babasolution:


I think the hausas are comfortable with the situation,the fulani control the politics while they control business,most of the hausas in my view share the same ideology with the fulani,i think if they didnt they would have since overthrown the fulani.

saaron:
Your calling of shia as 'shiat' has exposed you. You're just another fulani sunni follower. And we're well aware that sunnis and shia as sworn enemies.

AmaHopeOn:
Hausa lead in Business, which business exactly!

I read a post on the Datatas, and I noticed an intentional disturtion of facts. That the danatatas are Hausa's. No, they are not. They are Fulani's.

The Fulani's don't just rule, they control businesses too. Name any thriving business up north, it is owned by Fulani.

Dangote is not hausa, he is Fulani.


The conquest of the Hausa's is not just in their lands, but in the mind too. The average Hausa is dumb, dumb in the sense of not having a mind of their own.

I also know the OP, knows more than he claims and uses a different moniker to fuel this discuss.

There are few Hausa's that are getting liberated, but this few are extremely bitter, but their religion wouldn't let them fight back.

Time, time. The Hausa's will eventually get sense. Give it time, time settles all scores

AmaHopeOn:
Hausa lead in Business, which business exactly!

I read a post on the Datatas, and I noticed an intentional disturtion of facts. That the danatatas are Hausa's. No, they are not. They are Fulani's.

The Fulani's don't just rule, they control businesses too. Name any thriving business up north, it is owned by Fulani.

Dangote is not hausa, he is Fulani.


The conquest of the Hausa's is not just in their lands, but in the mind too. The average Hausa is dumb, dumb in the sense of not having a mind of their own.

I also know the OP, knows more than he claims and uses a different moniker to fuel this discuss.

There are few Hausa's that are getting liberated, but this few are extremely bitter, but their religion wouldn't let them fight back.

Time, time. The Hausa's will eventually get sense. Give it time, time settles all scores

shariff84:
it will never happen because its not even part of our dream,we never complaint even for onces.

churchee:
Let us make a little analysis:
NORTHEAST
Adamawa, Taraba, Gombe, Jigawa and Borno; you see these states, they all speak Hausa as means of communication except Adamawa where Fulatanci[i][/i] is the major means of communication. Yet, none of the people from these states are majorly Hausas, they all have their indigenous tribes.
NORTH CENTRAL
Nasarawa, Abuja, Kogi, Benue, Plateau; this set all use Hausa as major means of communication and trade but they all have their indigenous languages other than Hausa.
NORTHWEST
Kano, Kaduna, Sokoto, Kebbi; All speak Hausa and other minor tribes as means of communication but only Kano and Sokoto have Hausa as native speakers.
What does this mean? Hausa speaking is majorly for communication and that communication is hinged on trade and not because there is anything attractive from them (unlike it is in migrating to Europe, no offense intended). Hausas have never had any intent on power, they are just easy going, easy-to-be-manipulated set of people, they mind their trade and have no eye for luxury, they do not live for tomorrow, the moment is enough. They were basically pagans and irreligious, then the Fulani took advantage of them, conquered them, then used them as bait to infiltrate the South. I have come across a lot of them, from Taraba to Adamawa, to Maiduguri (when it was still trade hub of NE), Nasarawa to Abuja, Jigawa and Gombe just once and twice respectively.

I miss the North mehn.

saxha:
Well, I served in the North, and during that time, I observed, and I was forced to ask questions.
I observed that during the school exam on subject: Hausa, even though all of them can speak Hausa language perfectly, they were still cheating during the exam.
I know this is also common in the South, but my curiosity and my intention of just trying to curb them from cheating, made me to ask: Are you not an Hausa? Why do you still cheat? Majority of them replied in chorus; "we're not Hausas!"
Then, I probed further, who are you then? They now started saying, I'm Berom; I'm from Jos; I'm from Kaduna town and we have our language, I'm from nasarawa, we have our native language which is different from Hausa's... Blah blah".
Then I later asked a Corper mate from Taraba, who can speak Hausa fluently, even though their native language is Jukun, if all/majority of you are claiming not to be Hausas, but can speak the language, who are then the real Hausas? His reply was that he doesn't know either.

So my deductions all round is that, Hausa language might be a native language of the early elites/highly civilized from that part of the country, it may necessarily not be from northern Nigeria itself, as it's true that other tribes in other western Africa can speak the language fluently as well.
Just like "Oyo Yoruba" which is the standard for all Yoruba, while there is other Yoruba dialects that average Oyo man cannot understand without learning. So is a certain English language, a standard to all Brits, even though, their native languages are different. Then, I believe Hausa is just a common accent/ acenstor language to those people in that area, while it might be the native language to a minority tribe in that area.

Fun fact: I was told that in Kaduna alone, they have about 50 different tribes, aside the "Hausa's" and I confirmed that people from kafanchan in the same Kaduna state, can speak their language, in which a typical "Hausa man" will not understand.
So it's not really Fulani dominating, it's just people who're claiming to be Fulani that're dominating. If you check most of the northern states have majority of different tribes that are not even Fulani or Hausa.

9jii:

Hausa people are more into business from pre-colonial era to date. That's why Kano is the trade centre in the North.
Fulani are more into politics and education. That's why Sokoto was the centre for religious and political affairs before the colonisation.
Presently Almost all the well known businessmen from the north are of Hausa decent while all the big name in Nigeria politics and government are if fulani origin.

Today It ll be a very difficult to find a Hausa or fulani families that didn't inter married. Except those fulani herdsmen in the Bush.

jayfolarin:


Incredible! How did this even happen? What subjugation tools were employed by the fulanis? Do you have any resources I can read up on? This is a topic that interests me greatly.

Thanks

YungMillionaire:
The same thing is happening to the Yorubas in Ilorin. I was shocked when I learnt that the current governor of Kwara state is Yoruba. I mean look at his names. Not a single Yoruba word in his names. i give Ilorin 5 more decades before it is 100% Fulanized.

AmaHopeOn:
Hausa lead in Business, which business exactly!

I read a post on the Datatas, and I noticed an intentional disturtion of facts. That the danatatas are Hausa's. No, they are not. They are Fulani's.

The Fulani's don't just rule, they control businesses too. Name any thriving business up north, it is owned by Fulani.

Dangote is not hausa, he is Fulani.


The conquest of the Hausa's is not just in their lands, but in the mind too. The average Hausa is dumb, dumb in the sense of not having a mind of their own.

I also know the OP, knows more than he claims and uses a different moniker to fuel this discuss.

There are few Hausa's that are getting liberated, but this few are extremely bitter, but their religion wouldn't let them fight back.

Time, time. The Hausa's will eventually get sense. Give it time, time settles all scores

FrLukas:


Isn't my point obvious?

When someone you see as a friend only sees you as a means to an end what do you do?

You are being colonized by the Fulanis, that much is clear.

Fulanis are more indigenous to Niger and Chad yet because of religion you sold your birthright to them.

You've subjugated your beautiful culture for their sake.

You now accompany them to raid villages to kill and maim. At least that was what happened in some parts of Mikang LGA in Plateau state when I was there.

shariff84:
We hausas,we see ourselves with Fulani as the same,we mostly don't care about what Fulani has become in Hausa.In a nutshell,we see ourselves as brothers just as the way Yoruba Muslims and Christians are.let me tell you one thing that you don't know,in the north we value religion more than anything. Onces you are muslem then we see yourself the same.in the north we have a lot of tribe not only Hausa Fulani almost about 100 tribe but we mostly spoke Hausa as our general language.Also, among this 100tribe onces you are muslem then we see ourselves one!

Edcure1:
It baffles me how a very large ethnic group as the Hausas will continue without any form of resistance under subjugation by a Fulani minority. Religion is indeed the opium of the masses.

This is one of the most interesting thread that I have seen in nairaland in recent years.

Dedetwo:


In your post, you have touched two issues of mention. The Hausa are conquered ethnic group. When people are ruled by a stranger, in this case an Emir, it is indeed the subjects of Emir are conquered. As for the phrase, Hausa/Fulani, it marked the start of foolery in Nigerian society triggered by Nigeria/Biafra war. Fulani is extremely small in population. However the members of the ethnicity found themselves in the corridor of power due to the shift in balance of rule by Nigeria/Biafra war. In order to make Fulani significantly visible, it became apparently paradoxical to align Fulani with the docile larger ethnic group hence the nonsensical Fulani/Hausa phrase.

jayfolarin:


This is exactly what I would like to know. Are they truly in bed with the fulani? Or have they been completely oppressed into silence with violence or threat of? Is this a religion brainwashing thing? Or is this all mutual between both parties?

I have a feeling, following the pattern of violence with which the fulani incurses into other regions that fulani's power in the north isn't exactly mutual.

Blackking98:

Yes, they are a conquered people who have developed Stockholm syndrome with their conquerors. It's quite sad. No single Emir in the north is Hausa, all are fulanis .

FrLukas:


Isn't my point obvious?

When someone you see as a friend only sees you as a means to an end what do you do?

You are being colonized by the Fulanis, that much is clear.

Fulanis are more indigenous to Niger and Chad yet because of religion you sold your birthright to them.

You've subjugated your beautiful culture for their sake.

You now accompany them to raid villages to kill and maim. At least that was what happened in some parts of Mikang LGA in Plateau state when I was there.

Freddykrueger:
Hausas are cowards, that's why it didn't take much for the fulanis to conquer them and establish emirates/caliphates all over hausa land.

Osaze007:
What are the indigenous Hausa names

shariff84:
We hausas,we see ourselves with Fulani as the same,we mostly don't care about what Fulani has become in Hausa.In a nutshell,we see ourselves as brothers just as the way Yoruba Muslims and Christians are.let me tell you one thing that you don't know,in the north we value religion more than anything. Onces you are muslem then we see yourself the same.in the north we have a lot of tribe not only Hausa Fulani almost about 100 tribe but we mostly spoke Hausa as our general language.Also, among this 100tribe onces you are muslem then we see ourselves one!

brightokechukwu:
The Hausas are too docile, even during the pogrom of '66 against the Easterners, the wildly held misconception by many Igbos was that the perpetrators of the killings were Hausas...although true to come extent as some Hausas did participate in the massacres, the truth is that majority of the officers, men and civilians that did the killing were the Fulani and their Middle belt collaborators. The most violent prone set of people in the North are mostly Fulani's and not even Hausas.

Thats why I respect the Kanuri people, pure war-like people who didn't take sh*t from the Fulani invaders, when Fulani invaders tried to conquer their land, Kanuri warriors butchered them like goats and sent them packing from their territory. Hausas on the other hand, are just a lost cause, it's even more interesting to know that no Hausa person has been in power since the history of Nigeria, na mostly Fulani and Northern minorities.

YungMillionaire:
The same thing is happening to the Yorubas in Ilorin. I was shocked when I learnt that the current governor of Kwara state is Yoruba. I mean look at his names. Not a single Yoruba word in his names. i give Ilorin 5 more decades before it is 100% Fulanized.

myobjective:


The irony is that Hausa is the largest ethnic group in Niger yet they haven't produced a president since she gains her independent from France. Fulani is a minority ethnic group in both Chad and Niger they have close to zero political clouts in these countries.

Fulani uses to dominate Cameron before the southern group decided to render them useless. Fulanis are hated minorities in Mali, Senegal, Burkina Faso Ghana, Cotedvoire and other west Africa countries. They don't have any political powers in all the aforementioned countries.

The only country with Fulani majority is Ginnea, they used to dominate Guinea until all the ethnic groups there ganged up to result power away from them. Fulanis are only relevant in Nigeria thanks to the disunity of the south and middle belt and also due to the British factor.

From a linguistic point of view, Fulanis speak a Niger-congo language which is similar to both Yoruba, Igbo and other southern groups than the Hausa language which is Afro-Asiatic language

oyatz:
You don't know what you are saying sir.

The Fulanis in Ilorin have been Yorubanized.

Mention just 5 highly successful Fulanis from Ilorin without Yoruba names and blood.

Name 3 widely practice Fulani cultural practices in Ilorin.

Bearing ISLAMIC Names is not the same as bearing FULANI names.

FULANIS don't own Islam.


On the contrary, in 50 years time, it will be very difficult to find traces of FULANI in Ilorin due to cultural assimilation into the larger Yoruba population.

adamx23:

Dude, Dangote is a Hausa man. Stop spreading your ignorance like an airborne disease.