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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by ikuruDavid: 4:12pm On Dec 09, 2019
Army remain no.1
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by tiswell(m): 5:03pm On Dec 09, 2019
AntiWailer:
DSS.


They are more equipped.

They can arrest Army officers but an army officer cant arrest DSS officer.
Keep quiet if you don't have anything sensible to say.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Thurifer: 5:08pm On Dec 09, 2019
HarunaWest:

lol...DSS civilian ke...If soldier go DSS training make I hear say he no confirm.....A DSS that is trained to take a bullet whereas army is taught to return fire...Except recent recruitments into the service, in terms of intellects and tactics, you shud compare the DSS to NIA or EFCC and not NA

U don't know what u are saying.
*The DSS are trained on Defence Tactics and protection of Subject or Assetswhile the Military are trained on both Defence and Attacking Tactics (And of recent years now, they are trained on HOSTAGE RESCUE MISSION)
*The DSS are the A-List of the biggest agency in terms of Defence Info, Intel, and Commencement (more of office agents) while the Military are the Defence Body that secure externals from the country (Field Agency)
*I Would have love to enlighten u more but to cut the long coaching short, in terms of COMMAND, POWER and AUTHORITY... MILITARY is the highest Order. Be Guided �
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by SmartyPants(m): 5:16pm On Dec 09, 2019
J111333:
Mr Man shut up, you don't know anything about military.
Do you think military starts and ends with those personnel you see on road blocks at Enugu Onitsha freeway?

In the States, FBI and Secret Service are just retirement or resting place for tough Marines and Navy Seals who want to remain active after service. Even with numerous Secret Sevice agents, US President can't step an inch without making sure that US Marines are near him all the time.


Wrong.

The Secret Service recruits exclusively from the military which means their officers by default are at least on a par with the best special forces officers. Secondly, there are no marines guarding the president. That duty is carried out exclusively by the Secret Service and regular Capitol Police.

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by LordAzubuike(f): 5:53pm On Dec 09, 2019
Who dey compare army to dss lol. Army is the most powerful and most feared body in Nigeria . More powerful than their navy and airforce counterparts. . It's a government within the government. I'm not talking about those soldiers standing at roadblocks or the ones boys are beating anyhow in oshodi and Mushin. There are soldiers and there are soldiers. Visit any military establishment and you'll be wowed. The organization and discipline is just crazy. The charisma is on another level.

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by GoodFaith: 5:53pm On Dec 09, 2019
SmartyPants:


Wrong.

The Secret Service recruits exclusively from the military which means their officers by default are at least on a par with the best special forces officers. Secondly, there are no marines guarding the president. That duty is carried out exclusively by the Secret Service and regular Capitol Police.
Sorry Capitol Police doesn't protect the US president
That is one of the major job of the Secret Service and currency issue
Capitol Police protect the Capitol and it members -senators, member of house of representative
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by EricBraven: 6:36pm On Dec 09, 2019
iberu001:


Who says NIA isn't suppose to be among the security details, is there such in the constitution.My bro I'm telling u what I knw .
the DSS are the only one that has that duty as stated in the constitution

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by ocelot2006(m): 7:01pm On Dec 09, 2019
HarunaWest:

lol...DSS civilian ke...If soldier go DSS training make I hear say he no confirm.....A DSS that is trained to take a bullet whereas army is taught to return fire...Except recent recruitments into the service, in terms of intellects and tactics, you shud compare the DSS to NIA or EFCC and not NA

Physical wise, the DSS don't come close to the Army. The later's physical regimen is quite brutal. Intellect wise, the DSS obviously takes it as it is an intelligence service/organization.

Finally, please don't compare DSS to NIA. The NIA is on a whole new level and draws from the very best from the DSS, military, and NPF.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by ocelot2006(m): 7:05pm On Dec 09, 2019
iberu001:


Who says NIA isn't suppose to be among the security details, is there such in the constitution.My bro I'm telling u what I knw .

NIA are not involved in close protection detail in any way. Their's is solely foreign intelligence (espionage). The DSS is the one responsible for close protection details, while the Police SPU (along with DSS agents) counter-assault the outer counter-assault teams in same detail.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by orisa37: 7:11pm On Dec 09, 2019
Both are just abusing their Office
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by ocelot2006(m): 7:12pm On Dec 09, 2019
Thurifer:


U don't know what u are saying.
*The DSS are trained on Defence Tactics and protection of Subject or Assetswhile the Military are trained on both Defence and Attacking Tactics (And of recent years now, they are trained on HOSTAGE RESCUE MISSION)
*The DSS are the A-List of the biggest agency in terms of Defence Info, Intel, and Commencement (more of office agents) while the Military are the Defence Body that secure externals from the country (Field Agency)
*I Would have love to enlighten u more but to cut the long coaching short, in terms of COMMAND, POWER and AUTHORITY... MILITARY is the highest Order. Be Guided �

1) The DSS is PRIMARILY a domestic intelligence agency although it's functions mirrors that of the Isreali Shinbet. However it isn't the only Service trained in defence tactics. The Army's Military Police and the Police's SPU are equally trained.

2) I'm not sure about A list, but if I'm going to place one agency/service as the Top Dog, it will be the NIA, not DSS. Keep in mind that the Army is actually the most influential of the tri-services in the military.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Aboks(m): 7:13pm On Dec 09, 2019
HarunaWest:

lol...DSS civilian ke...If soldier go DSS training make I hear say he no confirm.....A DSS that is trained to take a bullet whereas army is taught to return fire...Except recent recruitments into the service, in terms of intellects and tactics, you shud compare the DSS to NIA or EFCC and not NA

Oga ya lie no get part two

wetin you no sabi no talk

Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by ocelot2006(m): 7:14pm On Dec 09, 2019
bahdpersona:
The DSS is a paramilitary group

The DSS is an Intelligence Organization, not paramilitary.

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by DedeNkem: 7:33pm On Dec 09, 2019
hisexcellency34:
Who commands more fear between the Nigerian Army and the Department of State Services (DSS) ?

Both are incompetent, corrupt, murderous and lawless!
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Thurifer: 7:44pm On Dec 09, 2019
ocelot2006:


1) The DSS is PRIMARILY a domestic intelligence agency although it's functions mirrors that of the Isreali Shinbet. However it isn't the only Service trained in defence tactics. The Army's Military Police and the Police's SPU are equally trained.

2) I'm not sure about A list, but if I'm going to place one agency/service as the Top Dog, it will be the NIA, not DSS. Keep in mind that the Army is actually the most influential of the tri-services in the military.

1.I never said other aren't trained too but the DSS are giving more field trainings like the Military and they are good when it come to the Drafting aspect
2. Among was the word I used meaning they are much (Higher or Lower the DSS) and it isn't on comparison with any Intelligence Agency... It comparison is of FEAR or COMMAND with the ARMY. Talking about influence of the ARMY above the rest Calls should be base on some aspect not you generalizing it E.g: NIGERIA is a country with more Lands than Waters and we do have more threat on Lands that the Waters and knowing fully well that the ARMY are the Defence Force in charge of lands, making them the Power Horse when it comes to the Chain Of Command base on Land Operations. Unlike USA, PHILIPPINE and so where the NAVY are in charge of most of the Operations because they have more threats on the Waters than Lands. Be Guided �

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by babyfaceafrica: 7:59pm On Dec 09, 2019
vertueptime:


Incase u dnt know, the sss was created to forstall military from any coup attempt, they arw that powerful.

and how many couo have they forestall in Nigeria..DSS in naija is political

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Olugbenga1234: 8:06pm On Dec 09, 2019
DSS is fresher
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by vertueptime: 8:25pm On Dec 09, 2019
babyfaceafrica:


and how many couo have they forestall in Nigeria..DSS in naija is political

The thing is u might never know the answer, the chief coupe plotter knew their importance and place them in a counter coup agency, since then have u heard any coup again?

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by vertueptime: 8:26pm On Dec 09, 2019
babyfaceafrica:


and how many couo have they forestall in Nigeria..DSS in naija is political



The thing is u might never know the answer, the chief coupe plotter IBB knew their importance and place them as counter coup agency, since then have u heard any coup again?

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by iberu001(m): 8:27pm On Dec 09, 2019
ocelot2006:


NIA are not involved in close protection detail in any way. Their's is solely foreign intelligence (espionage). The DSS is the one responsible for close protection details, while the Police SPU (along with DSS agents) counter-assault the outer counter-assault teams in same detail.


Says who, I said they are among the security units attached to the President and VP against foreign threat. The DSS primary job is to protect the President,VP and VIP. Let me cite u and example,few years back when Clinton was the president,he was on his way for a function in US when the CIA attached to his security team told his convoy to return back to due to possible attack from Al-Qaeda, so they returned back to WH then they later discovered a bomb underneath a bridge where his convoy have to pass. If not for CIA he might be dead now. So Al Qaeda no be foreign threat abi na domestic. I dey tell u Wetin I knw.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Ashabbiiee: 8:31pm On Dec 09, 2019
I fear DSS more because they are very coded. Your best friend or girlfriend may be a DSS and yiou wont know

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by babyfaceafrica: 8:33pm On Dec 09, 2019
vertueptime:




The thing is u might never know the answer, the chief coupe plotter knew their importance and place them in a counter coup agency, since then have u heard any coup again?

so DSS is forestalling coup in naija,you mean this same DSS?..lolz,the ones dragging sowore in the court,the ones that invade national assembly?...why have they not caught tompolo who fg is finding?..why is shekua still elusive?...sir DSS in naija are the president boys simple!!
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Tobiloba2407: 8:40pm On Dec 09, 2019
iberu001:



Says who, I said they are among the security units attached to the President and VP against foreign threat. The DSS primary job is to protect the President,VP and VIP. Let me cite u and example,few years back when Clinton was the president,he was on his way for a function in US when the CIA attached to his security team told his convoy to return back to due to possible attack from Al-Qaeda, so they returned back to WH then they later discovered a bomb underneath a bridge where his convoy have to pass. If not for CIA he might be dead now. So Al Qaeda no be foreign threat abi na domestic. I dey tell u Wetin I knw.

it happened outside USA, in fact the is a clause in USA constitution that the military and CIA, cannot operate inside the country, the FBI and local enforcement agencies are the orgs to handle any situation, I'm forgetten the legal term
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by millhouse: 9:04pm On Dec 09, 2019
Africankel:
Lol. Funnily I have both as parents. Mum in the Army and Dad in DSS.

We all fear mumsy o. That woman can hit your head with mortar pistol.
hahahahaha
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Folksyharry(m): 9:08pm On Dec 09, 2019
MetaPhysical:
OP,
You are an enemy of society.

Irresponsible youths aspiring to lead the nation to its ruin!

If i were writing this i would ask instead that Nigerians should rate who is more socially responsible and they adore more, not who they fear.


I was sad when I saw the topic. The DSS and army are supposed to protect us from external harm but here we are discussing which one is most feared by Nigerians (who are supposed to feel safe with them around).
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by iberu001(m): 9:24pm On Dec 09, 2019
Tobiloba2407:


it happened outside USA, in fact the is a clause in USA constitution that the military and CIA, cannot operate inside the country, the FBI and local enforcement agencies are the orgs to handle any situation, I'm forgetten the legal term

My bro it's inside US not outside.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by AntiWailer: 9:29pm On Dec 09, 2019
tiswell:
Keep quiet if you don't have anything sensible to say.

Do u feel cool now ?

U feel like u conquered the world ?

That is the sign of being a low life.

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Nobody: 10:42pm On Dec 09, 2019
SmartyPants:


Wrong.

The Secret Service recruits exclusively from the military which means their officers by default are at least on a par with the best special forces officers. Secondly, there are no marines guarding the president. That duty is carried out exclusively by the Secret Service and regular Capitol Police.
Stop spewing rubbish, go to www.usajobs.com and see ads for secret service jobs for all US citizens military or not.
I didnt say Marines guard Trump, I said they are always closeby. Guard job is for Secret Services.
Biko I'm done with this thread. angry

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by vertueptime: 11:14pm On Dec 09, 2019
Yes they are the presidents boys so are brigade of guards, the fiercest army corps, go and read ul why they were setup in the first place and their responsibilities, the military cant do shit with out them in the villa, the ones u see arresting sowore are mere operations staff, when u see the huge masked heavily armed ones ul understand


babyfaceafrica:


so DSS is forestalling coup in naija,you mean this same DSS?..lolz,the ones dragging sowore in the court,the ones that invade national assembly?...why have they not caught tompolo who fg is finding?..why is shekua still elusive?...sir DSS in naija are the president boys simple!!

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Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Tobiloba2407: 12:09am On Dec 10, 2019
iberu001:


My bro it's inside US not outside.

it happened in Philippines, in 1996, president Clinton was going to visit a local politician, and the CIA had intercepted comms of al Qaeda, that a bomb was planted, later the bomb was planted and the us convoy, had taken another route.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by iberu001(m): 12:36am On Dec 10, 2019
Tobiloba2407:


it happened in Philippines, in 1996, president Clinton was going to visit a local politician, and the CIA had intercepted comms of al Qaeda, that a bomb was planted, later the bomb was planted and the us convoy, had taken another route.

Ok I hear u.
Re: DSS And Army: Who Commands More Fear? by Nyceguy92: 3:05am On Dec 10, 2019
MetaPhysical:
OP,
You are an enemy of society.

Irresponsible youths aspiring to lead the nation to its ruin!

If i were writing this i would ask instead that Nigerians should rate who is more socially responsible and they adore more, not who they fear.


I totally agree with you. My thoughts exactly.

The question/thread has all the elements of illiteracy, naivety, and all attributes of an individual who is totally ignorant of what should be the roles and duties of soldiers and other arm-bearing agencies of government in the society.

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