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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Openbusiness: 12:05pm On Apr 05, 2020
Great post OP. Unlike the rubbish Seun posted yesterday grin

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by InvertedHammer: 12:05pm On Apr 05, 2020
mrphysics:
I went through this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5774444/fact-check-coronavirus-caused-5g-technology by aminulive and while I appreciate what he has done, I think enough needs to be done to drive that point clearer to the Nigerian audience. However, my fear is that when scientist and health practitioners say something, most people, especially Nigerians will accept the ones coming from religious leaders.

I will try my best to explain in details what you should know about radiations.

Classifications of Radiations
They are two basic classification of radiations, they include:
1 Particle radiation: This contains charged and neutral particles
2. Electromagnetic radiation: (Photon flow. 5G belongs to this group.)

We can classify radiations according to their biological effects on matter, here, we have two types of radiations: Ionizing and non ionizing radiations.

You must have heard these two in recent times, so what is ionizing and non ionizing radiations?
a. Ionizing radiations: This means radiation have enough energy to eject one electron from the atom of the crossed material.
b. Non ionizing radiation: Particle energy is not enough to eject one electron from the atom, therefore it is said to have lower ionizing potential.

Great, let's advance further. The next question is, at what energy is a particle considered as ionizing? I won't waste much time here, so let's concentrate on 5G and their corresponding energy.

I am a graduate student of Nuclear Engineering. And in one of our course called Interaction of Radiation with Matter, we discussed everything about ionizing and non ionizing radiation.
Therefore, for tissues/matter consisting of Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen (Which the human body fall under), radiations are considered as ionizing radiation if their energy is greater >> 12.4 eV (electron volt). The wavelength of such photon is 0.1um (micro meter). .

Using the relationship between energy and frequency, E = hf, I made a quick calculation and realized that the wavelength of such radiation must be 100nm (0.1um) and the frequency (Hz) is to the order of 3 x 10^15 hertz. We do know that the frequency of a 5G network (5 Giga hertz - 95 Giga hertz) and discovered that it's frequency is of the order of 10^9 hertz. which is million times lower than what is considered as ionizing. It therefore means that photons from a 5G network can never ionize the human body.

We know all these because to excite the electron from the ground state of a hydrogen atom to the first excitation state, you must have an energy of 13.6 eV. If you check the energy of a 5G wave, you will see it is approximately 0.00002 eV which is a million times lower than the fundamental energy of ionizing radiation.

Some persons have also linked it to cause cancer and the rest, this is not true. Of course there are two effects of radiations which is stochastic and deterministic effect. Deterministic effect occurs instantly and severity increases with radiation dose where as stochastic effect does not occur instantly but will take time to manifest.

Let me point out that, those who survived the Hiroshima and Nagazaki bomb blast and were followed in a study called Cohort Study, out of over 100k followed person, only about 2% died of cancer related cases which manifested about 50 years after the incident. Remember these people took many grays of highly ionizing radiations.

Whenever you take flight from a particular place to another, you have absorbed more ionizing radiations that someone living 20km from a nuclear power plant. When you take 1-9 cigarettes a day, you take same risk as someone who took a dose of 3.4Sv from a bomb blast.

To end it, 5G network is not an ionizing radiation, and poses no harm to the body, well not anyone that has been experience now. It will take many years for one to experience any such effect (Which to me is not possible). Some of us have done X-rays, if only you knew you stood against an ionizing radiation, and yet still healthy, you won't be talking about 5G network.

The words of MrPhysics grin grin grin
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Many years ago, studies showed that asbestos posed no threat to humans just as cigarette smoking was cool to the core. The earth was flat. Earth was the only planet. The condiments used by fast food joints were non-carcinogenic.

Today we know better. Science is continually evolving. Researches are still on-going. It is always better to err on the side of caution. Don't rule out anything wholly because you read a few textbooks and journals.

\

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by magicfingers009: 12:05pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

No meaning point found in this comment. You're the one exposing your ignorance cos one religious leaders created a hoax in his head.

you are talking in the rubbish, you are talking in the nansense

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by StaffofOrayan(m): 12:05pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Nairalandmonika: 12:05pm On Apr 05, 2020
kkins25:

everybody is fascinated at the birth of 5g, it is only nigeria that people think it is the devils handwork. my brother; sometimes i feel like in my previous life i was a bad person thats why i was sent to the slums of naija to receive discipline
Lol, who knows, Nigeria could be the hell this religious people are talking about, and we Nigeria citizens were probably sinner's in our previous life.
The suffer for this country to much. In the mist of all these suffering, we are now packed with illiterates and religious fanatics.

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Gabbriell: 12:06pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

Don't mind them. Just know that common sense isn't that common.

Mr A can read a whole textbook and gain nothing. Mr B can read just one page of thesame book and gain much more.

They said an "Artificial intelligence (AI) has been integrated into 5G network that is making people sick". He is here talking about radio waves grin

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Debaiz: 12:07pm On Apr 05, 2020
mrphysics:

The words of MrPhysics grin grin grin

My question is this,

They said microwave heats food at 2.5MHtz and the 5G network emits 95Ghtz some say it can reach 300Ghtz.


Can’t we all be fried with it?

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Failure44: 12:07pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.
A GRADUATE IN NUCLEAR PHYSICS is telling you something and an illterate like you that probably studied book keeping or English is saying another thing.

angry undecided

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Nobody: 12:07pm On Apr 05, 2020
ElvisPresley:
illiterates everywhere...Gullible mofos.

They believe everything they hear hook, line and sinker.

5 G network is the best thing that can ever happen to communication technology.


How long have you been using it know to know all these sir?

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Nickshrapnel: 12:08pm On Apr 05, 2020
How some people are saying 5G is the cause of these deaths still amaze me, I asked for proof from some people here, they said I’ve been brainwashed and stupid. Just to explain to me how 5G and Coronavirus relates o they can’t


Watch and get educated
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-mZoVBpoEu/?igshid=15g5v02yinaii

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Nobody: 12:08pm On Apr 05, 2020
Rittysylvia:





My network bar goes blank whenever I put it on 4g.. I have never enjoyed 4g since 5he beginning in my area.. only God knows how 5g go come be
4g can't work on java phone na grin

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Failure44: 12:08pm On Apr 05, 2020
mako007:
Must we use 5g? If the populace don't feel safe using it, irrespective of being correct or not I think it's best for it to be discontinued for a while till the world heals then we can start trials and see. Haba!
I'm sure this was how your great grand father was protesting in support of the killing of twins that the "populace don't feel safe around twins"
Ewu

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by OhiOfIhima: 12:09pm On Apr 05, 2020
smeag0l:
Thanks for the nice piece, mr physics. Indeed, 5G emissions are just radio waves that lie on the far left of the electromagnetic spectrum while the X-rays and gamma rays are on the far right cos of their higher frequencies and ionization potential. A wave really has to be radioactive to be harmful to humans and even at that, the harm isnt immediate. The conspiracy theory is just unfounded.

Well said, not even all d radioactives, only gamma Ray has d enough ionization energy to penetrate d body system of a human being..

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Nigeriabiafra80: 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
mrphysics:
I went through this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5774444/fact-check-coronavirus-caused-5g-technology by aminulive and while I appreciate what he has done, I think enough needs to be done to drive that point clearer to the Nigerian audience. However, my fear is that when scientist and health practitioners say something, most people, especially Nigerians will accept the ones coming from religious leaders.

I will try my best to explain in details what you should know about radiations.

Classifications of Radiations
They are two basic classification of radiations, they include:
1 Particle radiation: This contains charged and neutral particles
2. Electromagnetic radiation: (Photon flow. 5G belongs to this group.)

We can classify radiations according to their biological effects on matter, here, we have two types of radiations: Ionizing and non ionizing radiations.

You must have heard these two in recent times, so what is ionizing and non ionizing radiations?
a. Ionizing radiations: This means radiation have enough energy to eject one electron from the atom of the crossed material.
b. Non ionizing radiation: Particle energy is not enough to eject one electron from the atom, therefore it is said to have lower ionizing potential.

Great, let's advance further. The next question is, at what energy is a particle considered as ionizing? I won't waste much time here, so let's concentrate on 5G and their corresponding energy.

I am a graduate student of Nuclear Engineering. And in one of our course called Interaction of Radiation with Matter, we discussed everything about ionizing and non ionizing radiation.
Therefore, for tissues/matter consisting of Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen (Which the human body fall under), radiations are considered as ionizing radiation if their energy is greater >> 12.4 eV (electron volt). The wavelength of such photon is 0.1um (micro meter). .

Using the relationship between energy and frequency, E = hf, I made a quick calculation and realized that the wavelength of such radiation must be 100nm (0.1um) and the frequency (Hz) is to the order of 3 x 10^15 hertz. We do know that the frequency of a 5G network (5 Giga hertz - 95 Giga hertz) and discovered that it's frequency is of the order of 10^9 hertz. which is million times lower than what is considered as ionizing. It therefore means that photons from a 5G network can never ionize the human body.

We know all these because to excite the electron from the ground state of a hydrogen atom to the first excitation state, you must have an energy of 13.6 eV. If you check the energy of a 5G wave, you will see it is approximately 0.00002 eV which is a million times lower than the fundamental energy of ionizing radiation.

Some persons have also linked it to cause cancer and the rest, this is not true. Of course there are two effects of radiations which is stochastic and deterministic effect. Deterministic effect occurs instantly and severity increases with radiation dose where as stochastic effect does not occur instantly but will take time to manifest.

Let me point out that, those who survived the Hiroshima and Nagazaki bomb blast and were followed in a study called Cohort Study, out of over 100k followed person, only about 2% died of cancer related cases which manifested about 50 years after the incident. Remember these people took many grays of highly ionizing radiations.

Whenever you take flight from a particular place to another, you have absorbed more ionizing radiations that someone living 20km from a nuclear power plant. When you take 1-9 cigarettes a day, you take same risk as someone who took a dose of 3.4Sv from a bomb blast.

To end it, 5G network is not an ionizing radiation, and poses no harm to the body, well not anyone that has been experience now. It will take many years for one to experience any such effect (Which to me is not possible). Some of us have done X-rays, if only you knew you stood against an ionizing radiation, and yet still healthy, you won't be talking about 5G network.

The words of MrPhysics grin grin grin
5G uses 24^90hertz
Not 10^15hertz
Abeg go back
And make ur research
5G is very harmful

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Olamigenius(m): 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
5G go suck MB rhn

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Dalby(m): 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
mrphysics:
I went through this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5774444/fact-check-coronavirus-caused-5g-technology by aminulive and while I appreciate what he has done, I think enough needs to be done to drive that point clearer to the Nigerian audience. However, my fear is that when scientist and health practitioners say something, most people, especially Nigerians will accept the ones coming from religious leaders.

I will try my best to explain in details what you should know about radiations.

Classifications of Radiations
They are two basic classification of radiations, they include:
1 Particle radiation: This contains charged and neutral particles
2. Electromagnetic radiation: (Photon flow. 5G belongs to this group.)

We can classify radiations according to their biological effects on matter, here, we have two types of radiations: Ionizing and non ionizing radiations.

You must have heard these two in recent times, so what is ionizing and non ionizing radiations?
a. Ionizing radiations: This means radiation have enough energy to eject one electron from the atom of the crossed material.
b. Non ionizing radiation: Particle energy is not enough to eject one electron from the atom, therefore it is said to have lower ionizing potential.

Great, let's advance further. The next question is, at what energy is a particle considered as ionizing? I won't waste much time here, so let's concentrate on 5G and their corresponding energy.

I am a graduate student of Nuclear Engineering. And in one of our course called Interaction of Radiation with Matter, we discussed everything about ionizing and non ionizing radiation.
Therefore, for tissues/matter consisting of Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen (Which the human body fall under), radiations are considered as ionizing radiation if their energy is greater >> 12.4 eV (electron volt). The wavelength of such photon is 0.1um (micro meter). .

Using the relationship between energy and frequency, E = hf, I made a quick calculation and realized that the wavelength of such radiation must be 100nm (0.1um) and the frequency (Hz) is to the order of 3 x 10^15 hertz. We do know that the frequency of a 5G network (5 Giga hertz - 95 Giga hertz) and discovered that it's frequency is of the order of 10^9 hertz. which is million times lower than what is considered as ionizing. It therefore means that photons from a 5G network can never ionize the human body.

We know all these because to excite the electron from the ground state of a hydrogen atom to the first excitation state, you must have an energy of 13.6 eV. If you check the energy of a 5G wave, you will see it is approximately 0.00002 eV which is a million times lower than the fundamental energy of ionizing radiation.

Some persons have also linked it to cause cancer and the rest, this is not true. Of course there are two effects of radiations which is stochastic and deterministic effect. Deterministic effect occurs instantly and severity increases with radiation dose where as stochastic effect does not occur instantly but will take time to manifest.

Let me point out that, those who survived the Hiroshima and Nagazaki bomb blast and were followed in a study called Cohort Study, out of over 100k followed person, only about 2% died of cancer related cases which manifested about 50 years after the incident. Remember these people took many grays of highly ionizing radiations.

Whenever you take flight from a particular place to another, you have absorbed more ionizing radiations that someone living 20km from a nuclear power plant. When you take 1-9 cigarettes a day, you take same risk as someone who took a dose of 3.4Sv from a bomb blast.

To end it, 5G network is not an ionizing radiation, and poses no harm to the body, well not anyone that has been experience now. It will take many years for one to experience any such effect (Which to me is not possible). Some of us have done X-rays, if only you knew you stood against an ionizing radiation, and yet still healthy, you won't be talking about 5G network.

The words of MrPhysics grin grin grin

Find a way to send it to the Home alone senator Dino Malaye, cos he is on the bandwagon of misinformation... Him and Pastor Chris passing misinformation to the general purpulace...Analogous to a mechanic describing on social media how to carryout brain surgery

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by ThothHermes: 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
Nigeriabiafra80:

Are you the inventor of 5G
Who told 5G is 10^9hertz
And you can't know the wavelength if you are not the inventor,
Just like you can't calculate the exact power being generated from a particular engine
If you're not the inventor
Lol. The same way people believe their pastors is the same way he believes what he read in a textbook or an article, yet he's taking the high ground. cheesy

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by hotwax: 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

Mr Man, his post is out of scope.

Electromagnetic weapons work with Earth electromagnetic field and human inner electric current. It has nothing to do with ionization.

It's purely tunning issues...don't mind him and his fellows

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Failure44: 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
Gabbriell:


Don't mind them. Just know that common sense isn't that common.

Mr A can read a whole textbook and gain nothing. Mr B can read just one page of thesame book and gain much more.

They said an "Artificial intelligence (AI) has been integrated into 5G network that is making people sick". He is here talking about radio waves grin
Look at this Stark illterate challenging a graduate of nuclear physics.
I laugh embarassed

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by 989900: 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
iomoge2:
my question is? What exactly has been killing living things in the areas the 5G is just launched? I have a video where birds are falling and dieing and in the video you could see a newly installed n launched 5G mast.

China for one, we saw there were two types of death during the corona virus saga. That is some people, fall, struggle and die of lack of oxygen (suffocation) while d others must be hospital related.

What I learnt is that the initial launching kills via suffocation. After a while the whole radiation would calm down n the falling and dying would stop.

I am not countering all you wrote cos it's your field. But remember you were taught what they wanted to teach you. If the Chinese themselves are destroying the towers, guess they know what they are doing.

Also note that I didn't mention Corona virus death to being linked with 5G death. Corona virus is a cover up. And no, I didn't get this from religious leaders.

The video was before 5G launch . . . everyone has Google; I wonder why they don't want to use it!

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by maasoap(m): 12:10pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

People like you are simply a lost cause. No matter how reasonable and logical someone sounds, it can never move you an inch or get you to drop all these crappy beliefs. May be you should use your precious time to weep for yourself

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Nobody: 12:11pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

Why don't you get off the Internet and live in a remote village. All these fking idiots who take advantage of technology to spread idiotic conspiracy theories about the same technology. Go and live like your great grandfathers, in a hunter gatherer lifestyle in a mud hut with firewood for heat and light . Leave us to this killer technology.

Nonsense and fools empowered by technology they knock

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by molybdenum0012: 12:12pm On Apr 05, 2020
mrphysics:
I went through this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5774444/fact-check-coronavirus-caused-5g-technology by aminulive and while I appreciate what he has done, I think enough needs to be done to drive that point clearer to the Nigerian audience. However, my fear is that when scientist and health practitioners say something, most people, especially Nigerians will accept the ones coming from religious leaders.

I will try my best to explain in details what you should know about radiations.

Classifications of Radiations
They are two basic classification of radiations, they include:
1 Particle radiation: This contains charged and neutral particles
2. Electromagnetic radiation: (Photon flow. 5G belongs to this group.)

We can classify radiations according to their biological effects on matter, here, we have two types of radiations: Ionizing and non ionizing radiations.

You must have heard these two in recent times, so what is ionizing and non ionizing radiations?
a. Ionizing radiations: This means radiation have enough energy to eject one electron from the atom of the crossed material.
b. Non ionizing radiation: Particle energy is not enough to eject one electron from the atom, therefore it is said to have lower ionizing potential.

Great, let's advance further. The next question is, at what energy is a particle considered as ionizing? I won't waste much time here, so let's concentrate on 5G and their corresponding energy.

I am a graduate student of Nuclear Engineering. And in one of our course called Interaction of Radiation with Matter, we discussed everything about ionizing and non ionizing radiation.
Therefore, for tissues/matter consisting of Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen (Which the human body fall under), radiations are considered as ionizing radiation if their energy is greater >> 12.4 eV (electron volt). The wavelength of such photon is 0.1um (micro meter). .

Using the relationship between energy and frequency, E = hf, I made a quick calculation and realized that the wavelength of such radiation must be 100nm (0.1um) and the frequency (Hz) is to the order of 3 x 10^15 hertz. We do know that the frequency of a 5G network (5 Giga hertz - 95 Giga hertz) and discovered that it's frequency is of the order of 10^9 hertz. which is million times lower than what is considered as ionizing. It therefore means that photons from a 5G network can never ionize the human body.

We know all these because to excite the electron from the ground state of a hydrogen atom to the first excitation state, you must have an energy of 13.6 eV. If you check the energy of a 5G wave, you will see it is approximately 0.00002 eV which is a million times lower than the fundamental energy of ionizing radiation.

Some persons have also linked it to cause cancer and the rest, this is not true. Of course there are two effects of radiations which is stochastic and deterministic effect. Deterministic effect occurs instantly and severity increases with radiation dose where as stochastic effect does not occur instantly but will take time to manifest.

Let me point out that, those who survived the Hiroshima and Nagazaki bomb blast and were followed in a study called Cohort Study, out of over 100k followed person, only about 2% died of cancer related cases which manifested about 50 years after the incident. Remember these people took many grays of highly ionizing radiations.

Whenever you take flight from a particular place to another, you have absorbed more ionizing radiations that someone living 20km from a nuclear power plant. When you take 1-9 cigarettes a day, you take same risk as someone who took a dose of 3.4Sv from a bomb blast.

To end it, 5G network is not an ionizing radiation, and poses no harm to the body, well not anyone that has been experience now. It will take many years for one to experience any such effect (Which to me is not possible). Some of us have done X-rays, if only you knew you stood against an ionizing radiation, and yet still healthy, you won't be talking about 5G network.

The words of MrPhysics grin grin grin

I have a Masters in radiation physics and I completely agree with what you wrote here.
Good job

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by blowjohn(m): 12:12pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.



Lol. Well summed up.
That's the issue. They read textbooks in Nigerian universities and take everything hook line and sinker.
They have forgotten that the absence of proof or evidence doesnt necessarily invalidate a claim.

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by zoroby(m): 12:12pm On Apr 05, 2020
I know this information is useful. I did not understand anything though
Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by zinny377(f): 12:12pm On Apr 05, 2020
*INFORMATION FROM CREDIBLE SOURCE ABOUT THE LOCKDOWN DUE TO COVID - 19*

I think you need to patiently read through. A lot is happening underground.

I want you to know that the Covid-19 isn't really an unknown disease as the World appears to be unaware of this deadly killer disease.

First thing to note is that viruses from our little knowledge of biology isn't a living thing until it's in a host's body. Higher scientific research shows that viruses do not exist in nature (God didn't create viruses). Viruses are man-made.

If viruses are man-made as scientific research shows where did *SARS* & *Corona viruses* come from?

The Big Question?
They were created by man.
Why Why *Covid-19*?
Have you heard of the *NWO*
*THE NEW WORLD ORDER*
(ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT - ONE WORLD ECONOMY - ONE WORLD RELIGION)...

That's the why?
And you ask how?
Don't think am just talking because these are facts on the internet but individuals are busy on Facebook and those in governments are not searching out the truth because they love lies like Satan their Father.

There is a group that go by the name *ID2020* (go on the internet they are there... not hidden at all ... https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines).

The objective of this group is to bring the *NWO* to reality by the use of *vaccine.* How? The group has successfully produced & launched the *ID2020* - a *vaccine* so to speak but not a *vaccine* in reality...
It contains the *vaccine* alright but the main aim is the *DIGITAL IDENTITY* it gives to everyone that received it.

This digital identity enables you to be able to track a man like you would track a phone. There is a lot of good stuff to this because banking procedures are accessed through this digital identity & much more but let's leave out these other details.

This will also mean that just the same way the operators can manipulate your phones and other internet enabled devices, man will be manipulatable.

Governments will now much more than ever be able to manipulate man beyond what they are doing now with the media filled with all sorts of concocted lies.
We are not there yet... just hang on.

There are some quotes picked from some of these sites that reveal their perky nature:

“Digital identity can empower the powerless. But it can also be *used to exclude people or even persecute* vulnerable populations like refugees, children, and the homeless." (https://www.biometricupdate.com/202003/kiva-and-gravity-earth-granted-first-id2020-certifications-for-empowering-users-of-digital-id-technology).

"The program *to leverage immunization as an opportunity to establish digital identity* was unveiled by ID2020 in partnership with the Bangladesh Government’s Access to Information (a2i) Program, the Directorate General of Health Services, and Gavi, according to the announcement."

"Digital identity is a computerized record of who a person is, stored in a registry. *It is used*, in this case, *to keep track* of who has received vaccination."

In a bid to cover up information, some text from this site was deleted (https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines)

"This post was updated at 4:58pm on March 26, 2020 to clarify that the program is intended to allow people to receive vaccination and prove they have received it, not to *track individuals*, as claimed by some conspiracy theorists."

*Lies,* *Lies,* *Lies* & *Lies*

Take note that *ID2020* didn't kick of in year 2020. It's a project that's supposed to be launched in 2020. Now this got ready in September 2019 according to the publication.

Now how do they deceive the World into opting for a *vaccine?*
There can never be a *vaccine* if there is no disease - a disease that's so large scale that the world will be brought totally on it's knees and would cry for a solution.

The answer is to create a *Pandemic*...
So they created the *Covid-19.*
What should be the end result for the world... *FEAR,* *FEAR, FEAR & FEAR*

And they got exactly that now. But this is not all.

This same group *ID2020* is working on another initiative called the *IOT* or the *IOT & Y.*
What's this?
It means the *INTERNET OF THINGS & YOU.* What in the world is this again?

The *IOT &Y* simply means by some new technology, anything that could be connected to the internet would be connected to the internet including you (man).

In their writings at this earlier stages they don't include the "You" part of it because they are working with the *principle of gradualism* - little by little so no one could possibly notice.

They call it *IOT.* The internet of things meaning that your Car, bed, table, shoes etc can be connected to internet if you want them to. And I hear people asking how can?
The movies you watch where these things are portrayed are no jokes because that's the intention.

Now the real reason for the *IOT* is not because they really want to make life easy for you.
No!!!
The main reason is to connect you to the internet so your mind can be easily manipulatable.

This is the same goal the so-called undercover *vaccine* has...a *Digital identity* - Code that distinguishes you from any other person on earth.

How will the *IOT* be made possible Another Big Question
Have you heard of the *5G* recently?
Well if you have heard nothing, quickly go on the internet and browse it for yourself.

At this point I want to let you know that the *4G* that we are enjoying have been proved by research to cause symptoms exactly similar to that of cancer when exposed to radiations that are beyond what the human body should naturally take.

Now the *5G internet* speed is not new at all because it's been in use in the military for a long time.

The *IOT* can only be made possible by internet speed that high as that of the *5G.* Don't you want the *IOT?*
I want it...
I want to have a smartcar, smartbed, etc & everyone I know want it too including your one year old baby (you understand what am talking about - parents with new borns nowadays). They say they must do this through the *5G.*

The radiations from the *5G* has been shown to cause severe damage to plants, animals, & human beings alike. Causing severe Health issues in man. But they still insist, we must go for *5G* because of the original intention - an internet enabled man - to track man and be able to manipulate man.

Their expectation here about the *IOT* is for us to blindly embrace the benefits of *5G* without telling us the stern disadvantages that awaits man.

Well both will work together according to their plan. It's either we strike the world with so much fear about the *Covid-19 Pandemic* that they will cry out for this *ID2020 vaccine* or we give them this *5G* that it's effect will result in massive numbers of health degradations that everyone will call out for this *ID2020 vaccine.* Either way the vaccine will be needed.

... And remember it's not an ordinary *vaccine*... It's an implant into your body that makes you trackable & manipulatable.

Have we seen the ravages caused by the *Covid-19* in many nations today?
Yes!!!
We see it... we hear it actually.

Have you asked yourself why the *LOCKDOWN* of many cities and nations around the world?
It's *Global Fooling.*

The *Chinese Government is busy installing the 5G optical fibers. They need some time to pass these cables and wire them underground throughout the select areas. They should not be seen by anyone so there had to be a LOCKDOWN*

The United Kingdom is doing the same thing.

And Guess what?
They told us to use HAND SANITIZERS & NOSE MASK but these people employed to do this job are using non of these?

The Government of this world has put the whole world under siege for their own selfish ambitions which Satan seeks to take advantage of; while everyone looks blindly. Everyone has become a prisoner in his own house (Dare to come out & the soldiers are waiting to fight you to death).

So where is all this leading to?

Remember the mark of the beast?
What do you think it will be?
A tattoo?
May be a Tattoo but not an ordinary Tattoo - it's an *INTELLIGENT TATTOO* like what *BILL GATES* recently launched having already in it the *Covid-19 vaccine.*
( https://savedmag.com/bill-gates-quantum-dot-digital-tattoo-implant-to-track-covid-19-vaccine-compliance/ )

A short quote from this site:

"MIT has been developing the *quantum tattoo at Bill Gates’ direction and funding.*

MIT RESEARCHERS haveY “FOUND A COVERT WAY TO EMBED THE RECORD OF A VACCINATION DIRECTLY IN A PATIENT'S SKIN RATHER THAN DOCUMENTING IT ELECTRONICALLY OR ON PAPER*—and their low-risk tracking system* could greatly simplify the process of maintaining accurate vaccine records, especially on a larger scale,” according to ScienceAlert.Com.

The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation funded MIT’s research for *the invisible mark,* which was published in the journal, Science Translational Medicine, in December 2019.

*“The invisible “tattoo”* accompanying the vaccine is a pattern made up of minuscule quantum dots – tiny semiconducting crystals that reflect light – that glows under infrared light.”

Bill Gates is also working with the *ID2020* group to produce this NANO CHIP that is called the *ID2020* project which when INSERTED INTO YOUR SKIN (THEY HAVE PROPOSED ALREADY - RIGHT HAND & FOREHEAD just as SCRIPTURE PREDICTS ) MAKES YOU TRACKABLE - YOU CAN DO MONEY TRANSFERS FROM YOUR HAND , (NOT A PHONE), MAKE CALLS WITH YOUR HAND (NOT A PHONE) ETC. - - - - -
"THIS IS THE MARK OF THE BEAST... .

( https://jamesfetzer.org/2020/03/bill-gates-quantum-dot-digital-tattoo-implant-to-track-covid-19-vaccine-compliance/ )

AND REMEMBER THE ONLY TIME THERE WILL BE *A ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, ECONOMY AND RELIGION ORGANIZED BY THE PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD, IT WILL BE SPEARHEADED BY THE ANTICHRIST.*

This is where all this is headed to.

All this is the hidden truth about the *Covid-19.*
DON'T KEEP QUIET ... PUBLISH IT EVERYWHERE YOU CAN & ALSO MAKE YOUR OWN FINDINGS.

We must stop them & we can stop them; so let's stop them before we will become so enslaved until we don't know how we got here!!!

If we allow them to continue laying this *5G* optical fibres, the situation of health in the world will grow worse & that's the plan.

We can't play along anymore.

EXPOSE THEM ... FIGHT A JUST CAUSE ... SAVE OUR WORLD !!!

This ridiculous scam must end, not by GOVERNMENT EDICT BUT BY MASSIVE DISOBEDIENCE LIKE WE ARE SEEING IN FRANCE NOW !!!

*SPREAD THE TRUTH*

*~~~ REV. DR. CHRIS OYAKHILOME*

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by InvertedHammer: 12:12pm On Apr 05, 2020
Failure44:

A GRADUATE IN NUCLEAR PHYSICS is telling you something and an illterate like you that probably studied book keeping or English is saying another thing.

angry undecided
/
A graduate in Nuclear Physics. Is he the head of NASA? Don't be fazed by certificates that Nigerians throw around. Which programme is he affiliated with? Cram and vomit at work. That's all.

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by slowice(m): 12:12pm On Apr 05, 2020
Thank you for this piece... I know nothing in physics but you spoke my mind and put icing on it... Bless you

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by VisioDirect: 12:13pm On Apr 05, 2020
There is no amount if data capacity that the world needs that 3G cannot provide not to mention 4G, why the unnecessary rush for 5G, ID2020, digital vaccine etc, they should just stop this new one world order of a thing.

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Dadaboy: 12:13pm On Apr 05, 2020
Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.
My brother it’s what Nigeria university can do to people. See the way he is boasting he studied Nuclear engineering as if he thinks everyone here is ignorant like the people hailing him.

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Sleekmilan01(m): 12:14pm On Apr 05, 2020
You guys kip talking about 5g like we have successfully implemented 3g not to talk of 4g
that Is just in selected areas of the country...those clamouring for its establishment are those that feels its safe to jump from A to D instead of going through B and C to get to D...

Let them finish the 3G and 4G fully then we can decide if its 5G is what we what...

BTW 5G has proven to be harmful,even CNN aired it last year which was why USA banned China huawei devices because of its security risks and health hazard...

And to those forming lecturers and professors of physics and radio waves,remember u can't know everything,there's a limit to what u know and what u were taught,only few ever got full informations of studies and theories...

Don't try to stamp ya authority because u know a few things,so many unanswered questions out there already...

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Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Nobody: 12:14pm On Apr 05, 2020
Buliwyf:
Thanks MrPhysics.

Unfortunately the morons peddling those false claims do not care about logic or knowledge in the first place.

5G is not even more powerful than 4G. Unlike what the fake Oyakhilome claims. 5G by its very nature is just capable of evacuating a much larger amount of data at once.
ah! We want 5G then, no slow network, i will get Netflix instantly.

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