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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:11pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Monaco signs Onyekuru, Rohr calls Onyekuru. They bench Onyekuru, he drops Onyekuru. grin
even when Onyekuru was banging goals, did Rohr play Onyekuru?

Abeg stick to arguing about Man City and Brendan Rodgers, that is more up your alley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:12pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:
you think Aribo would be in the team or even Uzoho if not for Rohr?

The local scene is not his problem, tell Salisu to unearth gems there, abi what is Salisu doing aside collecting bribe?

They will not be in the scene if the clubs did not do bulk of the work. Rohr just picks who clubs do the work to expose. Yes, Aribo and Uzoho would make the Super Eagles without Rohr. Ndidi and Iheanacho did so without Rohr. Simon Moses did so without Rohr.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:13pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


How many did he discover or play a part in discovering? Three in that list were Super Eagles players before Rohr's arrival. So what was so impactful in that?

The job of senior national team is not developing talents. It is making the best use of available talents.

Rohr is not the under 17 or under 20 coach.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:14pm On Dec 28, 2019
Komekn, Bournemouth are considering sending Solanke out on loan or ship him out, outrightly to count their loss, please do u think any ambitous championship team would come for his signature?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:17pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


The job of senior national team is not developing talents. It is making the best use of available talents.

Rohr is not the under 17 or under 20 coach.

Rohr is the Super Eagles coach and the U17 and U20 players fall in the pool. If a gem rise from there, they become part of the super eagles. He should be involved in some way. Westerhof was involved with the U17 team to their tactics. He had a passion for the Super Eagles. Not lounging in Europe in the name of coaching.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:17pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


They will not be in the scene if the clubs did not do bulk of the work. Rohr just picks who clubs do the work to expose. Yes, Aribo and Uzoho would make the Super Eagles without Rohr. Ndidi and Iheanacho did so without Rohr. Simon Moses did so without Rohr.

Iheanacho that Keshi refused to call because be was too young? Lol.

You think you would have been seeing boys like Osimhen and Chukwueze wey their beard never reach ground normally?

Why say Ndidi and Iheanacho? Why not mention Ekong that Oliseh famously discarded?

Like I said, half truths is what you are posting here. It is normal for people to become greedy when you give them a taste of success.

Go submit your CV and invite all the ekukes in that sinking NPFL, let us see if you will not use industrial calculator to gauge our chances of qualifying for any tournament in a group with Togo, Namibia and Kenya.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:19pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


The job of senior national team is not developing talents. It is making the best use of available talents.

Rohr is not the under 17 or under 20 coach.
tbaba, e don do.

Leave am to dey talk him own.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:19pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:


Iheanacho that Keshi refused to call because be was too young? Lol.

You think you would have been seeing boys like Osimhen and Chukwueze wey their beard never reach ground normally?

Why say Ndidi and Iheanacho? Why not mention Ekong that Oliseh famously discarded?

Like I said, half truths is what you are posting here. It is normal for people to become greedy when you give them a taste of success.

Go submit your CV and invite all the ekukes in that sinking NPFL, let us see if you will not use industrial calculator to gauge our chances of qualifying for any tournament in a group with Togo, Namibia and Kenya.

What are you saying? Keshi took Iheanacho to CHAN camp. The problem was Iheanacho abandoning the CHAN Super Eagles to sign for City.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:21pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:


Iheanacho that Keshi refused to call because be was too young? Lol.

You think you would have been seeing boys like Osimhen and Chukwueze wey their beard never reach ground normally?

Why say Ndidi and Iheanacho? Why not mention Ekong that Oliseh famously discarded?

Like I said, half truths is what you are posting here. It is normal for people to become greedy when you give them a taste of success.

Go submit your CV and invite all the ekukes in that sinking NPFL, let us see if you will not use industrial calculator to gauge our chances of qualifying for any tournament in a group with Togo, Namibia and Kenya.

This is not Oliseh Keshi but Rohr sitting down and doing more of his job.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:27pm On Dec 28, 2019
*clears throat*

Who said KC is not in-form?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:27pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


This is not Oliseh Keshi but Rohr sitting down and doing more of his job.

It is not Rohr's job to scout for local players.

You have still not answered what Salisu is supposed to do if Rohr is scouting local players.

You have still not answered which local players Rohr should scout for, because thee only reason you should be speaking so confidently about scouting local players is if you have a few in mind

You are purposely evading the important points because they don't suit your narrative that Rohr must work like a jacky.

If you cannot recommend these gems in the local league, or tell us what Salisu is doing with his own free time (at least we know Rohr visits players abroad), then everything you are saying here is okoto meow skrrrr

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:33pm On Dec 28, 2019
he gets attention here.. just that some of us are trying to quiet him because of where plays.

slimthugchimee2:


Why isn't this guy getting any attention is it because of his league?

I just saw he scored 6 goals in europa
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:35pm On Dec 28, 2019
Blast from the past


forgiveness:


PUZZLING SELECTION SINKS NIGERIA'S AFCON QUEST


The stakes could not be higher, but Siasia's odd selection choices robbed the Super Eagles of any flow and rhythm in attack in Alexandria

By Solace Chukwu
Where once it seemed an aberration to have an Africa Cup of Nations without Nigeria, there is now a sense of resigned inevitability to it. The Fifa ranking cops quite a bit of flak (are Cape Verde really the best team in Africa?) but in the case of the Super Eagles, it may well be overgenerous.

One miss might be considered unfortunate, but a repeat serves only to buttress the most uncomfortable of truths: Nigeria are no longer one of Africa’s best 16 teams. The 2013 triumph in South Africa seems now a distant memory, the cruel shadow of a haunting memory tugging away at the back of the mind, fluttering just out of reach and leaving in its wake baleful emptiness.

Charged with the task of exorcising that ghost was an eleven that appeared to defy logic and reason; so much so, it became convenient to see method in the madness: perhaps Siasia sought to spring a surprise on the Pharaohs, luring them into the sort of false sense of security that proved their undoing in the epic Biblical tale of Hebrew redemption at the Red Sea.

As it turns out, it was Nigeria’s wheels that came unstuck in the end. Far more worrying though than the underwhelming choices and performances of the likes of Aminu Umar and Stanley Amuzie, it was clear that, as a team, there was little conviction to how it sought to create the goal(s) required to remain in contention. Surely, if the idea was to take the game to the hosts from the off, a bit more invention in central areas than either Umar or Ahmed Musa are capable of would have seemed apposite.



Did Siasia's selection decisions undermine Nigeria?

The effect of both Victor Moses and the CSKA Moscow man taking up narrow positions meant oodles of space on the flank, but yet again – as it was against South Africa in Uyo in 2014 – neither full-back provided width on the overlap. The hosts therefore only had to defend the width of their penalty box, and were largely untroubled against an attack that appeared to feature four (five if you count a neither-fish-nor-fowl Oghenekaro Etebo) strangers uncertain of their collective moments.


Shehu Abdullahi at right-back – there’s an experiment that has spontaneously combusted in all our faces – looked totally overawed by the occasion, and was full of errors all game long. His haplessness evinced sympathy, and though it was Amuzie at left-back who was withdrawn at half-time, one gets the impression it was for lack of a proper deputy at right-back.

The Borg El Arab Stadium may have lacked the sheer weight of numbers that crammed itself into the Ahmadu Bello Stadium, Kaduna on Friday, but it made up for it with an atmosphere of hissing malevolence and zipping green lasers. It worked; aside captain John Obi Mikel and Daniel Akpeyi, who pulled off two splendid stops in the first period, no one else in green came out of this smelling of roses. If eleven subs were possible, Siasia may well have made them all.

There was perhaps no greater indication that he had got his starting line-up wrong than the nature of his substitutions: all broadly like-for-like, each introducing a player who should have started the tie—Elderson Echiejile’s experience at the highest level was surely not something to sniff at; Etebo’s impersonation of a central midfielder, untidy and imprecise as it was, gave way to the smooth Azubuike Okechukwu; while Alex Iwobi, in his 20 minutes, showed more guile and ability to knit the play together than the limited Umar managed in 70.

Quite why Siasia thought it wise to keep his powder dry so long, with his team needing a win, is anyone’s guess.


He may have saved the fine wine for last, but by the time the changes were made, the Super Eagles were addled, swaying on their feet and pretty much out for the count. It seemed almost mercifully fortunate that Moses’s fizzing shot came off the post and spun out: renewed hope, in this case, would have been little more than prolonging the agony.

What this team needs; nay, what Nigerian football needs now, is surgery.

http://m.goal.com/s/en-ng/news/4079/features/2016/03/30/21824882/puzzling-selection-sinks-nigerias-afcon-quest
abeg, who remembers these farmers?

Which of Siasia's players was it famously said of, that he should be selling toothbrush in Lagos hold up, rather than playing football?

May Afflcition not rise a second time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 10:39pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Tell the coach to sit down and do his work. Did I name Amokachi and Oliseh for Westerhof?
You keep mentioning Amokachie and Oliseh during westerhorf. How many of the players plays oversea back then.

Is only westerhorf the foreign Coach Nigeria ever had?

What about Bonfre Jo, Bora Milutinovic, Manfred Hoener, Philippe Troussier, Thijs Libregts, Berti Vogts,
Las Lagerback?

Although Manfred Hoener preceded Clemens Westerhorf anyway.

What local players in particular did they discovered?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:40pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:


It is not Rohr's job to scout for local players.

You have still not answered what Salisu is supposed to do if Rohr is scouting local players.

You have still not answered which local players Rohr should scout for, because thee only reason you should be speaking so confidently about scouting local players is if you have a few in mind

You are purposely evading the important points because they don't suit your narrative that Rohr must work like a jacky.

If you cannot recommend these gems in the local league, or tell us what Salisu is doing with his own free time (at least we know Rohr visits players abroad), then everything you are saying here is okoto meow skrrrr

Westerfhof to me is one of the most successful foreign coaches we have in Nigeria; if not the most successful. He developed a team over five years. From Algiers 1990 to USA 1994.

“Any time there is a league match in the country, you will see Westerhof going to Calabar to watch the Calabar Rovers and pick players there, he would go to Jos to see Plateau United play their match and pick players. He had gone to Kaduna to see Ranchers Bees play a league match; he had gone to Makurdi to watch BCC Lions of Gboko and to Minna to watch Niger Tornadoes. He has gone to Maidugri to watch Elkanemi.

That is where he got Finidi George, Tijani Babanginda, Daniel Amokachi, Moses Kpako, Garba Lawal, Abdul Amino and others.


https://bestchoicesports.com.ng/westerhof-remains-the-most-successful-foreign-coach-in-nigeria-gara-gombe/

Do you think Westerhof did not have local assistants?

Whether Keshi or Siasia made wrong calls of players is not the point. The point is Rohr also has a role to play in the local scene. It seems he does not know it and I am glad the clause is now there for him to know.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:43pm On Dec 28, 2019
Leonardo Jardim relieved of his duties at Monaco, could this scupper Onyekuru's proposed move to Gala and in return offer him a new lease of life and a better fortune at the Les Rouges et Blancs?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:44pm On Dec 28, 2019
Kbs468:

You keep mentioning Amokachie and Oliseh during westerhorf. How many of the players plays oversea back then.

Is only westerhorf the foreign Coach Nigeria ever had?

What about Bonfre Jo, Bora Milutinovic, Manfred Hoener, Philippe Troussier, Thijs Libregts, Berti Vogts,
Las Lagerback?

Although Manfred Hoener preceded Clemens Westerhorf anyway.

We had foreign based players. Off the top, I can give you Efan Ekoku, Keshi, Jonathan Akpoborie, Emenalo, Owubokiri, Alloy Agu, Peter Rufai.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by simiife: 10:45pm On Dec 28, 2019
the good Joe is disappointing me,gaskia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:46pm On Dec 28, 2019
simiife:
the good Joe is disappointing me,gaskia

I am more disappointed in you. grin grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chidi1: 10:48pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


How many did he discover or play a part in discovering? Three in that list were Super Eagles players before Rohr's arrival. So what was so impactful in that?

The Good Joe, I cannot help but admire your cogent defense to support your point of view, even when presented with a barrage of seemingly indefensible facts. It speaks of someone who either has a law background or just does not know when to throw in the towel. Either way, I doff my hat.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:48pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Where is Van Dyke and Allison in your list. grin

Lol e wont put it nah, na tori e dey find

I just read the post laff

Na liverpool break record for defender and goal keeper grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 10:49pm On Dec 28, 2019
Joebie:
he gets attention here.. just that some of us are trying to quiet him because of where plays.

I believe that slimthugchimee2 meant the Super Eagles call up attention though and not necessarily the attention from us in here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:50pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:
tbaba, e don do.

Leave am to dey talk him own.

I agree.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:51pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


Please where are Oboabana and Ogude today?? BY 2015, Oboabana was finished. Is that what you can a gem.


Ogude played almost all the games in russia first division last season

Oboabona is far gone

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:52pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:
you think Aribo would be in the team or even Uzoho if not for Rohr?

The local scene is not his problem, tell Salisu to unearth gems there, abi what is Salisu doing aside collecting bribe?


Agreed
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:53pm On Dec 28, 2019
Clemence Westerhof, Bonfrere Jo and other coaches did a lot to develop me... Finidi George.

Some people think when Westerhof found the likes of Oliseh, Amokachi and Finidi George, they were finished products. Forgetting our coaches put in a lot of work to turn these gems into polished stars that became the toast of Europe.

Sitting in Europe and expecting Zidane to drop from the local league, is far from hilarious. There is a lot of work to be done for our national team coach to stay in Europe lounging.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 10:55pm On Dec 28, 2019
In the beginning, it was Rashford, Martial for the Reds and Iheanacho for the citizens. All three made cover pages of newspapers week in week out. Then the unexpected and unexplainable happened! all three sank down the drain.

They were quickly overshadowed by upcoming stars. They became objects of ridicule, written off and tagged fraud.

But as time will have it, They are gradually getting back to their very best. Churning out performances that mirrors that which brought them to limelight. Most surprising all three at the same time in the same league but different cities.

Hope they can sustain the tempo for a while.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:55pm On Dec 28, 2019
oh okay.. Well since Rohr want's a tall striker option then he needs to consider Sadiq versus Onuachu. Maybe he doesn't see Sadiq as strong enough. Onuachu doesn't fit in based on the way we play. I no understand Rohr logic on this one.

Kbs468:

I believe that slimthugchimee2 meant the Super Eagles call up attention though and not necessarily the attention from us in here
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:56pm On Dec 28, 2019
ChrisKels:
Komekn, Bournemouth are considering sending Solanke out on loan or ship him out, outrightly to count their loss, please do u think any ambitous championship team would come for his signature?

He will say yes nah but if its nacho then he will say No

But now for nacho matter even epl teams go rush am

Komekn is speechless right now

Its better you leave him alone grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kbs468(m): 10:59pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


We had foreign based players. Off the top, I can give you Efan Ekoku, Keshi, Jonathan Akpoborie, Emenalo, Owubokiri, Alloy Agu, Peter Rufai.
And they were still part of the his team na isn't it?

What I mean is the below

Is only westerhorf the foreign Coach Nigeria ever had? Besides, mention 5 to 6 other local players he discovered from his parambolating around to watch our league matches that was even top notch back then unlike now apart from Amokachie and Oliseh

What about Bonfre Jo, Bora Milutinovic, Manfred Hoener, Philippe Troussier, Thijs Libregts, Berti Vogts,
Las Lagerback? Which local players of note did they discovered inspite of their involvement with the local scene?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:03pm On Dec 28, 2019
AIG07:
In the beginning, it was Rashford, Martial for Reds and Iheanacho for the citizens. All three made cover pages of newspapers week in week out. Then the unexpected and unexplainable happened! all three sank down the drain.

They were quickly overshadowed by upcoming stars. They became objects of ridicule, written off and tagged fraud.

But as time will have it, They are gradually getting back to their very best. Churning out performances that mirrors that which brought them to limelight. Most surprising all three at the same time in the same league but different city.

Hope they can sustain the tempo for a while.

Martial is inconsistent no be today

Rashford has always been doing well for united

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