BlueAngel444:


Do you even understand what is means to repent or you just swallow whatever you're told

wait so Allah corrected the yeye god? You religious folks are very confused with ur pride for supremacy

Zooposki:


Rolling my eyes. A god that is scared of the unity of humans. Is that one a god?

fortran12:


What is your proof? You just write what ever you like and come to a conclusion. Has anyone from the above denominations been ejected or denied entry, if the church welcomes sinners why will it deny fellow Christians?
I have been to all the above mentioned churches and I am not a member of any. I follow Jesus not a church.

ibinaboonline:
I wonder if you're even following the discussion at all.

ibinaboonline:
I'm actually happy to talk to you; you raise valid points. Okay, for starters, the fact that God chose Jacob and not Esau automatically puts Esau in 'rejected' zone. But God did not value 'love' Esau any less than He loved Jacob. No, I disagree that God loved Esau less.

Do you know one of the reasons God chose the Hebrews to be His possession out of the whole human race? It's an elaborate plan to reconcile the whole human race to God. From the way you've been talking, I'm sure you understand what I mean. It's because of the Jews that salvation is available today to anyone anywhere in the world. There had to be a starting point, the need for God to select one out of many so that through the one, the many will be brought in.

And as for Jeremiah, imagine Elon Musk. Elon and his designers conceive an idea, they make a sketch of that idea, and then they begin to develop the vehicle. Elon Musk could say to any of his Teslas: I knew you before you were even a prototype' in the sense that the Tesla is not a product of chance.Jeremiah was not born by chance neither is any human being. A Tesla may still misbehave. Jeremiah definitely had a choice to follow or unfollow God.

Even if a script was written for Jeremiah, he had a choice to follow that script or not.

As for God not loving the wicked, why are we charged to preach the gospel? Why? Why is evangelism the heartbeat of God? Ezekiel 18:21-23
[21]But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
[22]All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
[23]Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

In conclusion, Jesus died for every human being- everyone. I realize you may even be a believer so it hurt me that you talked like that. That passage says, WHOSOEVER BELIEVES WILL NOT PERISH. Those who join a club are the members- the chosen. It doesn't mean that others are forbidden or overlooked from joining. We're preaching every day so that more people will join us. That's what the gospel is all about. I wish that you and me will sit down and have a long talk because I think you reason very well.

fyneboi79:
misinterpretations and misunderstanding means then a possibility of the "judgment day" not holding because it nullifies personal accountability due to
biblical misconceptions about Gods true intentions.

DEHVEHLOP:



I beg you in the name of Jesus Christ to put on just cherubim or celestial cap and necklace and try to walk through MFM Prayer city from any of their gates and see for yourself

tejpot:

Yes he can be, if that answers your question. But ultimately, His reactions carry Justice and most significantly grace. From the fall of Adam till now, It is not new that our sins and misdeed angers God and it is also true that God has always been in search of men that will serve Him and stick to the instructions he has given them. For everyone God deals with He has specific instructions and they are appraised based on these specifics. That's equity!

BlueAngel444:
lol,

When they think "Let us reason together says the Lord" means anything other than shut up, listen, learn and gain understanding like children reasoning with their father

Mikehot:
yes you can associate such word to him because it was the people of Israel that cried they needed Saul as their king, it wasn't God's choice but he told Samuel go annoint him for them



It's funny that someone who calls pmb his beloved accuses others of not having a brain

Ikem11:
One gift God gave man is free will to choice whatever they want... Someone will ask if God know all we do even before we do them doesn't that mean our free will means nothing

Let me explain what God regrets in man.

God already watched how our life started and ended ( he only watched it but didn't interfere in it') heknows any step we will take cos he already watched the future and knows that's the step we took.

God regretted Saul as a king cos he already saw the future which isrealities as humans couldn't see.

God doesn't regret his actions but actions that resulted due to man's deviation from his plans as God

benji93:
You have made an argument which is quite controversial and subjective. While I agree that God is all-knowing, opining that everything is God's plan is a subjective statement. It depends on what you call a plan. Personally, i believe a plan must include the consequences of any action whichever direction the action takes. Some may think that a plan should consist of your objectives, in the case of God, everything that is, must be according to his plan. An important consideration when discussing the subject of God's plan is Man's free will. There's a cost for having free will. Live with the consequences of your actions. in fact there are layers of the subject of "action and consequences". Doing the same things under different circumstances may not have the same consequences. if God forces everything on us, i.e, Lagbaja must do this, then the existence of free will goes straight out of the window. Again what your free will entails may vary under different circumstances. As a Christian for example, you had the free will to choose, and this choice in a way limits other aspects of your free will. You cannot do so so and so. So as we exercise our free will in one aspect, other aspects may change. And of course there are still some aspects of God that are mysterious. My 2kobo.

Unclesamo:

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u are still going back wat is being said... he watched ..meaning he knew everything.
dat cancels Free will...
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pls, Does God know d number of ppl going to hell??
immediately a child is born, does he know if he'll end in hell or heaven??

fortran12:


God gave free will so why weigh in when you have a choice? You understanding of God is wrapped

BlueAngel444:

Jesus that saw his disciples flee and scatter or one of his favorite peter deny him, and that billions will still reject him till went and died on the cross



I believe the better term isn't God sees the future but that Go writes the future, predestines it, predetermines it.

Alitair:


How come he didn't see that Eve will give Adam the forbidden fruit?
Why did God ask them where they are? (That means if Adam had lied he would have accepted)..
He predestines and predetermines it....? Does that mean the free will given to man is a façade?

Ikem11:


If Chelsea and manU is playing a match and I watched the match before u

If when you watching I said Chelsea missed a penalty.

Does me watching it before u watched it influence the person who missed the penalty?

That God watched how you lived your life even before you started living doesn't mean he interfered in it. All decisions were still made by you only that he knows the beginning and the end of you life even before u started living it.

fyneboi79:
wrapped? I think you are warped in the head. Christians,People who know so much by going from the unknown to the known because some ancient people from the known claim to receive information from the unknown.

BlueAngel444:
In I Samuel 15:35b and the Lord repented that he had made Saul king over Israel.

What does it mean, and the Lord repented?

Unclesamo:

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nice I got dat part...but not fully related.
I barely engage in dis kind of mysterious Questions.
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thanks for ur time.
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before He Forms a man into his mother's womb, he knows how he will end up in hell ...(because he knows everything)....and God still form such being for creation.
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from dis , can we say God creates some ppl for destruction??
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(d bible mentioned d sons of Perdition)

thundafire:
u just showing signs of a psychiatric patient,He is all knowing and sees all,Satan was sent down to earth and dey Satan tempted Eve because he knows God gave man independent mind set and Satan always uses dey weakness in men to justify his actions, God will destroy gays/lesbian cs it's a sin to him and no mercy dats y Jesus came down to redeem dey mankind to Him or else He will destroy the world,so stop writing nonsense God is a merciful God and a consuming fire

fyneboi79:
You are a big FOOL!
1. Why did God push Satan down to earth?
A. Satan pass am.
B.Satan is indestructible.
C.Satan has equal powers.
D. God power no reach to kill Satan.

BlueAngel444:
Na wa o
Y u just mention gays

Anyway God will destroy liars, well almost all men are liars. God will also destroy adulterers, thieves, greedy men, abusers, murders, mockers, scoffers, greedy men, selfish etc etc etc.

Bacteriologist:


Slow down your horse. I understand how difficult it is to reason because your brain has been damaged by religious platitude and semantics.

Let me dumb it down for you:

An all-knowing god KNOWS EVERYTHING. Including his actions and THEIR CONSEQUENCES.

It would follow that such god would not have to regret or repent. Because he knows the end result of his action in the first place.

A god that understands the consequences of his actions and then goes on to do them anyway is a sorry excuse for a god.



Also, a god who creates people knowing they would screw up and piss him off and then chooses to punish the creation eternally for doing what HE very well KNEW they would do is a sadistic, masochist, tyrannic asshole who luckily doesn't exist. Except in the head of religious fools like you.

Openbusiness:

He did know the outcome, and that's why David was his plan all along. Remember, Jesus was a "blood" descendant of King David, and not Saul. As for Saul being king, The people wanted a king, out of their rebellion against God because up until that time, Israel never had a physical king, they had judges and God was their King directly. But they rejected God as king and demanded for a physical king like other nations. In response to their rebellion, God gave them Saul, the kind of king suitable for rebellious people. So the King Saul project was never going to last, because God hates rebellion. And later Saul would rebel against God just like the people he represented.

Widall:
I also need an explanation of this. Cos he is a perfect God, why should He now repent?

fortran12:


We are just arguing and next you abuse me, shows the type of person you are. There are people who have experienced God, its not just cos of some ancient people. If you think critically, you will see that there are a God. Just a look at DNA, you will see it did not write itself or happen by accident.

Ikem11:


No God didn't create anyone for destruction. Bible says " in the beginning God created" that word beginning means there is "first" "original plan"

There is a beginning before God start making plans meaning before that beginning God wasn't thinking about creation of man... His spirit was hovering around the dark universe like the Bible clearly stated.

When God first think about creating man, he made Adam in the intention of them having a fellowship ( which we have now as church)

When God make decisions He doesn't go back from it because He is not a God of mistakes. But man sinned and deviated from Gods original plan of it and sin entered (remember God don't interfere in our free will of choice cos He made man in His image not animals)

If a man deviate from God's plan for him next is destruction. That doesn't mean God made him for destruction man choosed destruction.

God told Jonah to go tell people of Nineveh of Gods plan to destroy them but they all repented ( going back to God's original plan) and God spared them.