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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by MetaPhysical: 6:20pm On Feb 27, 2020
Patrioticman007:


What of the English Empire that colonized and forced Christianity on Africans ?.

What of the Roman Empires that colonized the English & forced Christianity on the world after killing Jesus ?.

So you agree that fodio was a terrorist. Romans have always been known to be terrorists, they dont deny their past.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by AfrokanGod: 6:22pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:


If it's t was northern Nigeria problem why are you crying? Lol you're going to continue taking pills for some else's head ache till futher notice. You guys are a funny bunch.
Money that should be used to fund quality education or fund infrastructure projects in the south is being wasted in the north. Thats why i am complaining.
Or do you see me complaining of chad/Niger republic?

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 6:24pm On Feb 27, 2020
AfrokanGod:

I have said this before, When Nigeria divides/restructure, The bokoharam, almajiri, poverty, illiyracy, bandits would be purely a northern problem. Until them, it is my problem because money that should be used to fund better quality education in the south or money that should be used to fund infrastructure projects in the south is being wasted in the impoverished north

Lol you know your original comment makes no sense. Now you have switch the goal post to other issues. At first dan Fodio should be celebrated and remembered as a terrorist now it's about taxes. Dont take medicine for some elses headache. As you said Dan Fodio is northern Nigeria's problem.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dreason(m): 6:27pm On Feb 27, 2020
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by AfrokanGod: 6:30pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:


Lol you know your original comment makes no sense. Now you have switch the goal post other issues. At first dan Fodio should be celebrated and remembered as a terrorist now it's about taxes. Dont take medicine for some elses headache. As you said dan Fodio is north Nigeria's problem.
Remove Northern Nigeria from Nigeria.Southerners shouldn't be sharing a country with people who literally worship Danfodio.
Before Bokoharam attacked the central mosque in Kano, Bokoharam was also celebrated in the North.Southern Nigeria can never move forward with an anchor/parasite like Northern Nigeria

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 6:34pm On Feb 27, 2020
eagleu:
OP, you forgot to tell us that Mohammed Rumfa, the zakin Gobir welcomed Fodio to his court and kept him as adviser for so many years, until Fodio himself wanted to succeed the king, and then fell out with his son. His reason for attacking the Hausa palace was because the people practiced "impure" islam, much like the ISWAP and BK today.
Nigeria will never advance until the real history of the atrocities of Fodio is appreciated, and corrected.

Thank u!
Meet an Hausa scholar and he will tell you how fulanis used religion to brainwash them into allowing them to Lord over them as Allah representative in Nigeria.

By the time they knew it, everything was taken over by them and they were relegated to the villages to farm.
Not only farm but farm for the fulanis who has also taken over their lands.

The fulanis are the most educated in the north. So all govt openings naturally went to them.

In as much I hate politicians, I can see what ganduje is doing.
He isn't a fulani puppet like kwankwanso and if that man still stays in the corridor of power in the next 10 yrs, the hair as will fight those people.
He has systematically made Hausa people emirs irrespective of the story behind that.
That office is strictly fulani.
He is chasing their children out of the street.
Once they are educated, they can challenge the fulanis.
That's the only way

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 6:36pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dreason:

I thought dan fodio was a fulani man?

He was a fulani man. He was simply born and grew up the region. The fulani were always around doing living their nomadic lifestyle. As this story implies some settled.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nobody: 6:39pm On Feb 27, 2020
Enculer2:
Usman Dan Fodio the father of terrorism in Nigeria.
And Buhari is seen as the modern day usman.
Go figure. Trying to complete what us an couldn't with his henchman shakeu
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by codemaniacs: 6:41pm On Feb 27, 2020
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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by engrchykae(m): 6:43pm On Feb 27, 2020
eagleu:
OP, you forgot to tell us that Mohammed Rumfa, the zakin Gobir welcomed Fodio to his court and kept him as adviser for so many years, until Fodio himself wanted to succeed the king, and then fell out with his son. His reason for attacking the Hausa palace was because the people practiced "impure" islam, much like the ISWAP and BK today.
Nigeria will never advance until the real history of the atrocities of Fodio is appreciated, and corrected.
the op is a stupid person.
Usman fodio used taqiya to conquer the north.
His great grandson armadu bello continued his legacy of impoverishing the north.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by OgboAto: 6:43pm On Feb 27, 2020
The OP merely romanticized Dan Fodio. For instance, saying he retired from war is mere simplification. Dan Fodio ran mad - he became mentally unstable and had to be resigned to indoors.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 6:46pm On Feb 27, 2020
eagleu:
OP, you forgot to tell us that Mohammed Rumfa, the zakin Gobir welcomed Fodio to his court and kept him as adviser for so many years, until Fodio himself wanted to succeed the king, and then fell out with his son. His reason for attacking the Hausa palace was because the people practiced "impure" islam, much like the ISWAP and BK today.
Nigeria will never advance until the real history of the atrocities of Fodio is appreciated, and corrected.

LOL This couldnt be more inaccurate. Muhammad Rumfa was a king of kano in the 15th century, long before fodio was born. Rumfa himself was one of the first pioneers of islam in hausa land following the footsteps of Ali Yaji I, the first muslim ruler of kano. Muhammad Rumfas main adviser was Al Maghili.

Dan Fodio revolted against Yunfa not rumfa.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Dupamecano: 6:53pm On Feb 27, 2020
StaffofOrayan:
You are the clown here
And it's obvious you don't read, if you did you would have better understanding and discernment. He was the devil and his serpent seed is still plaguing the contraption called Nigeria.
I don't even know where to start lecturing you from, do you know the empires of the Negros before the Fulanis arrived? Every idiot that was unfortunate enough to invite them soon loses his throne and way of life.
Do you know who sold negros during the slave trade?
A lot of you are starved of knowledge.

I guess this is another instance of 'Abacha never stole'?




Fulanis have been living in the sahel region for a very long time, they have been a part of various african empires. They were a prominent part of hausa land and in kano especially the even had seats in the council of 9 (kingmakers) since the middle ages. Fodios war is not different from any war waged during the dark ages or any of the napoleonic wars or any of the many wars waged in europe and other continents. Its not a question of what fodio did, he clearly had good intentions given the time period or else the lower class most of whom were hausas wouldnt have joined his army. Plus most hausa states were experiencing an economic downturn during this age but the caliphate was able to revive their economies. Its not about living in the past and questioning actions that were not peculiar in their respective time periods, the vikings were war mongers and now the most peaceful people on earth. Its about leaving the past where it belongs and carving out a future for our children.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Chronicle222: 6:58pm On Feb 27, 2020
Usman dan fodio set up his camp and first mosque when he entered sokoto in a town called MONSHALASI in TANGAZA local government of Sokoto state

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:07pm On Feb 27, 2020
StaffofOrayan:
Oh I see, where is the prosperity and fairness dan fodio promised the dummies he conquered? I have tried finding it but all I see is poverty, disease and perpetual slavery,
Yes he really beat the Hausa's bad, infact so bad their children are shoemakers, mei suya, mei shayi, they have killed their way into being the spiritual head of muslims, another set of dummies who don't research.

Dan fodio is a typical fulani man, like Buhari, they would kill and maim to get to power, (using useful dummies like yourself) once they get power all they do is install themselves like a virus on a computer and destroy what they met, I call it the 'emir Trojan'

Nothing to celebrate, but of course Hitler is a bigass hero to some skinheads


Thank you very much. Blue3k2 seems to be the new mouthpiece of the Sokoto caliphate.

However, just like you said, I think Danfodio does not deserve to even be talked about cos it's a very big shame that many years later, the people whom he conquered to purify their islam and lead them are now the poorest, most illiterate and backward people in the world.

Danfodio destroyed the Hausa race and rendered them very backward and unproductive. Such a shame.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by MetaPhysical: 7:10pm On Feb 27, 2020
Every post from StaffofOranyan is instructive and educative...I got tired of giving Likes and I decide to just write a comment and say this guys is Oranyan incarnate. grin

There is nothing in his post not to like, NOTHING! �


This is not a good time for fulani in Nigeria. Under democracy and new age knowledge, all the myths of fulani nobility and dan fodio's acts of godliness are rubbished. It is clear to see now that Sokoto caliphate and its franchised Emirates practiced terrorism, kidnapping, human trafficking, and all other vices and atrocities demonstrated in bokoharam.

Imagine if we didnt have internet to get live updates and knowledge, some people will deceive us into believing Shekau is a man of god and the Army is the terrorist. grin

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by DennisEche(m): 7:11pm On Feb 27, 2020
StaffofOrayan:
Oh I see, where is the prosperity and fairness dan fodio promised the dummies he conquered? I have tried finding it but all I see is poverty, disease and perpetual slavery,
Yes he really beat the Hausa's bad, infact so bad their children are shoemakers, mei suya, mei shayi, they have killed their way into being the spiritual head of muslims, another set of dummies who don't research.

Dan fodio is a typical fulani man, like Buhari, they would kill and maim to get to power, (using useful dummies like yourself) once they get power all they do is install themselves like a virus on a computer and destroy what they met, I call it the 'emir Trojan'

Nothing to celebrate, but of course Hitler is a bigass hero to some skinheads



I love your response bro, so atikulated, lols, The man Fodio and shekau are same class.. The hausas are the victims because they lost their identity,, reasons why the Fulanis are rulling them while they are serving them as slaves conquered... The hausas need to wake up

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Ndipe(m): 7:12pm On Feb 27, 2020
Was this man, Gandoki, real or just plain fiction?
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by AreaFada2: 7:14pm On Feb 27, 2020
itsme01:


he made sure his conquered territories and that of his disciples maintain their culture and language, human sacrifice was largely stopped and slave trade reduced to criminals, his education also opened up a better chapter for northerners in the trans Sahara trade as more northerners could read Arabic and negotiate better
Abeg stop sugar coating it. He was the Boko Haram founder of that age.
Had Shekau or Yusuf overran Northern Nigeria since 2003 they would be called Sheikh and pious leader by now.

The man destroyed thousands of years of rich Hausa way of life. Period.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by ogbuefi677(m): 7:15pm On Feb 27, 2020
MetaPhysical:
Usman dan fodio and Shekau are in same league.

Those who wage a pretentious war of holiness to kidnap, rape and and pilfer.
Exactly how 'prophet' Muhammed lived his life. grin
If you doubt me,read the hadith

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by GeorgeTheCoder: 7:15pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:


They did if you cosider his legacy in education. They definitely failed to expact on it. His empire wasnt very stable to begin with. It probably would have fractured without British influence.


What makes you think so ?
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 7:16pm On Feb 27, 2020
enjoying the argument.
got little knowledge about islam in west africa.
was a boring course with names of place and people that i cannot pronounce or even spell correctly.



so make una continue abeg

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Enculer2: 7:19pm On Feb 27, 2020
AfrokanGod:

There was islam in the west and north before Danfodio came to terrorize the north with is own version of Islam.
Islam came to Nigeria through trade with arabs and north Africans.

I see. The Yoruba Muslims are tolerant compared to Hausa Muslims
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Enculer2: 7:20pm On Feb 27, 2020
codemaniacs:


it didn't fall to islam, when people want favors and promotions they join the religion of the people that can give them the favors and promotions.

If someone offers you a job of $1m yearly and one of the prerequisites is to go to mosque often and pray will you reject the job if you've been jobless and are very frustrated?

I see. How is it then that the Yorubas appear to worship the Hausa Muslims?

It appears that they look up to Sokoto for leadership.
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by itsme01: 7:21pm On Feb 27, 2020
AreaFada2:

Abeg stop sugar coating it. He was the Boko Haram founder of that age.
Had Shekau or Yusuf overran Northern Nigeria since 2003 they would be called Sheikh and pious leader by now.

The man destroyed thousands of years of rich Hausa way of life. Period.

if you read my later comments, I agreed to the fact that what he did is terrorism and I clearly compared him with others in his league who invaded other peoples territory for spoils of war, like King Solomon and David in the bible, the greatest of all war criminal and looter , King Julius Cesar the ruthless war criminal who is barely second to Solomon in history, British Monarchy on colonization expedition, and Adolf Hitler

all this people forcefully took control of other peoples territory through bloody war killing and looting, but then the topic is about Dan fodio and the little good about him, just has we talk of the others and the little good about them and their conquers

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Maski87: 7:21pm On Feb 27, 2020
Of what use is this information to biafrans
Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Nowenuse: 7:25pm On Feb 27, 2020
eagleu:



Your conclusion about Fodio leading citizens of Gobir to riot against their own king beats all reason and imagination.

Imagine an alien coming into sokoto today, and somehow convincing present day citizens to riot against the sultan.

First, you can see all sorts of logistical problems with that, and finally you should ask where was the king when all these were happening.

The truth was he killed the king, and somehow convinced some citizens that he was fighting for a purer form of islam, same way Buhari is locking up his opponent, because he is fighting corruption. Yet some citizens didn't accept Fodio for a long time, and those he simply murdered in the name of islam. Yumfa, the son of the sarkin Gobir was on of his victims.

Having accumulated power and resources, Fodio sent his cousin to Kano to replicate the same technique, and it worked, because he was a well educated strategist who understood how to confuse the masses with religious.

BTW, Alimi used the same technique in Illorin to subdue the greedy general working the northern borders of Oyo empire called Afonja. That's why Illorin has a Fulani emir today instead of an Oba.

Yes thank you for telling this truth outrightly to Blue3k2.
But you forgot to add that Mallam Dendo (a fulani offspring/follower) of Danfodio also did the same thing to the Nupes in Nupe land.

Danfodio and his Fulani army conquered Hausas, Ilorin and Nupes with exactly the same treachery technique. They come in peace as friends and the destroy the society and take over from within.

It is only Gombe, Jalingo (Muri) & Yola that fulanis conquered directly through war without treachery....
They however used treachery to maintain and expand it.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by DennisEche(m): 7:27pm On Feb 27, 2020
sassysure:


Thank u!
Meet an Hausa scholar and he will tell you how fulanis used religion to brainwash them into allowing them to Lord over them as Allah representative in Nigeria.

By the time they knew it, everything was taken over by them and they were relegated to the villages to farm.
Not only farm but farm for the fulanis who has also taken over their lands.

The fulanis are the most educated in the north. So all govt openings naturally went to them.

In as much I hate politicians, I can see what ganduje is doing.
He isn't a fulani puppet like kwankwanso and if that man still stays in the corridor of power in the next 10 yrs, the hair as will fight those people.
He has systematically made Hausa people emirs irrespective of the story behind that.
That office is strictly fulani.
He is chasing their children out of the street.
Once they are educated, they can challenge the fulanis.
That's the only way
In as much as you You made a good point, I did like to point out some few errors, Kwankwaso and ganduje are both Fulani's, the only Hausa man to have rule Kano state as a was Shekarau . You can imagine how they have conquered the hausas even though they are the majority in Kano yet all Kano govs and emir of kano are Fulani, take ilorin for instance, what is Fulani population there yet is only Fulani man that can occupy that position of emir of ilorin

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by eagleu: 7:28pm On Feb 27, 2020
Blue3k2:


The king made an illegal allien an advisor. Yunfa got lectures from illegal instead of expelling him? Did you logically think about this arguement.

Oh well the better military won and the rest is history. Btw I never schooled in nigeria. I've never seen the law stopping any tier of government from teaching it currently. The states stopped simply because they didnt care to fund it themselves.


Why is it a surprise that the Hausa king sought the advice of someone with a university education in 1742 when we still have all sorts of experterates serving in Nigeria today? You can blame him for being fooled, just like Afonja, but you can certainly see that happening.

On the other side, you don't see Yoruba or Igbo muslims going to Sokoto and preaching to the people that the sultan is practicing impure islam without a blowback: this goes against your revisionist idea that Hausa people supported a foreigner like Fodio against their own king without a lot of military and strategic manipulations thanks to his advanced education.

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by Blue3k2: 7:29pm On Feb 27, 2020
Nowenuse:


Thank you very much. Blue3k2 seems to be the new mouthpiece of the Sokoto caliphate.

However, just like you said, I think Danfodio does not deserve to even be talked about cos it's a very big shame that many years later, the people whom he conquered to purify their islam and lead them are now the poorest, most illiterate and backward people in the world.

Danfodio destroyed the Hausa race and rendered them very backward and unproductive. Such a shame.

You're another clown that doesn't know the historical context. Now it's dan Fodio fault they're are poor centuries after. You guys have mumu logic. By that logic it's luggards fault nigeria a 3rd would country 60 years after independence. Lol losers will always find someone to blame maintain their victim narratives.

The problems thst exist that region can bea result of policies they had. Everyome else manages to advance but you excuse mongers are blind to it.


eagleu:


Why is it a surprise that the Hausa king sought the advice of someone with a university education in 1742 when we still have all sorts of experterates serving in Nigeria today? You can blame him for being fooled, just like Afonja, but you can certainly see that happening.

On the other side, you don't see Yoruba or Igbo muslims going to Sokoto and preaching to the people that the sultan is practicing impure islam without a blowback: this goes against your revisionist idea that Hausa people supported a foreigner like Fodio against their own king without a lot of military and strategic manipulations thanks to his advanced education.

You're cant see the inherent contradiction in your post. You claim dan Fodio was an illegal alllien then say the king employed him. Thst means he had permission to be in the land. Your oint is also wrong since dan fodio was born and grew up in Gobir. He wasnt an outsider.

Lol you excuse mongers always have some justification for foolishness. He had the means to send his own subjects to acquire education and learn. He could brought teachers and books. Dan fodio declared war after attacked first.

Dan Fodio having followers of many ethnicities isnt revisionist. The taxes burden, religious persecution by Yunfa and assassination attempt led people to war against him. Is it manipulative to change minds?

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Re: Usman Dan Fodio: Founder Of The Sokoto Caliphate by saaron(m): 7:30pm On Feb 27, 2020
Taqiyya (Lies and Deception) Islamist number one tool of warfare.
If you ask Muslim fundamentalist today if Boko haram are muslims, they (islamist) will lie to your very face that boko haram are not true muslims. They'll say boko haram are mere criminals damaging the name of Islam. But these same Islamist celebrates one of the most savage muslim murderer and babarian to ever emerge out of West Africa, Usman Dan Fodio. They see him as their hero. A holy man who fought a holy war (JIHAD) for entrenchment of true islam. The same true islam Shekau is fighting for through genocide. Isn't that a coincidence? Why are islamist identifying with dan fodio and denying Abubakar Shekau? Because they don't want us (infidels) to know that Jihad has been declared on us. As cowards as they really are, islamist fundamentalist are scared shit of face to face combat. They dread it because they're simply not good at it. The only way islamist stand a chance in achieving victory in warfare is to keep the opponent in the dark. That's why they depends on element of surprise to wage war on their victims.
Fulani muslim fundamentalist may sponsor propagandist to write lies to paint Usman Dan fodio as a noble man who fought for true islam, but a look at fulani behaviour and babaric genocidal activities today gives Nigerians a clearer picture of who Dan fodio really is - A mass murderer!
Those celebrating dan fodio are secretly celebrating the head of Boko haram, Abubakar Shekau in their hearts.
Dan Fodio is a bloody mass murderer, slave trader, and a muslim terrorist nothing more nothing less.
ONE NIGERIA IS DEAD!

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