kayfra:


And you are "Hebrew" Odion or do you go by your Nago version "Odiyan"?

Crazy folks

2prexios:


At least you have learned that cognates exist here, you have learnt something after all. What you never thought exist has become part of your lingo.

Go back to your own contribution and see confusion in one line of a borrowed idea, without tradition or native discovery on the job to back you up.

Odion-Obeji Ibini. Go back and study the stuff very well. There's still beautiful points loaded within the oriki. But you will not see it yet as an intellectually blind sort.

But when I unfold the meaning, it becomes another joke. You will continually have a joke and become a mediocre, because you are here to joke around my point.

Every light needs darkness to shine brighter.

You have no idea what history of the Yoruba is all about, not even the one you claim to be Historical is known to you. "Nago" exposes you as an impostor. Stop trying to be smart.

If a Yoruba would spot out anything nago, where did he learn it from? How do you import a foreign name to better identify yourself or a section that the name never covers?

1. Explain how Odiyan is nago for all to learn

2. Otherwise, tell us how the term Niger Congo came to be, quoting a paragraph where the phrase was first used, and the title of the book.

At least that should be easier enough to prove you know your subject matter.

RamessesIV:
This inferiority complex of negros,that they want to look for ways to tie themselves to the middle east cause of religion no wonder whites claim we weren't doing anything and all our achievements were done by Berber/arabs ���

kayfra:


Odion Kenobi. May the force be with you

macof:
serious inferiority complex.
To these folks, to strive to be anything but the "uncivilised African" is the aim. Just look at how they refer to African people and cultures as monkeys

And what other thing to be than those they have been indoctrinated through religion to believe are divinely superior
Deep down they consider the Yoruba in her African heritage to be inferior but remove the "African" and add the "Semitic" and they can feel better. The delusion is a coping mechanism
But let's not excuse this, it is regardless only a mind utterly lacking in intelligence that would shun evidence for imaginary nonsense

2prexios:
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1. Explain how Odiyan is nago for all to learn

2. Otherwise, tell us how the term Niger Congo came to be, quoting a paragraph where the phrase was first used, and the title of the book.

When you fail you act comical, when you are right in your assumptions, you act brutal.

Obalufon:
yes uncivilize cannibals monkeys like your forefathers, yoruba is diffrent from niger congo bantus monkey..we are not ibos ..Our history has it that your forefathers were breed of human and monkey ,,

2prexios:
I've never seen a clever fool of that negro sort thanks for keeping him where he truly belonged. The original Monkey of Serrengatti.

What wisdom is in coming online to claim Yoruba is one of the "uncivilized Africans" Who does that? This is called Freudian slip, where a man divulge his ulterior motives unaware.

What determine who is civilized and who is uncivilized? Is it not what can be gleaned from a certain culture? The Yoruba adage says "kiitan lara omoba komaku dansaki".

The meaning of dansaki is the token salute that denote title or identity. These impostors are tirelessly working to ensure you will make nothing sensible out of Yoruba tradition.

As a result, the man became an obstacle to gleaning anything meaningful from Yoruba culture for the ulterior motive. A man who will disproof a point should give better meaning, not whinnying.

Its now clear that claiming Yoruba is civilize is one of the original sin against this man. He is the only Yoruba who disdain Yoruba language or attempt to say Yoruba is civilize from inception.

He became Yoruba apapandodo to cover up and to work from within, but his ruse is that this guy cannot make a single sentence in Yoruba without fear of being caught.

How can an evolutionist hate monkey?

but here is a fellow who recently claimed man developed from east Africa and angry with connection with monkey? Do you have a different theory than evolution?

It seems our guy has no idea about the East African origin. If not, why should you feel bad being a dedcendant of monkey? AlreadyYou have no monument of history lived on trees.

As monkeys, the "uncivilized African" lived on trees, hence no sites of archeological interest to date your culture because it never was. Monkey cannot built cultural monuments like the Incas or Aztec.

Monkey lives on tree without a trace of civilization on ground. The "uncivilised African" is incapable of such, so he walked the plain and bush half naked.

But Yoruba case is different, though equally disadvantaged by isolation but the Yoruba dated itself by the Oranyan staff as an obelisk dating back to "the stone age".


The coping mechanism of hypnosis and internal confusion is to fight anyone who intended to make us see an issue plainly explained as yoruba tradition shows.

The coping mechanism for lack of intelligence is striving to be invincible.

No transparent origin to validate the claims of this negro being Yoruba, ask him question in that needs him to shed light on his origin, he shouts "obsession!"

No availability of the citation to proof guys had access to the holy Grail of the Niger Congo, we just need to agree because that's the truth.

Here is a fool who needed 4 mighty scholars to proof Bible wrong earlier. His dead brain can't do the work, but he want us to take his claims as "authority speaking".

Even the Bible he hired authority to proof wrong spoke of cities sitting upon their mounds, and a fool here is telling the world African history is built on linguistic theory he had never understood.

macof:


Mad man. Just look at the stupid rant of a sanile low life
Doesn't even make any sense

2prexios:


Go back and read very well, this time withouth lunacy playing in your head.

:,D

cite the original paper where Niger Congo was first postulated as a theory.

I know how impulsive you are.

macof:

Cite it for what purpose? To go another round of back and forth
How many papers have I cited that you call the scholars names? how many times have I myself posted on historical linguistics without anything entering your watery brain? You are clinical incapable of reasoning logically or learning anything in this field of study
Till today you don't understand a thing about anthropology and linguistics or any other relevant related discipline
Such an utterly useless and pathetic thing

macof:
Although this wasn't directed to me I have to say if you want to learn you should do well to question your teacher. "teacher don't teach me nonsense" comes to mind. The person who has the facts is the person who is right no matter what you believe or what opinions you want to religiously and sentimentally hold on to

The complexity of Yoruba history is only due to 3 factors - 1. Secrecy and Mysticism which you can only overhaul(if you think it is a problem) when you are deeply in the tradition. The importance of initiation and active practice cannot be overestimated when it comes to Yoruba 2. Yoruba history is not Yorubaland-based or Town-based but first of all Family-based. Each family has their own history and traditions that revolve around certain events in the history of that family. Even what you might think are town festivals are mostly just certain families reenacting an historical event that is specific to that those families not the entire town.

3. The duality of most Yoruba figures. Most characters in yoruba stories have historical and spiritual aspects, the spiritual aspects are myths that guide the Yoruba religion. This can be a total mess to a person who doesnt know better, that is why you hear of Oduduwa creating the earth as he came down from Orun, yet that name is also given to the first Olufe (Ooni), take it as one side inspiring the other, sometimes we don't even know which inspired which...although in the case of Oduduwa the two sides seem to have inspired eachother, which the name Oduduwa coming from an older spiritual myth but the myth itself changing to incorporate elements of the historical events eg. Oduduwa the man, came down a chain from Ora hill, Obatala lost the war mostly due to his drinking problems
So its complexity has is not due to migration or intermingling in the sense that you think.

The seemingly different views of the Olugbo and Ooni's palace are actually both right, same way it might seem as if the families of Obatala and Obameri are telling different stories, they are saying the same thing just from different perspectives

2prexios:


Has there been a crucial fact from your end till date to establish you as knowledgeable on this topic? If so, post a link to the same here.



How does this aspects of Yoruba history blend in to your Niger Congo claims? Is this a Yoruba affair that's not extended to others?

Can you justerpose this with another culture in the same linguistic family as an aspect of how anthropology linguistic works?


This is your entry point on this thread, it shows you are clueless about Yoruba tradition.

Can you cite the original traditional source where your claims here were taken from?

macof:


Will you just keep quiet and stop making more fool of yourself. What a shameless restless buffoon Jeez!

macof:


Deal with the post if you have anything to say.. Those are valid examples of languages inheriting words and elements from the original language of its native speakers but of course as it doesn't lead to Hebrews you must attack it.. If I had said Osun is Esther oh woah you would have gotten an erection.
Rather than try to look for my blind spot show how that post is wrong if you think it is
Dullard

2prexios:


The post exposes you as a stranger to the core of your argument, which is Niger Congo. You have earlier claimed that the Yoruba shared vocabulary and semantics with the Fon and the Igbo.

So, why not draw instance from such to explain the attributes of the thesis you are making? I believe such will shed some light to our understanding of how linguistics works especially on the indeginous languages.

I noticed that you are an "assimilative plagiarizer":

You read stuff online and edit it to your taste, posting it as though you are the original thinker.

The weakness of this trick is that you know more of notable examples drawn to butress the points made elsewhere, but incapable of drawing plausible examples from your own case study.

A man who makes your kind of claims should be capable of substantiating them instead of swinging from outburst to outburst.

macof:

Mad man go and sleep and stop obsessing over me. I have given you enough details and tried to teach you enough but you are incapable of learning
Stop mentioning me every week. Get help and get a life

macof:
that is not how historical linguistics work

Pidgin English can't be Niger-Congo because despite local words in pidgin, it's diachronic nature is simply not related to other Niger - Congo languages.
What you mean might be that pidgin English gets dropped after greatly influencing a Niger-Congo language

Take the Turkish language for example, it is a turkic language that the Turks adopted after a possible switch from a Farsi related language... Hence cognate words are found in Farsi and Turkish... A relic from the time before the Turks spoke Turkish
Another example is Norman French which when the Vikings switched to French retained some Norse words


So if Yoruba people ever spoke Egyptian/Kemetic, we must have switched to a different language
Same applies to those who think Yoruba language is semitic

Of course in all of this there's no evidence that Yoruba language even has any Kemitic or Semitic inheritance

macof:


Nobody can know this without evidence oga
Lets not water down what it means to "know" something
If you THINK Yoruba people ever spoke Kemitic Egyptian, that one is your own o but there's no evidence of that and I think study of yoruba language has gone so far that if Egyptian influence was over 50% like you say it should be obvious and very easy to highlight

And what you call Egyptian is not what he calls Hebrew. Both languages are two distinct languages not even in the same immediate language family

macof:


@lawani
This is not my business as both Egyptian and semitic origin of yoruba holds no water but its interesting how every single one of you who are adamant on a "into West Africa migration of yoruba language and civilization" don't agree on a single point
Everyone is so dependent on their imagination

@olu
Every single question you have here is valid as scrutiny against lawani yet similar questions you cannot answer for your claim on Hebrews

How is it that you become a good critic and wish to be analytic when it came to Egypt but all that drops when it comes to Hebrew
@nlposter, kayfra are you seeing this?

2prexios:


You can see how quick this response is, it's a proof of your decoy and fundermental deception. What take you so long?



Would you have quoted post before this one? No. It's your forbidden post. "Conscience is an open wound, only the truth can heal it".

Back to the topic: you pretend to be proficient in foreign languages and their connections, without vocabulary or examples drawn to butress your point.

That should be secondary (if necessary) to proof your point and establish your claims. You are talking about Niger Congo, and that should come first.

However, the refurbished "tokunbo points" from the Vikings, Norse, French and Turk is all you have before directing discussion in that path.

Why not drawn from the work of your peers or give examples from the core of your argument to further our knowledge?

macof:

Smh. This guy is such an idiott. What kind of uselessness is this? This mad man you have been obsessively going through all my old posts, so keep doing that, there you will find my points on the topic, points which you have seen but didn't enter your head. I am not repeating myself and doing another back and forth
How can someone be this proud to be useless. Damn! What a waste

2prexios:


Bro, save your outburst.

You need to proof your mettle no matter how long. Be confident in your good works, no one can mosque you in that.

Do you now have the oriki Eletu odibo? Every of your claims have to be substantiated. We are working from home now.

macof:
you have no point. You are not capable of learning, you don't comprehend anything.. Not even the simplest of analogies and examples
Your mentions are just you thinking you are embarrassing me with attacks, you are so happy but in actuality you are just exposing how simple information passes your head
You are a waste

macof:
you have no point. You are not capable of learning, you don't comprehend anything.. Not even the simplest of analogies and examples
Your mentions are just you thinking you are embarrassing me with attacks, you are so happy but in actuality you are just exposing how simple information passes your head
You are a waste

2prexios:


Brother,

You are a good example of information without knowledge. What you have is information. You only need the input of someone else and viola, you bend it to suit your "information".

A good example is the oriki eletu odibo. Can you share it? Stop acting as though the other person is having a "mindshare" with you. You are clever by half.

Every claim you made does not autimatically translate to knowledge. Not until you substantiate the same with convincing evidence of knowledge.

For instance, I asked you to interpret your Yoruba "erin fee pami" back to English, you haven't done that till date. Yet you claimed to be more Yoruba than my father.

The claim is the information, your validation of such claim is knowledge. Any dick and Harry can put information to best use, but knowledge belonged to pundits.

An informed person depend on a reliable source, but a knowledgeable person is the source of a given information. Can you translate your own sentence to Yoruba?


That's the difference between information and knowledge.

kayfra:


Calling you by the obvious adjective isn't a sign of concern. It only further reinforces your incapacity and sense of inferiority