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DMerciful:
Sowore said yes nothing the context of affirmation but that he is understanding Reuben,
for him to continue. He said a lot of yes even when there was no question, just edging Reuben on. Watch your video very well

Reuben Abati : we have seen this (refering to a revolution) happen in Sudan and in Algeria

Sowore: Yes

My question to you is, what happened at the revolution of Sudan and Algeria and how come Reuban Abati specifically use those as reference knowing fully well what happened during those revolutions?

Reuben knew what happened then and so did Sowore. So when Sowore said YES he said so as a affirmation of the outcome he desired from his revolution.

This is common sense. You watch the interview before the comment Reuben made and know why Sowore said yes

You said Sowore deserves to be convicted for intent but you dont believe Bubu should be prosecuted for actually overthrowing a democratically elected govt. Even till now he believe his overthrowing of Shagari's is justified.
So what are we saying? A crime is a crime no matter how long! Has he apologized to the Nigerian people? Was he given a state pardon? By who?

ColonelEmeka:
I see you desire anarchy from treason. Well good enough for most of us, our laws do not take kindly to acts of treason with INTENT to overthrow a democratically elected government. Your emotions cannot change this so cry from now till 200 years, the outcome remains the same

See him dropping names: Jakande, bal bla bla, one would think you are so smart in history and law.

Law, you and your ilks cannot interpret, even your bosses cannot adhere to

How is following the rule of law difficult?

ColonelEmeka:
I try not to mind them when they start getting all emotional and releasing false data.

The entire persons who have ever been charged for Treason in Nigeria from Awolowo to Jakande never enjoyed bail from any court. Some were executed while others got jailed and later pardoned but the fact remains they never got bail and got convicted while in detention.

gidgiddy:
So you think that when this matter resumes in court, and the judge asks for evidence that Sowore was going to overthrow government, they will bring printed outfits with logo? Dont make me laugh. Intention with no action is baseless.

To prove that Sowore wanted to overthrow government, the judge will want to see hard evidence to that effect. No judge is going to send someone to death or life imprisonment because of sentiments expressed in private or on video, the judge knows that a government cannot be overthrown by mere words alone.

If I go about telling people that I'm looking for a woman to rape, and someone records me as I say I want to rape a woman, can the Police arrest and charge for rape?

It is not enough for someone to say they want to commit a crime, they must act on towards committing that crime.

If all the police have on Sowore are videos, leaflets and printed wears, they have nothing

In the case of Sudan, it was people with guns that eventually overthrew government, not the protesters

Men, you must be an impossible fellow!!!

That guy gave you snippets of the law and clearly highlight the word "intends" in red to show you that the constitution regards intention as a fact to hold on to for cases relating to treason. Yet, you keep saying nobody will hold you responsible for saying you're looking for someone to rape.

Let me tell you now, your rape gimmick will land you in trouble if you were to ever try such. You'd be first suspect if anybody reports rape since you've already threatened to commit such. And of course, try saying you'll rape your friend's sister to his face and see whether you'll say anything else before he removes your teeth with jabs.

Hahah. So op you were sent to help clean up Buhari mess?

You opened this account so as to do your dirty work and you chose IPOB name to cut across as not being an agent of APC.

If you don't know what you are doing why don't you use your normal NL account to open this thread?

Na people wey get time dey answer you.

Our image is getting battered, all of you are sitting down there justifying impunity.

Here are the international papers reporting Buhari's government impunity.

I hope some crack head will not tell me that reputed international papers were bribed to carry the story of government's wickedness and impunity

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nigerias-detention-of-journalist-reflects-escalating-media-crackdown-11576509176?mod=e2tw

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-14/nigeria-s-buhari-resurrects-hard-man-habits-to-curb-dissent?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google

DMerciful:
You said Sowore deserves to be convicted for intent but you dony believe Bubu should be prosecuted for actually overthrowing a democratically elected govt. Even till now he believe his overthrowing of Shagari's is justified.
So what are we saying? A crime is a crime no matter how long! Has he apologized to the Nigerian people? What he given a state pardon? By who?

smh and wow to you.

Question: Can a government in power convict itself of the actions that brought them in power?

Know the place of the law before you lament some more please so you would not appear slow.

Nobody stopped any government from charging Buhari to court for Treason when he was no longer Head of state but they could not simply because his government became legally recognized after it succeeded. Do you get it now?

This is totally different from being caught BEFORE you could act.

He is a paid DSS agent, they unleashed many of them on Nairaland, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and elsewhere.

Truth will overcome because we shall not give up our country to evil people who are justifying impunity and wickedness over the rule of law

Hoephase:
Hahah. So op you were sent to help clean up Buhari mess?

You opened this account so as to do your dirty work and you chose IPOB name to cut across as not being an agent of APC.

If you don't know what you are doing why don't you use your normal NL account to open this thread?

Na people wey get time dey answer you.

idid:
Our image is getting battered, all of you are sitting down there justifying impunity.

Here are the international papers reporting Buhari's government impunity.

I hope some crack head will not tell me that reputed international papers were bribed to carry the story of government's wickedness and impunity

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nigerias-detention-of-journalist-reflects-escalating-media-crackdown-11576509176?mod=e2tw

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-14/nigeria-s-buhari-resurrects-hard-man-habits-to-curb-dissent?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google

The people you claim are writing this about Nigeria cannot tolerate half of what Sowore did.

Let me show you how America handles people like Sowore. Below is their law

Do note that they do not also grant bail under such offences

netpro:
@Bold
He already participated in the Presidential election and was comprehensively defeated. So which other "Constitutional" means do you think he wanted to use?

I tire o!

idid:
See him dropping names: Jakande, bal bla bla, one would think you are so smart in history and law.

Law, you and your ilks cannot interpret, even your bosses cannot adhere to

How is following the rule of law difficult?

I think that word must be new to you {Rule of Law} since you fail to know what Judicial Rascality entails

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duncun:
Very easy Anambra wannabe.

Even though you switched from the moniker you used to attack igbos and anything Biafra.

Abum onye igbo. Odika anya na fugi ufu okwaya?

I am bonafide Igbo FYI

Does it shock you? It should

As you can see my Igbo is not Anambra igbo so i am not from Anambra

Legally recognized by who? The Nigerian people or the constitution they suspended? Bubu is afraid of karma because he overthrew Shagari exactly the same time after winning reelection! There has to be retribution!

ColonelEmeka:
smh and wow to you.

Question: Can a government in power convict itself of the actions that brought them in power?

Know the place of the law before you lament some more please so you would not appear slow.

Nobody stopped any government from charging Buhari to court for Treason when he was no longer Head of state but they could not simply because his government became legally recognized after it succeeded. Do you get it now?

This is totally different from being caught BEFORE you could act.

Since you know what the 'Rule of Law' is; you should go and tell the DSS what it is and tell them that Judicial rascality by any DSS member or government official is an affront to the law and shall be duly punished.

ColonelEmeka:
I think that word must be new to you {Rule of Law} since you fail to know what Judicial Rascality entails

DMerciful:
Legally recognized by who? The Nigerian people or the constitution they suspended? Bubu is afraid of karma because he overthrew Shagari exactly the same time after winning reelection! There has to be retribution!

Go and launch the retribution

Life is so easy and it is as easy as you launching a retribution and we will follow you

Since common sense cannot educate you into knowing that Military rule differs from Civilian and they know this which is why they develop their own laws once in power.

If you do not know something this simple then we should not be having this conversation

So you saw only retribution? Yeye dey smell.
If the SSS believes it has a case, why not go to a higher court? Mind you it took a long time after granting Sowore bail before he was released. They could have gone for appeal during that time. You see BH? Retribution for 1966 pogrom.

ColonelEmeka:
Go and launch the retribution

Life is so easy and it is as easy as you launching a retribution and we will follow you

Since common sense cannot educate you into knowing that Military rule differs from Civilian and they know this which is why they develop their own laws once in power.

If you do not know something this simple then we should not be having this conversation

Suffering n smiling in full effect

DMerciful:
So you saw only retribution? Yeye dey smell.
If the SSS believes it has a case, why not go to a higher court? Mind you it took a long time after granting Sowore bail before he was released. They could have gone for appeal during that time. You see BH? Retribution for 1966 pogrom.

the AGF has taken over the case has he not?

Let us see what happens shall we?

Don't bother yourself with this people, they are DSS paid agent.

Just tell them to follow the rule of law, we are practicing democracy not autocracy

To think that they have not even charged Sowore to court yet is beyond reason

DMerciful:
So you saw only retribution? Yeye dey smell.
If the SSS believes it has a case, why not go to a higher court? Mind you it took a long time after granting Sowore bail before he was released. They could have gone for appeal during that time. You see BH? Retribution for 1966 pogrom.

idid:
Don't bother yourself with this people, they are DSS paid agent.

Just tell them to follow the rule of law, we are practicing democracy not autocracy

To think that they have not even charged Sowore to court yet is beyond reason

You have been jumping around trying to force everyone not to bother yet you are so bothered which is why you are glued to this thread

Since your low IQ believes i am a paid DSS agent because of my moniker which by the way was just a prank.

Common sense should have let you know that a DSS agent would use a moniker that does not attract attention shouldn't it?

But the moment you saw Colonel next to my name the lights went off in your head NA DSS AGENT OO DEM DONE PAY AM

Comedians

DMerciful:
You said Sowore deserves to be convicted for intent but you dont believe Bubu should be prosecuted for actually overthrowing a democratically elected govt. Even till now he believe his overthrowing of Shagari's is justified.
So what are we saying? A crime is a crime no matter how long! Has he apologized to the Nigerian people? Was he given a state pardon? By who?

You are not talking reasonably. Are you insinuating that of all the people that participated in a coup in the history of Nigeria, only Buhari should be brought out and prosecuted. Are you aware that a military coup often involves dozens of military officers? What of all the other military officers and civilians that had participated in the history of Nigeria? What of civilians that served and cooperated with military regimes? What of shonekan that was installed by IBB, a coup plotter himself.

You guys just seem to have an axe to grind with Buhari. Pure hatred, nothing else.

It is an interesting and educative thread no doubt but you technically saying rule of law should be suspended and let the SSS and presidency be the judge and jury in their own case is preposterous.
Kindly clarify, are you saying the SSS should not follow the rule of law? If they go to appeal court and again Sowore is granted bail, what should
happen next in your wisdom?

ColonelEmeka:
You have been jumping around trying to force everyone not to bother yet you are so bothered which is why you are glued to this thread

Since your low IQ believes i am a paid DSS agent because of my moniker which by the way was just a prank.

Common sense should have let you know that a DSS agent would use a moniker that does not attract attention shouldn't it?

But the moment you saw Colonel next to my name the lights went off in your head NA DSS AGENT OO DEM DONE PAY AM

Comedians

DSS don't seem to be sophisticated in their approach and strategy and I don't expect that their paid agents will be any better

I have seen them make mistakes that common criminals would not make.

Yes, I am jumping on all threads because I am here to ensure that evil paid agents do not take over the public space. The public space should be a civil sphere for the voice of reason.

We are not saying that Sowore committed treason or not; by the way there are many people who do not like his approach but whatever it is, he should be charged to court and the court should decide whether he is guilty or not, simple!

ColonelEmeka:
You have been jumping around trying to force everyone not to bother yet you are so bothered which is why you are glued to this thread

Since your low IQ believes i am a paid DSS agent because of my moniker which by the way was just a prank.

Common sense should have let you know that a DSS agent would use a moniker that does not attract attention shouldn't it?

But the moment you saw Colonel next to my name the lights went off in your head NA DSS AGENT OO DEM DONE PAY AM

Comedians

IBB did not carry a coup against a democratically elected govt, he overthrew an illegitimate govt so that is technically not a coup. Only Nzeogwu and Bubu in Nigeria history overthrew democratically elected govts and Nzeogwu is no more so Bubu needs to pay for his treason!

wirinet:
You are not talking reasonably. Are you insinuating that of all the people that participated in a coup in the history of Nigeria, only Buhari should be brought out and prosecuted. Are you aware that a military coup often involves dozens of military officers? What of all the other military officers and civilians that had participated in the history of Nigeria? What of civilians that served and cooperated with military regimes? What of shonekan that was installed by IBB, a coup plotter himself.

You guys just seem to have an axe to grind with Buhari. Pure hatred, nothing else.

idid:
Which school did you go to?

Do you understand what the rule of law is?

Go and tell your pay masters to obey the rules of law.

This is not Autocracy..

see a lame excuse response from a political Slave,hypocritic, bigot,cut off snake in the bush,uneducated,slowpoke who only wishes for bad things or news to happen in the country simply because their favourite person is not in power.why do you want to take hatred you have for only one man to wishes or spoil the whole country of millions of people by supporting #Revolution now# in Nigeria which you know or ignorantly not knowing that may consume the whole of your families??

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adekolaelect:
see a lame excuse response from a political Slave,hypocritic, bigot,cut off snake in the bush,uneducated,slowpoke who only wishes for bad things or news to happen in the country simply because their favourite person is not in power.why do you want to take hatred you have for only one man to wishes or spoil the whole country of millions of people by supporting #Revolution now# in Nigeria which you know or ignorantly not knowing that may consume the whole of your families??

idid:
DSS don't seem to be sophisticated in their approach and strategy and I don't expect that their paid agents will be any better

I have seen them make mistakes that common criminals would not make.

Yes, I am jumping on all threads because I am here to ensure that evil paid agents do not take over the public space. The public space should be a civil sphere for the voice of reason.

We are not saying that Sowore committed treason or not; by the way there are many people who do not like his approach but whatever it is, he should be charged to court and the court should decide whether he is guilty or not, simple!

Okay

Watch this video again and then read the below. Maybe the situation would become clearer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwRJcxw6R44

41. Any person who-



(1) becomes an accessory after the fact to treason; or



(2) knowing that any person intends to commit treason, does not give information thereof with all reasonable despatch to the President or the Governor of the State or a peace officer, or use other reasonable endeavours to prevent the commission of the offence;



is guilty of a felony, and is liable to imprisonment for life.



41. Any person who forms an intention to effect any of the following purposes, that is to say-



(a) to remove during his term of office otherwise than by constitutional means the President as Head of State of the Federation and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces thereof; or



(b) to likewise remove during his term of office the Governor of a State; or



(c) to levy war against Nigeria in order by force or constraint to compel the President to change his measures or counsels, or in order to put any force or constraint upon, or in order to intimidate or overawe any House of the National Assembly or any other Legislature or legislative authority; or



(d) to instigate any foreigner to make any armed invasion of Nigeria or of any of the territories thereof; and manifests such intention by an overt act, is guilty of a felony and is liable to imprisonment for life.

The above is from your criminal code act. Take it out on your criminal code act and not on Buhari or DSS.

ColonelEmeka:
You are so missing the point of this case.

The procedure is they would get you arrested and then investigate you and if found that you have done such before or you truly had the intent you would be charged to court with that evidence and if found guilty you would be penalized.

However in Sowores case he provided the evidence all by himself through the interviews he granted of which i have posted 3 videos in the OP thus far.

All the evidence required to present him before the courts were easily made available so in this case he not only gets arrested but charged to court as well.

Do you even know what plotting a coup is? You do not need arms or troops before you can plot a coup.

A PLOT is simply a plan made in secret by a group of people to do something illegal or harmful.

You plot a coup FIRST before you carry it out so in law it is classified under INTENT and not an ACT.

Sowore plotted with INTENT. Understood now?

It is not possible to prove the intention of someone by mere words alone, there must be some sort of action that must be done ontowards.

Treason is a very serious crime that attracts death penalty or life in jail. No judge in a democracy will send someone to their death over "what was said", the judge wants to know "what was done". How can a person be killed just for talking? It makes a mockery of the entire justice system. If I say I want to kill someone, I cannot be convicted for murder just because I talked. If Sowore says he wants to lead a revolution to remove government, let the authorities provide evidence he planned to do so beyond mere talk.

What the judge wants to know is how Sowore intends bring down a government protected by thousands of armed security force

Can he do that by mere talk? No he cant. Since he is not even in a position to commit the crime of overthrowing the government, the case will be dismissed unless the DSS can prove that Sowore had taken actions towards that such as arming himself and others.

Breach of the law must be actions, mere words are simply not enough

.

You see now that paid social media miscreants are not that sophisticated.

Apparently, you people posted this same video on You Tube today, and that's why you are using it as evidence here.

All of you and your Oga's will fail. The rule of law will triumph and democracy shall win

ColonelEmeka:


Okay

Watch this video again and then read the below. Maybe the situation would become clearer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwRJcxw6R44



The above is from your criminal code act. Take it out on your criminal code act and not on Buhari or DSS.

gidgiddy:
It is not possible to prove the intention of someone by mere words alone, there must be some sort of action that must be done ontowards.

Treason is a very serious crime that attracts death penalty or life in jail. No judge in a democracy will send someone to their death over "what was said", the judge wants to know "what was done". How can a person be killed just for talking? It makes a mockery of the entire justice system. If I say I want to kill someone, I cannot be convicted for murder just because I talked. If Sowore says he wants to lead a revolution to remove government, let the authorities provide evidence he planned to do so beyond mere talk.

What the judge wants to know is how Sowore intends bring down a government protected by thousands of armed security force

Can he do that by mere talk? No he cant. Since he is not even in a position to commit the crime of overthrowing the government, the case will be dismissed unless the DSS can prove that Sowore had taken actions towards that such as arming himself and others.

Breach of the law must be actions, mere words are simply not enough

Watch this video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L4zbXOV_qU

You need action? They already set the date and had principal officers on stand by in 20 states and DSS had access to these officers according to Sowore because he said himself that the DSS called one of the principal officers under his RevolutionNow to ask him if they planned to shut down Nigeria from August 5 and the agent of Sowore said not only shut down Nigeria but a few days after that there would be no DSS existing as Nigeria would experience a sudden unprecedented change.

In case you do not know what incriminatory statement means, there you have it right there and the fact that dates have been set, awareness created, agents arranged in 20 states who the DSS already knew about according to Sowore shows action was inevitable.

Sowore intended copying the methods of Sudan, Algeria etc and he mentioned these countries in this video above.

I suggest you watch it. I think you have spoken enough from your place of ignorance.