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Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Authoreety: 7:29pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
sheyoroniyen:Donkey! 1 Like
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Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 7:30pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real: I am still laughing. You showed me an abstract o. Lol Conclusions: High‐intensity phototherapy significantly reduces TSB in nonhaemolytic severe hyperbilirubinaemia and decreases the need for exchange transfusion At the end of the day it's non hemolytic severe hyperbilirubinemia. Drawbacks It didn't talk about hemolytic anemia The children were term and very near term They were normal birth weight babies No kernicterus or BIND It didn't say whether the jaundice was 1st day or not. No rise rate No sepsis Straight forward neonatal jaundice that didn't need EBT. |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by sheyoroniyen(m): 7:31pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
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Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 7:37pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real: Still laughing so 8 children still needed EBT in the group that got immunoglobulin and on phototherapy while 22 babies got EBT in the group that got only phototherapy. Last last EBT is the procedure when everything else has failed. At the end of the day if baby meets the criteria for absolute EBT the baby has to get it. Key word here: absolute indications for EBT |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by babajay109(m): 7:37pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Romanoff:Yeah, but i will not suppport your mention ``insanity in the name of religious belief''. You are wrong concerning what actually happened in the ABC drama series grey's anatomy s9 e13. the boy later died as a result of `no blood transfusion' , dr yang and dr murphy are the patients doctor. |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hefy4real(m): 7:40pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel: If only you knew what is called data privacy law for patients Anyways, For your level that’s what you need for now. As we progress i might give you real lives scenarios. You have to proove you are worthy of it. Check my last post please, what have you deduced 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
JEHOVAH WITNESS ARE Hypothetical Hypocrite |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hefy4real(m): 7:49pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel: Says who? 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by ucham: 7:54pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
atoleybaba: Typical I asked you a direct question and here you are deflecting it, trying to question my motive. It's a pity. I even told you to go research and get back to me. Still you are directing me to your website. It's a shame. You keep trying to mislead people that I'm asking about drugs. Bro, I asked you about Blood Fractions which your organization permits. It's obvious you don't know what it is your organization policy is or you are dishonestly feigning ignorance. My question stands : if the sciptural ground for not accepting blood transfusion ; whole blood or major components is Acts 15:29, then what is the scriptural ground for accepting blood fractions derived from stored blood? The whole Nairaland is watching this conversation. I have kept my words civil and clean. Any sincere jw should critically think about this question and provide an answer. Please remember to back your response up with scripture. After all you base your beliefs on scripture as you have claimed. You claim the answer will be too long, that's not only ridiculous but an insult to people's intelligence. Jw's quoted scriptures to support their claim that the Bible condemns transfusion. Now I'm asking that you do the same honorable thing to show everyone by quoting a scripture that supports accepting blood fractions gotten from stored blood. We are waiting for your response... 2 Likes |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Skywalker909(m): 7:59pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
donbachi:lol |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hefy4real(m): 7:59pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel: A quack who cannot fully comprehend a simple abstract and its conclusion spotted. Lemme alao see how you’ll explain the next one o Intravenous immunoglobulin G (IVIG) therapy for significant hyperbilirubinemia in ABO hemolytic disease of the newborn. Randomized controlled trial Miqdad AM, et al. J Matern Fetal Neonatal Med. 2004. Show full citation Abstract BACKGROUND: Although intravenous immunoglobulin G (IVIG) therapy has been reported in hyperbilirubinemia of Rh hemolytic disease, its use in ABO hemolytic disease has been reported in only a few studies. In our institute we have observed that almost 30% of babies with hyperbilirubinemia due to ABO hemolytic disease required exchange transfusion. OBJECTIVE: To determine whether administration of IVIG to newborns with significant hyperbilirubinemia due to ABO hemolytic disease would reduce the need for exchange transfusion as a primary goal in these babies. DESIGN: This was a prospective study involving all newborns with significant hyperbilirubinemia due to direct Coombs-positive ABO hemolytic disease. METHODS: All healthy term babies with ABO hemolytic disease with positive direct Coombs test in the period between 2000 and 2002 were identified. Significant hyperbilirubinemia was defined as hyperbilirubinemia requiring phototherapy and/or rising by 8.5 micromol/l per h (0.5 mg/dl per h) or more to require exchange transfusion. Babies were randomly assigned into two groups: group 1 (study group) received phototherapy plus IVIG (500 mg/kg); and group 2 (control group) received phototherapy alone. Exchange transfusion was carried out in any group if at any time the bilirubin level reached 340 micromol/l (20 mg/dl) or more, or rose by 8.5 micromol/l per h (0.5 mg/dl per h) in group 2. RESULTS: A total of 112 babies were enrolled over 2 years, 56 in each group. Exchange transfusion was carried out in four babies in the study group, while 16 babies in the control group required exchange. Late anemia was not of concern in either group. No adverse effects related to IVIG administration were recorded. CONCLUSION: Administration of IVIG to newborns with significant hyperbilirubinemia due to ABO hemolytic disease with positive direct Coomb's test reduces the need for exchange transfusion without producing immediate adverse effects. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/15590442/ 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by ucham: 8:06pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Addenn: My brother, incase you didn't comprehend my question which is evident from your reply, my question is what is the Scriptural ground for allowing members to accept Blood fractions? You do know that blood fractions is gotten from stored blood and other components ba? Even the name tells you that "Blood - Fractions". Even if the fraction is 0.0001% the fact remains that it is that fraction of blood that makes it what it is. So what scriptural backing do you have for this? I beg that you think long and hard about this question and get back to me with a scripture if you can find any showing your answer. The world is watching. As for going to your website, I've gone and not one scripture was quoted to answer the question. If there's a scriptural answer to my question that you have gotten from your website please share it here I want to read. 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by babajay109(m): 8:19pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
PVision2020:Life of every child matter alot, yes... but can this be said in the USA, surely not because that hospital violated religious right of the parent. someone will say that is america and here is nigeria we are different. 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 8:28pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real:Last last they are all term babies. You are calling me quack but you failed to see that all the babies were healthy and were term. Let me keep laughing. Somebody say I am a quack. Study conducted on healthy babies with jaundice 2 babies amongst the babies who had immunoglobulin and phototherapy had EBT while 16 babies who had just phototherapy had EBT. This procedure whether you like it or not is very important in the neonatal world. I did not see the ones for preterm and low birthweight, very low birthweight, extremely low birthweight and also sick new borns |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Mayzie(m): 8:33pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
But JW don change that part of their belief naw... |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 8:36pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real:So last last Some babies in both groups still had Exchange blood transfusion lol Some had EBT in the rh incompatibility group while some had EBT in the ABO incompatibility group Somebody called me a quack cos I pointed out that some healthy babies who had hemolytic neonatal jaundice still had EBT. Lol |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 8:39pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real: All these are ways to justify your killer beliefs. Baby killer |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Barristter07: 8:51pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real: You know the funniest thing about this whole brouhaha is that 80% of those speaking against the Witnesses actually believed that when someone dies they go to heaven, Isn't it ironic that if a person dies as a baby or kid . Their heaven is automatic according to their belief , Yet they don't want to reject transfusion and allow the baby go to heaven and be saved, Rather for the baby to grow and become a Potential Hellfire Candidate ? 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Originalsly: 8:59pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel: The place of the doctor is to inform the parents of the options. It is for the parents to choose the options. If exchange blood transfusion is the last option and the parents opt out of that one... then they should use the others and not apply that one by force. If a child is in an accident and is placed on life support.... is it the doctor / hospital that makes the decision to cut life support? If the parent decides to pull the plug.... should the doctors prevent them from doing so? .... prevent the parent from killing their child? 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by sniperr007(m): 9:16pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
donbachi:JW has passed a law that approves blood transfusion. The parents don't know anything. Sad, the child will grow to know his parents wanted him dead in name of religious belief |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Mrpojj(m): 9:45pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
PVision2020: Good one from govt |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by McFAI(m): 9:58pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Nobody: 9:59pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
headTO:must everything be in the scriptures? If there was no scriptures, what did we have done. Religion had tear us apart. So many years ago, JW members do celebrate Christmas and New year, but some century, they changed. |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by xaggar(m): 10:41pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel: Who knows you with your level of literacy? Deluded! 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by sagieramos(m): 10:53pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Jewessgratitude: At least there is a reason behind everything. Why don't you fill in a form on jw.org to invite a JW's member to your location for free, you can then ask them their reasons of not participating of all you've listed. But as for the bolded, it isn't true. We have many songs that honour Jehovah and Jesus 1 Like |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 11:22pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Originalsly: Na una sabi. What I know is a child which includes newborns have a right to life. |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 11:22pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
xaggar: Baby killer |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 11:25pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Barristter07: That’s why you believe a baby should die instead of accepting blood transfusion? Baby killer spotted |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Ashleeyy: 11:28pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
I don't think they believe in Jesus though donbachi: |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 11:29pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real: Says your study abstract. Dunce did not even read the part where babies had EBT. Lol You ain’t a neonatologist. You are just another baby killer |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Hairyrapunzel: 11:42pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
Hefy4real: You see the word reduces? It doesn't obviate the need for EBT. I still dey wait for the sick babies own and LBW, VLBW and ELBW with neonatal jaundice. |
Re: Blood Transfusion: LASG Rescues Baby From Jehovah Witness Parents by Edunamjr(m): 11:51pm On Jan 07, 2020 |
God will help us. |
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