Nowenuse:


And why do Maguzawa Hausas still practice the old ways of the Hausas? Was it not because they rejected the virus of Islam brought by Danfodio?

I wonder the rubbish you are explaining above.

Of course, Hausas will not abandon every aspect of their culture, cos not even the Pakistanis or Iranians or even Arabs completely abandoned their cultures for Islam. .... The only thing that unites all the groups mentioned above is that many of them have adopted Islam as their culture and find it very difficult to distinguish between their culture and religion.

So many Hausas will be ready to swear to you that Hijab is their culture. ... What foolishness could be more than this?

LMAO You said fulas practice their culture but hausas dont which is a bold face lie! Both ends of the extreme (nomadic fulanis and maguzawa) practice the old cultures. A northwestern classic hausa man today will relate easier to a northwestern fulani man in any city and vice versa. Maguzawas and herdsmen will find it very difficult to farternize with the north western man. The hausa - fulani tag though not an ethnicity on its own is an amalgamation of two concepts that any group which finds itself outside of the spectrum will find very hard to identify with. The urban hausas and fulanis have created a culture that transcends their ordinary selves.

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Nowenuse:


Thank you very much. I vehemently agree with this.
Hausas & Northern minorities muslims deserve no pity or sympathy cos they don't even want it. ... If they are comfortable and happy with the fulanis in their midst, no problem.

Only the Hausa Christians of Katsina, Zaria & Kano deserve any sympathy, but even they themselves have never come out to speak.

it's either Hausa Christians or Hausa Muslims.
That his is line of thinking without any shame that he is clearly lying through his teeth.

Nowenuse:


Who did you give life?

All that you people have brought to we middlebelters and northern minorities is nothing but backwardness, terrorism, poverty, illiteracy...

Mention one good thing I dare you.

I thank God that most of us have left/are now leaving your backwardness unlike many years ago... Educationally we are catching up to the South unlike decades ago when we were at the same level with you people.

Your second paragraph was barbarian English. I don't speak that. You can meet your cousins of poverty and backwardness in Niger republic, they are the ones who speak that.

We didnt bring any of that on you, you brought it on yourselves. What did you lot achieve before the brits? you lot were savages running around in your birthday suits. We tried to give you everything, even executed a coup and gave one of you the keys. How did you repay us? by stabbing us in the back like the barbarians you are.

Catching up with the deluded plonkers in the south is something to brag about? LOL! They are nothing but educated illiterates and they like you will remain in our shadows for as long as we please because you are inferior to us, all of you. You always will be.

Bialegend:

Shekau is even better than usman dan fodio to be sincere. When you talk about a real terrorists, you should think of usman danfodio that destroyed a whole ethnic group called hausa.

How did he destroy a whole ethnic group liar!

These are the lies you keep peddling for every zombie who has zero tolerance for facts to feed on and becomes fatteened by it ,not knowing they are swallowing loads and baggage of shits from shitheads like you.

Nowenuse:

So many Hausas will be ready to swear to you that Hijab is their culture. ... What foolishness could be more than this?

I dont understand how you guys be so dense. Culture is how a set of people express themselves. It doesn't matter where the hijab originated. It would be like claiming tea drinking isnt part of British culture because it came from China. Jiu Jitsu is not Brazilian cultural because the practice is asian in origin aswell.

Dupamecano:


Stop spreading lies. The phrase hausa christian is an oxymoron. These imposters do not speak or represent what we stand for. Fodio only finished what hausa kings like yaji and rumfa started. Hausas still are and remain prosperous. The two richest men in the north are hausas. Most prominent business men including two past presidents are of hausa descent. The most spoken indigenous african language is hausa. The largest ethnicity in the continent is hausa. See the holy union between hausas, fulanis and other muslim northern ethnicities has made the hausas infallible. You will die of jealousy and hatred.

So a handful of millionaires and billionaires amongst 90% of poverty stricken and illiterate people is prosperity? Are you sure you don't need to have your head checked?

That is the highest form of slavery of the masses to an elite few.

The most spoken indigenous African language is SWAHILI. It has official status in Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Comoros, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo e.t.c
Where is Hausa regarded as an official language?

Besides, how does a large population of poor illiterates portends any good? There are hundreds of millions of Arabs in the world, but there are only several million Jews, yet the Arabs are inferior to the Jews who control the world.

Holy union of poverty, illiteracy, terrorism and backwardness.

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Nowenuse:


Hausas are not free or wise enough to know what is good for them politcally cos first of all. The overwhelming majority of them are illiterates and hungry people who do what the fulani leaders tell them to do. Give the Hausa masses literacy and enlightenment and watch them send your asses back to Futa jallon!

Were Northern Christian minorities not in romance with the caliphate in the past? What changed?

Fulanis have infiltrated Hausa society beyond the traditional leaders, so the deposition of the traditional ruler won't change anything. Majority of Hausa elites, middle-class, scholars and Clergymen have been intermarried into fulani families.

Personally for me, I don't even care how poverty continues to ravage Hausa muslims.... Hausa Muslims and northern minority Muslims can perish with their Fulani leadership for all I care.
We just have to remind you people of your failures especially when you bring something like this here.

Very good point!

Nowenuse:


So a handful of millionaires and billionaires amongst 90% of poverty stricken and illiterate people is prosperity? Are you sure you don't need to have your head checked?

That is the highest form of slavery of the masses to an elite few.

The most spoken indigenous African language is SWAHILI. It has official status in Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, Comoros, Rwanda, Burundi, Congo e.t.c
Where is Hausa regarded as an official language?

Besides, how does a large population of poor illiterates portends any good? There are hundreds of millions of Arabs in the world, but there are only several million Jews, yet the Arabs are inferior to the Jews who control the world.

Holy union of poverty, illiteracy, terrorism and backwardness.

The story of inequality is uniformly the story of the country. Those two hausa men are richer than most ethnic groups combined.

LIES Hausa is the MOST SPOKEN indigenous african language, do your research. According to the spectator index hausa has 150 million speakers to swahilis 107 which given the demographic of hausa first and second language speakers sounds very accurate.

Stop moving the goal post, you claim we've lost our identity when on the contrary, we're the ones gulping up the identity of other ethnicities. A century of woes doesnt define us, we are blessed by God and we will rise again.

MetaPhysical:


Very good point!

How does it feel having an emir in illorin

Dupamecano:


LMAO The only people who bear hausa names today are your people. Arent you ashamed? you left your names for that of hausas? oh right, you didnt really have a choice. Your people were actually slaves. Always have been, always will be.

Have you ever seen where a slave lives a better and is more progressive life than his master?

Have you ever seen where a master does manicure (Parchen Kafa) for his slave? See mugu.

If our people bear Hausa names, there is no shame in it because Hausa is a Chadic language (indigenous African language). Many middlebelt tribes are also of Chadic origins and speak Chadic languages (related to Hausa)...
It is far better we answer Chadic names than English names.

Besides, Hausa names have died among our people. People don't give it to their children anymore... Show me one person from my region who is a youth and has a Hausa first name.

Blue3k2:


This point is incorrect. The mongols didnt impose their religion on the lands they conqured. They allowed for religious diversity.

That's an exception to the rule, he's points are valid

Rome did it to Greece
Greece did to Persia
Persia did to Babylon

Bialegend:
Hand and head cutter.

100% bro and you forgot to add pedophiles in the guise of religion

Khaleell001:



As if there was anything like Christianity in the north before the colonial masters came bulldozing their way through.

Most clearly lack the objectivity to deal with the topic at hand.

Colonialism brought about education and enlightenment and enlightenment brought about a more civilized behavior.

Missionaries who would have come before colonialism would clearly have been killed or eaten.

Also, colonialism brought about roads to the hinterlands which the missionaries could not be able to navigate before that time.

Why was christianity in parts of the coastal South before colonialism?

Nowenuse:


Have you ever seen where a slave lives a better and is more progressive life than his master?

Have you ever seen where a master does manicure (Parchen Kafa) for his slave? See mugu.

If our people bear Hausa names, there is no shame in it because Hausa is a Chadic language (indigenous African language). Many middlebelt tribes are also of Chadic origins and speak Chadic languages (related to Hausa)...
It is far better we answer Chadic names than English names.

Besides, Hausa names have died among our people. People don't give it to their children anymore... Show me one person from my region who is a youth and has a Hausa first name.

More prosperous than hausas? LMAO! Dude, all our house helps are one of you. Your ethnicities are synonymous with suffering and misery in the north. No one even knows who most of you are. more prosperous than us? I laugh in mandarin!

But arabic like hausa is an afro asiatic language yet you still tried to shame hausas for using arabic names. See your hypocrisy?

Its not just that you people steal hausa names, its that you steal the funny ones. Imagine someone being called "kashe aure" "wahala" "bawa" and co LMAO

Dont worry about us, worry about your irrelevant people.

Nowenuse:


Stop telling stupid lies. The British never forced christianity on Africans. It was Western missionaries from America, Canada & Europe that came to evangelize Africans who accepted christianity on their own freewill.

If for anything, the British colonialists even promoted and supported Islam in Northern Nigeria using the indirect rule system of government.

Yorubas were not conquered by Uthmān Dan Fodio but became Muslims through trading with the Malian merchants .
These lies you keep spreading will end one day and you wil walk home with your tail between your legs

Khaleell001:



Did you read how they lead their lives before the coming of Uthmān Dan Fodio reforming their way of life.
And I still insist it was a better deal they would have done anything to bargain for even till this day.

You folks always claiming superior knowledge of everything when it comes to the north, whereas you are nothing more than a rabble rouser with no known knowledge whatsoever you keep insisting on knowing hot airs and foolishly keep peddling half truths and no truths for your ignorant zombies who are always willing to like your quotes at a go.

Shaykh Uthmān Dan Fodio (may Allāh have mercy on him) was indeed an enigma in West Africa that even you fore fathers will do anything to re enact his sweeping reforms he carried out in the northern sub region till date.

And his religious teachings and legacies are still there for all to see and still remain unmatched by the greatest of your fore fathers.

Looking at the lives of Hausa fulani people today, mention one good thing which is a product of Danfodio's legacy.

I dare you.

Nowenuse:


His followers conquered a part of Yoruba (Ilorin) through treachery and sacked Katunga (the old Oyo empire)... However, Yorubas defeated and repelled them at Osogbo.

the cowards fulanis can't man up in an open confrontation.
They attack sleeping people

Nowenuse:


Looking at the lives of Hausa fulani people today, mention one good thing which is a product of Danfodio's legacy.

I dare you.

You shamelessly claimed he was a power monger who ran mad but he deliberately abdicated his throne to focus on being a scholar. Say what you want about him, his revolution was more than religious, it was a political movement that fought against injustice and the states were better off because of it akin to the french revolution.

MetaPhysical:


...far worse than that. He wiped off their cultural identity.

Musa Muhammed
Abubakar Isa
Ibrahim Suleiman
Yunusa Mamman
Yussuf Abdullahi

These are names you see in Hausaland, their own indigeneous names are wiped out. Gone...forgotten forever!

They used to have masquerades and babalawos and aborishas, they are all killed off. Hausas have forgotten their drum beats and dance steps. Because fulani told them it is sin to play music and dance....they said Muhammed will be upset.

Meanwhile, fulani refuse to let go of its own ancestral tradition of cow herding. Fulani do sharo and have not cared wether it upsets Muhammed or not. But they told Hausa their cultural practice offends Muhammed.

They wiped out Hausa tradition and said it was offensive to Allah...but the munafikis continue to practice bestiality and Bleep cows and even swap women.

Now Hausas get on dance floor and move like Indians and Arabs....their African dance steps have left them....no rhythym, no flow....just rigid steps!

May Allah wipe fulani off the face of this earth for its multiple atrocities and hatred to mankind.

the only thing the fulani allowed the hausas to keep is their hausa language so that it will be used for communicating and uniting the whole north.
I learnt fulani hears and speaks hausa but hausas don't speak fulde abi na fulfude abi na fulbe.
Fulani is evil

Khaleell001:



As if there was anything like Christianity in the north before the colonial masters came bulldozing their way through.

Most clearly lack the objectivity to deal with the topic at hand.

Actually there was a very prominent medieval king of Gobir who was a christian. He was known as sarkin gobir mai sakandami (the cross bearer) but his christianity was thought to have crept in from east africa.

myobjective:


The Fulanis were only raiding the pagan tribe of north central and north east for slave.

No one is trying to paint him positive but he must be judged according to the practise and norms of the people at his time.

Couldn't agree more. You're on point. However I was referring to the saintly figure the OP tried to present that harbinger of terrorism as, knowing many ignorants are all over nairaland waiting to eat his lies.

And yes he did try to paint him in positive by presenting him as pious warrior on a just cause cleverly leaving out his evil atrocities, comparing him with the Genghis Khan whose history can never be talked about about in warfare or achievement without not mentioning his many evil deeds.

Blue3k2:


Lol they're stupid and illiterate for centuries? You exuse mongers will always have justification for being foolish. It's not surprising losers relate to other losers. Nobody is stopping them from gaining literacy or enlightenment. The south doesn't depend solely on pubic school.

Nobody forced these marriages clown. If they want change they will make it happen. They not forced to obey they spouses wishes unquestionaing. Are you whiped in your household?

Lol people like youself dont even know the badic history. You only have a dumb narrative thst can't hold up to basic logic. You dont csre yet whining about dan Fodio more than any hausa on the internet.

Yes, Hausa land has been illiterate and brainwashed by religion for centuries, the same way Black Sudanese people of Nubian ancestry claim they are Arabs today

Yes, someone is stopping the Hausa masses from gaining literacy and that is the minority % fulani mixed elite and religious class who control their society...

Why don't you tell us the correct stuff since you know it more .... Nairaland is available for the whole world to read and learn.

Dupamecano:


How does it feel having an emir in illorin

A caged emir!

Everytime Yoruba leaders rise from meeting in Ibadan he is apprehensive.

O to Ge got him jittery. He started wondering if O to Ge was a sack notice.

If it was not for military he would have been sacked long ago. Did you not hear when OPC took trip to go topple him? Military posted everywhere. They turned OPC back at border.

We no longer under military rule. That caged emir is coming out.

engrchykae:
the only thing the fulani allowed the hausas to keep is their hausa language so that it will be used for communicating and uniting the whole north.
I learnt fulani hears and speaks hausa but hausas don't speak fulde abi na fulfude abi na fulbe.
Fulani is evil

LOL Did any fulani man stop a hausa man from learning fulfulde? what about the majority of fulanis who speak hausa but not fulfulde? is that how you subdue people? by assimilating with them and adopting their identity? Northern nigerian architecture, marriage rites, ceremonies, etiquette, clothing etc. Whose is it? You clowns are so funny!

MetaPhysical:


A caged emir!

Everytime Yoruba leaders rise from meeting in Ibadan he is apprehensive.

O to Ge got him jittery. He started wondering if O to Ge was a sack notice.

If it was not for military he would have been sacked long ago. Did you not hear when OPC took trip to go topple him? Military posted everywhere. They turned OPC back at border.

We no longer under military rule. That caged emir is coming out.

LMAO Not interested in your stories. Go and depose him. We dare you. If you dont you lot are spineless cowards.

DennisEche:

In as much as you You made a good point, I did like to point out some few errors, Kwankwaso and ganduje are both Fulani's, the only Hausa man to have rule Kano state as a was Shekarau . You can imagine how they have conquered the hausas even though they are the majority in Kano yet all Kano govs and emir of kano are Fulani, take ilorin for instance, what is Fulani population there yet is only Fulani man that can occupy that position of emir of ilorin

I read differently here.
Also, the Hausa people who worked for me said they are bothHausa. El rufai is fulani.
Dangote is Hausa.
Hausa has very few elites.
Inter marriage among their elites are minimal as fulanis always look down on them.

Nowenuse:


Fulanis are offsprings of Arab/Berber soldiers from North Africa who enslaved and raped Black West African women. Fulanis themselves don't know their history. They are offsprings of rape. Maternally they are related to us Black West Africans, this is why they speak a West African language. However, their paternal seed is from people who have enslaved and keep on enslaving Black people till date (Arabs).

So they are still in West Africa to keep on with that legacy, but very soon their time will be up. This I can promise them.

Yes! Hausas would have just been like Yoruba muslims today had it been Danfodio had not destroyed them. They would have been very tolerant and still hold on to their traditional values, customs, masquerades and festivals the way Yoruba muslims do.

Anyway, just to let you know that Hausa culture is not completely lost/wiped off.
There are 2-4 million Hausa Christians/pagans who are mostly centred in the deep rural areas of Zaria, Katsina & Kano and these ones still manage to hold on to the ancestral Hausa culture, traditions, festivals and even the traditional religion .... Although it is heavily and largely fading away and on the verge of extinction. It may not survive the next 25 years.

and you think El rufai is not doing his job in killing off these people you mentioned?

Nowenuse:


Yes, Hausa land has been illiterate and brainwashed by religion for centuries, the same way Black Sudanese people of Nubian ancestry claim they are Arabs today

Yes, someone is stopping the Hausa masses from gaining literacy and that is the minority % fulani mixed elite and religious class who control their society...

Why don't you tell us the correct stuff since you know it more .... Nairaland is available for the whole world to read and learn.

Lol you're mentally challenged dude. Nobody is stopping them but you're free to believe your dumb victim narrative. Thats what losers in your culture do when they can't effect change. Everthing is someone elses fault.

They're happily married fulanis. They've never expelled them out of the country. They voted in mass for a fulani president twice. The still have fulani traditional leaders. In your mind it because brain washing instead of them just agreeing with eachother.

If you want to learn pick up a history book. It's probably available at local library or university's library.

AfrokanGod:


The British empire burnt the Benin empire to ashes while also killing and looting its treasures, Go tell a Benin man he accepted Christianity on his own free will. Religion was an afterthought to the colonist, their first mission was to plunder the wealth of the colonised nation and they found out forcing their religion on their subject was one way to achieve their aim. King leopard came to congo under the guise to bringing religion to the savage congolease, he sought and got permission from the catholic church.

Nigerians had it better, south Americans where killed in their millions, the Congolese were also killed in their millions.

Christianity and Islam were spread by force, without force and subjugation how do you convince a man your god is better than is?

Read about the Spanish Inquisition, Read about the King leopards Colonization of congo, read about the Crusade.

especially what the Spanish conquistadors did in Peru.