom today?

I don't want to believe you gave me that as an answer to my question. What DENOMINATIONS did Jesus Christ preached about that they are doing GOD'S WILL?

What is the GOD'S WILL all about?

That I have to repeat that question tells me you have not answered.

You are citing verses and chapters of scriptures bring it out let us all read

I have answered you; you just have to bring out your bible and read them.

achorladey:


I don't want to believe you gave me that as an answer to my question. What DENOMINATIONS did Jesus Christ preached about that they are doing GOD'S WILL?

What is the GOD'S WILL all about?

That I have to repeat that question tells me you have not answered.

You are citing verses and chapters of scriptures bring it out let us all read

0ppa:
I have answered you; you just have to bring out your bible and read them.

Firstly, Matthews 24:14 tells about the numerous signs Jesus gave about a QUESTION posed by the disciples as captured in Matthew 24:3. When Jesus got to Matthew 24:14 Jesus CHRIST didn't state this will be an IDENTIFYING FACTOR of THOSE DOING GOD'S WILL. Its only a SIGN alongside all OTHERS he gave before he GOT to Matthew 24:14

Next up Matthew 28:19........... he gave the disciples instructions to PREACH and TEACH he didn't add that if you do THIS YOU are MY DISCIPLES.

oppa: He also showed ONE beautiful sign TRUE FOLLOWERS of him will be recognized: if they have love amongst one another and emulate him.

Achorladey: Now you are talking John 13:35 said so clearly. We all have to follow his steps. Correct.

oppa: Who are preaching this kingdom today?

Achorladey: The question is not WHO ARE PREACHING the KINGDOM today?

The question was are we ASKED TO PREACH WHICH DENOMINATION is doing GODS WILL TODAY and WHAT is that GODS WILL? Don't forget it's your QUESTION. My added poser was IS the PREACHING about the DENOMINATION doing GOD'S WILL? Don't change it to KINGDOM?

0ppa:

I incite you to be discreet! Would not you look up sth before starting a blind argument? You must mean King, Queen, Lord, Goddess, Prince are also names.

Where is the bible verse that said lord God is a title? Abi e no dey?
What is the meaning of jehovah?

achorladey:


Perhaps you don't understand my post....... my point is to support the last part of your post I quoted read again!


shadeyinka: Only Jesus defines me and no organisation.

Achorladey: BUT IF SOMEONE LOVES GOD, HE IS KNOWN BY GOD.

Its not the ORGANIZATION that determines who GOD KNOWS. I hope you understand where I am headed as regards you saying "YOUR CHURCH DO NOT DEFINE YOU"

In other words, if perchance or somehow my organisation (my local church denomination) decided in future to adopt something's not of Christ, I am in no way obliged to follow them because Jesus and His words define me.

This is consistent with:
Gal 1:8:
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed."

If the apostles of Christ can say this, how much more an organisation run by men less than the apostles of Christ?

The only reason why an organisation should be followed as a final authority is when we are certain that they are infallible or they are our God.

I know you love and respect your organisation, but they shouldn't define you. Only Christ and His words should define you.

Let everything about us hinge on the centrality of Christ Jesus, His words and fellowship with Him

Phil 3:10-16:
"That I may know him , and the power of his resurrection , and the fellowship of his sufferings , being made conformable to his death ; If by any means I might attain to the resurrection of the dead. Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus. Brothers, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth to those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing you be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this to you. Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing."

supercase1:
*PEACEFUL GROUP: witnesses are always law abiding u don't see them fight, riot, steal or perpetuate social disorder unlike some religious groups in our country whose trademarks are violence and interrifts

*NO RACISM AMONG THEM: JW are found in over 276 countries, witnesses are the only true people with a true sense of global unity, a witness from Russia would readily host a witness from Mali just as he would do to his blood brother, or a white witness member would host a black witness member just as a United family. There is no form of racism or tribal discriminations among witnesses

PREACHING THE GOSPEL: witnesses are always active preaching the gospel about God kingdom as Jesus always preached while he was on earth, unlike most religious leaders today that preach about prosperity and money forgetting the main mission giving by Jesus which states AND THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM WOULD BE PREACHED TO ALL INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH, AND THEN THE END WILL COME

You see, witnesses are the only Christian group doing Jesus and God will on earth

I attended three of their Love Never Fail conventions this year in different locations around the globe.No police officer no special seat for anybody no special dress for anybody. No police officers or security agents with thousand in attendance. I was impressed with all I saw. Though they are not perfect and they can make mistakes , they are organised disciplined and focused Christians.

supercase1:
*PEACEFUL GROUP: witnesses are always law abiding u don't see them fight, riot, steal or perpetuate social disorder unlike some religious groups in our country whose trademarks are violence and interrifts

*NO RACISM AMONG THEM: JW are found in over 276 countries, witnesses are the only true people with a true sense of global unity, a witness from Russia would readily host a witness from Mali just as he would do to his blood brother, or a white witness member would host a black witness member just as a United family. There is no form of racism or tribal discriminations among witnesses

PREACHING THE GOSPEL: witnesses are always active preaching the gospel about God kingdom as Jesus always preached while he was on earth, unlike most religious leaders today that preach about prosperity and money forgetting the main mission giving by Jesus which states AND THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM WOULD BE PREACHED TO ALL INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH, AND THEN THE END WILL COME

You see, witnesses are the only Christian group doing Jesus and God will on earth

. I attended three of their Love Never Fail conventions this year in different locations around the globe.No police officer no special seat for anybody no special dress for anybody. No police officers or security agents with thousand in attendance. I was impressed with all I saw. Though they are not perfect and they can make mistakes , they are organised disciplined and focused Christians.

Look at your life; sumtymes i wonder if some people undergo sum kind of mental issues before coming to narialand to post trash..You tend to make your only selfish self to feel good while making others look bad but the reverse is the case now coz is backfiring you now. JW is a Christian religion or sum kind of new found faith under christianity but doesn't want the hash tag christians You see my problem with JW members; they only think supremacy over other religion but when u get in contact with them in their neighborhood, u will be force to chase them away when they come knocking on your door. #Hypocrites

shadeyinka:

I wish you understand the scriptures!
See how you are spewing out venom from your mouth my brother. It is not healthy for you.

Only Jesus defines me and no organisation

That's what i detest Sir!

I'm your neighbor NOT your brother!

Jesus had a mother, brothers and sisters yet he denied them PUBLICLY! Matthew 12:46-50

If Jesus could deny his own blood brothers and sisters including his own mother PUBLICLY simply because they failed to agree with his religious beliefs, please in what way are you my brother?
Tori Olorun!

Saint52:
Being a JW from 1yr -18yr is the best gift anyone can give his kids

And after 18years?

Maximus69:


That's what i detest Sir!

I'm your neighbor NOT your brother!

Jesus had a mother, brothers and sisters yet he denied them PUBLICLY! Matthew 12:46-50

If Jesus could deny his own blood brothers and sisters including his own mother PUBLICLY simply because they failed to agree with his religious beliefs, please in what way are you my brother?
Tori Olorun!

??
It's not strange that you always misinterprete the scriptures

Full Definition
de·nied; de·ny·ing
transitive verb
1 : to declare untrue denied the allegation
2 : to refuse to admit or acknowledge : disavow denied responsibility for the vandalism
3 a : to give a negative answer to denying the petitioners
b : to refuse to grant deny a request was denied a refund
c : to restrain (oneself) from gratification of desires deny himself the foods that he loves
4 archaic : decline
5 : to refuse to accept the existence, truth, or validity of There's no denying her expertise. You can't deny that he's a good singer.

Mat 12:46-50:
"While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said to him, Behold, your mother and your brothers stand without, desiring to speak with you. But he answered and said to him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brothers? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brothers! For whoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."

Jesus denied his mother is I and at the cross he said:
John 19:26-27:
"When Jesus therefore saw his mother , and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he said to his mother, Woman, behold your son! Then said he to the disciple, Behold your mother! And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home."

shadeyinka:

??
It's not strange that you always misinterprete the scriptures

Full Definition
de·nied; de·ny·ing
transitive verb
1 : to declare untrue denied the allegation
2 : to refuse to admit or acknowledge : disavow denied responsibility for the vandalism
3 a : to give a negative answer to denying the petitioners
b : to refuse to grant deny a request was denied a refund
c : to restrain (oneself) from gratification of desires deny himself the foods that he loves
4 archaic : decline
5 : to refuse to accept the existence, truth, or validity of There's no denying her expertise. You can't deny that he's a good singer.

Mat 12:46-50:
"While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brothers stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said to him, Behold, your mother and your brothers stand without, desiring to speak with you. But he answered and said to him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brothers? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brothers! For whoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."

Jesus denied his mother is I and at the cross he said:
John 19:26-27:
"When Jesus therefore saw his mother , and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he said to his mother, Woman, behold your son! Then said he to the disciple, Behold your mother! And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home."

You people just wish Jesus is what you wish him to be instead of accepting who he really is!

Jesus said PUBLICLY "I came to DIVIDE families" Matthew 10:34-36

And he PUBLICLY denied his own mother because she disagreed with his religious beliefs! Mark 3:21

The later account where Jesus asked John (one of his Apostles) to take Mary as his mother is in line with what Jesus taught them. John 13:34-35
Because by that time, Mary has become a Christian and definitely Jesus' brothers and sisters must have disown their mother for accepting the faith whose adherents has been declared "infidels" among the Jews! John 9:22, Act 24:5

Just humble yourself to learn who our master is for real, he is NOT what people think he is.
If you don't learn who he is from us, you'll find it really difficult to know what Christianity truly means.
In fact that's why all of you are confused regarding the group practicing Christianity!

Maximus69:


You people just wish Jesus is what you wish him to be instead of accepting who he really is!

Jesus said PUBLICLY "I came to DIVIDE families" Matthew 10:34-36

And he PUBLICLY denied his own mother because she disagreed with his religious beliefs! Mark 3:21

The later account where Jesus asked John (one of his Apostles) to take Mary as his mother is in line with what Jesus taught them. John 13:34-35
Because by that time, Mary has become a Christian and definitely Jesus' brothers and sisters must have disown their mother for accepting the faith whose adherents has been declared "infidels" among the Jews! John 9:22, Act 24:5

Just humble yourself to learn who our master is for real, he is NOT what people think he is.
If you don't learn who he is from us, you'll find it really difficult to know what Christianity truly means.
In fact that's why all of you are confused regarding the group practicing Christianity!

For a person who doesn't care about the truth, you can continue!

Thanks Sir!

shadeyinka:

For a person who doesn't care about the truth, you can continue!

ImaIma1:


And after 18years?

After 18, one's is fully equipped to live a fulfilled life. I invite you too congregate with me.

Saint52:
Being a JW from 1yr -18yr is the best gift anyone can give his kids

So that when the need for blood transfusion arises to prevent death you refuse so that dey die instead so they can wake up in the paradise earth inside your head/imagination and inside watchtower magazines.

Best gift indeed.

JMAN05:


It seems you are missing something. They believe in Jesus Christ.

When they preach that their governing body are the only channel of communication between God and man today?

The same people preach that governing body and anointed Christians at are the mediators between jehovah and the ones that will live on the paradise earth they imagine.

They have bypassed Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit self.

I have them in my house
They only love there fellow witness, if your there brother and not a member, they will never care about you if you want to die you can and go to hell too
They are peaceful in the society yes
But not true Christians

maximunimpact:


What's your point exactly?

Your education is pathetic, give a nursery kid to translate if you don't understand.

baysol:

Your education is pathetic, give a nursery kid to translate if you don't understand.

In that case you are d ignorant fellow here, u fell for some bunch of Americans who told u they were selected as faithful and desecrate slave in 1919 based on Jesus coming in 1914 which never happened. Who is ignorant here?

maximunimpact:


In that case you are d ignorant fellow here, u fell for some bunch of Americans who told u they were selected as faithful and desecrate slave in 1919 based on Jesus coming in 1914 which never happened. Who is ignorant here?

The bunch of Americans who claims to be the faithful and discrete slave in 1914 are no more on earth today!

Well Jesus claimed so many things about his relationship with the Almighty God! John 10:30

The Jews objected vehemently to so many things he said majority of his followers even deserted him{John 6:64-66}, they planned to kill Jesus and they succeeded, but what the scriptures promised that will occur in connection with those whom the Messiah will given the power of God's holy spirit {Joel 2:28} was evident when the Christians began operating!

Jesus was NO MORE PHYSICALLY operating with them, but nobody can deny (with what was happening through the ministry of the Christians) that their claim that Jesus has been raised from the dead was a lie! Act 3:12-16

Today those Americans who claimed that Jesus came INVISIBLY and chose them as the faithful and discrete slave are NO MORE PHYSICALLY operating with Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide. But let's compare the two scenarios!

The Jews who denied that Jesus can't be the promised Messiah(Christ), their descendants are still hoping that another prophet will come as the Christ, their own scriptures is just the 39 books from Genesis to Malachi. Whereas throughout the earth, billions of Bibles (Complete from Genesis to Revelations) has been printed and distributed in hundreds of languages! So that the Jews are no more relevant as far as pure worship is concerned!

Those Americans asserted that Jesus appointed them in 1919, all other religionists claiming Christians discarded the idea. Today all those religions are still operating but they can't stand side by side with those operating under the arrangement set by the 1919 Americans, their members can't preach and teach effectively like Jehovah's Witnesses, their teachings is not grounded in the minds of their followers like Jehovah's Witnesses, there is no strong bond in their midst like Jehovah's Witnesses, when talking of the religion to think of FIRST as pace setters in Christianity people always remember Jehovah's Witnesses!

Well, i'll say "even if those Americans aren't here today to defend their seemingly wrong assertions, Jehovah's Witnesses globally are enough proof that something truly occurred in 1919!"