maynia:


Crusade too is wrong.
There is no cause that has killed people more than Christianity not even Islam.

midnighter:


I don't know what the purpose of this question is.

Ecclesia is the Greek method of organising people. What is the problem there?

I keep asking you and you keep saying the same thing. What exactly do you want me to read?

maynia:


Horus of Egypt.
The Sun God.

Bet you can't live without sun

maynia:



http://www.aggressivechristianity.net/articles/ecclesia.htm

midnighter:


Hahahaha "intellectual", please ride on smh

PS. Please go and read on the concept of "redemption" before making a mockery of yourself in public bahaha

Jesus took away the punishment so that you would be free from death due to sinful nature and not to ginger you to do whatever you want.

Anybody who was truly grateful for such a sacrifice would obey Jesus' commandments out of appreciation and not look for ways to circumvent them.

Im sure you just curse and insult your parents anyhow, after all they wont disown you right? Smh

humblemikel:
Thank you Op.
I'm presently battling with faith lost.
I lost my most Endearing Dad last year ending to Mr. Death.
Even after I have prayed to God for almost a year and believing beyond every reasonable doubt that Dad will be fine, because He too put all his faith in God for his recovery which never happened.
When I lost him, my faith in God shifted .
I can't sing anymore, as I can't go a day without singing praises and worship.
I'm not much of a prayerful person but I love music more than life itself.
Music is what I use to communicate with God daily.
I just say my simple prayer and sing all day
But everything changes since I lost Dad, I lost all the joy and faith in God.
Each time Mum talks about God or church , I find myself sighing hurtfully.
I couldn't even make any plan for my 2020
I just enter the year with the hope that whatever comes my way I will take it.
I can't remember the last time I visited a church since middle of last year.
Daily, the hospital experience with my father and his last moment on earth keeps hunting my thoughts.
I'm becoming more impatient with life that I ended a relationship I was trying to build again last year after I gave up on love 3years ago.
I don't know what will become of me but I just live each day looking forward to each day what it brings my way.
When my father is laid to rest this year,
I will be enrolling for online counseling.
Maybe I can get my old self back and strengthened my faith once again.
SOMETIMES LIFE SUCKS...

Sinistami:


So are you now free from death? Don't you die? WTF? SMH?

maynia:


Have you read about it?
The origin of church and ecclesia?

midnighter:


Yes ooo I am free from eternal death in my Christ Jesus Believe and be saved!

tstx:


But there are so many contradictions in the Bible... Are you saying as good christains.. One needs to turn a blind eye?

Do you even know that the Bible was influenced by other religions? Religions that are way older than Christianity..?

5 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions

So we shouldn't ask questions about that too?

capnies:

There is no single religion older than Christianity. Are you seeing the Bible from the time of Christ or from Adam? The Bible is from Adam and right there in the garden of Eden God told the devil that a woman's seed will bruise his head which is Jesus Christ. I have one question for you where does dreams come from

Sinistami:


If eternal death means Hell then do you know the concept of hell was made up by the Romans to control the growing roman populace at that time. Do you know Jesus Christ shares the same story with several other deities like Buddha, Horus etc which are even more older than the christian religion it self. In fact there's no proof of Christ ever dying. Most and all the experiences that Christians claim comes from God are experienced by people from other religions too. Ask your Muslim brothers.

Sinistami:


Jesu Kristi... Guy you're deluded... He's telling you the bible and Christianity are mere eventions cut out from far older religions and you're here arguing that "Are you seeing the Bible from the time of Christ or from Adam? " Stupidity at it's finest.... So because the bible has Adam and eve it's the oldest right?

GlobalWay:
What's your point exactly?! Many Christians have now woken up to the fact that Satanists and Luciferians are now massively storming the Internet with falsified Information aimed at destroying Faith in the CREATOR of Heaven and Earth. Just like those paid in the time of Jesus to spread false news that he didn't die. They removing potents parts of Bible, re-printing and substituting with fake Bible, deleting real miraclous documents from Internet, substituting with those that attract people to satan, sharing satanic Bible and "How To Summon demons" in USA children elementry schools, forcing Homosexuality down children throarts, etc.
satan knows his time is now very very short, if you still allow him to havest your eternal Soul and deny you your awaiting reward and right to Live forever as planned by our Creator, that is your own problem.

capnies:

Listen to yourself the Bible was cut out from older religion can you please Mr wise tell me the religion that has Genesis account in it?

Viciheaka:
its a choice and I love you for making such decision you keep reminding us that we are on the right path because it was said that men in the world can never accept christ

Sinistami:


Mr Man read on the religion of the mesopatamians, then come back.... Haba.. The internet is there search it don't be scared. Searched Zoroastarianism.. Hope I got the spelling right... It's been long I read on that.

capnies:

I can see you have no answer to this one that means your not Mr wise after all. You are one of those who believe every letter written on the net but totally blinded by the ones telling you the truth. You are afraid of following the Bible because you cannot keep to its clearly written instructions of staying away from sin. You want to live in sin and enjoy Gods benefits sorry

Sinistami:


If eternal death means Hell then do you know the concept of hell was made up by the Romans to control the growing roman populace at that time. Do you know Jesus Christ shares the same story with several other deities like Buddha, Horus etc which are even more older than the christian religion it self. In fact there's no proof of Christ ever dying. Most and all the experiences that Christians claim comes from God are experienced by people from other religions too. Ask your Muslim brothers.

capnies:

I can see you have no answer to this one that means your not Mr wise after all. You are one of those who believe every letter written on the net but totally blinded by the ones telling you the truth. You are afraid of following the Bible because you cannot keep to its clearly written instructions of staying away from sin. You want to live in sin and enjoy Gods benefits sorry

midnighter:


Look my friend, you need to try to be sensible. What you wrote up there is not even making sense.

Pontius Pilate was the governor of Judea for 10 years and had Jesus convicted and sentenced to death for sedition. Some years after that, he was removed from office for improper conduct and sent back to Rome. You can find this information anywhere.

The fact that the concept of a negative afterlife is replicated in faiths all around the world is not a problem.

Eternal death is an existence devoid of the presence of God. As far as the person has understood this, the choice is theirs.

The fact that other religions contain similar themes with the life and times of Jesus is not a problem. He does not exist in a culture-less vacuum. His case must be made to human beings in a way that they can understand.

In fact, that is even more reason to look into and discover the truth of the Cross. If Jesus' story were totally unheard of, you would still complain.


It is actually a very disturbing problem if other older religions have this same christ like character as the bible. It is because it would feel like there's something they're not telling us.

If you dont have any serious refutations to tell me, I'll desist from answering you hereinafter because all of what youre writing is just hollow conjecture that can never bother any Christian on the whole of planet Earth.

Sinistami:
It is actually a very disturbing problem if other older religions have this same christ like character as the bible. It is because it would feel like there's something they're not telling us.

midnighter:


You dont get it. If older religions have the "same Christ-like character" then what remains is to check what the difference is between their own version and that of Christianity.

In thousands of years of religion and myth, is it so impossible that some intelligent humans could come up with a similar idea, being faced with the ubiquitous problem of human sin?

Why is that an issue?

You dont reason very well, thats your problem.

midnighter:


You dont get it. If older religions have the "same Christ-like character" then what remains is to check what the difference is between their own version and that of Christianity.

In thousands of years of religion and myth, is it so impossible that some intelligent humans could come up with a similar idea, being faced with the ubiquitous problem of human sin?

Why is that an issue?

You dont reason very well, thats your problem.

Sinistami:


Fly out... You don't know me so don't judge, I don't believe anything I see flaws in and your bible and other religions are one of them. Your God is not proven to exist, well only in your minds. Even if the Pope, Britain comes down to confess that they used Christianity to brainwash us and loot our resources you lot would still say it's a trick by the devil, I told you that Zoarostarianism is one of the religions copied by Christianity and you're still here arguing nonsense. If your God wanted us not to sin he should have not created sin in the first place. All religions are fake and created by men to control the populace.

Sinistami:
Then that's it na.. Then it's all made up. Thank goodness you know it's older religions... If they (Intelligent Humans) could come up with the same concept before Christianity then it's all made up. That's the point. It's actually a show of ignorance if you just ignore it that a major key factor in your religion that you revere so much and have given all your time to is found in older religions that you describe as devilish and barbaric. It is you that doesn't reason well. It shows it's all fake, copy and paste.

capnies:

Science and history is almost destroying you; yes the FOOL says in his heart there is no God but I bet you Mr science and history with little Brain you cannot prove that God does not exist. That is my single challenge to you. You want to eat your cake and have it sorry

midnighter:


The point is not the concept. The point is the legitimacy of Jesus' claims.

The idea of Messiah is not a new one.

So many Messiahs are still proclaiming themselves even today, yet they are all TOTALLY WRONG and Jesus is right. The Jews and Muslims are still waiting for their Messiah, not knowing that He is already come.

Nigeria operates a similar style of governance with that of America, does it mean that our own is totally illegitimate just because its not novel?

Is it not the actions of politicians that determine whether or not the system is workable and not the framework itself?

Sinistami:



News flash... Other religions think your own messiah is wrong too. Shey you know? You would have been spinning a different tale if you were Muslim or Indian.

midnighter:


The point is not the concept. The point is the legitimacy of Jesus' claims.

The idea of Messiah is not a new one.

So many Messiahs are still proclaiming themselves even today, yet they are all TOTALLY WRONG and Jesus is right. The Jews and Muslims are still waiting for their Messiah, not knowing that He is already come.

Nigeria operates a similar style of governance with that of America, does it mean that our own is totally illegitimate just because its not novel?

Is it not the actions of politicians that determine whether or not the system is workable and not the framework itself?

midnighter:


You see? I told you that you dont have anything useful or sensible to say. You finally succeeded in rubbishing yourself.

Good morning dear