Emusan:


So Jesus wasn't the one who created everything anymore He was just a master worker...

I know you already know what it's about to hit you that's why you're playing a dubious play here....

And you lying people will be saying God created Jesus FIRST THEN USED JESUS TO CREATE EVERYTHING OTHER THINGS...

So what is the work of this Master worker? When it was God Himself that was creating everything according to Prov 8?

freshboi88:



This is not a matter of creation or no creation but the meaning of firstborn and what context God used it in Palsm 89:27.

Answer me when God called David his firstborn son did he mean david was the first son he created

Barristter07:
together with angels cos they exist before the beginning of Genesis .

More problems for you

freshboi88:


No it doesn't

Let's look at Palsm 89:27

27 I will make him my firstborn son,
the mightiest king on earth.

So if God made David his firstborn does it mean David was God's first creation?

Barristter07:


Anytime people in the scripture accomplished something by Power of the Father . he is always credited as the one doing it. Re visit your Sunday school classes .

Does that change the fact that proverb 8:22 proved the speaker was created ?

Barristter07:


But David is a created being ?

Emusan:


You're a liar....

Only eternal being can exist in eternity!

So to say both Jesus and even angels both join the Father in eternity means you lack understand.

Jozzy4:


But David na creation ba ?

Jozzy4:


But David na creation ba ?

Emusan:


You're a liar....

Only eternal being can exist in eternity!

So to say both Jesus and even angels both join the Father in eternity means you lack understand.

Emusan:


That's why I said you people lack scriptural understanding.

for God to make David His firstborn isn't because David was created FIRST but the preceding statement is the key here...."HIGHER THAN THE KING OF THE EARTH"

Which means the firstborn is in RANK or POSITION that's the same thing about Colossians to Jesus.

Barristter07:


Father , Jesus and the angels all existed before Genesis 1:1 , going by your logic the angels were not created too . if the angels are created before Genesis 1:1 , what stop Jesus from being created too ? Rememt the analysis is still there which you have been Dodging, Is an arch enemy a part of the enemies ?

Jozzy4:


Barrister so this guy ended up roasted again. Bros , Angels exist before Genesis 1:1. They are in eternity

Emusan:


That's why I said you people lack scriptural understanding.

for God to make David His firstborn isn't because David was created FIRST but the preceding statement is the key here...
."HIGHER THAN THE KING OF THE EARTH"

Which means the firstborn is in RANK or POSITION that's the same thing about Colossians to Jesus.

Emusan:


Only an ETERNAL BEING exists in ETERNITY proof me wrong first before your jumbo mombo....

And if you insist that both Jesus and Angels exist in eternity then it means they are all ETERNAL

freshboi88:


Why did God call David his firstborn son nah....come and answer me, abi u dey run, d question dey fear u

Barristter07:


Father , Jesus and the angels all existed before Genesis 1:1 , going by your logic the angels were not created too . if the angels are created before Genesis 1:1 , what stop Jesus from being created too ? Rememt the analysis is still there which you have been Dodging, Is an arch enemy a part of the enemies ?

freshboi88:



Hahaha....u have exposed them. I was getting there that's y I kept asking oga barrister questions and he is dodging it to cover their lies

Emusan:


You've said Jesus and angels joined the Father eternity which is pure lie....

Only eternal being exists in ETERNITY, true or false?

And where did you read it that angels were created before Genesis 1

Barristter07:


Is Heaven and earth not beginning again ni ?? O ma se o

Barristter07:


Emusan has answered cos he was higher than the Kings of the earth. And he himself is still a King.

Freshboi88 , Do you now also agree that the firstborn of creation is a creation too ?

Emusan:


It means you're a liar because a created being cant exist in eternity only an eternal being can.

You don't even see how this exposed your fraud that after Jesus was created he joined the Father in ETERNITY. What a useless statement!

freshboi88:


So if David is a creation and Jesus is a creation and both are firstborn, who is now the actual firstborn ?

Barristter07:


No it doesnt , you need to state where angels existed Before Genesis 1 ? #laughs

Barristter07:




So only the Father existed there before Genesis 1 ?

U need to be schooled again ?

Job 38:6,7 ... So where are they dwelling before Heaven and earth were created ?

Barristter07:


David is a firstborn as per King of the earth . Jesus is first born as per first created , Son of God.

Both both of them are children of God as per being His creation.

Barristter07:
No it doesnt , you need to state where angels existed Before Genesis 1 ? #laughs

freshboi88:


15The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together

Can u even see that this correlates with John 1 3-4. I told u the bible cannot lie. It doesn't contradict.

If all things have been creates through him and for him, that means Jesus been the first of these things was created through Jesus and for Jesus.......

Jesu!!!!....Jehovah witness will not kill me!!!!

Emusan:


All the ETERNAL BEING IN GODHEAD exists before Genesis 1

Olodo....
I know that's where you will rush to....

Job 38 is about how God prepared the earth to be habitable for man ....Gen 1 can't be wrong when it says "IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED HEAVENS AND THE EARTH"

Even your organization once said that Gen 1 could have happened billions of years before God prepared earth for man to live.

So in a nutshell, both Rev 3:24 and Gen 1:1 can't have two things happened IN THE BEGINNING at the same time.

Here you're a liar and the word of God is true!

Emusan:


Heaven and earth were created FIRST IN THE BEGINNING

God isn't a deluded person like you. He knows a created being needs a space to occupy.

That's why He created Heavens and the earth FIRST AT THE BEGINNING.

Only a liar like you will say, Created beings joined ETERNITY

Barristter07:


You make no sense

Why is Jesus called Son of God ?