| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Akolawole(m): 12:17pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Well.. you are very very FREE to choose whatever way you go.
Some of us chose to be Christian and we FULLY enjoy our choice. 2 Likes |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MedicH: 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
what if you end up in hell fire... me i no fit reason ur atheism oo |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Lamasta(m): 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
OP it is well with your soul that's all I have to say 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
F r e e w i l l. 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.
2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.
3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.
4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome
I won't talk about no 1 no 2: there is no Bible verse that says don't drink. the Bible is only against getting drunk. Malachi and Deuteronomy talks about same thing. Malachi says bring all your tithe to the house of God. it didn't say what you are to do with them when you get there but Deuteronomy is telling you what to do when you get there verse 23; Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the LORD your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the LORD your God always. there is nothing contradictory. I thought you will come up with something better. 3 God answer prayers but won't answer all prayers. sickness, death and other terrible stuff are results of the Adamic sin. you don't expect God to get rid of them when the Bible already made it clear things will get worst in the last days. 4 you don't expect to become rich just by being a Christian. Jesus said you should be satisfied with food and clothing alone. the Bible already talked about the persecution and tribulations Christians will face towards the end. Jesus already said Christians will experience worst than he got and the apostles were happy when persecuted. lastly I am not saying God will stop their persecution if they were Christians but the Jews are no Christians. they were rejected by God 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by adenigga(m): 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
whitelotus:
Hello,
Please answer this question for me.
People existed over 5,000 years before Jesus came to earth. If he is the only way, what was the fate of those people who never even got to know him?
They are exempted!!! 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by BrainSanitizer: 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
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| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by DenreleDave(m): 12:19pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Snowale:
so you mean there isn't spirit of truth in any of your pastors or Christains, just disciples possesses the spirit. Apart from the fact that many Bible verses are ambiguous, coupled with some modifications, translation errors, many versions, different writters, and many languages. The comforter is to come after Jesus which is Prophet Mohammed. So the comforter is muhammed that killed people.. How does all these relates to comfort?? 4 Likes |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 12:19pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
You need to learn how to study a text in context. You dont just pick out random verses and compare them and expect them to still make sense to you.
People study theology for years to be able to preach the Bible with wisdom and youre here plucking random verses out of thin air and talking of atheism smh 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Expert17: 12:19pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
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| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by bergs2: 12:20pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
I was once at that crossroad bro.
But I bet you; that is the breakthrough point for many of us only if you ask more questions.
Don't be confused. God is a person 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by aimuan(m): 12:20pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
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| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MiltonFine: 12:21pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.
2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.
3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.
4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome
What if Apostle John was just another over zealous disciple of Christ? Did you know that the gospel of John is the one that calls Jesus God?-John 1:1.Trust me you wont find it anywhere else except in a scripture written by John if there's any at all. Did you also know that John was the only gospel account where Jesus said 'I and the father are one'?(John 10:30) Did you also know that the doctrine of trinity is based only on the account written by John? (1 John 5:7) What if John was to Jesus as Lai Mohammed is to Buhari? What if....No offense. Just thinking out loud. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by midnighter(f): 12:21pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart:
3. Does God answer prayers?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue. You are not serious at all. How will prayer solve the issue of you drinking your stomach into oblivion? I dont see how its Gods fault you refused to stop destroying your stomach when you already knew what the problem was and what you needed to do to stop it. 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MedicH: 12:22pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Atayis:
have you been baptized by the holy spirit? It is digusting that over the years, you have been honouring God with your mouth, not your heart.
Improve your spiritual life and you will have the encounter of God you kwanu that has been baptised why not start explaining the 4 reasons op gave in the way the holy spirit explained to you oe dont u understand anything? 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 12:23pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Bro you wrote my mind too.But to deny the existence of God is to deny my own existence, I c a lot of suffering, Innocent people dying, I see people who thought God healed them of cancer only for the cancer to resurface years later and they end up dead,I see people giving testimonies how God saved them from accidents,sickness etc only for them to still die from those things or even worst things, everything looks so random,so so random. God help me to understand you. 4 Likes |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by whitelotus: 12:23pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
StrikeBack:
There is nothing to explain because my post is very easy to understand and self explanatory....
Balance of Trade Trade of balance ko. |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Expert17: 12:23pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
aimuan:
Somebody is doubting God's existence, instead of you to convinced him you're here calling him mumu. Is that what Jesus taught you?in fact you're giving him more reason to doubt. Be Wise my brother Its not by Force bro............. U cn force a horse to d stream, but u cnt force it to drink water............. |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by theoneJabulani(m): 12:23pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
damoobaba:
You said there's no God and you're feeling on top of the world
1. is it America that created the air you're breathing?
2. is it kainji dam that generated the water bodies of the world. Oceans, seas, rivers etc.
3. The sea and land animals. where did they come from?
4. Have you wondered how a mixture of gas(the cloud) is able to hold all matter on earth in place and not allow to just pass through it.
5.And the other NUMEROUS planets, is it Albert Einstein or Michael Faraday that created them. I have more questions for you anyway.
But until you answer these ones accurately with facts, I feel what you need is to be EDUCATED on who God really is, but not doubt HIS existence. Doubting his existence could prove to be very fatal for you. in your mind now, you actually believe all this questions are unanswerable 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by whitelotus: 12:24pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
adenigga:
They are exempted!!! Exempted? So millions of pagans will go to heave just because they didn't know Jesus? 2 Likes |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by MedicH: 12:24pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Expert17:
AM HERE TO SING OOOOOOOOO
SEE BROTHER BROTHER
SEE BROTHER BROTHER
BROTHER WEY MUMU BROTHER
BROTHER WEY STUPID BROTHER
All u need is Food,...... ur just hungry  you are just perpertualy empty mark my words, perpetualy 5 Likes |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by femstimauto: 12:25pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.
2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.
3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.
4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome
I have considered all before now and yet still intact. Jesus Christ only no other!!! 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Nobody: 12:25pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Snowale:
those that didn't believe another prophet came after Moses are the Jews, those that didn't believe that another Prophet came after Jesus, are Christains while those that believed in the truth that the last prophet came, are the Muslims, they don't worship man, or cross or mother Mary's statue or Jesus statue. you forgot to add whom they believe is the prophet was a paedophile 2 Likes |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Mitocyan: 12:25pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart:
1.Jesus is the only way to God, John 14:6
This invariably means those who don't believe in Jesus have no business in heaven.
Christians worldwide have an estimated population of 2.4billion people
Islam records an estimate of 1.9 billion adherents, Hindu has an estimated 1.1bn adherents. The remaining world's population have their own beliefs which includes atheism.
If Jesus is the only way to God, what happens to those who don't believe in him? Hell? Well, the Bible suggests so.
2. There are a lot of complications and contradictory remarks in the Bible- a verse says don't drink, another says "Drink for your stomach sake", or "Do not drink wherein excess."
Malachi 3:10 a famous Bible verse on tithing speaks about bringing your tithe to the storehouse (church, maybe)
Deuteronomy 14:22-26 says otherwise, it says "you should drink and be merry with your tithe". I'm seriously beginning to doubt the credibility of the Bible. Maybe the translators' fault or God told writers different stories on the same issue. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke and John's account of Jesus and see real contradictions.
3. Does God answer prayers? Well, I'm not really sure about that. Someone might be suffering from malaria, the person takes drugs and still prays, the drugs work, but the person thanks God. Or a successful surgical operation, instead of thanking the doctor, they thank God. Some illnesses that would have been treated led to deaths because a certain congregation who were supposed to take the ill persons to the hospital, circled around praying. Faith without work isn't it still dead?
I remember when I had stomach ulcer, it was really terrible, I prayed and made several promises to God that if He took away the ulcer, I'd drink no more alcohol and will be more devout in worshipping Him. That didn't solve anything though, I stopped drinking and took to taking my drugs more seriously. Weeks later, I was well. I returned to drinking and after a few months, the ulcer resurfaced. That was when I realized I really needed to quit drinking. Prayers wouldn't have solved that issue.
I spent 80% of 2019 at home because of my misgivings about God's existence.
I really wish I could be convinced about God's existence because I'm not even happy to be away from Church because of the views of friends and family.
4. Children of God, or so called children of God tend to suffer more tribulations, hard times and desperate moments, a lot of them scream "Vanity upon Vanity" when secular people live in luxury or spend extravagantly. God tends to turn his back on those who worship Him especially when they need Him most.
The 1933 Holocaust and mass murder of Jews to the tone of 6m was a clear indication that God turns His eyes against His people
Repulsive comments are highly welcome
Congrats and welcome to the light. Another point is why should you take the bible more seriously than other religious books that contain made up stories of miracle that has never been replicated in today's world. |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by luckingto50: 12:25pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
We are waiting for the day you will write this trash about Quran... Your head will turn to ball for soccer. |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Infomaz(m): 12:26pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
I understand and sympathize with your dilemma. You're yet to find answers to life's fundamental questions:
1. Where do we come from? Why am I here? Where am I going to?
2. If God is love, why so much pain, suffering and death?
3. What is the meaning or essence of life?
Interested in genuinely exploring the answers? You can reach me on 08127535149.
Hold on a bit...make sure you have all relevant information before deciding.
Best Wishes. |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by OLULAW: 12:27pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
MJBOLT:
gradually people will wake up and realise religion is a scam and there is no god anywhere.
You’re right. Some of us have already encountered the enlightenment. I’m currently writing a book on the subject of religion being a scam using the example of the true to life story of a religious leader. Sadly whilst Europeans have woken up to this reality, Africans in particular are continuously blindfolded. Imagine the Church is alive in Europe thanks to African migrants, in the main. 7 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by WebSurfer(m): 12:27pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Derrinclay:
Bro you wrote my mind too.But to deny the existence of God is to deny my own existence, I c a lot of suffering, Innocent people dying, I see people who thought God healed them of cancer only for the cancer to resurface years later and they end up dead,I see people giving testimonies how God saved them from accidents,sickness etc only for them to still die from those things or even worst things, everything looks so random,so so random. God help me to understand you. Man created God because they had no explanations for the landforms and geography of this world bro. But not anymore, in 2019 where there are alot of informations to understanding the above 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by sdavirus: 12:27pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
No one needs validation from anyone. Whatever you wanna do, just do it. You came to the world alone, you will die alone. If you believe in judgement, you will be judged alone. Why all these long epistle cos you wanna swap a belief system?
We tend to make life complicated for ourselves.
It's a free world. Make your choices and stick to the consequences if there will be any.
Simple 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Goldenheart002(f): 12:27pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Roycemadeit:
Incredible but wait.
Who is defining what sin is?
There's nothing like sin, what there is, is that which doesn't serve our highest interest.
And yet again every religion strongly believe theirs is the only way to God.
Separatism breeds Chaos.
God's wish is for us to come to this understanding that you and I are one, that we are not separate but one, whatsoever I do, should be in best thought of us.
There's nothing like sin? Do u mean it's okay to kill, steal, rape, do all sorts of evil and be cool?? I need clarification, pls 2 Likes |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by Dididrumz(m): 12:27pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
englishmart:
I love this kind of reasoning, but sadly, religion has divided us more than it has unified us Thats the number one essence of religion, to cause division amongst humans. 1 Like |
| Re: 4 Reasons I'm Considering Becoming An Atheist by whitelotus: 12:27pm On Dec 30, 2019 |
Infomaz:
I understand and sympathize with your dilemma. You're yet to find answers to life's fundamental questions:
1. Where do we come from? Why am I here? Where am I going to?
2. If God is love, why so much pain, suffering and death?
3. What is the meaning or essence of life?
Interested in genuinely exploring the answers? You can reach me on 08127535149.
Hold on a bit...make sure you have all relevant information before deciding.
Best Wishes. Why not post your information here for all to learn? |
