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Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 3:32pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: Mr Dullard! God's will is for each of us to become like Jesus in thoughts, words and actions. Once you're able to do just that, you're above any WRITTEN laws whether in heaven or on earth! You know why? Because you've scored excellent in all what God required of any human! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 3:34pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: There are abundance of testimonies of people been healed of Civic-19 and many other incurable diseases. Stop diverting the topic. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 3:48pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: See confused Man. Are you so dumb that you cannot understand that to be like Jesus, in thoughts,words and action is to obey the 10commandments? “That the world may know that I love the Father, and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so I do” ( John 14:31) |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 3:51pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: Since the law was done away with, why is it been quoted here by the apostles in the new testatment as a command required of us? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 3:54pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: You're the one lying and diverting here! We're discussing how people can become holy from God's standpoint, you were saying healing is a sign today. That's why i said you should go out there and lay your hands on Covid19 patients to cure them! Instead of facing the reality you want to hide behind a finger! There is no laying of hands to cure Covid19 anywhere Sir, otherwise such a place will become war zone if their Government try to prevent patients from all over the earth from reaching the man of God that's performing such wonders! So stop lying, it's not taking you anywhere! 1 Like |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 3:58pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: Jesus is a PERFECT son of God who doesn't need lengthy rules Sir! Just as it was in the beginning, God's commandments given to Jesus to hands over to humans are those four that the Holy Spirit revealed to the first century Christians! @ Act 15:26-29! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 4:01pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: No Apostle of Jesus will quote any law for Christians, they can only referred to it so that a Christian could see the principle behind those four PERFECT rules! @ Act 15:36-29 |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 4:18pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
@ blueAgent. If you're not a deceiver who have also been thoroughly deceived by Satan your lying Father, you've been arguing profusely all these while with Churchgoers like yourself claiming they're wrong. Now you want to give the same people the credit for their fake stage-managed miracles! Whereas your so called Sabbath Church never declared performing any miracles to the world be it real or fake! Are you now shifting the post by saying all the arguments you've been engaging Shadeyinka all these while is hypocritical? Why haven't you succumb to what he's been telling you? at least Shadeyinka claims he has been expelling demons, or have you also been able to expel demons in any way secretly? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 4:26pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: What a meaningless thoughtless post. What's your argument that miracles do not happen in my Church or what? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 4:30pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: Confused Man. Apostles James, Paul, Peter, and even the master himself Jesus quoted the law as means to obtain eternal life. James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 2:9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. Luke 18:18 And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 4:38pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: Chai! See mumu o! Now you're in my trap Sir! We don't need arguments anymore! Your Church perform miracles, and it's the Church God approves because you're keeping the Sabbath, others will go to hell for disobeying God's law. Please tell your church to go now and start curing Covid19 patients, after all they have the power to do that! LIAR! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 4:44pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: As usual all you do is pick one verse out of context and use it to promote your false doctrine. From Acts15:1 anyone who is honest would admit that the argument there was over the gentiles been forced to circumcise and obey the Mosiac laws by the Jews, of which Paul and other Apostles told them to allow the people to worship with them and not burden them with moisac laws. It was important that the people desist from those things mentioned in Acts15:26. In Conclusion. Paul nor any of the apostles ever gave any indication that this, was now our new law by which we will be judged neither did they abolish the 10commandments as apostle James later quoted that we should obey the whole law. If we are to assume that this requirements replaced the 10commandment than we will also believe that killing, lairing, dis honoring ones parents and covetousness are no longer sins because they were not mentioned there. Secondly to prove that its was the Mosaic law they were referring to, there are evidence to show that the gentiles worshipped with the Jews on the sabbath day. Acts 13:42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath. Acts 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: 15:25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 15:26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 4:46pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: You're a mumungus my friend! Is it not the person who came to ask Jesus what to do that he was redirecting to the law? If you're a professor teaching willing students and someone now walks up to you instead of to join the students, he feels like asking you "what is the meaning of all these your lengthy public discuss" won't you REDIRECT such a person to go back and start school from kindergarten? After spending some time there he will surely realize the purpose of those sitting around you, humbly listening! Jesus told the man to go and keep the laws because there's no way he will do that without coming back after realizing that a wonderful counselor will still come to teach people the PERFECT rules! You're just an hypocritical argumentator, that's all! But know one thing that your Sabbath Church is just another deceit from Satan, it will only lead you to death and eternal condemnation! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 4:49pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: Why are you lairing like a kid? You were the first to ask me for proof of God's approval of sabbath keeping. And I responded with miracle wroth by God and I also quoted Jesus statement that signs and miracles will fellow those who obey him. Its obvious you have ran out of facts and argument, your narrative is failing you. Except Jesus no man on Earth, can heal the entire World of Covid-19. stop looking for a way to escape your false teaching and my exposure of them. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 4:50pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: Here is your question on evidence of the sabbath. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 4:52pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: See explanation. Your theory is laughable. Which rules are the perfect rules that are more perfect than the law of God? Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 4:53pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: Where did I say Sunday worshippers will go to Hell? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 7:09pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: You're a shameless liar Sir! You said Jesus promised that you will lay your hands on the sick and they shall be well, after wining you said your people has been curing Covid19 patients, now you're saying there are special cases you can't handle, whereas you people always claim Jesus said you will perform greater works than Jesus himself, so in what way are you people going to do that nah if you can't cure Covid19 with laying of your filthy hands? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 7:18pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: Where you're dribbling yourself is failure to acknowledge that God's law was just one in the beginning, it became 600+ when presenting himself to stifnecked Israelites, it reduced to four in the first century, and it will still return to just one when we get back to Paradise! It's the same person who presented the first single law that's been dealing with humans according to our circumstances. So his law is his law, but if you don't understand you will detail from the path of life. The Jews kept arguing profusely just as you're doing now all because they felt the standards Moses gave their forefathers mustn't change,that's how they rejected Jesus! You're now following the same path! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 7:21pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: OK so why arguing like a madman since over your insignificant Sabbath keeping? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 7:57pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: It matters , but for only those who ignorantly disobeyed it, will God have mercy on. The rest would have questions to answer. Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 7:58pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: You are too old for pranks, always looking for the easy way out, how many of the 600laws did God write with his finger? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 8:00pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
Maximus69: At your age you are accusing people of what they did not. If what I said is not what Jesus said, and meant disprove it. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 8:14pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: So in a nutshell, is it compulsory to keep the Sabbath law or not? And where will those who totally refuse to abide by it will end, heaven or hell? |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 8:22pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: Moses asked God "perhaps they did not agree with all these laws" because there is no god known in any part of the earth even till today demanding obedience to such numerous laws! That's why God told Moses, i will write some with my own fingers so that when you show them, they will know that i gave you all the laws! So God purposely wrote those laws to make those stifnecked people believe the remaining Moses will read to them in his own writing! All the laws are EQUAL before God, if you break any, you've broken all! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 8:34pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
blueAgent: Jesus was talking to his Jewish followers alone on that matter, because what they are about to start teaching people totally contradicts what the Israelites knew before! There must be a sign that a new covenant has just been sealed. Peter publicly declared this to his Jewish people at Pentecost that what they're seeing is in fulfilment of what the prophets have foretold will mark the sealing of the new covenant! Act 2:16-21 compare to Joel 2:28 But the gentiles who never had any former dealings with the God of Abraham by means of a covenant need no miraculous signs! That's why Jesus kept refusing to perform miracles for gentiles saying "IT'S FOR THE ISRAELITES NOT FOR GENTILES!" Mark 7:36-30 So when he was talking about the SIGNS that will follow the Christians, he wasn't saying it will exceed their land because that's where they needed a confirmation that a new covenant has just been sealed! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 8:50pm On Mar 28, 2020 |
@buleAgent I hate arguments Sir! If you're arguing what is not, i will leave you with your cohorts claiming Christians, so that you guys can continue dribbling yourselves. But when you quote me as if you know better, i will expose your stupidity and ignorance before everyone! I've told all of you the plain truth as i always tell anyone, unlike you who can't frankly say what will happen to those who refuse to be members of your Church, i will tell you confidently and with all seriousness that IF YOU'RE NOT ONE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, YOU CAN NEVER BE SAVED Go and tell all your friends, Pastors, and Church members. That's what Jehovah's Witnesses believe, so next time you see us it's either you are prepared to join us or forget about us. Our God is NOT the same as yours, so it's better if you refer to us as Demonic, Cult or any other thing that comes to your mind. But never think we are worshiping the same God with any of your Churches, WE STAND OUT! |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 7:46am On Mar 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: Is it 100% compulsory not to commit adultery,killing,stealing ,coverting? They would end up Iin Hell fire. Thats God's word not my. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 7:48am On Mar 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: See story telling, You know God's thoughts and mind? It took God 6days to create the Earth, I guess it would not had taken him up to 1hr to write all the 600 laws on a stone or book as Moses did. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by blueAgent(m): 7:51am On Mar 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: Pure Crap. Jesus is referring to all his followers weather gentiles or Jews, weather present or future. Miracles are taking place everyday in peoples lives. am a witness, you would not know it because your cult does not have the presence of God. |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 7:53am On Mar 29, 2020 |
blueAgent: You're now turning the table ooooooo! My question is about Sabbath not those ones Sir! A Christian who LOVE JEHOVAH will always do things that will not bring REPROACH to his holy name. None of those things you mentioned bring praise to our Creator, so one who LOVE JEHOVAH will always try to abstain from all that! But your pigheaded Sabbatical rule of a special day is what i'm asking you NOT those ones that God's holy spirit have helped us to map out as no go area! Act 15:26-29 |
Re: What Goes To Heaven Or Hell, Is It Body,soul Or Spirit. by Nobody: 7:58am On Mar 29, 2020 |
blueAgent: What we are saying is ALL GOD'S LAWS PRESENTED TO THE ISRAELITES ARE EQUAL, IF YOU BREAK ONE YOU'VE BROKEN ALL! So are we still under obligation to mount all those laws in our brains? That's the question Sir! |
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