Efesogie:

For an etymology to exist, you need ancient dictionnaries, we have no such thing in our region of the world.
Our ancestors didn't write. They had other systems.
So it makes no sense to talk about ethymology in our case.
Dictionnaries of our languages are all recent creations.

that's why you have linguist experts in that field.
Eg. A lot of words presumed to have been used in the Proto-Indo-European language have been sourced out without the use of any ancient dictionary

Efesogie:


What type of fool debates extremely well known facts?
This is not even history. All these are contemporary events. Even governor Obaseki will never have the audacity to claim his grand father, my mom's grand father was ever Oba. He was Iyase.
It is the Oba of Benin (Oba Ovonramwen) who made the title Obaseki for him and which he and his descendents started to use as family name.
Anybody with a minimum of knowledge about Benin Kingdom knows all these.
You know what, keep repeating your folly, like this everybody can see you are a fraud.
By the way, my grand father's name is Efesogie Nofua, one of the sons of Chief Agho Obaseki. Late Efesogie Nofua Obaseki was my mother's father.
You are here debating people about their own families acting as if you know us better than we know ourselves.
What a fool, you might as well start debating the color of the sky, or go to the nearest person and debate his name with him.

You are such a fool, even common english you can't understand.
"Interregnum", I have already told what it means.

Keep committing the strawman fallacy while pretending to be a ret@rd.

I have repeatedly claimed that he was made an acting/interim Oba of Benin by the British Government immediately following Ovanramwen's exile.

"Acting" and "Interim" are the precise words I've repeatedly used, and used by your Edonet sources. Stop pretending to blind to them, and stop trying to spin the debate into what I never talked about.

In any case, the single fact that he was installed as an acting Oba almost immediately after Ovanramwen's exile until 1914 disproves your contention that there was an absolute vacuum in the Benin palace.

Moreover, the single fact that Eweka 2 (who began to reign as the Oba from 1914) came to rebuild the razed palace shows clearly there was a palace from which he ruled in his early years before his rebuilding project took efect.

In other words, there was a palace where the acting Oba, Agho Ogbedeoyo ---- from whom Eweka 2 took over ---- ruled Benin kingdom from.

These two foregoing facts alone destroy the sentiment you've been pushing that Benin kingdom had neither a palace nor a ruler in 1903 from where a ruler would have exited to honour the then Ooni's visit to Lagos.

Moreover, I'm still waiting for you to demostrate how your contention ---- which although have been debunked ---- proves that the kings of the Southern Protectorate (from Warri westward) did not in fact vacate their respective palaces in honour of the then Ooni's visit to Lagos as documented in the 1903 Government Gazette.

macof:
that's why you have linguist experts in that field.
Eg. A lot of words presumed to have been used in the Proto-Indo-European language have been sourced out without the use of any ancient dictionary

His contention on etymology isn't worth replying to. It reeks of ignorance.

His basic argument is that a group of people have absolutely no idea where their own words derive from unless some dictionary tells them.

What can be more absurd?

Olu317:
I understand your point on diacritics though, there are diversity in Yoruba land . And I am sure, diacritics are the most difficult to insert on Yoruba lexicons because so many homonyms in Yoruba language. Despite, this, I am sure you know accents differs from one enclave to others in Yoruba land.Albeit, I will post some screenshot from a dictionary, that has some of the analysis above.

Let me use this opportunity to post another false cognate between Ibo and Yoruba

Ibo:Ututu
Meaning: morning

Yoruba: Otutu(ututu)
Meaning:cold chilled, chilly, freezing, icy, cool

When Yoruba is written then there is a standard form.

Tonal variation dissipates in Yoruba writing. The standardized writting mode of Yoruba language is one and only one --- And it is what I have shown up there.

Moreover, none of your diacritics which I corrected conforms to any known Yoruba dialect for the same meaning of words you intended.

Peace!

TAO11:


You are the same fool yesterday, today, and forever.

Please point out where I had claimed that he wore a crown?

Please point out where I had claimed that your edonet said he wore a crown?

You're obviously responding to a strawman and not to my argument.

As I have repeatedly written, the article clearly says he "acted as the Oba of Benin during the interregnum, 1897-1914".

How clearer must I and your edonet article be before you realize that crown has absolutely nothing to do with my argument??

For the umpteenth time Agho Ogbedeoyo was installed (by the British Governmnet) to act in the capacity of Oba of Benin just immediately after Ovanramwen's expulsion.

And this lone fact destroys the sentiment you were trying to push (with your second moniker) that Benin kingdom had no palace and no ruler around the year 1903.

No, Benin Kingdom did have a palace around the year 1903, from where Agho Ogbedeoye ruled, and from where Eweka 2 also later ruled prior to his rebuilding of the ruins of the razed palace.

You've obviously been blinded by your prejudice which obviously resulted frim the hell that you've been made to go through at my hands in the past.

May you be alright and be able to forget the past!

Find attached below from your own indigenous source:

That part is settled now , i felt the your panic when i mentioned you ,you were so carefull not to misinform,

Anyway the ordeal has been settled obaseki wasnt the oba but acted as one in the oba absent so vacating his stool for the ooni for a protest was is own personal doing and can't be equated to the throne or the oba of benin, and even if the oba was on sit
And carried out such action it will be because of father( benin) to son (ife) sympathy

TAO11:


When Yoruba is written then there is a standard form.

Tonal variation dissipates in Yoruba writing. The standardized writting mode of Yoruba language is one and only one --- And it is what I have shown up there.

Moreover, none of your diacritics which I corrected conforms to any known Yoruba dialect for the same meaning of words you intended.

Peace!

Yoruba does not have a standard form because, Oyo dialect is the written form which is not the best of it all. After all, you mentioned old Yoruba dialects within the context of Ijebu or Eastern Yoruba, which I agree with. Take for instance, Ode(though I didnt put diacritics) in Oyo is ( Outing/to go for a party).While, Eastern Yoruba call Ode as base or foundation. Certainly, you will understand my point even if I have no intention to discredit Oyo's dialect, because there were problems with standardization of Yoruba language. In all school of thought,all Yoruba dialects are standard because non is greater than the other.

It is based on this knowledge that repeatedly, I have gone far to understudy Eastern, Oyo and other dialects which is the classical Hebrew! I am sure ,you won't be comfortable and I wont push you beyond our boundaries,in the same manner some set of people disagreed with, simply because they can't read it. Having opined this,it doesn't mean, you or anyone can't read it if such have someone who can put such person through to it. All that's important, is interest and perseverance to understanding it.

Furthermore, to expose you to my point on the diacritics, here is Sun in Yoruba language inside a dictionary that's over century old.

Below is , ‘Sun' in Yoruba language, which is screenshot.Even,with error in certain disagreement in diacritics, I will categorically emphasise here, that there is no way with my vast knowledge in classic Semitic language that I can't solve certain ideograms. Let me clearly affirm here that the purpose of showcasing this information is to keep people abreast with reality about ancient Yoruba people.

macof:
that's why you have linguist experts in that field.
Eg. A lot of words presumed to have been used in the Proto-Indo-European language have been sourced out without the use of any ancient dictionary

You can't have an etimology for languages whose words have only recently started to be written.
You guys should stop pretending to know what you don't. Africa needs knowledge, education, not fraudsters preying on the credulity of some young or uneducated Africans. You guys are taking Africa backwards to satisfy your low self esteem. Pity.
Bring education, not lies and trolling and propaganda.

gregyboy:



That part is settled now , i felt the your panic when i mentioned you ,you were so carefull not to misinform,

Anyway the ordeal has been settled obaseki wasnt the oba but acted as one in the oba absent so vacating his stool for the ooni for a protest was is own personal doing and can't be equated to the throne or the oba of benin, and even if the oba was on sit
And carried out such action it will be because of father to son sympathy

Don't allow his trolling get to you.
You seem tired of talking to the troll and you are now ready to make a deal with his lies to avoid his trolling.
1) Chief Agho Obaseki was Iyase, not Oba.
2) Being crowned means being made king.
3) There was no palace when the actual palace was burnt down.
4) Nobody in Benin empire left his sit "when they heard ooni of ife" was summoned to Lagos.
5) stop trying to cut a deal with liars, if you are tired of talking to the Yoruba trolls then just don't talk to them. Their main thing is to try to talk about a period which is mostly unknown and then claim things took place in that period without bringing any proof whatsoever.
This is an easy trick. Unfortunately for them, this period of time is very well known, just not to most ill educated Nigerians.
Google will never replace education.

gregyboy:



That part is settled now , i felt the your panic when i mentioned you ,you were so carefull not to misinform,

Anyway the ordeal has been settled obaseki wasnt the oba but acted as one in the oba absent so vacating his stool for the ooni for a protest was is own personal doing and can't be equated to the throne or the oba of benin, and even if the oba was on sit
And carried out such action it will be because of father to son sympathy

First: You didn't mention me. Whom you mentioned was a certain TAOF. The so-called "panic" is therefore only in your wildest imagination.

Second: "That part (which you noted that) is settled now" has always been my point which I have made repeatedly. It is you who have just relieved yourself from some of your prejudices.

Third: Your point (that the Oba of Benin wouldn't have vacated his throne to honour the Ooni) is at best a moot point.

And your point about the father--son relationship between the Ooni (the father) and the Oba of Benin (the son) is also true.

Cheers!

Olu317:
Yoruba does not have a standard form because, Oyo dialect is the written form which is not the best of it all. After all, you mentioned old Yoruba dialects within the context of Ijebu or Eastern Yoruba, which I agree with. Take for instance, Ode(though I didnt put diacritics) in Oyo is ( Outing/to go for a party).While, Eastern Yoruba call Ode as base or foundation. Certainly, you will understand my point even if I have no intention to discredit Oyo's dialect, because there were problems with standardization of Yoruba language. In all school of thought,all Yoruba dialects are standard because non is greater than the other.

It is based on this knowledge that repeatedly, I have gone far to understudy Eastern, Oyo and other dialects which is the classical Hebrew! I am sure ,you won't be comfortable and I wont push you beyond our boundaries,in the same manner some set of people disagreed with, simply because they can't read it. Having opined this,it doesn't mean, you or anyone can't read it if such have someone who can put such person through to it. All that's important, is interest and perseverance to understanding it.

Furthermore, to expose you to my point on the diacritics, here is Sun in Yoruba language inside a dictionary that's over century old.

My point is: There is a standard written form.

Emphasis on written. You seem to have missed that which is the critical aspect of my point.

Also, on the last part of your comment which relates to the Yoruba dictionary:

Please note that there is absolutely NO mention of "SUN" (in Yoruba language) in the Yoruba dictionary you attached.

The words you highlighted in the dictionary are NOT the Yoruba words for "SUN". They are entirely different words, and their diacritics are perfect.

Cheers!

Efesogie:


Don't allow his trolling get to you.
You seem tired of talking to the troll and you are now ready to make a deal with his lies to avoid his trolling.
1) Chief Agho Obaseki was Iyase, not Oba.
2) Being crowned means being made king.
3) There was no palace when the actual palace was burnt down.
4) Nobody in Benin empire left his sit "when they heard ooni of ife" was summoned to Lagos.
5) stop trying to cut a deal with liars, if you are tired of talking to the Yoruba trolls then just don't talk to them. Their main thing is to try to talk about a period which is mostly unknown and then claim things took place in that period without bringing any proof whatsoever.
This is an easy trick. Unfortunately for them, this period of time is very well known, just not to most I'll educated Nigerians.
Google will never replace education.

Yea you're right am sick and tired quoting this guys my hands hurt and my eyes

I doubt if such occurence even occured ,even it occured it is likely for the oba if it happened he was present to even show a form of respect to the oni as sympathy father to son but is very unlikely for your greatgrand dad to make such move he will be so irritated if such news even get to him
As for the agho obaseki we know in history is very unlikely he wouke respect the ordeal....

I keep telling the Yoruba's that history is empty for them they shouldn't bother rewriting the little ones they made, because it will totally damage the ones they made ,and they will end up left with non to say at the end of the day , a yoruba person can never write ,Yoruba history without including benin to top it,
If benin is not added the history wont have weight

They keep using the oduduwa history to tire thier history to ours ,benins have made history leave it like that , the present world has giving yoruba upper hand to write a good history they never had but instead they rather remain slaves to the fulani people ,

Someone should tell them if benins had the population they have the fulanis would have longed pack to thier original homeland or the country would have been way longed divided by now

Olu317:
Below is , ‘Sun' in Yoruba language, which is screenshot.Even,with error in certain disagreement in diacritics, I will categorically emphasise here, that there is no way with my vast knowledge in classic Semitic language that I can't solve certain ideograms. Let me clearly affirm here that the purpose of showcasing this information is to keep people abreast with reality about ancient Yoruba people.

Yes, notice that the sign atop the letter "O" in "Orun" as shown in the dictionary is neither of the Yoruba sound diacritics, namely: "do", "re", or "mi".

This specific sign (~) speaks to something entirely different from Yoruba sounds. It speaks to the choice (or freedom) to elongate the letter it's atop.

Recall your argument with the other guy on "Aaro" or "Aro". Both are perfectly correct, and that's what the sign (~) relates to. This sign says nothing about how the letter should sound.


Having said that, you had written the following earlier:

"100% accurate that Sanmo is loaned from Arabic lexicon. The indigenous word for Orú (sun) is derived from ọrún(sky) which is interwoven with Orù(heat)...

The boldened diacritics above actually doesn't correspond to the actual diacritics (not the elongation sign) specified in the attached dictionary.

Cheers!

Sun: Oorun

Sky: Orun

Heat: Oru

Smell: Oorun

gregyboy:


... And carried out such action it will be because of father( benin) to son (ife) sympathy

Does the following look familiar to you??


This false Bini forgery and propaganda of the 1970s (that Oduduwa was one and the same person as a certain wandering Ekaladerhan) have been debunked, again and again, by historians the world-over.

This myth has long been busted and have long been dismissed and forgotten in academia (as apocryphal, pseudo-historical, and unauthentic), except among Benin Nairalanders.


For example, the world-renowned scholar and expert of Benin History, Dmitri M. Bondarenko, of the Institute for African Studies in the Russian Academy of Sciences, writes and I quote here:


"Finally, there are the APOCRYPHAL versions of Benin oral tradition. ... (wherein) Ekaladerhan ... Some time later ... left Gwato for Ife."

D. M. Bondarenko continues:

"According to other versions of the kind, after leaving Gwato, Ekaladerhan founded another settlement, Ile-Ife and became her first ruler under the name of Oduduwa."

After having thoroughly combed through the different versions of this Apocryphal account, D. M. Bondarenko wrapped up his assessment of this account by noting that:

"However, a student of ancient Benin might feel obliged to REJECT the APOCRYPHAL versions without hesitation as deliberately UNAUTHENTIC. There are no their records made before the early 1970s ..."

This Apocryphal and unauthentic account which says that Ekalederhan became king in Ife are non-existent before the 1970s, he said.

He then puts the final nail in the coffin by submitting that:

"There is no doubt that the APOCRYPHAL versions are NOT AUTHENTIC and are not popular. Their authors are representatives of the nationalistically-minded part of the Bini intelligentsia who are seeking to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the socio political life of independent Nigeria ... Behind such PSEUDOHISTORICAL studies by intellectuals, as if harmless, one can make out serious problems for the country ..."


Refer for details to: 

Dmitri M. Bondarenko, "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30 (2003), pp. 67 - 68, Cambridge University Press.

gregyboy:



Yea you're right am sick and tired quoting this guys my hands hurt and my eyes

I doubt if such occurence even occured ,even it occured it is likely for the oba if it happened he was present to even show a form of respect to the oni as sympathy father to son but is very unlikely for your greatgrand dad to make such move he will be so irritated if such news even get to him
As for the agho obaseki we know in history is very unlikely he wouke respect the ordeal....

I keep telling the Yoruba's that history is empty for them they shouldn't bother rewriting the little ones they made, because it will totally damage the ones they made ,and they will end up left with non to say at the end of the day , a yoruba person can never write ,Yoruba history without including benin to top it,
If benin is not added the history wont have weight

They keep using the oduduwa history to tire thier history to ours ,benins have made history leave it like that , the present world has giving yoruba upper hand to write a good history they never had but instead they rather remain slaves to the fulani people ,

Someone should tell them if benins had the population they have the fulanis would have longed pack to thier original homeland or the country would have been way longed divided by now

Stop reading what the trolls post. They have nothing better to do in life. They are having you waste your time on them. Just make your point and don't bother reading the trolls.

Trolls are low lives who have nothing going on in their lives, so they need a make-believe life on the internet in which they feel alive only when they can push someone to his limits and get emotional responses from the person or force him to hurt himself.
The best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.

TAO11 is a troll.

Yet we know that Benin kingdom paid homage to Ile-Ife.

Refer to time-stamp 47:16 to 49:00 of the British Museum historical documentary below.

The British Museum curator, who I'm dead sure is not a Yoruba, states clearly and unequivocally that the Obas of Benin kingdom paid homage to the sacred city of Ile-Ife.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQY_Jd--pwI&t=2070s

Enjoy!

TAO11:


Yes, notice that the sign atop the letter "O" in "Orun" as shown in the dictionary is neither of the Yoruba sound diacritics, namely: "do", "re", or "mi".

This specific sign (~) speaks to something entirely different from Yoruba sounds. It speaks to the choice (or freedom) to elongate the letter it's atop.

Recall your argument with the other guy on "Aaro" or "Aro". Both are perfectly correct, and that's what the sign (~) relates to. This sign says nothing about how the letter should sound.


Having said that, you had written the following earlier:



The boldened diacritics above actually doesn't correspond to the actual diacritics (not the elongation sign) specified in the attached dictionary.

Cheers!

My knowledge on diacritics is based on French lexicon and I used that to presumably identify my accentuation even if it is seemingly seen as not conformable to you or others .Besides, I'm not a fan of Ajayi crowther's form of standardization that's not too accurate. All said and done. It is well.



Cheers.

We also know that Benin kingdom owes Ife some spiritual allegiance.

We know that the Ooni (called Oghene by the Binis and called Ogané by the Portuguese) has the power to approve or disapprove a new Oba of Benin.


Refer to the attached screenshots below with detailed referencing from Ile-Ife historians world renowned historians.

Efesogie:
Trolls are low lives who have nothing going on in their lives, so they need a make-believe life on the internet in which they feel alive only when they can push someone to his limits and get emotional responses from the person or force him to hurt himself.
The best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them.

TAO11 is a troll.

Get ooooofffff this thread.

Olu317:
My knowledge on diacritics is based on French lexicon and I used that to presumably identify my accentuation even if it is seemingly seen as not conformable to you or others .Besides, I'm not a fan of Ajayi crowther's form of standardization that's not to accurate. All said and done. It is well.



Cheers.

It is well. Cheers.

TAO11:


Does the following look familiar to you??


This false Bini forgery and propaganda of the 1970s (that Oduduwa was one and the same person as a certain wandering Ekaladerhan) have been debunked, again and again, by historians the world-over.

This myth has long been busted and have long been dismissed and forgotten in academia (as apocryphal, pseudo-historical, and unauthentic), except among Benin Nairalanders.


For example, the world-renowned scholar and expert of Benin History, Dmitri M. Bondarenko, of the Institute for African Studies in the Russian Academy of Sciences, writes and I quote here:


"Finally, there are the APOCRYPHAL versions of Benin oral tradition. ... (wherein) Ekaladerhan ... Some time later ... left Gwato for Ife."

D. M. Bondarenko continues:

"According to other versions of the kind, after leaving Gwato, Ekaladerhan founded another settlement, Ile-Ife and became her first ruler under the name of Oduduwa."

After having thoroughly combed through the different versions of this Apocryphal account, D. M. Bondarenko wrapped up his assessment of this account by noting that:

"However, a student of ancient Benin might feel obliged to REJECT the APOCRYPHAL versions without hesitation as deliberately UNAUTHENTIC. There are no their records made before the early 1970s ..."

This Apocryphal and unauthentic account which says that Ekalederhan became king in Ife are non-existent before the 1970s, he said.

He then puts the final nail in the coffin by submitting that:

"There is no doubt that the APOCRYPHAL versions are NOT AUTHENTIC and are not popular. Their authors are representatives of the nationalistically-minded part of the Bini intelligentsia who are seeking to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the socio political life of independent Nigeria ... Behind such PSEUDOHISTORICAL studies by intellectuals, as if harmless, one can make out serious problems for the country ..."


Refer for details to: 

Dmitri M. Bondarenko, "Advent of the Second (Oba) Dynasty: Another Assessment of a Benin History Key Point", History in Africa, Vol. 30 (2003), pp. 67 - 68, Cambridge University Press.

You should be ashamed for quoting a Whiteman on african history....

Thats why your kings surrendered thier balls to the whitemen on a platter of gold

TAO11:


It is well. Cheers.

Send me your email and let me share some things with you.

gregyboy:



You should be ashamed for quoting a Whiteman on african history....

Thats why your kings surrendered thier balls to the whitemen on a platter of gold

If I had cited you the earliest and most prominent Benin historian, namely: Chief Jacob Egharevba ------ whose writing was to the same effect as the above ---- you will have reverted with the shameful and counterintuitive excuse that he was deliberately lying against his own Benin heritage because he did his first three or so primary school years in Yorubaland.

If I had cited you any prominent Yoruba historian who agrees with what I have earlier found in the writings of these Western researchers, then your excuse would have been more obviously predictable.

And I am left with the most fair and rational alternative of citing you a neutral and authoritative observer who has no stake in the superiority banter of the Yorubas and the Edos.

Yet, that somehow wasn't fair. "Theriously!?"

TAO11:


If I had cited you the earliest and most prominent Benin historian, namely: Chief Jacob Egharevba ------ whose writing was to the same effect as the above ---- you will have reverted with the shameful and counterintuitive excuse that he was deliberately lying against his own Benin heritage because he did his first three or so primary school years in Yorubaland.

If I had cited you any prominent Yoruba historian who agrees with what I have earlier found in the writings of these Western researchers, then your excuse would have been more obviously predictable.

And I am left with the most fair and rational alternative of citing you a neutral and authoritative observer who has no stake in the superiority banter of the Yorubas and the Edos.

Yet, that somehow wasn't fair. "Theriously!?"

If you have are to be nuetural then cite from an african author or our closest neighbours like the igbos or other tribes in Nigeria that would give a true reflection and not from a whiteman

gregyboy:


If you have ro be nuetural then cite it from an african author our closest neighbours like the igbos or itger tribes in Nigeria could give a true reflection and nit a whiteman

What about citing the work of the earliest and world-renowned indigenous Benin historian, Chief J. U. Egharevba, whose account shows that Ekaladerhan was exiled to Ughoton where he then lived and died??

Will that be neutral and fair to you?

I don't seem to know any non-Nigerian African historian of ancient Benin.

Moreover, the so-called "whiteman" visited Benin in as early as the late 1400s, and documented some Benin traditions that has formed the foundation of most of their works which I cite.

TAO11:


What about citing the work of the earliest and world-renowned indigenous Benin historian, Chief J. U. Egharevba, whose account shows that Ekaladerhan was exiled to Ughoton where he then lived and died??

Will that be neutral and fair to you?

I don't seem to know any non-Nigerian African historian of ancient Benin.

Moreover, the so-called "whiteman" visited Benin in as early as the late 1400s, and documented some Benin traditions that has formed the foundation of most of their works which I cite.

One of the meany reasons they will never want to accept Jacob Egharevba, was because he never supported their erroneous claim that Oduduwa or Izoduwa or Ekaladehan whom they also call Oronmiyan came from Bini

Heaven,Sky,cloud etc

TAO11:


What about citing the work of the earliest and world-renowned indigenous Benin historian, Chief J. U. Egharevba, whose account shows that Ekaladerhan was exiled to Ughoton where he then lived and died??

Will that be neutral and fair to you?

I don't seem to know any non-Nigerian African historian of ancient Benin.

Moreover, the so-called "whiteman" visited Benin in as early as the late 1400s, and documented some Benin traditions that has formed the foundation of most of their works which I cite.

Lol, very funny and cunny fellow you're
all written records on the whitemen in Benin were account wriiten on what the whitemen saw and not what they heard ,
You see why you can never be good is because one you will akways find ways to cover the loop holes in yoruba history becauss of so much lies in it ,and the painful thing is you will find way to drag benin into it, the second things is you always quote writeups that suits you and neglect other ones that dont suit you....

Guy if you ever talk about egharvbas writeup again after all benin scholars have pointed out the writeup was false account ,
You will never get a reply from me again

Oviedo well done with the fairytale of Igodomigodo's revisionism. Beside, Bini is a Yoruba word.

Olu317:
Oviedo well done with the fairytale of Igodomigodo's revisionism. Beside, Bini is a Yoruba word.

Bini is a poutuguese word dont mistake it

Edo is a benin word