adebayo201:

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Is that not why he's been paid?? Today's error was just avoidable and unnecessary. He created the tension and placed pressure on his team mates.

afrodoc2:

That was an obvious offside. Nigga was lying down in an offside position in the direct line of vision of the GK.

Elampiro was right. Some of una no know ball.

elampiro:


The image and what I saw from VAR show that DDG was going to dive but hesitated in anticipation of a deflection when the ball hits Sigurdson.

Overall, the rules are clear. Sidgurdson was too close to the ball. That alone is enough. His action also affected the decision of the goalkeeper.

Eruditor:


The ball was deflected to his own path it was not in his path when it left Lewin's foot.

CapitalCee:
Honestly, I know you people will say i talk too much about this issue, But, how can a GK earning 350k/ week will keep giving opponents head starts one too many times to cost us point.

Apart from today. The few i can remember are.

- Vs Same Everton when he misjudged a cross to let Lindelof score an own goal.

- Vs C.palace, we just equalised and few minutes remaining, he committed a howler to lose us the match at the death.

- Vs Watford, when he let a scoffed shot by Sarr.

He is 2nd behind Dubraska in errors leading to goal, how can we keep on putting up with this? The difference between making 4 and not making it are just fine margins, we lost top 4 to man city in 2016 on goal difference, that error vs palace that cost us 1 point, might just be difference. I love DDG very well but even when I try, i couldn't see him make jaw dropping saves, nowadays any shot in our post my mind fly, No team achieves anything with a GK who keep making errors. Lampard dropped a 70m keeper to play 40 year old Caballero, Klopp offloaded mignolet and Karius to win Champions league, Imagine is those 2 errors from Karius were prevented, Liverpool might have won the UCL instead of madrid, Imagine if Van der sar committed an error in our tensed final with Chelsea in Moscow. Barthez won the world cup came to United, after some errors fergie binned him for Tim Howard. 2 points, 1 points, 3 points dropped here and there due to errors or inability to keep out a routine shot, is costing us and will cost us dearly. Ole has make changes in the summer in the GK department.

Yes one can make mistakes, but its becoming a habit that for every 4 league or 5 league games he will drop a clanger. I can bet you that this will not be his last this season. For spain he knocked them out in Euros by allowing Chilienni to score, in the world cup same errors, play a normal shot and its a goal, no wonder he was dropped in spain. I can guarantee you that if either Kepa or DDG star for spain in the Euros they will not go far.

NB: i dont have any agenda against DDG he will go down as a legend probably, but he need to be dropped next season. He can stage a comeback but he mustn't be our undisputed number 1.

elampiro:



The Premier League have moved quickly to clarify why Everton's late goal against Manchester United was disallowed.

Dominic Calvert-Lewin put the ball in the back of the net via a deflection and for a brief moment thought he had won all three points for his side.


But the goal was chalked off due to Gylfi Sigurdsson's positioning. The playmaker had been wiped out in the build up and was lying on the turf in front of David de Gea . Sigurdsson moved his legs to let the ball go into the back of the net but it was deemed that he had directly impacted the United shot-stopper's ability to make a save.

The Premier League statement read: "In the 91st minute of Everton v Manchester United, Dominic Calvert-Lewin’s goal was disallowed following a VAR Review for an offside offence against Gylfi Sigurdsson

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/sport/premier-league-statement-explains-everton-21611578.amp

Eruditor:


Everybody knows that barring something extremely flagrant like a foot stamp or some cynical foul, the EPL referees never countermand any decisions that any of their own make during a game.

When the review was shown, VAR was checking for a touch from Sigurdsson. That is exactly what the replays kept checking for. We all saw it. All the angles started and stopped at checking if Gylfi made contact with the ball. He did not in any way.

This excuse by the EPL is utter nonsense especially when you know that they would have given a corner kick had that ball not gone into the net.

The only way Sigurdsson's position affects DDGs ability would be if Maguire had not touched the ball and it went towards Gylfi's path. That was not the case. Doubt it, bring the gif or a link showing the replays of that chance.

elampiro:


This one no concern rule. The ball was on his path while going into the net. That is the issue.

nitrogen:


Bros, rest na, what is your own sef?

CapitalCee:


He made error and made up for it Really? So in a Champions league final, Keepers should gift the opponents an early goal and then make up for it letter in the match? How about making no errors at all and protecting his teams lead with saves? Nna na wa for una oo, una can defendddd. Let it be the usual easy scapegoats, then Ed most make him no 1 on transfer list, but for DDG and co, we must find excuse, just like pool fans were heaping blames on Loveren for yesterday's trashing when all the goals clearly went through VVD

Eruditor:


It does. If the last touch comes from a United player, it cannot be offside.

patrickmuf:
A clear offside, surprised that Larride is on the other side. Maybe it's the frustration of watching us drop points that's the issue here.

At some point, I wanted Everton to score.

adebayo201:

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Is that not why he's been paid?? Today's error was just avoidable and unnecessary. He created the tension and placed pressure on his team mates.

Eruditor:


It does. If the last touch comes from a United player, it cannot be offside.

elampiro:


This is not the rule. Premier League have even clarified this thing you people are still arguing. It is simple sense from the rules. This is something I knew since 2015.

elampiro:


There was an interference that prevented the ball to be defended by the goalkeeper. The rule is tje rule.

DDG would have dived for it if not for interference.

Eruditor:


It is possible to be a United fan and still be objective.

A player on the floor cannot impair the vision of a standing keeper.

Which even makes it more frivolous when you realize that DDG was initially moving towards the ball at the trajectory that Lewin kicked it. Which means DDG saw the ball.

I agree that the ball deflected and caught him off guard. But who caused the ball to deflect? Maguire - DDGs own teammate. So it can never be offside as the player who was offside did not interfere with the play.

I rest my case but just like when CFC fans defended the robbery against Ajax only to cry wolf against United, this decision could go against United when you need it the most.

BikeMan:
Ball touch your player before going in and you still call it offside, how? Looks like it's not only medicine you don't know

elampiro:
Another former referee says it was a right call. And he says from 'this angle you can see DeGea trying to go for the ball but...'


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeyqeuTgrJ8

larride:


How can it be offside when the ball never touch him? He made Zero contact with ball. He knew he was in an offside position and as such moved his leg away when the ball was rolling to his direction.

larride:


How can it be offside when the ball never touch him? He made Zero contact with ball. He knew he was in an offside position and as such moved his leg away when the ball was rolling to his direction.

BenNash:
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Watch the video and stop relying on pictures. Degea made two steps to the right while that ball was on motion. Was about making the third step when the ball entered. No way he was going to save that. Even Ole said in his post match interview he wasn't sure Degea would be able to save that.

My own problem is with VAR's inconsistency. I'm happy we got a draw but I've got mixed feelings about this. We've been getting it good from VAR's inconsistency the past 2 weeks but we're still not in that top 4. I'm really hoping at the point VAR's inconsistency is against us, it wouldn't be too costly for us.

ChristineC:
let's not waste pages here please. I want to see actual game analysis.

elampiro:


VAR was right on this based on the rules.

Sugurdadon was too close to the ball. He was even in the direction of flow of the ball towards the goal and the goalkeeper was in goal.

His movement or being there affected the goalkeeper's decision. DeGea was going to dive for the ball but anticipating a deflection he moved to his right, I saw that clearly from one of the angles from VAR which the retired ref also said in the video above.

However, DeGea didn't have to be in a position to save the ball for the rules to apply Nevertheless, who says DeGea with his sharp reflexes would not have saved that ball because he has made more serious saves. DeGaa himself told Ole that Sigurdson in that position distracted him

Eruditor:


It is possible to be a United fan and still be objective.

A player on the floor cannot impair the vision of a standing keeper.

Which even makes it more frivolous when you realize that DDG was initially moving towards the ball at the trajectory that Lewin kicked it. Which means DDG saw the ball.

I agree that the ball deflected and caught him off guard. But who caused the ball to deflect? Maguire - DDGs own teammate. So it can never be offside as the player who was offside did not interfere with the play.

I rest my case but just like when CFC fans defended the robbery against Ajax only to cry wolf against United, this decision could go against United when you need it the most.

elampiro:


He interferred with the goalleeper's decision leading to the goal.

BikeMan:
Ball touch your player before going in and you still call it offside, how? Looks like it's not only medicine you don't know