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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by fraymite: 1:34pm On Jan 02, 2020
I am a Muslim, but I will rather ask Toheeb and other Muslims to quit this Adeleke University and go for a good Muslim private universities. Why are Muslims like going to Christian schools when there are good Muslim schools of equal standards? I sense that parents of Toheeb and others like this don't practice Islam every seconds. If they do they will not allow their wards to attend even a small tainted Christianity school talk less of strong ones. Parents should not be a Muslim by mere name, they should be a strong believer and this will let them have rethink of any plan they have for their children.

Meanwhile those abusing Toheeb I hope you will be able to use the same strength in abusing future john if he is found in any Muslim settings. I mean you will not call it tribalism or intolerance.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Kokoebapluse(m): 1:34pm On Jan 02, 2020
uninspired07:


Bro, on the issue of whether Christians are marginalized in Muslim schools, there’s no way to verify that as not many Christians attend Muslim schools.

As for the issue at hand, I want to ask you a question & it will determine where the problem is coming from: if you were the Muslim student & you mistakenly enrolled in a Christian & now realized that you might not be so free to disobey the rules & regulations of attending Christian fellowship, what will be your next action to remedy the whole issue?

Please answer my question with the utmost honesty.

Does school management know that am a Muslim or not? During school registration did I told them am a Muslim or not? Why they don't reject since registration till I start lecture that the school is for Christian only? Why they collect school fees from me since they know am a Muslim and they don't need Muslim in that school?

Before you enter school you have personal data record and fille that school will record about you, or are you trying to say the boy did not do registration in that school or his religion did not show on jamb before school give him admission?

Then why they want the boy to go church by force since they know is a Muslim and they accept him into school. Why must he attended the church
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by sleekbae: 1:35pm On Jan 02, 2020
Excuses....did you did their rules and regulations or not.....
Iamsolslim:
I'm also a student at that same school,b4 u get admission they make it look like neutral school for all religion. but omo when u enter nah then u go kno what up.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by uninspired07: 1:36pm On Jan 02, 2020
LegendHer0:


Uninspired07 needs our help as Yorubas. We shouldn’t scold him too much but try to let him see the religious bigotry is his words and actions.

I’m sure he will make use of one or two words from what we have said today to shape his thinking and he will always remember omoluabi supersedes religious divide.

If he travels out (he might be based abroad too), he will understand that his first point of contact will be the Yorubas either Christian or Muslims. Those guys from other ethnicity he’s trying to form familiarity with just because they are Christians will tell him they see Yorubas as one and that is when his eyes will clear to the reality of life.

OMG, you don’t understand me at all ooo. I know you’re referring to the Igbos but you might not know that I feel the same way you feel about them. We are all the same to the Igbos, whether Muslim or Christian—they feel we are betrayers who collude with the Hausas to kill & subjugate then. I know how they feel & I understand.

As for whether I want to align with them, I ask you:why do you think it’s wrong for Christians of Yoruba origin to feel safe & at times align with them while it is right for our Muslim brothers to align & always support the Muslim north even if the Hausas kill our leaders every time & destroy the objectives of the south for a better Nigeria? You see that there’s double standards there?

As for whether I am a traitor to the Yoruba cause, there’s nothing further from the truth because I love my tribe more than anything else & I would like to come back to life as a Yoruba man if I have that opportunity. What we need to do as a race/people is to uphold our secularity & allow everyone practice his faith with freedom. That is what has taken us this far & if we allow extremists to permeate our unity, we may never survive the repercussions. As corrupt as Tinubu is, what you cannot accuse him of is being a bigot. The man doesn’t care about your religion as long as you’re a Yoruba man & that is what a true leader should be made of. But you see people like Aregbesola & prof Akintola should be ignored & left at the fringes of our society because they are the agents of division that millions of Christians secretly fear.

Kosi wahala my brother.

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Malcolm123: 1:37pm On Jan 02, 2020
LegendHer0:


I’m telling you. I don’t know what went wrong with him to have that kind of thinking.

Anytime my mom calls me she will tell me that “omo mi ma gbadura, boya ni lana christeni abi musulumi, sha ma make sure pe on gbadura”

That tells us that even our parents don’t see the differences and I’m but short of words why the youths that out to be more liberal than our parents are trying to cause unnecessary divisions.


As we dey abuse north reach ...if indimi family call you to come and collect money u will not go

Abi make GEJ/PMB call you for contract because you dey Oda party you go reject am .....dat is y rich ppl no care about religion na only wat will enrich Dem more
No way any effort by any person the world will neva practice a single religion (even inside religion sef branches dey)

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by OmoNla99: 1:37pm On Jan 02, 2020
Malcolm123:




If there is religion intolerant by the southern Christian ..you defend it ...if by northern Muslim you condemn it .... hypocrite everywhere ....
I've not said I supported the university action, but the young man here knew from the beginning what he is getting into before he was admitted. He asked this question during screening interview. I wouldn't go up north and disobey any of their rules (if there is any)

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Kokoebapluse(m): 1:39pm On Jan 02, 2020
uninspired07:


Reason that what? Are we not reasoning?

What did the university do wrong? And now that the student had found out that the university is a Christian University with rules & regulations, what should the student do?

I want you to answer the question honestly.

Does school know that he was a Muslim? And they collect school fees from him?

then the boy have right not to go to church because he pay for education only not church.

Or you want to tell me that during school registration the boy did not tell school management that he was a Muslim? Why they don't dine him admissions? Or what do they think before?
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Isahalbash(m): 1:40pm On Jan 02, 2020
Gforce2019:


Show me one Muslim that contributed to the western education. They can only build on the structure that was already on the ground.
Your religion objected to western education that's reason why we have Boko Haram in Nigeria i.e the sects against western education.


Any proof from the Quran?
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by uninspired07: 1:41pm On Jan 02, 2020
Kokoebapluse:


Does school management know that am a Muslim or not? During school registration did I told them am a Muslim or not? Why they don't reject since registration till I start lecture that the school is for Christian only? Why they collect school fees from me since they know am a Muslim and they don't need Muslim in that school?

Before you enter school you have personal data record and fille that school will record about you, or are you trying to say the boy did not do registration in that school or his religion did not show on jamb before school give him admission?

Then why they want the boy to go church by force since they know is a Muslim and they accept him into school. Why must he attended the church

I guess the school didn’t want to be discriminatory in their admission criteria. I am sure that if it is clearly stated that muslims are prohibited from attending the school, the Muslims in the country will cry blue murder & threaten to burn the school down.

Now, what I feel happened was that the student was shown the rules & regulations of the school & he accepted to abide by them but now turn midway to say he’s a Muslim & can no longer attend church services. This is an egregious breach of the agreement he signed when he wanted to enrol into the school & even the law courts cannot construe the agreement otherwise. He signed up to attend church services as a student of Adeleke University & he shouldn’t resile from that agreement midway.

The solution now is either for him to accept to abide by the rules of for him to withdraw his admission to the school.

There’s no controversy in this case at all at all.

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by sleekbae: 1:41pm On Jan 02, 2020
Lmao grin
farem:


is it by force to go to a Christian school?

Your answer to that guarantees your deliverance

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by uninspired07: 1:42pm On Jan 02, 2020
Kokoebapluse:


Does school know that he was a Muslim? And they collect school fees from him?

then the boy have right not to go to church because he pay for education only not church.

Or you want to tell me that during school registration the boy did not tell school management that he was a Muslim? Why they don't dine him admissions? Or what do they think before?

Sir, I have addressed this in an earlier post. You’d do well to check it out. Maybe next time the university should state clearly that it doesn’t admit Muslims—that’s if you don’t turn around & scream blue murder again.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Kokoebapluse(m): 1:43pm On Jan 02, 2020
OmoNla99:

Interesting how you told me to use my head, hope you are using yours correctly. Its not going to do you any damage If you read the part I told you, where Lawal Toheeb asked a very serious question and school stood their grounds before he signed up to be a student. you will know he knew what he was signing for from the beginning. Rules are rules. There are no sin in a country without rules.


Do school management also know that he was a Muslim during his registration? And they register him as muslim student?

If yes that boy get right to sue the school over fraud, for they collect school fees from him and don't allow him to enter class.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Malcolm123: 1:43pm On Jan 02, 2020
uninspired07:


OMG, you don’t understand me at all ooo. I know you’re referring to the Igbos but you might not know that I feel the same way you feel about them. We are all the same to the Igbos, whether Muslim or Christian—they feel we are betrayers who collude with the Hausas to kill & subjugate then. I know how they feel & I understand.

As for whether I want to align with them, I ask you:why do you think it’s wrong for Christians of Yoruba origin to feel safe & at times align with them while it is right for our Muslim brothers to align & always support the Muslim north even if the Hausas kill our leaders every time & destroy the objectives of the south for a better Nigeria? You see that there’s double standards there?

As for whether I am a traitor to the Yoruba cause, there’s nothing further from the truth because I love my tribe more than anything else & I would like to come back to life as a Yoruba man if I have that opportunity. What we need to do as a race/people is to uphold our secularity & allow everyone practice his faith with freedom. That is what has taken us this far & if we allow extremists to permeate our unity, we may never survive the repercussions. As corrupt as Tinubu is, what you cannot accuse him of is being a bigot. The man doesn’t care about your religion as long as you’re a Yoruba man & that is what a true leader should be made of. But you see people like Aregbesola & prof Akintola should be ignored & left at the fringes of our society because they are the agents of division that millions of Christians secretly fear.

Jodi wahala my brother.


Wat I just want to tell u is judge/relate with ppl individually ....trying to carry hatred for billions of ppl or shouting wars up and down (because some ppl no practice your religion ) is not way to go
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by sleekbae: 1:45pm On Jan 02, 2020
If this goes viral it will end well for them because

It is on the school website that it is a faith based organization.
It is a private institution and reserves the right to their laid down rules and regulations.
bluebay:
Am..a Christian and I'll say I don't support this. You can't force the Muslims to go to school chapel. How will you feel if your daughter who is a Christian to me forced to pertake in mosque activities? The suspensions is totally uncalled for and am certain it won't end well for the school, if this case goes viral .
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by uninspired07: 1:45pm On Jan 02, 2020
fraymite:
I am a Muslim, but I will rather ask Toheeb and other Muslims to quit this Adeleke University and go for a good Muslim private universities. Why are Muslims like going to Christian schools when there are good Muslim schools of equal standards? I sense that parents of Toheeb and others like this don't practice Islam every seconds. If they do they will not allow their wards to attend even a small tainted Christianity school talk less of strong ones. Parents should not be a Muslim by mere name, they should be a strong believer and this will let them have rethink of any plan they have for their children.

Meanwhile those abusing Toheeb I hope you will be able to use the same strength in abusing future john if he is found in any Muslim settings. I mean you will not call it tribalism or intolerance.

For being an objective Muslim, may Almighty Allah bless you.

This is exactly what we have been telling our Muslim brothers.

This is a very simple matter. No need for all the fight & insults at all.

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by uninspired07: 1:46pm On Jan 02, 2020
Malcolm123:



Wat I just want to tell u is judge/relate with ppl individually ....trying to carry hatred for billions of ppl or shouting wars up and down (because some ppl no practice your religion ) is not way to go

I am not shouting wars or carrying hate around for billons of people.

But I admit I am carrying fear/phobia for the religion. It is not the same thing with hate sir.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by DavidEsq(m): 1:46pm On Jan 02, 2020
This what happens when u join secular activities with religious activities. Jesus Christ said we should we should preach to ppl and baptize them in order for them to be saved. That is the only standard. Nothing less or more. What this school is doing is forcing their religious preference down the students' throats, thereby causing them to have a terrible impression of the gospel of the good news and to also close their hearts to it, whether now or in the future.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Kokoebapluse(m): 1:47pm On Jan 02, 2020
uninspired07:


Sir, I have addressed this in an earlier post. You’d do well to check it out. Maybe next time the university should state clearly that it doesn’t admit Muslims—that’s if you don’t turn around & scream blue murder again.

The school management should be the one to blame not the boy, if you know you only want Christian in your school don't mix up with Muslim, if you want your school only girls don't give two or three boys admission because anything that happened in the school you re the one that cause it, so the boy have his right and he have right to sue the school, because he told them clearly that he is a Muslim then why they give him admission?
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by zoedew: 1:49pm On Jan 02, 2020
Alexaonfleek:
No one forced him to apply for the school in jamb.

If he's not comfortable there he should go to a government owned uni,or better still crescent university or alikmah university instead of causing trouble.

I don't know why anyone would choose to go to a university where he/she can't practice their religion in peace


He is using Taqqiya.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by uninspired07: 1:50pm On Jan 02, 2020
Malcolm123:



Asin I don memorize the guy moniker on top hatred from Muslims ....I dey try explain thing to him ....personal interest govern the world not religion ...y is russia defending Syria and Iran .....y is USA and Saudi friends...y is France and Qatar Ally ...all na interest .....buh my guy thing say everything for world na Muslim vs Christian

Well, I guess that’s my islamophobia screaming through.

I am not the only one with that ailment. Billions of people in the world have that ailment too but they might not want to voice it or show it.

You can’t blame us for the fear & suspicion. We see acts that reinforces our fear everyday. Even this case at hand further reinforces that fear.

It’s nothing personal bro.

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by LegendHer0: 1:51pm On Jan 02, 2020
uninspired07:


OMG, you don’t understand me at all ooo. I know you’re referring to the Igbos but you might not know that I feel the same way you feel about them. We are all the same to the Igbos, whether Muslim or Christian—they feel we are betrayers who collude with the Hausas to kill & subjugate then. I know how they feel & I understand.

As for whether I want to align with them, I ask you:why do you think it’s wrong for Christians of Yoruba origin to feel safe & at times align with them while it is right for our Muslim brothers to align & always support the Muslim north even if the Hausas kill our leaders every time & destroy the objectives of the south for a better Nigeria? You see that there’s double standards there?

As for whether I am a traitor to the Yoruba cause, there’s nothing further from the truth because I love my tribe more than anything else & I would like to come back to life as a Yoruba man if I have that opportunity. What we need to do as a race/people is to uphold our secularity & allow everyone practice his faith with freedom. That is what has taken us this far & if we allow extremists to permeate our unity, we may never survive the repercussions. As corrupt as Tinubu is, what you cannot accuse him of is being a bigot. The man doesn’t care about your religion as long as you’re a Yoruba man & that is what a true leader should be made of. But you see people like Aregbesola & prof Akintola should be ignored & left at the fringes of our society because they are the agents of division that millions of Christians secretly fear.

Kosi wahala my brother.

@the first bolded, Can you give an example of where the Muslim yorubas support the north when they killed our leaders? I’m willing to learn.

@the second bolded, you are gradually becoming like MURIC and Aregbesola in your thinking and the only differences between both of you is that you’re still not popular across Nigeria or held any political post.

If MURIC calls on Muslims today that all Yoruba Muslims should severe ties with the Christians and move to live in the North, what will be your reaction?

Also note that the Yorubas have always been christainised right from the onset just that we muslims are not alarmists. Let me give just 3 cases.

I attended a private secular primary school owned by a a Muslim proprietress and our morning assembly songs are always Christian songs. Infact that is the standard for most secular primaries schools even government owned school where we sing Christian songs on assembly ground except fridays.

In my secondary school, the same thing happened and they don’t care whether you’re Christian or Muslim before we sing from our SOP (song of praise) book. No parent care about that since we don’t reek in bigotry.

In my university days as an undergrad, the jehovah witness guys always knock on my door and preach Christianity to me, even if you tell them you are Muslims they don’t care. They will always try to preach and change your ideology. If Muslims have been knocking Christians doors the whole media space would have been shouting shariah shariah.

Some Christians in the SW are starting to behave like bigots and I think we should all thread with caution coz if we destroy the peace among us now, our ancestors and upcoming generations will never forgive us.

That’s my own
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by uninspired07: 1:52pm On Jan 02, 2020
DavidEsq:
This what happens when u join secular activities with religious activities. Jesus Christ said we should we should preach to ppl and baptize them in order for them to be saved. That is the only standard. Nothing less or more. What this school is doing is forcing their religious preference down the students' throats, thereby causing them to have a terrible impression of the gospel of the good news and to also close their hearts to it, whether now or in the future.

I think you got it wrong. Faith based schools the world over operated based on certain strict rules & regulations.

The same cannot be said of public schools that are secular in their funding & enabling statutes.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Malcolm123: 1:52pm On Jan 02, 2020
DavidEsq:
This what happens when u join secular activities with religious activities. Jesus Christ said we should we should preach to ppl and baptize them in order for them to be saved. That is the only standard. Nothing less or more. What this school is doing is forcing their religious preference down the students' throats, thereby causing them to have a terrible impression of the gospel of the good news and to also close their hearts to it, whether now or in the future.


Asin I tire ...he be lyk day make Muslim tell you say u must fast during ramadan by force will dat make you love or even hate the religion the more .......even oyinbo wey bring Christianity sef ...Dem no force am on top traditionalist na through charity lyk build school or hospital
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by lereinter(m): 1:53pm On Jan 02, 2020
Kokoebapluse:



What a rubbish is this?

When they want to register it was it called school or church? Don't you know different from school and church?

Later you Christian will be shouting Muslim don't tenorate, have you seen any Muslim school punish student for not attending mosque? Christian are evil and everybody know that.

Well I don't blame them, I blame Muslim who associate themselves with Christian

How have muslims been tolerant?

Go and google how many Christians that have been killed by muslims in the name of religion in Nigeria and abroad.

the Bar school wahala, the isi Ibadan wahala etc

Tell me how islam have been tolerant.



Have you ever had that a Christian took his/her ward to a islamic faith school.

Nobody is forcing you to associate with Christian.

what has darkness have to do with light.

Remember how your mentors have died, bin laden, Abu baghadi. Yours sincerely won't be an exception.

Islam is a satanic religion.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Neoteny(m): 1:53pm On Jan 02, 2020
It's a private school, and they can largely what they want if it's not illegal or immoral. Besides, he's fully aware of their programs before he joined, so he alone is responsible for the mess he's in.

That being said, i wonder what it could've been should a Muslim school compel a Christian student to attend Islamic studies.

There'd be FFK, Apostate Suleiman, Oyedepo, CAN, and such all up in arms shouting blue murder about islamization and fulanization agenda.

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by LegendHer0: 1:55pm On Jan 02, 2020
uninspired07:


I think you got it wrong. Faith based schools the world over operated based on certain strict rules & regulations.

The same cannot be said of public schools that are secular in their funding & enabling statutes.

Let me ask you a question:

What is the function of a university? Even the faith based schools, what is their core objectives?

To convert an adherent to the Christian Faith or to build scholars and professionals?
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by Malcolm123: 1:55pm On Jan 02, 2020
uninspired07:


I think you got it wrong. Faith based schools the world over operated based on certain strict rules & regulations.

The same cannot be said of public schools that are secular in their funding & enabling statutes.


Forcing someone to pray or sing ...wat will dat really acheive......make Dem 7 day Adventist member ...I doubt it
You don't force ppl to worship God ....because worshipping need sincerity
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by damoobaba: 1:57pm On Jan 02, 2020
2special:
They will go to a Christian university and be causing problems there after accepting the rules and regulations before admission.

Don't mind them,Hypocrites

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Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by oloyede90(m): 1:57pm On Jan 02, 2020
Typing error!!! Is Adeleke university a Christian university? I have been there to submit application and I didn't see it as a christian only university
philip0906:

Lol...what rock did you crawl out from? You thought Adeleke uni was a government school?
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by sleekbae: 1:57pm On Jan 02, 2020
Islam is not written on anyone's forehead. It is the duty of the prospective student to make their diligent research.
smailon:


It will be wise then, if they don't accept muslim prospects rather forcing their faith on them.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by LegendHer0: 1:58pm On Jan 02, 2020
Malcolm123:



Forcing someone to pray or sing ...wat will dat really acheive......make Dem 7 day Adventist member ...I doubt it
You don't force ppl to worship God ....because worshipping need sincerity

God bless you.
When I was young, my dad always force us to perform solat (Irun). He will wake us up as early as 5:30am everyday and rather than we performing the solat willingly, that action made us hate solat more coz to us he is trying to force us against our will.

When he knew that action is not working he left us to our fate and told us we will start doing solat 5times daily on our own when we know it’s benefit ourselves.

Now no one tells me when to do solat coz it’s now part of me. I started praying daily on my own accord. Same can be said for my brothers. I only stopped doing solat that much when I traveled out coz the nature of work is not encouraging and mosque is very far from where I live.

The moral of the story is that you can’t force a human being against his will and expect true submission.
Re: Adeleke University Suspends Muslim Student For Not Attending School Chapel by ItooWorWor(m): 2:00pm On Jan 02, 2020
LegendHer0:


I’m telling you. I don’t know what went wrong with him to have that kind of thinking.

Anytime my mom calls me she will tell me that “omo mi ma gbadura, boya ni lana christeni abi musulumi, sha ma make sure pe on gbadura”

That tells us that even our parents don’t see the differences and I’m but short of words why the youths that out to be more liberal than our parents are trying to cause unnecessary divisions.
You can't blame them, the north are the ones giving Islam a bad name.

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