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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Nobody: 10:47am On Feb 16, 2020
ibinaboonline:
Which mistakes are you talking about? Is it a mistake that you have freewill? Would you rather you were no more than a glorified robot? Nonetheless, satan must have thought Jesus made a biiiig mistake coming to the world but at the end satan ended up regretting killing Jesus because it was all an elaborate plan to rescue man. I'm saying, even now, its not over. God is still working out a plan, the world is still on course. Anyone who is wise will join God's family because He always wins and every eye will see that what they were foolish to assume God was not in control or had made a mistake.
Who is talking about no freewill. He created us and temptations, if there were no temptation would there be sin. There may be a God but all he did was to create the world kpam that is all. There is nothing like a daddy in the sky who loves you face the facts.
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Ikem11(m): 10:49am On Feb 16, 2020
One gift God gave man is free will to choice whatever they want... Someone will ask if God know all we do even before we do them doesn't that mean our free will means nothing

Let me explain what God regrets in man.

God already watched how our life started and ended ( he only watched it but didn't interfere in it') heknows any step we will take cos he already watched the future and knows that's the step we took.

God regretted Saul as a king cos he already saw the future which isrealities as humans couldn't see.

God doesn't regret his actions but actions that resulted due to man's deviation from his plans as God

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by optimus106(m): 10:49am On Feb 16, 2020
holyDaniel:
Saw allowed himself to be possessed by evil spirit.


Are you a carpenter?

Which one be saw?

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 10:50am On Feb 16, 2020
Openbusiness:


Amos 7:3
The LORD changed His mind about this. "It shall not be," said the LORD.

Jeremiah 26:13
"Now therefore amend your ways and your deeds and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will change His mind[/b] about the misfortune which He has pronounced against you.

Jonah 3:10
When God saw their deeds, that they turned from their wicked way, [b]then God relented concerning the calamity which He had declared
He would bring upon them. And He did not do it.

Here's the thing in Jeremiah though that's what he thought and said, God still brought calamity upon them because God said he would

in Jonah, yes God relented but that God hadn't yet pronounced a word against them and honestly God did that later and in another prophetic book, years later
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by fyneboi79(m): 10:50am On Feb 16, 2020
benji93:
There's a dent in your statement. What is logical? According to whom? By ascribing to logic, we can be sure you do have a belief system. And who says spirituality from the perspective of Christianity has to be logical? Some of you guys run around thinking you are being smart by subscribing to logic, but that's quite dum and for others that solely depend on religion for existence, that's foolish as well.
If you were told as a kid about the Babel tower,you probably would still be thinking the heavens are imediately above the clouds. But today science has gone beyond the earth into space, mars,moon still no heavens gate?

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Bacteriologist(m): 10:53am On Feb 16, 2020
UdemeJoshua:
We, Religious Idiots, can't question God

Fixed.

Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 10:55am On Feb 16, 2020
tejpot:
Yes the Lord repented not as humans will. 'Repented' in this case simply means in a sorry state or in a state of grieve.

This same statement was also made in Genesis 6:6 when God was in a state of grieve for making man.

In any case God's plan is always accomplished, though he was disappointed but never surprised because there is eternal plan for whatever man's action brings.
Exactly
Damiriel:
Just as he repented after creating man...
Did you read the above
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by DerickCO(m): 10:58am On Feb 16, 2020
Widall:
I also need an explanation of this. Cos he is a perfect God, why should He now repent?
He felt sorry for what he had done
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 10:58am On Feb 16, 2020
Mikehot:
Regretted is the meaning

And if you check further than that verse you would understand it was justified.

Btw, it was the children of Israel that lamented they needed a king to be like other nations too.

God already had his plan for them but since they couldn't wait he sent Samuel to annoint their choice for them so it wasn't his own choice he regretted on.


God gave man the freewill to make choice, think and make decisions and if he wanted to be overiding the choice of man because he has all powers then he would have made us like animals instead.

God having power over past and present doesn't mean man's freewill and choices doesn't shape what the future becomes just like Adam and Eve did, just like Abraham did with haggi etc

Haven't you read in Scripture that God knows the end from the beginning.

free will is an illusion

well but it's either God's will or men's will (illusion by devils n demons that we are free to go outside God)

God that knows the number of hair on a person's head haba

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Openbusiness: 10:58am On Feb 16, 2020
BlueAngel444:


Here's the thing in Jeremiah though that's what he thought and said, God still brought calamity upon them because God said he would

in Jonah, yes God relented but that God hadn't yet pronounced a word against them and honestly God did that later and in another prophetic book, years later

God doesn't change his PERSONALITY. He is who he is for all eternity, like it is written He is the same yesterday, today and forever. But God did and does change his mind about whatever he feels like changing his mind over. Earliest case of this was like when God said it is not good for man to be alone. So you can see God obviously changed his mind there. Because initially he created only Adam. He could have made them both from the beginning, but initially Adam alone was his intention. Then he changed his mind and made Eve too.

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by orisa37: 10:59am On Feb 16, 2020
PRACTICAL !!!

THE LORD IS REGRETTING NOW THAT HE HAS ALLOWED BUHARI, LIKE PHARAOH IN EGYPT, TO STAY TOO LONG IN OFFICE AS PRESIDENT OF NIGERIA !!!
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Uyi168: 10:59am On Feb 16, 2020
Openbusiness:


Why would God regret anything? That is logically and illogically impossible
..
What's the premise of the op again
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 11:02am On Feb 16, 2020
Sunnycliff:
God is mysterious

1 Chronicles 21:15 And God sent an angel unto Jerusalem to destroy it: and as he was destroying, the LORD beheld, and he repented him of the evil, and said to the angel that destroyed, It is enough, stay now thine hand. And the angel of the LORD stood by the threshingfloor of Ornan the Jebusite.

Amos 7:6 The LORD repented for this: This also shall not be, saith the Lord GOD.

Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.

The repentance of God shows he's a merciful God

I also notice that much of the scripture that has to do with God repenting, changing his mind or as some have explained remorseful, regretting, sad disappointed all have to do with when men sin or go against him.

Scripture says it doesn't please God to punish us, or destroy sinners but he has to

I also notice God doesn't repent from his blessings or change them

reading Numbers 23:19 something Balaam said that is who God has blessed no one can curse, even God won't change the blessings


I believe the repentance has to do with halting a thing n it not lasting but like scripture says God's blessings endureth forever cheesy
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Sunnycliff(m): 11:04am On Feb 16, 2020
BlueAngel444:


I also notice that much of the scripture that has to do with God repenting, changing his mind or as some have explained remorseful, regretting, sad disappointed all have to do with when men sin or go against him.

Scripture says it doesn't please God to punish us, or destroy sinners but he has to

I also notice God doesn't repent from his blessings or change them

reading Numbers 23:19 something Balaam said that is who God has blessed no one can curse, even God won't change the blessings


I believe the repentance has to do with halting a thing n it not lasting but like scripture says God's blessings endureth forever cheesy

Exactly. That shows you that when a man repents from his evil ways, there's nothing like punishment because of his evil deeds. Just like some people saying that Apostle Paul was persecuted because he persecuted Christians before conversion. Referring to sowing and reaping
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by benji93: 11:05am On Feb 16, 2020
You have made an argument which is quite controversial and subjective. While I agree that God is all-knowing, opining that everything is God's plan is a subjective statement. It depends on what you call a plan. Personally, i believe a plan must include the consequences of any action whichever direction the action takes. Some may think that a plan should consist of your objectives, in the case of God, everything that is, must be according to his plan. An important consideration when discussing the subject of God's plan is Man's free will. There's a cost for having free will. Live with the consequences of your actions. in fact there are layers of the subject of "action and consequences". Doing the same things under different circumstances may not have the same consequences. if God forces everything on us, i.e, Lagbaja must do this, then the existence of free will goes straight out of the window. Again what your free will entails may vary under different circumstances. As a Christian for example, you had the free will to choose, and this choice in a way limits other aspects of your free will. You cannot do so so and so. So as we exercise our free will in one aspect, other aspects may change. And of course there are still some aspects of God that are mysterious. My 2kobo.
Ausrichie:

I thought that since he is the all knowing god that always was he should be above mistakes na. Mtchheeew religion self ehn especially Christianity and Islam even Greek mythology get better explanations.

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by ilyasmuy: 11:05am On Feb 16, 2020
No religion abused God as much as Christianity. The attributes they attach to God are disgraceful

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 11:07am On Feb 16, 2020
AntiChristian:
grin

OP it's not what you think? grin

I read this guys above and I wonder if their God is all knowing!

A God that has absolute control and knowledge of the future needs not repent!

God should be above regrets!
this guy, cheesy happy Sunday did u go to church today grin

I believe God knows everything

I also believe God feels as well, I have understood from people's responses so far what it means. like a father who knows what the mistakes a child would do but is unhappy about what that.

I mean if it simple means God is unhappy with sin
and God is happy blessing us.. then that's good cheesy
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Openbusiness: 11:09am On Feb 16, 2020
Uyi168:
..
What's the premise of the op again
To know meaning of that statement. I don't want to believe you have comprehension issues.
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by dionflex: 11:09am On Feb 16, 2020
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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Ebere2020(m): 11:11am On Feb 16, 2020
In the first context, I agree. But moving forward, if God could repent, that means the salvation Christ brought wasn't one sided. It was for both God and man. For he broke his own commandments trying to draw man closer hence the blood on the cross of Calvary
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 11:11am On Feb 16, 2020
Robin1759:
There was a mistake in his pervious action.
Period.
the almighty God doesn't make mistakes, He plans the end from the beginning and his word never fails but men n flesh fail.

If God was happy about the darkness and void that was he wouldn't have made light, so till all things he has said come to pass he will be grieved till it is fulfilled and evil and wickedness are no more upon the face of the earth
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by dazzlingd(m): 11:11am On Feb 16, 2020
All is trash, religion is trash...brainwashed black mofos

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Nobody: 11:12am On Feb 16, 2020
BlueAngel444:


Haven't you read in Scripture that God knows the end from the beginning.

free will is an illusion

well but it's either God's will or men's will (illusion by devils n demons that we are free to go outside God)

God that knows the number of hair on a person's head haba
free will isn't an illusion, it is the basics upon which judgement comes (else everyman can say God I didn't do this on my own you did, so you can't hold me accountable).


Yes God knows the end from the beginning but it is still your decisions, choices right and wrong that determined that end.

You think God didn't know Adam and Eve would sin b4 creating them and adding freewill to them?

You think he hadn't prepared Christ for the fault of Adam and Eve even before they were created?

He understood the Injustice it had been for everyone to suffer from Adam and Eve error which again was solely the error of Adam and Eve not his.

In a nutshell he saw the end from the beginning, and his plan and reaction was only carved out to match the decisions the Man has made.

Hence he sees the end yes, but our actions and choices are what defines that end, his input is fruit we must really from our choices
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 11:13am On Feb 16, 2020
ilyasmuy:
No religion abused God as much as Christianity. The attributes they attach to God are disgraceful
attributes like?
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Nobody: 11:17am On Feb 16, 2020
Religion feeds on fear and ignorance.
Religion teaches acceptance without questioning.
Questioning is considered an act of unbelieve.
Most people never reason how the whole thing started; we forgot that someone infuse this sh*ts into our heads before we grew the ability to question. God was designed to check the level of our reasoning and questioning while the priest reminds the weaklings about cain and carrot.

Growing into believing a god is not different from how you build your personality around the names you answer. Which came first? You or your given names. Is your name your name? At what point in your life did you start identifying with your names? Can you remember telling yourself at the age of 6months; this is my name? Dogs respond to names, does that mean it is their name? Are they even dogs? At what age did you know or accept god as your creator? is it your thinking? If you can feel bad when your "given" names are insulted, don't you think the same thing is applicable to your given God or given tribe, etc?

Check that thing you are defending very critically, honestly, they are instructions that grew up with your consciousness. Yes, they influence our illusory life so strongly in so many ways, but, it will never change the reality of who we really are.

The defenders and promoters of religious bullsh*ts do so for different reasons; some do it out of fear and ignorance, some do it out of 'spiritual' arrogance and urge to dominate, and some do it because many do it or because they are jobless.

Is it not stupid, that a created being whose source is a book written by another created being attempts forcing a creator on another created being. Is the creator not in all creation? Can a pot say to another pot- "here is the potter?"

God is in All and those who seek will find, not through any compilation of egoic bullsh*ts called God's word, but by faith.

God's word is his creations, pay attention.

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by gawu1: 11:18am On Feb 16, 2020
Mikehot:
yes you can associate such word to him because it was the people of Israel that cried they needed Saul as their king, it wasn't God's choice but he told Samuel go annoint him for them



It's funny that someone who calls pmb his beloved accuses others of not having a brain
The logic is on you who thinks pmb actions, a mere mortal he is, must be perfect while mistakes of your Lord-God can be excused.
What that portion tells is that Jesus who you refer to as Lord never was, but actually a mere mortal sent by the Lord to lead his people at that time and he could not have been perfect because perfection is an attribute only for God, the Creator.

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Re: "And The Lord Repented" by ogolad(m): 11:20am On Feb 16, 2020
The word repented here does not really mean direct interpretation, it depends on which version of Bible you read, like NIV, it says regretted.

Until the day Samuel died, he did not go to see Saul again, though Samuel mourned for him. And the LORD regretted that he had made Saul king over Israel. I Samuel 15v35.
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by ronyman(m): 11:21am On Feb 16, 2020
No be only saw, na Cutlass
holyDaniel:
Saw allowed himself to be possessed by evil spirit.
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by BlueAngel444: 11:23am On Feb 16, 2020
Reality11:


It means the lord is not omniscient hence repenting because an omniscient being need not to repent or is he acting out of a script?

It means you have to start using your brain, this is a clear proof of inconsistency and contradiction of the Bible against itself, reasoning and common sense.

Repentance really isn't changing one's previous action but acknowledge what is wrong.
like when God darkness wasn't ok, it wasn't ok for man to be alone. If God was happy with it he would have no need to change it.

when the prophets like Daniel repented it wasn't because they did something wrong

God not pardoning sin as been his nature every since. God doesn't condone rebellion.

God said let there be light and saw, there was need for him examining what he had done. God was judging his own work

and kept working till it pleased him.
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by arazanbal: 11:24am On Feb 16, 2020
Mikehot:
Regretted is the meaning

And if you check further than that verse you would understand it was justified.

Btw, it was the children of Israel that lamented they needed a king to be like other nations too.

God already had his plan for them but since they couldn't wait he sent Samuel to annoint their choice for them so it wasn't his own choice he regretted on.


God gave man the freewill to make choice, think and make decisions and if he wanted to be overiding the choice of man because he has all powers then he would have made us like animals instead.

God having power over past and present doesn't mean man's freewill and choices doesn't shape what the future becomes just like Adam and Eve did, just like Abraham did with haggi etc



you get sense pass many wy call dem selfs pastors, i bilive say na dis freewill mata make satan start rebellion in heaven, because angels dont have it as humans have
Re: "And The Lord Repented" by Nobody: 11:26am On Feb 16, 2020
gawu1:

The logic is on you who thinks pmb actions, a mere mortal he is, must be perfect while mistakes of your Lord-God can be excused.
What that portion tells is that Jesus who you refer to as Lord never was, but actually a mere mortal sent by the Lord to lead his people at that time and he could not have been perfect because perfection is an attribute only for God, the Creator.
first of all I never put buhari and the Lord in the same sentence cos it is sacrilege.

Next is I have dealt on this topic if you can scroll up and read again.

The story you are rambling about on the Lord been sent and wasn't perfect, I still don't know the verse you referring to cos that's not even the subject of discuss here.

Maybe you can create another topic on it so I educate you on it

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