myobjective:


I don't know why southerners with close to zero knowledge about core north demography always like to romanticize the Hausa and dehumanised the Fulani when both group are one and the same. An average Hausa from the north west will die protecting the interest of the Fulani. I'm not saying that is a good or bad thing but that is how they want to live.

Thank you very much. I vehemently agree with this.
Hausas & Northern minorities muslims deserve no pity or sympathy cos they don't even want it. ... If they are comfortable and happy with the fulanis in their midst, no problem.

Only the Hausa Christians of Katsina, Zaria & Kano deserve any sympathy, but even they themselves have never come out to speak.

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Patrioticman007:


What of the English Empire that colonized and forced Christianity on Africans ?.

What of the Roman Empires that colonized the English & forced Christianity on the world after killing Jesus ?.

Stop telling stupid lies. The British never forced christianity on Africans. It was Western missionaries from America, Canada & Europe that came to evangelize Africans who accepted christianity on their own freewill.

If for anything, the British colonialists even promoted and supported Islam in Northern Nigeria using the indirect rule system of government.

myobjective:


Dan Fodio never conquered the Yoruba, if you are in doubt pick a history book.

His followers conquered a part of Yoruba (Ilorin) through treachery and sacked Katunga (the old Oyo empire)... However, Yorubas defeated and repelled them at Osogbo.

sassysure:


Thank u!
Meet an Hausa scholar and he will tell you how fulanis used religion to brainwash them into allowing them to Lord over them as Allah representative in Nigeria.

By the time they knew it, everything was taken over by them and they were relegated to the villages to farm.
Not only farm but farm for the fulanis who has also taken over their lands.

The fulanis are the most educated in the north. So all govt openings naturally went to them.

In as much I hate politicians, I can see what ganduje is doing.
He isn't a fulani puppet like kwankwanso and if that man still stays in the corridor of power in the next 10 yrs, the hair as will fight those people.
He has systematically made Hausa people emirs irrespective of the story behind that.
That office is strictly fulani.
He is chasing their children out of the street.
Once they are educated, they can challenge the fulanis.
That's the only way

Fulanis have heavily intermarried and Intermixed with the Hausas (especially the elite and middle-class)... The Hausa elite and middle-class are the only ones who can save Hausa land, but will they be saving Hausa land from their wives and inlaws (fulanis)?

Abeg forget Hausa people or northern minorities muslims. The only ones you can pity for are the 2-4 million Hausa christians who are indingenes of Kano, Zaria & Katsina. ...These ones need to emigrate to join Plateau, Southern Kaduna & Gongola and we join the south to fight out of this useless country.

Nowenuse:


Thank you very much. Blue3k2 seems to be the new mouthpiece of the Sokoto caliphate.

However, just like you said, I think Danfodio does not deserve to even be talked about cos it's a very big shame that many years later, the people whom he conquered to purify their islam and lead them are now the poorest, most illiterate and backward people in the world.

Danfodio destroyed the Hausa race and rendered them very backward and unproductive. Such a shame.

...far worse than that. He wiped off their cultural identity.

Musa Muhammed
Abubakar Isa
Ibrahim Suleiman
Yunusa Mamman
Yussuf Abdullahi

These are names you see in Hausaland, their own indigeneous names are wiped out. Gone...forgotten forever!

They used to have masquerades and babalawos and aborishas, they are all killed off. Hausas have forgotten their drum beats and dance steps. Because fulani told them it is sin to play music and dance....they said Muhammed will be upset.

Meanwhile, fulani refuse to let go of its own ancestral tradition of cow herding. Fulani do sharo and have not cared wether it upsets Muhammed or not. But they told Hausa their cultural practice offends Muhammed.

They wiped out Hausa tradition and said it was offensive to Allah...but the munafikis continue to practice bestiality and Bleep cows and even swap women.

Now Hausas get on dance floor and move like Indians and Arabs....their African dance steps have left them....no rhythym, no flow....just rigid steps!

May Allah wipe fulani off the face of this earth for its multiple atrocities and hatred to mankind.

Jimi24:


You are completely wrong my friend. You are romanticizing. Dan Fodio was not a moving, romantic figure. He was an idealistic. An Islamic purist. He built a caliphate not by design or deliberate self aggrandizenent but out of idealism and ideology.
I fund that most Nigerian are shallow and materialistic so they find it difficult to understand idealistic motivations.
If Dan Fodio had been more self motivated he wont have inspired Hausas to overthrow their kings and get please get it right that the Jihad was by mostly Hausas not Fulani

you are either ignorant or lying.
The 14 commanders of othman Dan fodio who later became the fourteen emirs of the northern kingdoms were all fulanis.
The hausas were first brought under the control of the fulanis when they accepted Islam,this made the hausas to obey their spiritual leader,othman to fight against their political leader,king yunfa.
The othman of a crook is simply a manipulator who understands the potency of spiritual authority.
Till date,the sultan of sokoto is a greater authority than even buhari.

mods abeg remove this thread from nairaland because we go take mouth and insult destroy this fulani ancestor fa.

Nigerians are not happy with fulani. In fact West Africa generally is not happy with them.

Its not good time to open thread about dan fodio.

DennisEche:

I love your response bro, so atikulated, lols, The man Fodio and shekau are same class.. The hausas are the victims because they lost their identity,, reasons why the Fulanis are rulling them while they are serving them as slaves conquered... The hausas need to wake up

Hausas are gone and gone for good. Not just Hausas alone, Bauchi & Yobe tribes and even Nupes & Kanuris to an extension.

The fulanis have heavily intermarried and Intermixed with the Hausas and northern minorities muslims (especially the elite and middle-class).
So do you want Hausas to be liberated from their wives, husbands, cousins and inlaws (fulanis)?

The only people who deserve a different life and destiny are the 2-4 million Hausa Christians who are mostly in Kano, Katsina & Zaria and are living as 4th class citizens on their ancestral homelands..

These ones need to emigrate to join Plateau, Southern Kaduna & Gongola Christians with whom they can easily integrate with and we all pull out of this useless country called Nigeria.

MetaPhysical:
mods abeg remove this thread from nairaland because we go take mouth and insult destroy this fulani ancestor fa.

Nigerians are not happy with fulani. In fact West Africa generally is not happy with them.

Its not good time to open thread about dan fodio.

Lol keep begging its already on the front page. You're free to type away keyboard warrior. Keep hoping allah destroys fulani since pussies like yourself. can rant online.

DennisEche:

In as much as you You made a good point, I did like to point out some few errors, Kwankwaso and ganduje are both Fulani's, the only Hausa man to have rule Kano state as a was Shekarau . You can imagine how they have conquered the hausas even though they are the majority in Kano yet all Kano govs and emir of kano are Fulani, take ilorin for instance, what is Fulani population there yet is only Fulani man that can occupy that position of emir of ilorin

Shekarau is a Baburr man from Southern Borno.

Blue3k2:


You're another clown that doesn't know the historical context. Now it's dan Fodio fault they're are poor centuries after. You guys have mumu logic. By that logic it's luggards fault nigeria a 3rd would country 60 years after independence. Lol losers will always find someone to blame maintain their victim narratives.

The problems thst exist that region can bea result of policies they had. Everyome else manages to advance but you excuse mongers are blind to it.

You don't know analogies.

Yes it's Danfodio's fault that Hausa land is poor because Danfodio's descendants who maintain and uphold his ideologies and legacy still controls the leadership structures of Hausa land.

Like someone once said. Fulanis are the colonial masters who never left. The British left!

codemaniacs:


the same way Nigerian christians appear to worship white people.

some Nigerian christians look up to britain for leadership.

No Nigerian Christian looks up to Britain for leadership except Anglican Church members.
It is rather the Hausa fulani muslim core north who look up to Britain for the support to keep their colonial estate intact.

Blue3k2:


Lol you clowns have shift the goal post when you cant win a debate. The hausa king Yunfa declared war first and lost. That beating leaves weirdos like yourself sore centuries later. I never claimed he was a saint but he's not the devil either because he conquered lands like the other empires did around him.

fodio of cursed memory is the evil wind that destroyed the north and brought in fulani menace to Nigeria.
Under what authority is fodio suggesting a religious reform?
As what?
The thing is that fodio having worked with the hausa king yunfa,have finished spying on the hausa kingdom and when he decided to go to war,he just started causing trouble.
Likewise when the British admiral Philip mischievously wanted to fight the Benin empire,he sent the oba a stick, which is an insult.
The oba killed the messenger and that's the reason the British need to invade and loot the Benin empire.
People like you should know that there are people like us here who knew the history of the world more than you can ever know
Don't come here and be making image laundry for the likes of fodio, Tamerlane, Genghis Khan etc.
Why not tell us about the goodness of Adolf Hitler?

Blue3k2:


Lol your comment senselessly defends religious persecution. Do you think Dan Fodio had zero hausa followers. He was the advisor of the hausa king teaching his version of Islam. The conflicts didnt start till they tried to silence his religious expressions with an assassination attempt. Grow up history isn't this good guy bad guy narrative like your comic books.

Bokoharam spotted. Forcing your archaic religion unto people right?

MetaPhysical:
Usman dan fodio and Shekau are in same league.

Those who wage a pretentious war of holiness to kidnap, rape and and pilfer.

If not for my patience I would have said something bad to you, bit I won't.
How can any objective thinker in his right sense equate a criminal like Shekau to Uthmān Dan Fodio?
Who does that?!

itsme01:



in that case king Solomon and king David are on this team and league, same as king Cesar, Queen Victoria, Alafin of Oyo, Awujale , Lagelu of Ibadan and his warriors, Kosoko of Eko

Atleast Dan Fodio and his men mostly commited palace coup, and avoided full blown war the above listed people fought war for the spoils and gains of war killing and maiming whoever was on their way, some even claim their God had promised other peoples ancestorial land to them

Hypocrisy is calling one terrorist and the other Colonialist or Prophet of God

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Do you mind the idiot!

Khaleell001:


If not for my patience I would have said something bad to you, bit I won't.
How can any objective thinker in his right sense equate a criminal like Shekau to Uthmān Dan Fodio?
Who does that?!

Shekau is even better than usman dan fodio to be sincere. When you talk about a real terrorists, you should think of usman danfodio that destroyed a whole ethnic group called hausa.

Blue3k2:


https://www.dw.com/en/usman-dan-fodio-founder-of-the-sokoto-caliphate/a-51995841

murderous land grabbing pig �

MetaPhysical:


...far worse than that. He wiped off their cultural identity.

Musa Muhammed
Abubakar Isa
Ibrahim Suleiman
Yunusa Mamman
Yussuf Abdullahi

These are names you see in Hausaland, their own indigeneous names are wiped out. Gone...forgotten forever!

They used to have masquerades and babalawos and aborishas, they are all killed off. Hausas have forgotten their drum beats and dance steps. Because fulani told them it is sin to play music and dance....they said Muhammed will be upset.

Meanwhile, fulani refuse to let go of its own ancestral tradition of cow herding. Fulani do sharo and have not cared wether it upsets Muhammed or not. But they told Hausa their cultural practice offends Muhammed.

They wiped out Hausa tradition and said it was offensive to Allah...but the munafikis continue to practice bestiality and Bleep cows and even swap women.

Now Hausas get on dance floor and move like Indians and Arabs....their African dance steps have left them....no rhythym, no flow....just rigid steps!

May Allah wipe fulani off the face of this earth for its multiple atrocities and hatred to mankind.

Fulanis are offsprings of Arab/Berber soldiers from North Africa who enslaved and raped Black West African women. Fulanis themselves don't know their history. They are offsprings of rape. Maternally they are related to us Black West Africans, this is why they speak a West African language. However, their paternal seed is from people who have enslaved and keep on enslaving Black people till date (Arabs).

So they are still in West Africa to keep on with that legacy, but very soon their time will be up. This I can promise them.

Yes! Hausas would have just been like Yoruba muslims today had it been Danfodio had not destroyed them. They would have been very tolerant and still hold on to their traditional values, customs, masquerades and festivals the way Yoruba muslims do.

Anyway, just to let you know that Hausa culture is not completely lost/wiped off.
There are 2-4 million Hausa Christians/pagans who are mostly centred in the deep rural areas of Zaria, Katsina & Kano and these ones still manage to hold on to the ancestral Hausa culture, traditions, festivals and even the traditional religion .... Although it is heavily and largely fading away and on the verge of extinction. It may not survive the next 25 years.

Bialegend:

Who told your jihadists danfodio to propose religious reforms for hausa people? Where did he get permission for that?

The problem I have with folks like you is anytime you see religion in any line or sentence it's as if you hair stands on end.
Bringing religious reform was a better deal for the people then than allowing some oligarchs to control them like slaves when they are not.

The question is, do you even know the details of some if these reforms?
And the bad thing is, some of you are just arguing for the hatred of it not because you are objective enough to see the facts on ground.

Nowenuse:


You don't know analogies.

Yes it's Danfodio's fault that Hausa land is poor because Danfodio's descendants who maintain and uphold his ideologies and legacy still controls the leadership structures of Hausa land.

Like someone once said. Fulanis are the colonial masters who never left. The British left!

You're anology is stupid no matter how you rationalize it clown. Hausa's freely elected them and have every opportunity to change policies. Even they're in charge its still the same thing. Only idiots believe the problem with the region is mainly correlated to fulani or ceremonial institutions. When britsh came they could have adopted new ideas but chose not to.

The fulani are minority and won't be going anywhere. If losers use that foolish excuse they'll never develop. The state can abolish the traditional institutions anytime it likes. Abacha deposed the sultan once upon a time. Their issues have moved past dan fodio. The policies practiced are their issue.

Nowenuse:


Stop telling stupid lies. The British never forced christianity on Africans. It was Western missionaries from America, Canada & Europe that came to evangelize Africans who accepted christianity on their own freewill.

If for anything, the British colonialists even promoted and supported Islam in Northern Nigeria using the indirect rule system of government.

The British empire burnt the Benin empire to ashes while also killing and looting its treasures, Go tell a Benin man he accepted Christianity on his own free will. Religion was an afterthought to the colonist, their first mission was to plunder the wealth of the colonised nation and they found out forcing their religion on their subject was one way to achieve their aim. King leopard came to congo under the guise to bringing religion to the savage congolease, he sought and got permission from the catholic church.

Nigerians had it better, south Americans where killed in their millions, the Congolese were also killed in their millions.

Christianity and Islam were spread by force, without force and subjugation how do you convince a man your god is better than is?

Read about the Spanish Inquisition, Read about the King leopards Colonization of congo, read about the Crusade.

MetaPhysical:


...far worse than that. He wiped off their cultural identity.

Musa Muhammed
Abubakar Isa
Ibrahim Suleiman
Yunusa Mamman
Yussuf Abdullahi

These are names you see in Hausaland, their own indigeneous names are wiped out. Gone...forgotten forever!

They used to have masquerades and babalawos and aborishas, they are all killed off. Hausas have forgotten their drum beats and dance steps. Because fulani told them it is sin to play music and dance....they said Muhammed will be upset.

Meanwhile, fulani refuse to let go of its own ancestral tradition of cow herding. Fulani do sharo and have not cared wether it upsets Muhammed or not. But they told Hausa their cultural practice offends Muhammed.

They wiped out Hausa tradition and said it was offensive to Allah...but the munafikis continue to practice bestiality and Bleep cows and even swap women.

Now Hausas get on dance floor and move like Indians and Arabs....their African dance steps have left them....no rhythym, no flow....just rigid steps!

May Allah wipe fulani off the face of this earth for its multiple atrocities and hatred to mankind.

LMAO You lot have no knowledge on the north whatsoever. What do you mean wiped out hausa culture? just as herdsmen practice the old way of life of the fulanis, maguzawas still practice the old ways of the people now known as hausas. Hausa tradition and culture from wedding and ceremonies to food to mode of dressing is very different from that of arabs or muslims. Culture is not defined by dancing like a possessed ape. You say fodio made hausas forsake their names, but read the names of hausa kings before fodios war. Especially those in kano who adopted muslim names since the 10/11th century. Your hatred and bile for northerners is shameless.

Bialegend:

Shekau is even better than usman dan fodio to be sincere. When you talk about a real terrorists, you should think of usman danfodio that destroyed a whole ethnic group called hausa.

Thousands and thousands of ethnic groups and civilizations have been destroyed and supplanted. Hausa is just one of them.
The 2-4 million Hausa Christians who live in rural areas of Katsina, Zaria & Kano at least cannot be destroyed cos they never contacted that evil virus of deception spread through Islam.

They are the only hope of the preservation of whatever existed of a once large and prosperous African race (Hausas).
Dozens of indigenous tribes in Bauchi & Yobe have also been destroyed but I wonder why nobody talks about them.

itsme01:



in that case king Solomon and king David are on this team and league, same as king Cesar, Queen Victoria, Alafin of Oyo, Awujale , Lagelu of Ibadan and his warriors, Kosoko of Eko

Atleast Dan Fodio and his men mostly commited palace coup, and avoided full blown war the above listed people fought war for the spoils and gains of war killing and maiming whoever was on their way, some even claim their God had promised other peoples ancestorial land to them

Hypocrisy is calling one terrorist and the other Colonialist or Prophet of God

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Yo pls I’d like to know are you religious. Cause you seem too smart to be.

Fodio was a land grabber and terrorist.

Let us endure a little and learn something from those who have some great knowledge about the life and time of Uthman Dan Fodio.
Abusive words should not be used here please.
Let us know something new.

Nowenuse:


Stop telling stupid lies. The British never forced christianity on Africans. It was Western missionaries from America, Canada & Europe that came to evangelize Africans who accepted christianity on their own freewill.

If for anything, the British colonialists even promoted and supported Islam in Northern Nigeria using the indirect rule system of government.

You see theres nothing more pathetic than northern christians like you. Your envy and hatred for the core north is laughable considering we gave you life. Without us you are nothing.

The whites didnt force anything on you. They just beat maimed and enslaved the south. Saw them as nothing other than apes because they like you lived like barbarians. And when they were done bludgeoning you they ingratiated themselves with you using the same religion they used to justify the atrocities against you. And it worked perfectly, you buffoons even thank them for it. LMAO

Khaleell001:


The problem I have with folks like you is anytime you see religion in any line or sentence it's as if you hair stands on end.
Bringing religious reform was a better deal for the people then than allowing some oligarchs to control them like slaves when they are not.

The question is, do you even know the details of some if these reforms?
And the bad thing is, some of you are just arguing for the hatred of it not because you are objective enough to see the facts on ground.

Just shut up your mouth and keep quiet. Who are you to tell a whole people what is good and what is not good for them? I say, who are you? Evil fulani, you think you have any right to decide for any other group except your own group? Your evil ancestor, came all the way from futa jalon, met a group called the Hausa and all of a sudden start to bring religious reforms to them and a devilish reform at that one. And you have the guts to come in here to call it a better deal. How do you know it's a better deal for them? Did they ask you to reform their own way of worshiping their Allah? Why did you have to do it by force?