mrphysics:

What a way to think about it. So once a group of rumor mongers and propagators raise the air on anything again, then the government should discontinue it?

What a way to live. How did we get to this point?

You are defending this 5g basrf on your knowledge of physics. A knowledge a mortal thought you.. Have you asked 'what if my teacher was not told the whole truth'? "What if the conspiracy is true?

Do you think all the knowledge you have is perfect?
Please be careful because we are heading in to another phase of human existence
This is not a conspiracy theory... stay awoke

Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

It must be people like you who won't educate themselves but instead thrive on dogma and sentiments that are destroying 5G antennas in the places you mentioned.
Your type constitute a drag on advancement.
You kick against what you don't understand, believe your equally half-educated pastors more than you believe your scientists, yet you have no shame in utilising all the products of technology. In no distant future, when 5G has come into everyday use, you will not come back here to apologise for your sturbon ignorance.
Deeper Life people have not come back to tell us what changed about the use of the television.

Thank God that ultimately the wheel of progress will continue to roll on despite your noise making.

Good write up, only one problem. Non-ionizing radiation also has some acute effects resulting from over-exposure. Infra-red, visible light, microwave, radiowaves(e.g 5G), etc are all non-ionizing but exposure to high doses could lead to internal heating, dermatitis, skin rashes, hair loss, infertility etc.

So my point is, weather Ionizing or Non-ionizing, there are acute effects from exposure to high doses.

you only know weather its ionizing or non ionizing radiation by just reading a book or a lecture from your lecturer nd you believe it.

mrphysics:
I went through this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5774444/fact-check-coronavirus-caused-5g-technology by aminulive and while I appreciate what he has done, I think enough needs to be done to drive that point clearer to the Nigerian audience. However, my fear is that when scientist and health practitioners say something, most people, especially Nigerians will accept the ones coming from religious leaders.

I will try my best to explain in details what you should know about radiations.

Classifications of Radiations
They are two basic classification of radiations, they include:
1 Particle radiation: This contains charged and neutral particles
2. Electromagnetic radiation: (Photon flow. 5G belongs to this group.)

We can classify radiations according to their biological effects on matter, here, we have two types of radiations: Ionizing and non ionizing radiations.

You must have heard these two in recent times, so what is ionizing and non ionizing radiations?
a. Ionizing radiations: This means radiation have enough energy to eject one electron from the atom of the crossed material.
b. Non ionizing radiation: Particle energy is not enough to eject one electron from the atom, therefore it is said to have lower ionizing potential.

Great, let's advance further. The next question is, at what energy is a particle considered as ionizing? I won't waste much time here, so let's concentrate on 5G and their corresponding energy.

I am a graduate student of Nuclear Engineering. And in one of our course called Interaction of Radiation with Matter, we discussed everything about ionizing and non ionizing radiation.
Therefore, for tissues/matter consisting of Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen (Which the human body fall under), radiations are considered as ionizing radiation if their energy is greater >> 12.4 eV (electron volt). The wavelength of such photon is 0.1um (micro meter). .

Using the relationship between energy and frequency, E = hf, I made a quick calculation and realized that the wavelength of such radiation must be 100nm (0.1um) and the frequency (Hz) is to the order of 3 x 10^15 hertz. We do know that the frequency of a 5G network (5 Giga hertz - 95 Giga hertz) and discovered that it's frequency is of the order of 10^9 hertz. which is million times lower than what is considered as ionizing. It therefore means that photons from a 5G network can never ionize the human body.

We know all these because to excite the electron from the ground state of a hydrogen atom to the first excitation state, you must have an energy of 13.6 eV. If you check the energy of a 5G wave, you will see it is approximately 0.00002 eV which is a million times lower than the fundamental energy of ionizing radiation.

Some persons have also linked it to cause cancer and the rest, this is not true. Of course there are two effects of radiations which is stochastic and deterministic effect. Deterministic effect occurs instantly and severity increases with radiation dose where as stochastic effect does not occur instantly but will take time to manifest.

Let me point out that, those who survived the Hiroshima and Nagazaki bomb blast and were followed in a study called Cohort Study, out of over 100k followed person, only about 2% died of cancer related cases which manifested about 50 years after the incident. Remember these people took many grays of highly ionizing radiations.

Whenever you take flight from a particular place to another, you have absorbed more ionizing radiations that someone living 20km from a nuclear power plant. When you take 1-9 cigarettes a day, you take same risk as someone who took a dose of 3.4Sv from a bomb blast.

To end it, 5G network is not an ionizing radiation, and poses no harm to the body, well not anyone that has been experience now. It will take many years for one to experience any such effect (Which to me is not possible). Some of us have done X-rays, if only you knew you stood against an ionizing radiation, and yet still healthy, you won't be talking about 5G network.

The words of MrPhysics

You only spoke on the Physics point. The aspect you know nothing about is the biochemical effects.

EMF is not friendly to protein.
I would have taken this write up serious if he had even ACKNOWLEDGED the effects of radio waves on human health.

Even elementary physics exposed the effects of EMF and RF or RW on human health.

It may not be CORONAVIRUS per se, but it's autoimmune effects.
Let's look at
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there are a lot of contrary study published in recent years.

Most of them concerned about evidence of biochemical or cellular effects of electromagnetic fields.

Marino and Becker have shown that static or very low-frequency electromagnetic fields may lead to biological effects associated with redistribution of ions.

Furthermore, many studies demonstrated that biological effects of low-frequency magnetic fields may penetrate into deeper tissues.

Foletti et al. showed that ELF-EMF may have an effect on several cellular functions such as cell proliferation and differentiation, which was followed by many other researchers such as Tian et al. who showed its effect on apoptosis, Takahashi et al.

OTHER STUDIES ON IT'S EFFECTS ON HEALTH.

High EMF was implicated in many health hazards.

On DNA synthesis, Goodman et al.

on RNA transcription, Goodman and Henderson

on protein expression, Zrimec et al.

on ATP synthesis, Paksy et al.

on hormone production,
Kula et al.

on antioxidant enyzme systems, Milani et al.

on metabolic activity, and Wolf et al.

on NFkB and cell destruction.

Giladi et al. demonstrated that EMF of intermediate frequency was effective in arresting the growth of cells.

Kirson et al. indicated that this direct inhibitory effect on cell growth can be used for therapeutic purposes in the treatment of cancer.

EMF of very high frequency (like 5G) has thermal and non-thermal effects on the biological systems. This thermogenic effect is mainly associated with the intensity of EMF, which is expressed as specific absorption rate (SAR).

*Thermal effect or increased temperature lead to various changes in the cellular functions, which may result in cell destruction.
*
Morrissey et al. showed that biological effects may occur even at very small temperature changes in in-vitro experimental models.

There are many papers showing that a weak EMF (NOT 5G) has no significant effect on biological systems.

10 year ago, some religious leaders propagated that Facebook is a 666 app,
Today, same religious leaders are begging people to follow them on Facebook live program.

The speed at which Nigerians forget these issues is what beats my imagination.

Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

Don't mind all these telecom engineers. The revolution against 5G is a threat to their job.

He is Mr Physics

Don't expect him to know the biochemical effects of radio waves.

I would have taken this write up serious if he had even ACKNOWLEDGED the effects of radio waves on human health.

Even elementary physics exposed the effects of EMF and RF or RW on human health.

It may not be CORONAVIRUS per se, but it's autoimmune effects.
Let's look at
�
there are a lot of contrary study published in recent years.

Most of them concerned about evidence of biochemical or cellular effects of electromagnetic fields.

Marino and Becker have shown that static or very low-frequency electromagnetic fields may lead to biological effects associated with redistribution of ions.

Furthermore, many studies demonstrated that biological effects of low-frequency magnetic fields may penetrate into deeper tissues.

Foletti et al. showed that ELF-EMF may have an effect on several cellular functions such as cell proliferation and differentiation, which was followed by many other researchers such as Tian et al. who showed its effect on apoptosis, Takahashi et al.

OTHER STUDIES ON IT'S EFFECTS ON HEALTH.

High EMF was implicated in many health hazards.

On DNA synthesis, Goodman et al.

on RNA transcription, Goodman and Henderson

on protein expression, Zrimec et al.

on ATP synthesis, Paksy et al.

on hormone production,
Kula et al.

on antioxidant enyzme systems, Milani et al.

on metabolic activity, and Wolf et al.

on NFkB and cell destruction.

Giladi et al. demonstrated that EMF of intermediate frequency was effective in arresting the growth of cells.

Kirson et al. indicated that this direct inhibitory effect on cell growth can be used for therapeutic purposes in the treatment of cancer.

EMF of very high frequency (like 5G) has thermal and non-thermal effects on the biological systems. This thermogenic effect is mainly associated with the intensity of EMF, which is expressed as specific absorption rate (SAR).

*Thermal effect or increased temperature lead to various changes in the cellular functions, which may result in cell destruction.
*
Morrissey et al. showed that biological effects may occur even at very small temperature changes in in-vitro experimental models.

There are many papers showing that a weak EMF (NOT 5G) has no significant effect on biological systems.

NB: THE 21ST CENTURY ILLITERATE WILL BE LITERATE THAT BREEDS SELF DESTRUCTIVE TECHNOLOGY

Technology should look for a way to achieve the 5G without necessarily harmful to human existance.

Liveair:
The truth is 5G tech is a Trillion Dollar industry for future connected world, where the USA is losing a major market share to China.
So, they are employing western media to vilify China by starting with her largest player, HUAWEI.
Ask yourself, what has virus (micro organism) with wireless tech?
Which virus was associated with 4G and 3G, since wireless transmission now creates viruses?

Am sure its now clear to the world that Sadam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction - the reason the USA gave for invading Iraq.

Blood of Jesus..!!!! Bro you took this words out of me... i was telling a neighbour of mine same thing but he was so adamant, and you know there’s a limit to how you can argue with someone who is not ready to listen to the truth.

Danniedpastor:




You are defending this 5g basrf on your knowledge of physics. A knowledge a mortal thought you.. Have you asked 'what if my teacher was not told the whole truth'? "What if the conspiracy is true?

Do you think all the knowledge you have is perfect?
Please be careful because we are heading in to another phase of human existence
This is not a conspiracy theory... stay awoke

A mortal that did a lot of experiment, presented to group of experts and it was acknowledged to be true and a fact.

Now you want me to listen to you, a MoG on this subject? Absolutely no, you don't have the right to speak on such subject

It's still safer routing your data through America than this mischievous Chinese your kind prefer to die with!!

Xisnin:



This is the most hilarious posts I have read.
When did you start caring about your data?

Who owns the technology you are using to browse?

It's still safer routing your data through America gateway than this mischievous Chinese you and your kind prefer to die with! Have ever heardof data personal privacy !

Xisnin:



This is the most hilarious posts I have read.
When did you start caring about your data?

Who owns the technology you are using to browse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_OK5U1mK64
Stay safe guys... learn how to make your hand sanitizers at home by yourself

Did you read through my commentor your just daft enoughnot to understand it

InvertedHammer:

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X-Ray is not harmful to human health?

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mrphysics:
I went through this thread
https://www.nairaland.com/5774444/fact-check-coronavirus-caused-5g-technology by aminulive and while I appreciate what he has done, I think enough needs to be done to drive that point clearer to the Nigerian audience. However, my fear is that when scientist and health practitioners say something, most people, especially Nigerians will accept the ones coming from religious leaders.

I will try my best to explain in details what you should know about radiations.

Classifications of Radiations
They are two basic classification of radiations, they include:
1 Particle radiation: This contains charged and neutral particles
2. Electromagnetic radiation: (Photon flow. 5G belongs to this group.)

We can classify radiations according to their biological effects on matter, here, we have two types of radiations: Ionizing and non ionizing radiations.

You must have heard these two in recent times, so what is ionizing and non ionizing radiations?
a. Ionizing radiations: This means radiation have enough energy to eject one electron from the atom of the crossed material.
b. Non ionizing radiation: Particle energy is not enough to eject one electron from the atom, therefore it is said to have lower ionizing potential.

Great, let's advance further. The next question is, at what energy is a particle considered as ionizing? I won't waste much time here, so let's concentrate on 5G and their corresponding energy.

I am a graduate student of Nuclear Engineering. And in one of our course called Interaction of Radiation with Matter, we discussed everything about ionizing and non ionizing radiation.
Therefore, for tissues/matter consisting of Hydrogen, Carbon, Nitrogen, Oxygen (Which the human body fall under), radiations are considered as ionizing radiation if their energy is greater >> 12.4 eV (electron volt). The wavelength of such photon is 0.1um (micro meter). .

Using the relationship between energy and frequency, E = hf, I made a quick calculation and realized that the wavelength of such radiation must be 100nm (0.1um) and the frequency (Hz) is to the order of 3 x 10^15 hertz. We do know that the frequency of a 5G network (5 Giga hertz - 95 Giga hertz) and discovered that it's frequency is of the order of 10^9 hertz. which is million times lower than what is considered as ionizing. It therefore means that photons from a 5G network can never ionize the human body.

We know all these because to excite the electron from the ground state of a hydrogen atom to the first excitation state, you must have an energy of 13.6 eV. If you check the energy of a 5G wave, you will see it is approximately 0.00002 eV which is a million times lower than the fundamental energy of ionizing radiation.

Some persons have also linked it to cause cancer and the rest, this is not true. Of course there are two effects of radiations which is stochastic and deterministic effect. Deterministic effect occurs instantly and severity increases with radiation dose where as stochastic effect does not occur instantly but will take time to manifest.

Let me point out that, those who survived the Hiroshima and Nagazaki bomb blast and were followed in a study called Cohort Study, out of over 100k followed person, only about 2% died of cancer related cases which manifested about 50 years after the incident. Remember these people took many grays of highly ionizing radiations.

Whenever you take flight from a particular place to another, you have absorbed more ionizing radiations that someone living 20km from a nuclear power plant. When you take 1-9 cigarettes a day, you take same risk as someone who took a dose of 3.4Sv from a bomb blast.

To end it, 5G network is not an ionizing radiation, and poses no harm to the body, well not anyone that has been experience now. It will take many years for one to experience any such effect (Which to me is not possible). Some of us have done X-rays, if only you knew you stood against an ionizing radiation, and yet still healthy, you won't be talking about 5G network.

The words of MrPhysics

Decent explanation. The sad part is the propagation of these conspiracy theories by Pastors and some supposedly learned people.

mrphysics:


It will help you because as it stands now, Nigeria does not have enough network to conduct online lectures or even to follow. Most Nigerians depend on big mb and Midnight to be able to make huge download.

If you keep relying on low network such as 4G, you will only be living in the past. Whereas the world is advancing, you guys are drawing us backwards, yet believe most of the magic performed by some fake pastors.

You guys won't stop drawing us backwards yet turn around to blame the government for lack of development.

Bro....keep telling them, if only they know the huge opportunities we miss online coz of poor Network. Even Corona virus will make it worse coz a lot of people will be laid off when this is over......the internet is and will continue to be the next big thing. The question is....do people have the skillset to embrace this.

NairaMaster1:


You only spoke on the Physics point. The aspect you know nothing about is the biochemical effects.

EMF is not friendly to protein.
I would have taken this write up serious if he had even ACKNOWLEDGED the effects of radio waves on human health.

Even elementary physics exposed the effects of EMF and RF or RW on human health.

It may not be CORONAVIRUS per se, but it's autoimmune effects.
Let's look at
�
there are a lot of contrary study published in recent years.

Most of them concerned about evidence of biochemical or cellular effects of electromagnetic fields.

There are many papers showing that a weak EMF (NOT 5G) has no significant effect on biological systems.

I have studied the effects of radiation on cells, DNA, and the creation of radicals of ions whose life times are so small and can cause mutation. However, these are ionizing radiations.

Well, like I said, EMF of the order of 5 Ghz can not ionize the body, it does not posses enough energy to rip off electrons on DNAs. It can only cause vibrations or heating which is so insignificant that it may never be noticed.

All those tests of course would show you such possibilities on cells at a very nano or pico level.

Have you heard about Cohort Studies? It is a life span study on survivors of Hiroshima Nagazaki bomb blast. We have that only 2% of those who have died died of cancer related issues. This is after 50 years. Most of the survivors are still living.

I'm not a fan of broadcast messages, a friend sent me a broadcast message of a Yoruba man, I think about 24mins. When I clicked play and heard d man saying 5G is the cause of COVID-19 I quickly stopped it and called my friend. First question I asked her is, we don't have 5G in Nigeria yet we have the virus. Secondly I asked, y is it that the virus is selecting ppl it wants to kill and other ppl survive. Thirdly, if it's 5G that is killing ppl, y is it that 5G masks installed in a locality hasn't finished everybody there?. See I don't know why human beings don't do research b4 concluding especially blacks(Sorry about this statement). We are still the ones that will be begging for a fast network web the coronavirus issue goes away. Anyways we all have our different opinions, but as for me, I tell ppl broadcast messages cause death faster than the disease itself

NairaMaster1:


You only spoke on the Physics point. The aspect you know nothing about is the biochemical effects.

EMF is not friendly to protein.
I would have taken this write up serious if he had even ACKNOWLEDGED the effects of radio waves on human health.

Even elementary physics exposed the effects of EMF and RF or RW on human health.

It may not be CORONAVIRUS per se, but it's autoimmune effects.
Let's look at
�
there are a lot of contrary study published in recent years.

Most of them concerned about evidence of biochemical or cellular effects of electromagnetic fields.

Marino and Becker have shown that static or very low-frequency electromagnetic fields may lead to biological effects associated with redistribution of ions.

Furthermore, many studies demonstrated that biological effects of low-frequency magnetic fields may penetrate into deeper tissues.

Foletti et al. showed that ELF-EMF may have an effect on several cellular functions such as cell proliferation and differentiation, which was followed by many other researchers such as Tian et al. who showed its effect on apoptosis, Takahashi et al.

OTHER STUDIES ON IT'S EFFECTS ON HEALTH.

High EMF was implicated in many health hazards.

On DNA synthesis, Goodman et al.

on RNA transcription, Goodman and Henderson

on protein expression, Zrimec et al.

on ATP synthesis, Paksy et al.

on hormone production,
Kula et al.

on antioxidant enyzme systems, Milani et al.

on metabolic activity, and Wolf et al.

on NFkB and cell destruction.

Giladi et al. demonstrated that EMF of intermediate frequency was effective in arresting the growth of cells.

Kirson et al. indicated that this direct inhibitory effect on cell growth can be used for therapeutic purposes in the treatment of cancer.

EMF of very high frequency (like 5G) has thermal and non-thermal effects on the biological systems. This thermogenic effect is mainly associated with the intensity of EMF, which is expressed as specific absorption rate (SAR).

*Thermal effect or increased temperature lead to various changes in the cellular functions, which may result in cell destruction.
*
Morrissey et al. showed that biological effects may occur even at very small temperature changes in in-vitro experimental models.

There are many papers showing that a weak EMF (NOT 5G) has no significant effect on biological systems.

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MrPhysics probably read a Physics textbook written in 1973 that he checked out in University of Ibadan's library. I won't put it beyond Nigerian professors to be teaching from the notes they prepared in 60s. We can learn to excuse his half-baked education...not entirely his fault.

Human Physiology is too extensive to be explained only with its relationship with non-biological science like Physics.
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nice one
but we're yet to fully utilize 4g, boom 5g cum show. its too fast comparef to the gap between 3g and 4g. 2g and 3g.

JaySalvador27:
Good write up, only one problem. Non-ionizing radiation also has some acute effects resulting from over-exposure. Infra-red, visible light, microwave, radiowaves(e.g 5G), etc are all non-ionizing but exposure to high doses could lead to internal heating, dermatitis, skin rashes, hair loss, infertility etc.

So my point is, weather Ionizing or Non-ionizing, there are acute effects from exposure to high doses.

You haven't said anything new that the op didn't cover.
He even got down to numbers.
There are expert groups and authorities whose job it is to take are of those details, and they have been doing a good job of it.

Mr physics, don't assume that you know everything about physics, there is more that meets the eye. Inasmuch as I respect your innocent explanation, there is a deep mystery and spirituality(negative or positive)that surrounds everything we know that exists physically and what we can term secular.

The defination of illiteracy has to be updated. There are so many educated illiterates. Our problem in africa has always stemmed from religion, thou thats why it was introduced to us, to make us intelligent but locked up in a prison of our own head.

Agboriotejoye:

How is it correct? Can you show proof of its correctness

I am going to be giving different perspectives to this as it involves a lot of basic background knowledge.
Think about this for a minute; in some food processing industries, ionizing radiation is used to sterilize food items like fruits and vegetables before they are packed to be sold. They do this kill microbes and other harmful organisms. Now, how would virus survive in an ionizing radiation source even if 5G was to be ionizing source of radiation? Won’t the virus die from interaction with this source of radiation? 5G network technology is not an ionizing radiation source.
We know radio frequency do not have relatively very short wavelength as ionizing radiation source such as gamma ray or X-ray. They might be all electromagnetic waves but their ionizing potential is different.

He even went further to explain the bio radiation effect of ionizing radiation as it relates to humans. Pay close attention to his use of the word deterministic and sotatistic effect due to threshold difference during the interaction.
It would look like what people are worried about now is the deterministic effect of 5G network; if there is even anything like. I mentioned this because of the time span so far between the introduction of 5G and the coronavirus. The time is too short for it to be considered a sotatistic effect.
Even with that, the science of it does not support that assumption. A certain threshold must be reached in order to observe any Deterministic effect of radiation on any human tissue. In this case, 5G technology being a non ionizing radiation source cannot get to such harmful threshold.

You see when a man of God who have had 30+ years spiritual experience go to a physics challenge exam with an ND student in Physics he will be disgraced. That's what is playing out with some of our religious leaders who leave Spritual matters and start dabbling in the field of Science.

molybdenum0012:



It's obvious you are the one that is a waste here. A bunch of ignoramus!

Obviously you are. and I don’t have time to exchange banters with ignoramus like you. Your types go to school to get certification in physics and still doubt Einstein views about Religion/God.

joshjc:
Nice analysis,but they won't read and learn or listen to those who are experts in physics,but they will rather listen to pastors who are trying to remain relevant, after failing to predict the outbreak of covid 19, religious leaders has always been against breakthrough in science,eg IVF,space exploration and many more

I really did not want to expose the unnecessary religious hatred I've been reading since but I need to correct your wrong claim that religious leaders are against breakthrough in science.

Most people ignorantly think that the opposite of religion is science. Early founding fathers of science were actually religious people.

Creation.com | Creation Ministries International
Scientists of the past who believed in a Creator
Back to Creation scientists index
. Logical thought patterns of the medieval Scholastic philosophers of the Church led to challenges to the received wisdom about nature from Aristotelian dogma. Universities sprang up over Europe, where learning was passed on and debate encouraged. Extensive inventiveness and mechanical ingenuity developed in the monasteries, where optics was researched and spectacles invented. There was an industrial revolution thanks to the development of water and wind power and superior agriculture that supported a population boom. The blast furnace and mechanical clock began in this period. The great Gothic cathedrals were works of architectural genius, with innovations such as the flying buttress to support the walls from outside, enabling a huge spacious interior were worshippers were bathed in light and colour through intricate stained glass windows. In astronomy, medieval scholars knew perfectly well that the earth was a globe and a tiny speck compared to the vastness of the universe. Many scientists of this period were clergymen in good standing. This period also saw the basic ideas of the geokinetic universe and thought-challenges to absolute geocentrism. The cathedrals were also used as gigantic solar observatories, called meridiane, and the research which the Church supported later lent support to the developing Keplerian astronomy.

https://creation.com/scientists-of-the-past-who-believed-in-a-creator

Sir Isaac Newton wrote more religious books than scientific materials, Michael Faraday was a church elder, Tesla, Pascal, Pastuer, Boyle, Joule, Maxwell, the list is just many. These were firm believers.

So please don't be deceived, Church never opposed learning.

HocusPotos:
they should stabilize our 4g first
Nonsense

yes o. The other day it took me more than 7 minutes to download a file of 38mb despite my phone displaying a full 4G network.

mrphysics:


It will help you because as it stands now, Nigeria does not have enough network to conduct online lectures or even to follow. Most Nigerians depend on big mb and Midnight to be able to make huge download.

If you keep relying on low network such as 4G, you will only be living in the past. Whereas the world is advancing, you guys are drawing us backwards, yet believe most of the magic performed by some fake pastors.

You guys won't stop drawing us backwards yet turn around to blame the government for lack of development.

Are there not side effects on the use of 5g?
And there was an article I read last year on how China beat USA in producing and using 5g network, maybe this is a conspiracy theory by the USA (CIA) to make people not use the Chinese 5g

iomoge2:
my question is? What exactly has been killing living things in the areas the 5G is just launched? I have a video where birds are falling and dieing and in the video you could see a newly installed n launched 5G mast.

China for one, we saw there were two types of death during the corona virus saga. That is some people, fall, struggle and die of lack of oxygen (suffocation) while d others must be hospital related.

What I learnt is that the initial launching kills via suffocation. After a while the whole radiation would calm down n the falling and dying would stop.

I am not countering all you wrote cos it's your field. But remember you were taught what they wanted to teach you. If the Chinese themselves are destroying the towers, guess they know what they are doing.

Also note that I didn't mention Corona virus death to being linked with 5G death. Corona virus is a cover up. And no, I didn't get this from religious leaders.

Then why did you get it from?