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Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Peacefullove: 4:45pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Emusan: Human existence doesn't mean his life started in Mary's womb . Hence the clause " human" added to existence . Let me remind you that you added that the Divine nature was HIDDEN in that human nature that Mary GAVE BIRTH TO. So what passed through Mary's vagina ? God in human flesh ? Tell me what passed through Mary's vagina, and we shall clearly see if she gave birth to God or not. |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Peacefullove: 4:49pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Emusan: House ? recall this post , So what passed through Mary's Vagina was a Divine person/God covered with flesh ? |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Emusan(m): 5:15pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Peacefullove: So if His Human existence doesn't mean His life started in Mary's womb, what happened to his DIVINE PERSON after Mary given birth to His HUMAN PERSON.... I've noticed that, you're using your JWs theory i.e Human doesn't have spirit person residing inside them to disprove this thread whereas, the Catholic who made the claim have believe in the theory of Human has spirit being residing in their flesh. Can you see where the problem lies? Hence the clause " human" added to existence. What happened to the divine person after HUMAN WAS ADDED Let me remind you that you added that the Divine nature was HIDDEN in that human nature that Mary GAVE BIRTH TO. Now, does this mean I said divine nature was part of what Mary carried in her womb? So what passed through Mary's vagina ? God in human flesh? Mary birth the human nature NOT THE DIVINE PERSON, how many times will I repeat this to your empty skull? Tell me what passed through Mary's vagina, and we shall clearly see if she gave birth to God or not. The human nature passed.... You can see the reason why it's not good to jump into what you are confused about or don't have the indepth knowledge of. I made a statement from my first post, which you jump in like a kangaroo without first understanding my point. |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:01pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: Important Concerns The initial concern that is associated with calling Mary the "mother of God" is the implication of superiority, and also a special position that she would then possess. Please consider the following problems associated with the exultation of Mary. 1. Mary sits at the right hand of Christ: "...she is the supreme Minister of the distribution of graces. Jesus "sitteth on the right hand of the majesty on high" (Hebrews i. b.). Mary sitteth at the right hand of her Son..." (Pope Pius X, 1835-1914, Ad Diem Illum Laetissimum, 14). |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Peacefullove: 6:58pm On Feb 05, 2020 |
Emusan: So God wasn't manifested in the Flesh in Mary's womb again ?
At bold, What was manifested in that human nature Mary birth ? God ? " The FLESH is the house for the divine person to be seen " - Emusan You have enter one chance . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by LordReed2nd(m): 3:30am On Feb 06, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: You failed to show it is a fallacy of equivocation and instead switched some mythological concerns. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by PastorAIO: 9:34am On Feb 06, 2020 |
Janosky: Who was talking to you? I'm in no mood for talking to mad men. |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Janosky: 8:17pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
PastorAIO: What do you think you are you doing by posting your comments in a thread of "mad men" you are "in no mood for talking to" ? "Mad men" dey yarn you come into their midst & say your thoughts,yet you're not "mad" . Pastor be honest to yourself jare... |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by PastorAIO: 9:16pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
As I was saying to the saner folks who are reading and laughing, se you see my predicament. Abeg no post anything here o, just read, laugh and move on. Or one craze man will try to drag you enter their idiocy. |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Janosky: 9:25pm On Feb 07, 2020 |
PastorAIO: For your mind...... There are no sane folks here.. Pastor,please upgrade your memory... PastorAIO: |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:18pm On Feb 08, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: 2. Mary is 2nd only to Jesus: "Mary has by grace been exalted above all angels and men to a place second only to her Son" (Vatican Council II, p. 421). "This mother...is waiting and preparing your home for you," (Handbook for Todays Catholic, p. 31). |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:23pm On Feb 09, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: 3. Mary is the all holy one: "By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the 'Mother of Mercy,' the All-Holy One," (CCC 2677). |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:25pm On Feb 13, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: 4. Pray to Mary: "Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father," (CCC 2679). https://carm.org/mary-mother-of-god-logical-fallacy |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:12pm On Feb 16, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: 5. Marian prayer is epitome of the gospel: "The liturgical feasts dedicated to the Mother of God and Marian prayer, such as the rosary, are an epitome of the whole Gospel," (par. 971). |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:14am On Feb 17, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: 6. No Better way than to look to Mary: "After speaking of the Church, her origin, mission, and destiny, we can find no better way to conclude than by looking to Mary," (CCC 972). |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:08am On Feb 19, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: 7. Mary brings us the gifts of Eternal Life: Mary, "...by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation...(CCC par. 969) |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:46pm On Feb 19, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU: Obviously, there are serious problems with the exultation of Mary by Roman Catholicism. Nevertheless, to the Roman Catholics credit, they do not assert that Mary is older than God or the source of his divinity. "Although Mary is the Mother of God, she is not his mother in the sense that she is older than God or the source of her Son’s divinity, for she is neither. Rather, we say that she is the Mother of God in the sense that she carried in her womb a divine person—Jesus Christ, God "in the flesh" (2 John 7, cf. John 1:14)—and in the sense that she contributed the genetic matter to the human form God took in Jesus Christ."fn]http://www.catholic.com/tracts/mary-mother-of-god Still, the problem of the exultation of Mary cannot be ignored, as the documented list of exultation regarding Mary clearly reveals. For an article on this serious problem see The Exultation of Mary. https://carm.org/catholic/exaltation-of-mary |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:18pm On May 21, 2020 |
OLAADEGBU:
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Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by imagrg(m): 6:36pm On May 21, 2020 |
The world itself is a mystery. I am yet to know why people refer to Jesus as God when he stated clearly in the Bible that he is not. Well, I am just wondering though. Remember, Martin Luther made the Bible even accessible to the ordinary man today! Beware of the Catholic philosophy! It is the problem we wrestle with in Christian belief today. God is God. He is One and He does not share His personality with anyone. |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:44pm On May 21, 2020 |
imagrg: Do you know this God? |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by JoradOz(m): 10:45pm On May 22, 2020 |
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Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by cornelboy(f): 9:14pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
AryEmber:Na the second one be this image123. She's not a Christian though. |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by cornelboy(f): 9:15pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
tartar9:Image123 another one 3! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Ken4Christ: 10:17pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
Dnaz: He wasn't God on earth. This was why he had to be anointed for ministry. If he was God on earth, he will not need the anointing of the Holy Spirit. In addition, he will not eat or sleep. God doesn't sleep. He became man for our sake to redeem us. Concerning the issue of Mary being referred to as the mother of God, there is no where in the scripture where Jesus called Mary mother. He addressed her as woman. She was only a vessel that carried the baby Jesus. God could have used any other vessel in that lineage. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:12am On Apr 03, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: God bless you real good my brother. 1 Like |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Ken4Christ: 2:43pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: Thank you |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Janosky: 5:26pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:Is Jesus Christ God on earth or just the son of himself? Does God have a Father in heaven? Matthew 27:46,is God crying to himself ? Ken4Christ:Which scriptures did you read that GIBBERISH of Jesus Christ not eating or sleeping at all? Ken4Christ:Jesus Christ is your God in heaven. You said "He wasn't God on earth". You mean your God in heaven never came to the earth? Your Trinity mentors said " Jesus is fully God and fully man." Do you agree with their claim? Their claim of Mary as the mother of God is borne out of Trinity GIBBERISH. |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Ken4Christ: 10:23pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
Janosky: It takes a spiritual man to understand spiritual truth. If you are not born again and filled with the Holy Spirit, there is nothing I am going to explain that will make sense to you. In summary, there is one God who is invisible and he dwells bodily in Christ. Jesus is the visible manifestation of the invisible God. If you want to see God, look at Jesus. He reproduced himself in Christ and yet Jesus still call him God. They don't walk independently. Their thoughts and minds are networked together. The most important thing that matters is your salvation. Are you born again? Are you filled with the Holy Spirit? |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:42pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
Janosky: The depiction below simply nails it. 1 Share
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Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Janosky: 11:00pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
OLAADEGBU: For your mind... Psalms 90:2 dey your own Bible? Acts 2:33-36, did God resurrect himself? Or you mean God resurrect another GOD? Did God give himself this command: "Sit at my right hand?" |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Janosky: 11:27pm On Apr 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:Matthew 27:46, what is the spiritual truth Jesus is teaching you ? Does Matthew 27:46 the statement of Jesus Christ "God on earth crying to himself in heaven" make sense to you? Ken4Christ:Therefore, according to your claim,"If you want to see God on earth, look at Jesus". Mary gave birth to God on earth. simple logic. . Ken4Christ:Your Trinity says God na 3 persons. Oga, God reproduced another person. Why are you LYING that "God reproduced himself"? Ken4 ,wetin happen to your Spiritual man brain? Ken4Christ:Yes, my salvation matters when you are in complete agreement with John 20:17,31 "believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and you will have life" NOT Trinity GIBBERISH. If your salvation matters to you better hold on to Revelation 3 12. In the spiritual realm Jesus said himself is NOT our God . |
Re: There Is A Logical Fallacy In The Argument That Mary Is The Mother Of God by Ken4Christ: 8:34am On Apr 05, 2022 |
Janosky: " And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God." (John 20:28). And our Lord Jesus didn't say, don't call me God. What is your response to this? |
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