EgunMogaji2:
“ Americans are retiring to Vietnam, for cheap healthcare and a decent standard of living ”

https://apple.news/AHpsmVMlqScGBNG7ByxglEw

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-25/americans-are-retiring-to-vietnam-for-cheap-health-care-and-a-decent-living-standard

I could easily be living in Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, etc

But fathia Balogun won't be there...

weyreypey:

But fathia Balogun won't be there...

She can be imported if need be

EgunMogaji2:


Thanks for the contribution.

Majority of us in that era and previous era wasn’t necessarily fleeing economic conditions like most are doing now.

Also we return not to break laws or oppress people but to simply enjoy our cultural heritage.

[b]I feel pity for those that don’t see anything of worth in Nigeria. A crying shame reall[/b]y.

Its truely a crying shame. But I can see things from their perspective. Many were born into a Nigerian society where pretty much almost nothing works the way it should. They have grown up having to beg, borrow, steal, bribe and hustle for stuff that should come easy and oftentimes is a God given right in saner societies. Oppression, suppression, ethnic and religious bigotry, superstition, greed and many other difficulties are the order of the day in our dear country. Worst thing is that it keeps getting worse over time. They have not experienced anything good with Nigeria and therefore cannot envision anything good about it. We that have seen Nigeria in better times hold on to those memories and believe that the nation will be better someday.
The advent of accessible internet has opened eyes in Nigeria. The broader younger generation (over and above the select few that could travel) has seen whats possible in other countries and want that future for themselves and their kids. Nothing wrong with that. I stumbled into that opportunity and don't regret it even though I had a lot of sadness and apprehension when I left due t o the fact that I had a good life in Nigeria when I left and thought I was leaving for relative uncertainty.

EgunMogaji2:


Thanks for the contribution.

Majority of us in that era and previous era wasn’t necessarily fleeing economic conditions like most are doing now.

Also we return not to break laws or oppress people but to simply enjoy our cultural heritage.

I feel pity for those that don’t see anything of worth in Nigeria. A crying shame really.

That's not entirely true.

Some Nigerians are still seeing the worth in Nigeria but they do not necessary have to live and go through un-needed harsh conditions in the Country to see its worth.

There are still millions of Nigerians still living in Nigeria that have either chosen not to live abroad or have not been given the opportunity to do so.

There are hundreds of abroad returnees just like you who have taken commited steps to return back to Nigeria because they still believe that Nigeria is worth their support.

Now those that want to leave Nigeria to travel and live in Advanced Countries to have options in Career experiences and Citizenships should please do so when given the opportunity.

They can still show that Nigeria is still worth their support by investing in Nigeria just like you did when you lived abroad.

Egbon Egunmogaji2,

Come and continue your story ooh.

herzernIsHere:
Egbon Egunmogaji2,

Come and continue your story ooh.

Sorry I've been perambulating around the countryside.

Update is coming.

This thread is dah bomb. Following closely.

PART 4:

I left Nigeria in 1986 and didn't visit until 2006, a solid 20 years away. When I landed at Murtala, it was at night, I came out of the airport to basically darkness and moreover it has been twenty years since I saw an unbroken group of black people. I has a frighteningly semi religious experience. I felt like turning around and getting back on the plane. But I calmed down.

The next morning I had calmed down. Somewhat.

Some of the things I immediately noticed in Lagos were:

1) My Mum had grown much older. She wasn't that fearful authoritarian anymore. I just kept looking at her. Even though she had visited the USA every two years or so but here in Nigeria she was in her element. Age is a wonderful thing.

2) The roads were bad, really bad. I was shocked that there has not being any improvement in 20 years. As if time stood still.

3) The drivers were horrible. Frankly downright dangerous.

4) Even though I was used to USA police officers carrying side arms and changing to rifles when necessary, seeing Nigerian Police basically carrying around AK47 type assault weapons was comical and downright dangerous.

5) Driving was an extreme sport, where people are prepared to have a collision. It seems.

6) Power outage. I haven't experienced a power outage in 20 years. It was shocking and a little bit scary to have all the lights just go out. Okay so during some of the earthquakes in California we did loose power but you had a full crew of Southern California Edison (California NEPA) working 24/7 to restore power. They had representatives going door to door to apologize and offer assistance to senior citizens and others that need solutions. Some people need constant electricity to stay alive. When I left Nigeria in 1986 it wasn't this bad. We had a schedule, a rotating schedule of sorts.

I've always hated Lagos, not really sure why. It has been this way since I was little. So I was happy to head out to Ibadan where I was sure things would be more normal.

A side note. We chartered a vehicle at Ojota I think to take us to Ibadan. My Mum doesn't drive, so our family car was no longer working since my younger brother whom I left in Nigeria was also already in the USA. So ask yourself, what preparations are you making for your parents comfort when you flee?

As we drove towards Ibadan I noticed that the toll booth are gone. They were there when I left. I thought it was a nice change.

There were some alarming potholes on the road and I though only a maniac with a death wish would dare travel the road at night. Please understand that the only potholes I've seen in 20 years is when I go off road in my 4X4 as a hobby. To see one on the road where actual regular vehicles were plying was a shocker.

We entered Ibadan and again no toll booth. Nice.

Then it hit me all of a sudden that they've bastardized my peaceful Ibadan. What happened? Where did all this people come from?

Anyways, as we drove up Ayefele, towards Challenge and Molete to go to Oke Ado, the reality that they did screw up Nigeria somewhere along the lines. Ibadan is now a dirty mess.

We arrived home and I went up to my room to see all my old stuff. I wanted to see my old posters on the walls, my address book, etc

Were they there?

Onto the next part.

Following closely...

Happy new year

stonemasonn:
Happy new year

Thanks, same to you Sir.

I feel blessed, my first crossover in Nigeria in 34 years.

I spent it with the youths of my village at their carnival.

Despite all the hardship in the country life goes on. Gives hope.

May this be a year of breakthroughs for us and we all harvest our desires.

EgunMogaji2:


Thanks for asking, please do.

I also want to send you a pm. I am lawyer who wants to start a career outside Nigeria. Since my nysc, haven't gotten much gains in the field

ccollins:
I also want to send you a pm. I am lawyer who wants to start a career outside Nigeria. Since my nysc, haven't gotten much gains in the field

You can't practice Nigerian law elsewhere.

If you want to continue being a lawyer outside Nigerian shores, then you'll have to study the laws of that region.

ccollins:
I also want to send you a pm. I am lawyer who wants to start a career outside Nigeria. Since my nysc, haven't gotten much gains in the field

Please do, I'll provide any information that I can. I have a close friend that's a Lawyer in UK, we left around the same time, maybe he'll be of additional help too.

Heemcelph:


You can't practice Nigerian law elsewhere.

If you want to continue being a lawyer outside Nigerian shores, then you'll have to study the laws of that region.

Very true but he'll have a leg up in the career.

Same is also true for Nigeria. My friend who is a Barrister in UK for donkey years had to come back to school in Nigeria in order to practice.

EgunMogaji2:


Please do, I'll provide any information that I can. I have a close friend that's a Lawyer in UK, we left around the same time, maybe he'll be of additional help too.

please I wouldn't mind

Very interesting

Now following...

I grew up in Lagos and worked few years in Ibadan. But I am always drawn to build a house in Ibadan, and sort of take it as my new settlement in my 50s. I wonder whether this thought is crazy, owing that I have no family in Ibadan. I enjoyed my work there 0

sgtponzihater1:
I grew up in Lagos and worked few years in Ibadan. But I am always drawn to build a house in Ibadan, and sort of take it as my new settlement in my 50s. I wonder whether this thought is crazy, owing that I have no family in Ibadan. I enjoyed my work there 0

Are you familiar with the new Lagos-Ibadan Railway line?

The rail line is fully laid and they’re doing passenger trials now and only need to complete the stations. Then it’ll be be one hour travel time.

So if you work in Lagos then living in Ibadan is a possibility.

Above all I’m happy that you’re already planning your retirement. You’ll use it in good health.

EgunMogaji2:
“ Americans are retiring to Vietnam, for cheap healthcare and a decent standard of living ”

https://apple.news/AHpsmVMlqScGBNG7ByxglEw

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-12-25/americans-are-retiring-to-vietnam-for-cheap-health-care-and-a-decent-living-standard

I could easily be living in Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia, etc

Why did they not move to any of those countries at their youthful age? They are using those countries are their care home

justwise:


Why did they not move to any of those countries at their youthful age? They are using those countries are their care home

Trust me those countries are not complaining. In fact they create specific visa class for foreign retirees.

Retirees bring in dollars and infuse it into the local economy. And because they didn’t contribute to the social pool as you suggested so they cannot get any government assistance. Retirees pay for everything out of pocket.

Just like in Nigeria, what has Nigeria given me or done for me (since I returned)? I’ve paid out of pocket for everything.

It’s a win win.

EgunMogaji2:


Are you familiar with the new Lagos-Ibadan Railway line?

The rail line is fully laid and they’re doing passenger trials now and only need to complete the stations. Then it’ll be be one hour travel time.

So if you work in Lagos then living in Ibadan is a possibility.

Above all I’m happy that you’re already planning your retirement. You’ll use it in good health.

Thanks boss. We have similar stories. Just trying to set things up in naija. Though I'm still early in my career. Trying to invest in Naija early

sgtponzihater1:


Thanks boss. We have similar stories. Just trying to set things up in naija. Though I'm still early in my career. Trying to invest in Naija early

Excellent, good luck.

justwise:


Why did they not move to any of those countries at their youthful age? They are using those countries are their care home

Additional information for you. We should encourage Nigeria to get her act together so that foreigners can come and use her as their "care home". This one that unemployment is rife.

https://www.thaiembassy.com/retire/retire.php

https://www.panama-offshore-services.com/retired_pensioned_program.htm

The only time I can say I benefitted from the govt was the bicycle allowance of 1,500N I got from the govt during nysc year

EgunMogaji2:


Additional information for you. We should encourage Nigeria to get her act together so that foreigners can come and use her as their "care home". This one that unemployment is rife.

https://www.thaiembassy.com/retire/retire.php

https://www.panama-offshore-services.com/retired_pensioned_program.htm

Hmmm....this is a very smart move from Panama.

Very much agree with the highlighted statement.

EgunMogaji2:


You’re way off.

I am blessed with an opportunity of early retirement.

A quick side note. An unsolicited advice to young folks just starting out.

1) Pick an end goal. Whatever it is. Canada citizenship. Castle in Edinburgh. N100M in savings. Shit shack on 100 acres. Whatever.

2) Hustle/struggle every waking hour of your daily life towards that goal.

3) When you reach that goal or within reasonable spiting distance of it then hang it up.

4) Start enjoying your non work life.

5) Don’t die on the job or work till death.

Uncle Egun, you have time o. People that are programmed to see things in a certain way can't be reprogrammed without actual experience. It's their experience that will reset their thinking not your good advice they should pay you for consultation if they want to learn through your personal experience

Mizwisdom:



Uncle Egun, you have time o. People that are programmed to see things in a certain way can't be reprogrammed without actual experience. It's their experience that will reset their thinking not your good advice they should pay you for consultation if they want to learn through your personal experience

I completely understand where you’re coming from.

This is just my little way of giving back to the community.

Hopefully most would find it beneficial. Some have used the opportunity to manifest their insanity and attacked me. That’s okay too as it shows their barnyard upbringings.

Thank and may all your resolutions come to fruition this year. Ase.

EgunMogaji2:


I completely understand where you’re coming from.

This is just my little way of giving back to the community.

Hopefully most would find it beneficial. Some have used the opportunity to manifest their insanity and attacked me. That’s okay too as it shows their barnyard upbringings.

Thank and may all your resolutions come to fruition this year. Ase.

lol!...I am sure some and may be not all would benefit or agree with your advice and story.


The day we all start to agree on the same things the World will be so boring and bland.