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blueAgent:
Its obvious you don't know what you are saying.

What enables plants to grow?

I expect us to speak together as Christians. We all grow in knowledge everyday and everyone we look closely at the word of truth. Why are you acting like a JW?

blueAgent:
When did City start meaning Earth?

Rev 20:9:
"And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

Rev 21:2:
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."

shadeyinka:
When the time comes I hope we'll see each other and remind ourselves of this argument (over nothing LOL)

FWIW, I am pleased you owned up to kept submitting argument(s), while I discussed with you that the sun, moon and stars wouldnt be destroyed.

Illumination, is not the only purpose of the sun, moon and stars, you know shadeyinka, lol, hmm? You do know shadeyinka, that the moon's purpose is not only for mere mark time, the seasons and days and years, erhn, lol? Are you aware of the effect what an absent moon would do to Earth and its motion about its axis, huh?

shadeyinka, hypothetically speaking, if the sun, miraculously should disappear, do you have any idea, how long we will survive for, before getting frozen to death because the sun is no longer there to give out its heat energy, hmm, lol?

I can go on, into deeper and more details on biblical cosmology and/or celestial mechanics, but wouldnt, as it will turn the discourse into information overload

shadeyinka:
I expect us to speak together as Christians. We all grow in knowledge everyday and everyone we look closely at the word of truth. Why are you acting like a JW?

Fyi, the end part of your above comment, constitutes intolerance, prejudice and/or bigotry to JW. Was it necessary to single out JW when responding? Why are you acting that way?

MuttleyLaff:
Fyi, the end part of your above comment, constitutes intolerance, prejudice and/or bigotry to JW. Was it necessary to single out JW when responding? Why are you acting that way?

I can only speak of what I know. By the way, I refer to you, not them!

MuttleyLaff:
FWIW, I am pleased you owned up to kept submitting argument(s), while I discussed with you that the sun, moon and stars wouldnt be destroyed.

Illumination, is not the only purpose of the sun, moon and stars, you know shadeyinka, lol, hmm? You do know shadeyinka, that the moon's purpose is not only for mere mark time, the seasons and days and years, erhn, lol? Are you aware of the effect what an absent moon would do to Earth and its motion about its axis, huh?

shadeyinka, hypothetically speaking, if the sun, miraculously should disappear, do you have any idea, how long we will survive for, before getting frozen to death because the sun is no longer there to give out its heat energy, hmm, lol?

I can go on, into deeper and more details on biblical cosmology and/or celestial mechanics, but wouldnt, as it will turn the discourse into information overload

But, no sea again meaning no tide.
The light of God is enough to completely replace the sun and it's duty.
A new heaven and new earth mean exactly that. It means a NEW solar system not necessarily a rejuvenated old system.

Don't forget that, there'll be no night there. That should mean that light reaches everywhere on the earth's surface evenly.

I think it's best to stop the intellectual exercise of the presence or absence of the moon or sun. We'll get there

shadeyinka:
I can only speak of what I know. By the way, I refer to you, not them!

blueAgent, too, only spoke of what he knew about you, and did so, unlike you, without bringing in or making any reference(s) to, a third party, like JW.

Stop trying to make fetch happen with "by the way I refer to you, not them"

MuttleyLaff:
blueAgent, too, only spoke of what he knew about you, and did so, unlike you, without bringing in or making any reference(s) to, a third party, like JW.

Stop trying to make fetch happen with "by the way I refer to you, not them"

To that, I have no apology to anyone.

shadeyinka:
But, no sea again meaning no tide.
The light of God is enough to completely replace the sun and it's duty.
A new heaven and new earth mean exactly that. It means a NEW solar system not necessarily a rejuvenated old system.

Don't forget that, there'll be no night there. That should mean that light reaches everywhere on the earth's surface evenly.

I think it's best to stop the intellectual exercise of the presence or absence of the moon or sun. We'll get there

Isn't the earth a rejuvenated project? Do you realise the extent of the every day environmental damage man has done to earth and the ozone layer, hmm? If you do, then you would understand why a new earth and new heavens would badly be needed

It is obvious "we'll get there" is your cop out and what you are going to be saying.

shadeyinka:
To that, I have no apology to anyone.

To that, a bigot, you are, and you're the last to know.

MuttleyLaff:
To that, a bigot, you are, and you're the last to know.

I have no apology to you or anyone about this. You need to make distinction about hate and opinion.
We can't all have the same opinion about everything. The same JW will call non JWs "Pharisees"!

Keep your opinion about me to yourself

MuttleyLaff:
Isn't the earth a rejuvenated project? Do you realise the extent of the every day environmental damage man has done to earth and the ozone layer, hmm? If you do, then you would understand why a new earth and new heavens would badly be needed

It is obvious "we'll get there" is your cop out and what you are going to be saying.

It's not an important issue to waste so much time and effort to.

All these arguments just because you guys thought you can only learn from some perfect teachers who won't make mistakes!

If this is how the first century group were organized do you guys think their reports will be that easy to compile in one volume?

The heavens and the earth has been damaged by the tiny little creatures on it who are like grasshoppers if compared to the magnificence of the owner {Isaiah 40:22} but this Almighty maker can't repair his works so he must burn it all up only to start making another for the same set of creatures!

Well "wisdom is justified by her children" ~Jesus of Nazareth. Luke 7:35

MuttleyLaff:
Fyi, the end part of your above comment, constitutes intolerance, prejudice and/or bigotry to JW. Was it necessary to single out JW when responding? Why are you acting that way?

That's what confirms us as a totally different and unique group! John 17:14-16

When talking about how
©We got here.
©Coexist peacefully.
©What becomes of us at death and after.

All intellectual groups on this planet go into endless arguments EVEN WITHIN THE SAME ORGANIZATION!

But within the congregation of holy ones there is no division because the spirit of TRUTH which belongs to the Almighty God permeates their midst! 1Corinthians 1:10

So it's a welcome development when those we've disown as not part of us single out our organization for bigotry.

John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth also condemned the first century Jewish religious setting, and all of them formed alliance to condemn not only John but also Jesus and his group! Matthew 10:22-25

shadeyinka:
I have no apology to you or anyone about this. You need to make distinction about hate and opinion.
We can't all have the same opinion about everything. The same JW will call non JWs "Pharisees"!

Keep your opinion about me to yourself

Hate and opinion have not been advanced by anyone here about that comment you made to blueAgent referencing JW.

You should first have thought of keeping to yourself your opinion of JW before spilling it out here with blueAgent. You don't mind voicing opinions about JW, but hypocritically don't want opinions about you aired.

It is not an opinion, that you're a bigot. It is a glaring fact about you that deserves being exposed.

shadeyinka:
It's not an important issue to waste so much time and effort to.

You really have no idea. Smh.

Maximus69:
That's what confirms us as a totally different and unique group! John 17:14-16

When talking about how
©We got here.
©Coexist peacefully.
©What becomes of us at death and after.

All intellectual groups on this planet go into endless arguments EVEN WITHIN THE SAME ORGANIZATION!
But within the congregation of holy ones there is no division because the spirit of TRUTH which belongs to the Almighty God permeates their midst! 1Corinthians 1:10

So it's a welcome development when those we've disown as not part of us single out our organization for bigotry.

John the baptist and Jesus of Nazareth also condemned the first century Jewish religious setting, and all of them formed alliance to condemn not only John but also Jesus and his group! Matthew 10:22-25

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A butterfly calling itself a bird because it has wings and can fly, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
You really have no idea. Smh.

Does it (the knowledge) add to:
Faith?
Love?
Purity?
Duty?
Character?
Fruitfulness?

I doubt. It's a good exercise anyway but I don't see much edification in it

MuttleyLaff:
Hate and opinion have not been advanced by anyone here about that comment you made to blueAgent referencing JW.

You should first have thought of keeping to yourself your opinion of JW before spilling it out here with blueAgent. You don't mind voicing opinions about JW, but hypocritically don't want opinions about you aired.

It is not an opinion, that you're a bigot. It is a glaring fact about you that deserves being exposed.

Now that you have aired your opinion about me, how has it changed anything.
Matt 23:27:
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness."

I've even been much milder than my Lord and Christ!

This case is closed!

MuttleyLaff:
A butterfly calling itself a bird because it has wings and can fly, lol.

Learn to speak in one voice with your cohorts claiming Christians first, then see how easy it will be for pagans to observe the TRUTH in you! Matthew 5:14-16

shadeyinka:
I've even been much milder than my Lord Jesus Christ!

The man from Nazareth was wrong!

A processed student of his here on Nairaland has displayed quality of the holy spirit (MILDNESS) better than the Master did! Matthew 10:24

shadeyinka:
Rev 20:9:
"And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them."

Rev 21:2:
"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."

You are confusing yourself the City came down from Heaven to Earth.

Were was the city before it came down, Heaven.
Where is their no need of the Sun and Moon, Heaven.

Stop mixing it up. when that city comes down to Earth it will require the Sun and Moon or less otherwise stated by God.

Double post

shadeyinka:
Does it (the knowledge) add to:
Faith?

=>(check) ✓ Yes

shadeyinka:
Love?

=>(check) ✓ Yes

shadeyinka:
Purity?

=>(check) ✓ Yes

shadeyinka:
Duty?

=>(check) ✓ Yes

shadeyinka:
Character?

=>(check) ✓ Yes

shadeyinka:
Fruitfulness?

=>(check) ✓ Yes

shadeyinka:
I doubt.

Not surprised you doubt. What do you know sef paapa?

shadeyinka:
It's a good exercise anyway but I don't see much edification in it

"Wisdom is supreme--so get wisdom. And whatever else you get, get understanding"
- Proverbs 4:7

shadeyinka:
Now that you have aired your opinion about me, how has it changed anything.

I repeat. It is not an opinion, that you're a bigot. It is a glaring fact about you that deserves being exposed.

shadeyinka:
Matt 23:27
"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward,
but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness."
I've even been much milder than my Lord and Christ!
This case is closed!

Matthew 23:27 fits you to a tee, as you don't mind voicing opinions about others and singling out JW to lump them with, but you hypocritically don't want opinions about you aired.

Maximus69:
Learn to speak in one voice with your cohorts claiming Christians first, then see how easy it will be for pagans to observe the TRUTH in you! Matthew 5:14-16

"Salt is good for seasoning. But if it loses its flavor, how do you make it salty again?
You must have the qualities of salt among yourselves and live in peace with each other”"
- Mark 9:50

Calling somebody else fat, doesn't in any shape or form, make you any skinnier, lol. Your pharisaical spirit is in the way of you able to love and live at peace with everyone.

Maximus69:
The man from Nazareth was wrong!

A processed student of his here on Nairaland has displayed quality of the holy spirit (MILDNESS) better than the Master did! Matthew 10:24

John 2:13-15:
"And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, and found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: and when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;"

MuttleyLaff:
"Salt is good for seasoning. But if it loses its flavor, how do you make it salty again?
You must have the qualities of salt among yourselves and live in peace with each other”"
- Mark 9:50

Calling somebody else fat, doesn't in any shape or form, make you any skinnier, lol. Your pharisaical spirit is in the way of you able to love and live at peace with everyone.

PEACE can't work without AGREEMENT! 1Corinthians 1:10

That's why honest hearted and sincere individuals stick to the one and only global group that's in agreement with themselves! John 17:20-23

Just point to any group that's in total compliance to the rules governing them and see if they will not have PEACE amongst themselves! Philip 4:7

If we don't love you people, we won't be coming for peace talks with you IN YOUR HOMES, but as long as you people aren't friends of Peace, you can't be our friends! 2Corinthians 6:16-17

shadeyinka:
John 2:13-15:
"And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, and found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: and when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;"

Àlàyé o!

Please is this what makes you MILDER than God's only begotten son, in whom the spirit of God abides?

If i call you a confused dullard now you and your friends will start spewing gibberish!

Well for your information, what Jesus did is according to the constitution of the land. That's what all patriotic servants of God supposed to do at that point in time, but because the people are feeling that if it's wrong the Pharisees won't permit such in the Temple, whereas it's the Pharisees that owns the business. Jesus as God's son did the needful, by cleaning his father's house!

Next time learn to talk with sense, nobody amongst the descendants of Adam can perform better than Jesus in exhibiting the fruitage of God's holy spirit!
That's why the Bible said he is the image of invisible God, the first born off all creations Colossians 1:15-16

Maximus69:
PEACE can't work without AGREEMENT! 1 Corinthians 1:10

That's why honest hearted and sincere individuals stick to the one and only global group that's in agreement with themselves! John 17:20-23

Just point to any group that's in total compliance to the rules governing them and see if they will not have PEACE amongst themselves! Philip 4:7

If we don't love you people, we won't be coming for peace talks with you IN YOUR HOMES, but as long as you people aren't friends of Peace, you can't be our friends! 2 Corinthians 6:16-17

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Àlàyé, this wobbly table you stand on, wey una wan disturb shake, you go fall yakata for ground wound ooo. I'll advise you to back down and don't throw stones at your neighbors, if your own windows are glass.

1/ Do you see denominations at each other's throats and not at peace with each other?
2/ Have you seen any self respecting matured mind come on to drag other individuals through the mud because of differing faith, huh? (i.e. refer to: Romans 14:1-12)
3/ I am 1000% sure, you're familiar with the saying: if you live in a glass house dont throw pebbles, or you want to say that JW hasnt got skeletons its closest that would fall out, if we should open the closest door ni, lol?

MuttleyLaff:
Àlàyé, this wobbly table you stand on, wey una wan disturb shake, you go fall yakata for ground wound ooo. I'll advise you to back down and don't throw stones at your neighbors, if your own windows are glass.

1/ Do you see denominations at each other's throats and not at peace with each other?
2/ Have you seen any self respecting matured mind come on to drag other individuals through the mud because of differing faith, huh? (i.e. refer to: Romans 14:1-12)
3/ I am 1000% sure, you're familiar with the saying: if you live in a glass house dont throw pebbles, or you want to say that JW hasnt got skeletons its closest that would fall out, if we should open the closest door ni, lol?

Opening skeleton is not what Jesus sent Christians to do Sir!

Because humans will always make mistakes until we attain perfection, that's why Jesus never said his followers will not commit blunders, but no matter what, they'll always stick together with one mind!

So stop thinking that the PAST MISTAKES of God's people makes them equal to pagans who aren't in agreement even within themselves!

Maximus69:
Opening skeleton is not what Jesus sent Christians to do Sir!

Because humans will always make mistakes until we attain perfection, that's why Jesus never said his followers will not commit blunders, but no matter what, they'll always stick together with one mind!

So stop thinking that the PAST MISTAKES of God's people makes them equal to pagans who aren't in agreement even within themselves!

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Ogbeni, nobody said anything about opening skeleton.
One of the facts, mentioned, is that, if you leave the closet door open, are you sure JW skeletons wont fall out, lol

Oh-oh, so you know people and/or followers will and do commit blunders, and that, no matter what, they'll always stick together with one mind, erhn? Like the JW, the Methodists, Baptist, CoE, Aladura, C&S, Penterascals/pentecostals lol, charismatic, Seventh Day Adventist, Latter-day Saints etcetera do.

No matter how much deep JW skeletons are buried, no matter how much sweet smelling lavender is poured upon the skeletons, the stench of rotting fish head, still stinks and reaches sky high, so dont come up here pretending JW smells of roses. In fact, be careful, up there, on your high horse, its a long way down to fall from, lol.

MuttleyLaff:
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Ogbeni, nobody said anything about opening skeleton.
One of the facts, mentioned that if you leave the closet door open, are you sure JW skeletons wont fall out, lol

Oh-oh, so you know people and/or followers will and do commit blunders, and that, no matter what, they'll always stick together with one mind, erhn? Like the JW, the Methodists, Baptist, CoE, Aladura, C&S, Penterascals/pentecostals lol, charismatic, Seventh Day Adventist, Latter-day Saints etcetera do.

No matter how much deep JW skeletons are buried, no matter how much lavender is poured upon the skeletons, the stench still stinks and reaches sky high, so dont come up here pretending JW smells of roses. In fact, be careful, up there, on your high horse, its a long way down to fall from, lol.

Only a JW can migrate to any part of the earth with full confidence that he is still at home as long as JWs are in the place he is going!

You can continue deceiving yourself, none of the other religionists you mentioned up there can confidently travel to a strange land and demand for his brothers in Faith to welcome him home as their family member just because they both belong to the same Religious group (denomination as you people ofter refer to yourselves)

WHY?

Because your faith is not strong enough to bury racism and politics that's causing deadly conflicts in your midst!

So even if you meet a member of your religious organization in another state here within Nigeria, the fear of tribal prejudice will never allow you to walk up to him and expect to be treated as a brother, unlike a Jehovah's Witness who will boldly knock on any door to find his brothers and sisters, and feel at home once he discovered they are Jehovah's Witnesses, the love in our midst has killed RACISM and POLITICS so whenever you find a JW in any part of the earth, know that Maximus can eat, drink and sleep confidently in MY BROTHER'S HOUSE!

Hope you too can do the same!