Barristter07:
chief; principal; of highest rank
archangel
archbishop
archduke
2. eminent above all others of the same kind; extreme
archenemy
archfiend
archfool


There you have it . like I said, u can't escape it.

ORIGIN of God's creation

The bible has no human source . God is its only source . men are agents

God is the source of Bible channel through human ORIGIN...

Angels watch as God laid the foundation's for earth ...which came first ?


Either

A. Angels are uncreated

B. Heaven and earth are not Beginning of creation . one must be true.

I just exposed your ignorance in my above reply

Emusan:


So Bible doesn't have human source, right?

No human source .

Reading through Prov 8 one can see that the speaker was alone with God, if not the speaker won't use "I"

Also, Prov 8 shows that it was God Himself that was performing the act of creation not anybody according to the speaker.

Lastly, the difference between the narration of the speaker in Prov 8 and that of Job 38 to show you that the speaker is absolutely out of creation was that the speaker of Prov 8 talks about CREATION OF HEAVEN and THE EARTH while

The last part that exposes your ignorance is this part "when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth." Vs 29

Now if you read it from that same verse 22 you'll see earth was already in existence, yet the foundations (plural) was still marked out.

Here it is, How many earth did God create if we should go by your laying foundation of earth in Job with Prov 8 to mean creation of earth?

I said you don't know the gravity of shit that will hit you with what you put your hand into.

No proof yet that he said he alone was there . that I said I witness something does not mean others dont as well. Where did he said ONLY ONE.

26 says " WHEN HE HAD NOT YET MADE THE EARTH "

Are you blind ? Earth wasn't made until foundations were marked in verse 29 which is what Job mentioned .

Barristter07:


Single one ... Jesus . the one he created directly. Gods only begotten son. , does that ring a bell ? Why is Jesus called SON OF GOD ?

David isn't firstborn in that sense ... He was called firstborn for His kingship status

Ole.....
The point here is since David is called FIRSTBORN and meaning of FIRSTBORN to you is first created being that means David was FIRST CREATED before Jesus which can't make Jesus the FIRSTCREATED being.

But if you try to shift the meaning of David being firstborn away from FIRSTCREATED then it means you're just a deluded person who didn't know he's right from left and try to force the meaning of firstborn to mean FIRSTCREATED only to Jesus

Emusan:


ORIGIN of God's creation

Do you see origin in what I quoted ? Sense is far from you

Now again am asking : Does been Arch enemy remove a person from among enemies ?

God is the source of Bible channel through human ORIGIN...

Blunder , So Satan has led you to the point where you manufacture blunders to satisfy yourself. Nothing like human origin .... God alone is the source.

I just exposed your ignorance in my above reply

No u didn't , show me where scripture said it has human origin ?

Emusan:


Ole.....
The point here is since David is called FIRSTBORN and meaning of FIRSTBORN to you is first created being that means David was FIRST CREATED before Jesus which can't make Jesus the FIRSTCREATED being.

But if you try to shift the meaning of David being firstborn away from FIRSTCREATED then it means you're just a deluded person who didn't know he's right from left and try to force the meaning of firstborn to mean FIRSTCREATED only to Jesus

Jesus was called firstborn in association with Creation. How was he born ?

Barristter07:


Okay since u reject my explanation ... Who is Gods firstborn between David and Jesus ?

You are the 1 to answer this question o. You are the 1 who quoted firstborn to back Ur claim tht Jesus is created... remember?

By the way

Matthew 14:32-33: “And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God.’”

Why did the apostles worship Jesus. Remember, u shall not worship nyother god

Barristter07:


Jesus was called firstborn in association with Creation. How was he born ?

Which one is how was he born nah....is your head paining u. Abi r u running out of ideas. He was conceived by immaculate conception. Wht has thAt got to do with this oga.

Why did the apostles worship Jesus jhoor...u go see pepper for nyash today...I never know wetin u enter so

freshboi88:


You are the 1 to answer this question o. You are the 1 who quoted firstborn to back Ur claim tht Jesus is created... remember?

Do you agree Jesus is Gods firstborn ? If you do , tell me why he was called such.

By the way

Matthew 14:32-33: “And when they climbed into the boat, the wind died down. Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God.’”

Why did the apostles worship Jesus. Remember, u shall not worship nyother god

Daniel was worshipped too . , I guess he is God ? Brain dead analysis

freshboi88:


Which one is how was he born nah....is your head paining u. Abi r u running out of ideas. He was conceived by immaculate conception. Wht has thAt got to do with this oga.

Angels are Gods son in heaven.
Was he also son before coming to earth ?

Why did the apostles worship Jesus jhoor...u go see pepper for nyash today...I never know wetin u enter so

Rev 3:9 human beings are worshipped too . Are they God?

Barristter07:

No human source .

There is!

No proof yet that he said he alone was there . that I said I witness something does not mean others dont as well. Where did he said ONLY ONE.

Reading through that passage with right sense will show you that.

26 says " WHEN HE HAD NOT YET MADE THE EARTH "

Are you blind ? Earth wasn't made until foundations were marked in verse 29 which is what Job mentioned .

Ole....
Earth was not made until foundations (plural) we're marked so where does the sea waters that overflow it's boundary come from?

I tell you, you must keep lying to defend lies.

When it was boldly written in the beginning of verse 29 "when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command,"

I asked again, if laying the foundation of the earth means creation of the earth, how many earth did God create in Prov 8? because it's FOUNDATIONS (plural).

It's even evident that you're just a lying liar...

freshboi88:


Proof of what?

Were u not the one that said just now that God appointed David as his firstborn

How many firstborns does God have now?

You LIED .
You have ZERO PROOF to back up your lie.
I NEVER twist anything.

USE your God given brain to Read and Study 1 Samuel 13:14. 1Samuel 16:13. Psalms 89:27. Luke 1:31-33.
Jesus Christ is firstborn of every creature. Col1:15 He is firstborn by right. Deut 21:17, to inherit David's throne.

David was firstborn by Yahweh's APPOINTMENT.


Read again this post :

Psalms 89:27
"And I will appoint him to be my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth."

King David is not the firstborn son of his parents, he has no claim to kingship, but David was APPOINTED as firstborn by Yahweh..
(1Samuel16:13. 1 Samuel 13:14.)
Your own Bible says Jesus Christ is"the firstborn of EVERY creature.
Jesus is firstborn by right of firstborn"

Barristter07:
Jesus was called firstborn in association with Creation. How was he born ?

Idiot....
Asking me how he was born!

What is the meaning of FIRSTBORN?

Emusan:


Ole.....
The point here is since David is called FIRSTBORN and meaning of FIRSTBORN to you is first created being that means David was FIRST CREATED before Jesus which can't make Jesus the FIRSTCREATED being.

But if you try to shift the meaning of David being firstborn away from FIRSTCREATED then it means you're just a deluded person who didn't know he's right from left and try to force the meaning of firstborn to mean FIRSTCREATED only to Jesus

Psalms 89:27 David was firstborn by APPOINTMENT of Yahweh.
You no read am For your Bible?
Haba !!!


Deut 21:17.

Barristter07:

Angels are Gods son in heaven.
Was he also son before coming to earth ?


Rev 3:9 human beings are worshipped too . Are they God?

Dude I can't made sense from your questions, please make Ur foam stop foaming from the mouth

Be that as it may, u r a big lair...where in Rev 3:9 is an angel worshipped?

Janosky:


Psalms 89:27 David was firstborn by APPOINTMENT of Yahweh.
You no read am For your Bible?
Haba !!!


Deut 21:17.

So what is the difference, by appointment he became firstborn....firstborn is firstborn whether it's by appointment or otherwise. Is not Jehovah Words not life again

Who was then created first Jesus or David

Janosky:

You LIED .
You have ZERO PROOF to back up your lie.
I NEVER twist anything.

USE your God given brain to Read and Study 1 Samuel 13:14. 1Samuel 16:13. Psalms 89:27. Luke 1:31-33.
Jesus Christ is firstborn of every creature. Col1:15 He is firstborn by right. Deut 21:17, to inherit David's throne.

David was firstborn by Yahweh's APPOINTMENT.


Read again this post :

Psalms 89:27
"And I will appoint him to be my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth."

King David is not the firstborn son of his parents, he has no claim to kingship, but David was APPOINTED as firstborn by Yahweh..
(1Samuel16:13. 1 Samuel 13:14.)
Your own Bible says Jesus Christ is"the firstborn of EVERY creature.
Jesus is firstborn by right of firstborn"

But then didn't Jesus lose that position by right of appointment

Hope u can see Ur mumuness

Barristter07:

Angels are Gods son in heaven.
Was he also son before coming to earth ?


Rev 3:9 human beings are worshipped too . Are they God?

Show me where the angel was worshipped in that verse.....no run o.

Emusan:


There is!




Reading through that passage with right sense will show you that.

Show me where the scripture says Bible has human origin ? Liar , Na your Father u dey copy . devil.

Ole....
Earth was not made until foundations (plural) we're marked so where does the sea waters that overflow it's boundary come from?

26 made it clear Earth was not yet formed

28 says the waters were founded first

29 he separated the dry land from the sea by setting a decree for the sea .

Job 38:4-8 made it clear that when he does all this things the Angels were there .

I tell you, you must keep lying to defend lies.

When it was boldly written in the beginning of verse 29 "when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command,"

I asked again, if laying the foundation of the earth means creation of the earth, how many earth did God create in Prov 8? because it's FOUNDATIONS (plural).

It's even evident that you're just a lying liar...

Then you need to ask again : when it says in the beginning God created heavens and earth , was it referring to Dry land or the sea ?

Genesis 1:10 God called the dry land " Earth "

freshboi88:


Show me where the angel was worshipped in that verse.....no run o.

Revelation 3:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet , and to know that I have loved thee."

Humans are to be worshipped here .

Are they Gods ?

Janosky:
David was firstborn by Yahweh's APPOINTMENT.


Read again this post :

Psalms 89:27
"And I will appoint him to be my firstborn, the most exalted of the kings of the earth."

King David is not the firstborn son of his parents, he has no claim to kingship, but David was APPOINTED as firstborn by Yahweh..
(1Samuel16:13. 1 Samuel 13:14.)
Your own Bible says Jesus Christ is"the firstborn of EVERY creature.
Jesus is firstborn by right of firstborn"

If not because your brain is paining you, you realized that being the firstborn doesn't really mean the first person given birth to, yet you want Jesus Christ "firstborn" to automatically be FIRSTCREATED....what a delusion!

The question you people don't like to even answer is:

There is a word in Greek for FIRSTCREATED, why didn't apostle Paul use this word instead of confusing us with the word FIRSTBORN?

From all indications, you people know that the word FIRSTBORN has no link with FIRSTCREATED that's why you people have being coming with different theories.

freshboi88:


Dude I can't made sense from your questions, please make Ur foam stop foaming from the mouth

Was Jesus Son of God before coming to earth ?

Be that as it may, u r a big lair...where in Rev 3:9 is an angel worshipped?

Its like you need glasses ... I said human beings are worshipped , are they Gods ?

Emusan:


Idiot....
Asking me how he was born!

What is the meaning of FIRSTBORN?

First BORN of all creation.

We know God doesn't give birth, so how did the firstborn of creation came to be?

Barristter07:
Show me where the scripture says Bible has human origin ? Liar , Na your Father u dey copy . devil.

Imagine he wants to dash me his father, you know your father has nothing in me as he has nothing in Christ.

Who is the Author of the Books in the Bible?

Do you know what author means?

26 made it clear Earth was not yet formed

28 says the waters were founded first

29 he separated the dry land from the sea by setting a decree for the sea .

Job 38:4-8 made it clear that when he does all this things the Angels were there

Can you see your life outside?
Listening will always be a liar no matter what....
When I said from onset that it was how God prepared earth to be habitable your emphasize was on LAYING FOUNDATION, you even asked "do I know what it means to lay the foundation of the earth?"

Just as you people change the word FIRSTBORN to mean FIRSTCREATED just to suit your demonic doctrines. You also did the same to mean laying foundation of the earth means creation of the earth.

Now, you finally dance to the tune of how earth was prepared

If the waters was founded first it means, something happened before the foundation was laid....which is the bone of contention here.... LAYING FOUNDATIONS

This is from your own word "Are you blind ? Earth wasn't made until foundations were marked in verse 29 which is what Job mentioned"

Now which earth are you referring to here, the one created in General 1:1 or the dry land called earth as you mentioned below?

Then you need to ask again : when it says in the beginning God created heavens and earth , was it referring to Dry land or the sea ?

Genesis 1:10 God called the dry land " Earth "

I've told you how Job 38 is all about preparation of earth created IN THE BEGINNING to be habitable because it's just focus on earth not about creation that's why I even went deep in contraction of Prov 8 with Job to show you how both explain different scenarios just that you're too brainwashed and blindfolded to reality.

So I'll ask again, which earth are you referring to in Job 38, the one created at the BEGINNING or the dry land prepared called EARTH?

Emusan:


Imagine he wants to dash me his father, you know your father has nothing in me as he has nothing in Christ.

Who is the Author of the Books in the Bible?

Do you know what author means?

So they owned what they penned ?
To claim authorship of something u must be the brain behind it.

Satan is really playing with your mind.

Can you see your life outside?
Listening will always be a liar no matter what....
When I said from onset that it was how God prepared earth to be habitable your emphasize was on LAYING FOUNDATION, you even asked "do I know what it means to lay the foundation of the earth?"

Just as you people change the word FIRSTBORN to mean FIRSTCREATED just to suit your demonic doctrines. You also did the same to mean laying foundation of the earth means creation of the earth.

Now, you finally dance to the tune of how earth was prepared

If the waters was founded first it means, something happened before the foundation was laid....which is the bone of contention here.... LAYING FOUNDATIONS

This is from your own word "Are you blind ? Earth wasn't made until foundations were marked in verse 29 which is what Job mentioned"

Now which earth are you referring to here, the one created in General 1:1 or the dry land called earth as you mentioned below?




I've told you how Job 38 is all about preparation of earth created IN THE BEGINNING to be habitable because it's just focus on earth not about creation that's why I even went deep in contraction of Prov 8 with Job to show you how both explain different scenarios just that you're too brainwashed and blindfolded to reality.

So I'll ask again, which earth are you referring to in Job 38, the one created at the BEGINNING or the dry land prepared called EARTH?

Job 38 refer to PLANET Earth . emphasis on " Founded the earth " " Set it's measurement " " sunk its pedestals " " its cornerstone "

And when we talk about Earth , Earth is 70% water . so there is no way we will discuss how God formed the earth that the sea won't come into discussion. Job 38:8 noted that after the water were formed, God set a limit for it.


" When the ocean was born, I set its boundaries " Job 38:8

So its not just dry land., but formation of the planet itself.

Clearly the angels witness The whole thing which shows they exist before the planet.

Hehehe see thread of foolishness and stupidity. The fresh mumu arguing probably doesnt have up to 100k in his account. Na why time dey to argue useless argument here.

Lmfao so sad. So so sad.

He never answers you, but wants you to answer him first. I only see an overgrown baby in him.


Please no one should waste time arguing with him. This is lockdown boredom. Correct one.

If you feel pained, drop location. Lemme come and teach you how to create pain.

Emusan:


Imagine he wants to dash me his father, you know your father has nothing in me as he has nothing in Christ.

Who is the Author of the Books in the Bible?

Do you know what author means?



Can you see your life outside?
Listening will always be a liar no matter what....
When I said from onset that it was how God prepared earth to be habitable your emphasize was on LAYING FOUNDATION, you even asked "do I know what it means to lay the foundation of the earth?"

Just as you people change the word FIRSTBORN to mean FIRSTCREATED just to suit your demonic doctrines. You also did the same to mean laying foundation of the earth means creation of the earth.

Now, you finally dance to the tune of how earth was prepared

If the waters was founded first it means, something happened before the foundation was laid....which is the bone of contention here.... LAYING FOUNDATIONS

This is from your own word "Are you blind ? Earth wasn't made until foundations were marked in verse 29 which is what Job mentioned"

Now which earth are you referring to here, the one created in General 1:1 or the dry land called earth as you mentioned below?




I've told you how Job 38 is all about preparation of earth created IN THE BEGINNING to be habitable because it's just focus on earth not about creation that's why I even went deep in contraction of Prov 8 with Job to show you how both explain different scenarios just that you're too brainwashed and blindfolded to reality.

So I'll ask again, which earth are you referring to in Job 38, the one created at the BEGINNING or the dry land prepared called EARTH?

Guy you no get work? Stop arguing with these hungry fellows abeg.

Very hungry and deluded. Let's do giveaway so they will stop typing rubbish from their infinix and tecno phones lol

freshboi88:


But then didn't Jesus lose that position by right of appointment

Hope u can see Ur mumuness

Bros, please begin to dey use sense wey God give you.....

Please pay attention jejely.....

Genesis 49:3.
"Reuben, you are my firstborn; My might and the beginning of my strength, Preeminent in dignity and preeminent in power."

Jesus Christ is firstborn of EVERY CREATURE.
Every creature is a creation of God.
Therefore,Jesus is a creature.
(SCRIPTURAL sense from the Bible on point.)


Genesis 49:3 Every firstborn by right is Preeminent. Deuteronomy 21:16-17.
Jesus is Preeminent as Firstborn of EVERY creature.
Trinity fall yakata...

Daniel 7:13-14 Jesus the son of man was foretold to rule as king of God's kingdom forever.

2Samuel7:12,16 Yahweh promised David's sons will inherit his throne forever.

Matt1:1 , Luke 1:31-33. Jesus, the son of David is the promised king, the son of God to inherit king David's throne forever. Rev 3:21.

King David's throne is Yahweh's throne., which king Solomon occupied by APPOINTMENT as David's Firstborn.1 Chronicle 29:23.

If you call Jesus king David's Firstborn , you are not wrong. Solomon was not king David's Firstborn but was APPOINTED as firstborn to rule on David's throne.

No Pastor can teach you this truth.. Na your pockets dey wanna empty..

Emusan:


If not because your brain is paining you, you realized that being the firstborn doesn't really mean the first person given birth to, yet you want Jesus Christ "firstborn" to automatically be FIRSTCREATED....what a delusion!

The question you people don't like to even answer is:

There is a word in Greek for FIRSTCREATED, why didn't apostle Paul use this word instead of confusing us with the word FIRSTBORN?

From all indications, you people know that the word FIRSTBORN has no link with FIRSTCREATED that's why you people have being coming with different theories.

Emusan wan write him own Bible on NL


Bros, please begin to dey use sense wey God give you..... grin

Please pay attention jejely.....

Genesis 49:3.
"Reuben, you are my firstborn; My might and the beginning of my strength, Preeminent in dignity and preeminent in power."

Jesus Christ "is firstborn of EVERY CREATURE."
Every CREATURE is a creation of God.
Therefore,Jesus is a creature. Col 1:15.
(SCRIPTURAL sense from the Bible on point.)


Genesis 49:3 Every firstborn is Preeminent by right. Deuteronomy 21:16-17.
Jesus is Preeminent as Firstborn of EVERY creature. Jesus is a creature.
Trinity fall yakata...


Emusan RECEIVE SENSE

Barristter07:
So they owned what they penned ?
To claim authorship of something u must be the brain behind it.

Satan is really playing with your mind.

Do you call them authors?

Lying liar....

Idiot....what is the meaning of Author?

Job 38 refer to PLANET Earth . emphasis on " Founded the earth " " Set it's measurement " " sunk its pedestals " " its cornerstone "

And when we talk about Earth , Earth is 70% water . so there is no way we will discuss how God formed the earth that the sea won't come into discussion. Job 38:8 noted that after the water were formed, God set a limit for it.


" When the ocean was born, I set its boundaries " Job 38:8

So its not just dry land., but formation of the planet itself.

Clearly the angels witness The whole thing which shows they exist before the planet.

Let me put end to this lies....as everyone can see that a liar truly has no shame!

Now your tune has changed from from FOUNDATION means creating the earth to there's no how discussing how earth is formed without discussing how the sea comes about.

I first told you that earth was long created before preparation for habitation took place but you keep perambulating and dying in your delusions.

Here it is:

First look at this quote from your demonic organization "1. In the Bible account, each of the six creative days could have lasted for thousands of years.

2. God had already created the universe, including a lifeless planet Earth, by the time the first creative day began.

3. Evidently the six creative days were long periods during which Jehovah God prepared the earth for human habitation.

From the untold story of creation....

Let's centered on point 2&3;
Firstly, this short article shows how a liar like can go to any length to keep lying.

Secondly, point 2 clearly stated that UNIVERSE and A LIFELESS PLANET EARTH were ALREADY CREATED by the time the SIX CREATIVE DAYS BEGAN

Thirdly, from the point2 above it shows you don't know your Bible to the extent that you're even going against the teaching of your confused organization.

Fourthly, point3 supported my initial statement of how God prepared earth to be habitable which is what Job 38 is describing.

Now, it's evident from your confused organization that the event of Gen 1:1 wasn't part of the SIX CREATIVE DAYS which means Gen 1:1 actually took place as the Bible said "In the BEGINNING God created heavens and the earth"

And going by the above article, since thousands of years would have passed, then Angels would've been created after Heavens and the earth were created in the beginning before they shouted for joy when God was preparing it.

This is plausible because created being needs a space to occupy that's why God first created heavens and the earth, which debunked your initial claimed that both Jesus and the angels joined God in ETERNITY after being created which is the most ridiculous statement ever.

IN SUMMARY!
1. Job 38 couldn't fit into the description of Gen 1:1 because even your own organization said what God first created is a LIFELESS PLANET EARTH

2. Job 38 failed to talk about creation of heavens along earth something that Prov 8 did.

3. From above evidences, Gen 1:1 was actually correct what was first created IN the BEGINNING were HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.

4. So, since it was heavens and the earth that was first created IN THE BEGINNING then it means you got the interpretation of Rev 3:14 wrong. Both Jesus and heavens and the earth can't be created IN THE BEGINNING!

5. Lastly, you lied that it was foundation that means earth was created, when if we follow what your organization explained above, one can see that THE SIX CREATIVE DAYS were ONLY MEANT FOR THE PREPARATION of habitable earth. Which means, Gen 1:1 is a done deal and forgotten issue!

In attached are the evidences of your lies....

@ Emusan your last post was really EXHAUSTIVE summary........following from the start when you joined the discussion up till that post.

Well dont blame the JWS if they can't fully COMPREHEND what the GB of the organization says, they are ONLY following the INSTRUCTION and the command of the GB. Its kind of SAD that you picked out so many things out of the numerous ARTICLES and PUBLICATION they give OUT on daily BASIS which they THEMSELVES don't really READ and don't UNDERSTAND. I want to believe you know WHY........

Here it is as a reminder

1.
"In Jehovah's organization it is not necessary to spend a lot of time and energy in RESEARCH, for there are brothers in the organization who are ASSIGNED to that very THING, …"Watchtower 1967 Jun 1 p.338

From the above it is clear that EVEN to RESEARCH what the ORGANIZATION itself PUBLISH is UNNECESSARY.

2.
km9/07p.3 Question Box
Does"the faithful and discreet slave" endorse independent groups of Witnesses whom meet together to engage in scriptural research or debate?—Matt.24:45, 47.

No, it does not.

There you have it, that is why you see them flogging a dead horse simply because someone up there has not told them ..........."LOOK THAT HORSE IS DEAD" even when every passerby look and SMH at them to SIGNIFY that the HORSE is DEAD

3.

discussing how Witnesses should react toward what they read in Watch Tower publications, Watchtower February 1, 1952,which states inpages 79, 80...........

. . . let us not try to take over the slave’s duties. WE SHOULD EAT and DIGEST and ASSIMILATE what is SET BEFORE us, WITHOUT SHYING away from PARTS of the FOOD because it MAY NOT SUIT the FANCY of our MENTAL TASTE. The truths we are to publish are the ones provided through the discreet slave organization, not SOME PERSONAL OPINIONS contrary to what the slave has provided as timely food.

You see again EVEN if the PART of the FOOD will make them MENTALLY DISEASED or MENTALLY UNSTABLE like one of them used to qualify me in TIMES past. They must not SHY AWAY. They are to GULP it DOWN without questions asked.


4.
Since Jehovah God and Jesus Christ COMPLETELY TRUST the faithful and discreet slave, should we not do the same?” Watchtower 2009 Feb 15 p.27

The above is where the WHOLE problems unravel God cannot contradict what he has WARNED about. How can GOD tell us to COMPLETELY TRUST MAN when he equally said WE SHOULD NOT TO DO SO?

Psalms146: 3 Do not TRUST in PRINCES, In MORTAL MAN, in whom there is no SALVATION.

Emusan:


Do you call them authors?

Lying liar....

Idiot....what is the meaning of Author?

The bible has only one source . all the men that penned it were medium through which this was done.

" Forty Writers, One Author "

They are just secretaries .

Likewise There is only one source of creation, The Father from whom all things came , Christ is just a medium through as well.

Your brain dead analysis exposed

Let me put end to this lies....as everyone can see that a liar truly has no shame!

Now your tune has changed from from FOUNDATION means creating the earth to there's no how discussing how earth is formed without discussing how the sea comes about.

I first told you that earth was long created before preparation for habitation took place but you keep perambulating and dying in your delusions.

Here it is:

First look at this quote from your demonic organization "1. In the Bible account, each of the six creative days could have lasted for thousands of years.

2. God had already created the universe, including a lifeless planet Earth, by the time the first creative day began.

3. Evidently the six creative days were long periods during which Jehovah God prepared the earth for human habitation.

From the untold story of creation....

Let's centered on point 2&3;
Firstly, this short article shows how a liar like can go to any length to keep lying.

Secondly, point 2 clearly stated that UNIVERSE and A LIFELESS PLANET EARTH were ALREADY CREATED by the time the SIX CREATIVE DAYS BEGAN

Thirdly, from the point2 above it shows you don't know your Bible to the extent that you're even going against the teaching of your confused organization.

Fourthly, point3 supported my initial statement of how God prepared earth to be habitable which is what Job 38 is describing.

Now, it's evident from your confused organization that the event of Gen 1:1 wasn't part of the SIX CREATIVE DAYS which means Gen 1:1 actually took place as the Bible said "In the BEGINNING God created heavens and the earth"

And going by the above article, since thousands of years would have passed, then Angels would've been created after Heavens and the earth were created in the beginning before they shouted for joy when God was preparing it.

This is plausible because created being needs a space to occupy that's why God first created heavens and the earth, which debunked your initial claimed that both Jesus and the angels joined God in ETERNITY after being created which is the most ridiculous statement ever.

IN SUMMARY!
1. Job 38 couldn't fit into the description of Gen 1:1 because even your own organization said what God first created is a LIFELESS PLANET EARTH

2. Job 38 failed to talk about creation of heavens along earth something that Prov 8 did.

3. From above evidences, Gen 1:1 was actually correct what was first created IN the BEGINNING were HEAVENS AND THE EARTH.

4. So, since it was heavens and the earth that was first created IN THE BEGINNING then it means you got the interpretation of Rev 3:14 wrong. Both Jesus and heavens and the earth can't be created IN THE BEGINNING!

5. Lastly, you lied that it was foundation that means earth was created, when if we follow what your organization explained above, one can see that THE SIX CREATIVE DAYS were ONLY MEANT FOR THE PREPARATION of habitable earth. Which means, Gen 1:1 is a done deal and forgotten issue!

In attached are the evidences of your lies....

Liar as usual , Quote where they said Angels were not created before planet earth. ?

You even went to quote the creative days when we are discussing making of the Planet earth itself.


Who told you Job 38 was for the six creative days ?

Verse 7 and 8 says the angels were there when the oceans were created . This refer to the making of planet earth itself . Job 38 is reffering to the period highlighted above .

" Angels were created in the distant past, before the earth existed. When God created the earth, the angels “began shouting in applause.”​—Job 38:​4-7. "

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/what-are-angels/

Emusan, you are from your Father the Devil. The same Devil even make you ascribe authorship of the Bible to humans

Emusan:


Only an ETERNAL BEING exists in ETERNITY proof me wrong first before your jumbo mombo....

And if you insist that both Jesus and Angels exist in eternity then it means they are all ETERNAL

These angels must be eternal beings because proof upon proof has been given that they were there when the planet earth was formed , even before the waters of earth where Genesis started . Your name is I G N O R A N C E