RamessesIV:
Ehen I didn't want to sound sexist,but is very hard to see Nigerian women who share similar interest with me,so if am may ask what is your interest in this Benin vs Yoruba debate

Lol!

Seeing how tons and tons of misinformation is being spread here.

And it's NOT only the Binis. Even the Yorubas too.

Notice what was happening on the other thread yesterday!

NB:
Kindly modify the aspect of your comment that has some personal information about me. Not a fan of publicity like that. Lol. Thanks.

I have modified my original. You can leverage on my modification.

Just wanted to confirm ohh,before they will accuse me of eurocentrism and following white history

ibn battuta moroccan berber adventurer and historian,dude suffered from real culture shock in india and mali dude couldn't stand that women didn't cover their breasts����,he was even linked with rise of puritan islamic/jihadist movement that spread over west africa.

TAO11:


Oh just seeing this.

An Arab by the name Ibn Battûta!

RamessesIV:
Just wanted to confirm ohh,before they will accuse me of eurocentrism and following white history

ibn battuta moroccan berber adventurer and historian,dude suffered from real culture shock in india and mali dude couldn't stand that women didn't cover their breasts����,he was even linked with rise of puritan islamic/jihadist movement that spread over west africa.

Lol!

Yeah the misinformation that's very true,people these days will believe in lies if it makes them feel good about their beliefs,culture or history is nice,am sorry to put you out there,just came to this app and so I tend to want to know those who I admire,anyways you write very well,only few people on this app show certain levels I admire though but you guys should tune it down on the abuse.ah ah

TAO11:

Lol!

Seeing how tons and tons of misinformation is being spread here.

And it's only the Binis. Even the Yorubas too.

Notice what was going happening on the other thread yesterday!

NB:
Kindly modify the aspect of your comment that has some personal information about me. Not a fan of publicity like that. Lol. Thanks.

RamessesIV:
Yeah the misinformation that's very true,people these days will believe in lies if it makes them feel good about their beliefs,culture or history is nice,am sorry to put you out there,just came to this app and so I tend to want to know those who I admire,anyways you write very well,only few people on this app show certain levels I admire though but you guys should tune it down on the abuse.ah ah

I know it gets really really low sometimes.

It's actually not my style to go that route, and you will notice that from my exchange on the other thread yesterday even when the "Hebrew" guy called me "ridiculous".

But sometimes I am just forced to respond in kind if I notice it to be a recurring pattern from my interlocutor.

But I will look into that. Thanks for the advise!

No problem I think maybe is the Nigerian sha,we nigerians tend to be too abusive when people warned me about nairaland i thought they were joking,at least is better than arguing with white racists,africans and african-americans about history

TAO11:


I know it gets really really sometimes.

It's actually not my style to go that route, and you will notice that from my exchange on the other thread yesterday even when the "Hebrew" guy called me "ridiculous".

But sometimes I am just forced to respond in kind if I notice it to be a recurring pattern from my interlocutor.

But I will look into that. Thanks for the advise!

RamessesIV:
So this is a battle of supremacy then,i have noticed this with Nigerian ethnic groups too,I hear some Igbo tribes are part Edo some said they are fully Igbo,no one can tell anyone his history so I think is best we try to maintain peace and believe what ever origin story we want.

You're right. It has become one. What our SW people do is just begin provocative threads about how Benin is part of Yoruba. They want to dominate Southern Nigeria like Hausa Fulani wants to dominate Nigeria.

When you dispute it, it turns to insult from them. They will start putting questionable publications forward. Benin are very assured and confident of own culture and history. Why they will start claiming Benin and then throw insults when you refuse their version is pathetic.

They say Benin is only a few local governments, etc. Then let it be. Do not be attaching to it.

The fact Benin punches very highly in African history worldwide is giving some people headache. Benin doesn't even lobby anybody abroad. Oba of Benin doesn't go abroad travelling to former slaves. Benin has no slave diaspora.

Benin is one of very few Africans that didn't sell its people. Oba banned Benin people from buying or selling slaves of any tribe. Long long before 1807 that Britain banned slavery. That's how sophisticated Benin has been.

Why would that lady accuse Benin of inferiority? Nothing in our history would make us feel inferior to anyone.

I believe those attaching to us or deliberately denigrating Benin that are trying to boost own ego. It's bullies that have ego problem. Not those they are trying to bully.

During Oba Ewuare II coronation speech in 2016, he narrated Benin history briefly including Ekaladerhan. He also made it clear that we the Benins are not to tell others their version of their history. Effectively he was saying let everybody write own history. Many Yoruba monarchs were there. So I very much agree with you. They should mind their business and leave Benin history to Benin people.

So when once in a while a Benin person counters with a thread, they go wild.

AreaFada2:


You're right. What our SW people do is just begin provocative threads about how Benin is part of Yoruba...

Even this thread you're currently on is a living testimony against your claim.

I agree with you,but you must note people will claim superiority over people they share history with,even benin on this app are claiming some Igbo tribes,so i think is best we try and reconcile our differences,culture trend should be about sharing culture and history not arguing who is greater than who.

And Benin did sell slaves but not in high numbers and mostly from neighboring kingdoms,trade was highly monopolized and controlled by the oba and benin were isolationists so there was no need to participate heavily In the trans-saharan slave trade.

AreaFada2:


You're right. It has become one. What our SW people do is just begin provocative threads about how Benin is part of Yoruba. They want to dominate Southern Nigeria like Hausa Fulani wants to dominate Nigeria.

When you dispute it, it turns to insult from them. They will start putting questionable publications forward. Benin are very assured and confident of own culture and history. Why they will start claiming Benin and then throw insults when you refuse their version is pathetic.

They say Benin is only a few local governments, etc. Then let it be. Do not be attaching to it.

The fact Benin punches very highly in African history worldwide is giving some people headache. Benin doesn't even lobby anybody abroad. Oba of Benin doesn't go abroad travelling to former slaves. Benin has no slave diaspora.

Benin is one of very few Africans that didn't sell its people. Oba banned Benin people from buying or selling slaves of any tribe. Long long before 1807 that Britain banned slavery. That's how sophisticated Benin has been.

Why would that lady accuse Benin of inferiority? Nothing in our history would make us feel inferior to anyone.

I believe those attaching to us or deliberately denigrating Benin that are trying to boost own ego. It's bullies that have ego problem. Not those they are trying to bully.

During Oba Ewuare II coronation speech in 2016, he narrated Benin history briefly including Ekaladerhan. He also made it clear that we the Benins are not to tell others their version of their history. Effectively he was saying let everybody write own history. Many Yoruba monarchs were there. So I very much agree with you. They should mind their business and leave Benin history to Benin people.

So when once in a while a Benin person counters with a thread, they go wild.

AreaFada2:

... Benin is one of very few Africans that didn't sell its people. Oba banned Benin people from buying or selling slaves of any tribe. Long long before 1807 that Britain banned slavery. That's how sophisticated Benin has been...

Your claim that Bini didn't participate in slave trade is false just like anything you say.

Bini participated in slave trade.

Bini also reserved its own open as food to Yoruba gods.

Stop lying, and I will stop going hard!

AreaFada2:


You're right. It has become one. What our SW people do is just begin provocative threads about how Benin is part of Yoruba. They want to dominate Southern Nigeria like Hausa Fulani wants to dominate Nigeria.

When you dispute it, it turns to insult from them. They will start putting questionable publications forward. Benin are very assured and confident of own culture and history. Why they will start claiming Benin and then throw insults when you refuse their version is pathetic.

They say Benin is only a few local governments, etc. Then let it be. Do not be attaching to it.

The fact Benin punches very highly in African history worldwide is giving some people headache. Benin doesn't even lobby anybody abroad. Oba of Benin doesn't go abroad travelling to former slaves. Benin has no slave diaspora.

Benin is one of very few Africans that didn't sell its people. Oba banned Benin people from buying or selling slaves of any tribe. Long long before 1807 that Britain banned slavery. That's how sophisticated Benin has been.

Why would that lady accuse Benin of inferiority? Nothing in our history would make us feel inferior to anyone.

I believe those attaching to us or deliberately denigrating Benin that are trying to boost own ego. It's bullies that have ego problem. Not those they are trying to bully.

During Oba Ewuare II coronation speech in 2016, he narrated Benin history briefly including Ekaladerhan. He also made it clear that we the Benins are not to tell others their version of their history. Effectively he was saying let everybody write own history. Many Yoruba monarchs were there. So I very much agree with you. They should mind their business and leave Benin history to Benin people.

So when once in a while a Benin person counters with a thread, they go wild.

Ovbioba!!!
Ughator otemwen.


We all know the tribe who has inferiority complex. They are dominated by children of returnee slaves who are bent on re-writing history. It all started with those who had no surnames but had to adopt English/Portugues surnames.

To summarize what Ogidigan said during his coronation "tell your history and let me tell mine".

We gave them a Prince who became their god.

Edo orisiagbon!!!

RamessesIV:
Yes even i am aware of it is just i came here and the supremacy argument is surprising

Am not discrediting myths,I just make sure they are highly scrutinzed,you know in Nigeria we didn't have our own written records,and our architecture is gone,arhcealogy is very poor so that's why I tend to be skeptical of african myths,and with the rise of afrocentrism taking over credible history I tend to be skeptical

Talking of ancient floods,the jewish flood myths is probable gotten from ancient mesopotamians mythology as part of the fertile crescent suffered great flooding that affected agriculture and production,archealogisy has found out that the mesopotamian myth is way too similar to the one found in the hebrew bible,and the fact mesopotamia pre-dates canaanites and jews and its influence makes it plausible

Indeed you're esan

Lol

And what's that suppose to mean���

gregyboy:


Indeed you're esan

Lol

RamessesIV:
And what's that suppose to mean���

Lol, like you dont know

If I knew i wouldn't have asked would I

gregyboy:



Lol, like you dont know

TAO11:


Your claim that Bini didn't participate in slave trade is false just like anything you say.

Bini participated in slave trade.

Bini also reserved its own open as food to Yoruba gods.

Stop lying, and I will stop going hard!

Wow! Delusion of grandeur is real here. So just you have monopoly over truth? Do you ascribe that your being a saint, better education, going through better universities, better interaction with well informed people or experience? What exactly do you base that on?

I cannot be explaining to every new upstart and new tribal zealot. I have been through all these with your predecessors over the years here.

A French explorer and trader Monsieur Randolphe narrated that on his way from Benin City to Gwatto Port, of about 100 slaves on sale along the way, both slaves and their sellers were either Igbo or Yoruba. Chief Ezomo with thousands of strong healthy soldiers had already rebuffed his attempt to buy from among the soldiers. Telling him Oba prohibits slavery of Benin people.

Oba only reluctantly granted request of other tribes in the empire, notably Igbo & Yoruba to sell themselves.

When slave trade to the Americas took off fully by late 1600s early 1700s, Benin had banned slavery already. Note that was the time Oyo empire really took off.

Some say Oba supported Eleko Kosoko, so he supported slave trade. Slave trade matter had been devolved to territories already. So long no Benin man is bought or sold. Oba supported his loyalist Eleko Kosoko against Akitoye that turned out to be a British puppet as Benin anticipated.

Years back someone uploaded by chance a European document that registered the slave origins in Africa. It supported my claim for years prior that Benin banned slavery long before it became lucrative. I have also written over the years here about the role my family played in enforcing slave ban.

As for sacrifices to gods, it's obvious you just want to be offensive. Good that your mask of pseudo-intellectualism falls off so easily for all to see.

Anyway, I write epistles here for wise, discerning and objective yet silent readers to see. Not really to reply provocative posters.

TAO11:


Your claim that Bini didn't participate in slave trade is false just like anything you say.

Bini participated in slave trade.

Bini also reserved its own open as food to Yoruba gods.

Stop lying, and I will stop going hard!

Going hard? Who will bother telling an agbero or an aghbaya to stop going hard? Causing offence is in the DNA.

TAO11:


Your claim that Bini didn't participate in slave trade is false just like anything you say.

Bini participated in slave trade.

Bini also reserved its own open as food to Yoruba gods.

Stop lying, and I will stop going hard!

Well, many said this before you. And years ago European records of origins of slaves was uploaded here by someone by chance. Lo and behold no Benin. Look I cannot be engaging every upstart here. I have argued this over 9 years with your predecessors. I have also written on the role my family played in enforcing slave ban. I cannot be explaining to every new tribal zealot.
I do not no where you learned your vocabulary. Do you ban something that never existed?

By the time slavery to the Americas took off properly, Benin had banned slavery.
What Benin allowed was the request of non-Benins within Benin Empire to sell themselves. Predominantly Igbo and Yoruba. A

RamessesIV:
Just wanted to confirm ohh,before they will accuse me of eurocentrism and following white history

ibn battuta moroccan berber adventurer and historian,dude suffered from real culture shock in india and mali dude couldn't stand that women didn't cover their breasts����,he was even linked with rise of puritan islamic/jihadist movement that spread over west africa.

There's nobody I envy more than Ibn Battuta though
Dude was Mr. Worldwide

Born2Breed:


Ovbioba!!!
Ughator otemwen.


We all know the tribe who has inferiority complex. They are dominated by children of returnee slaves who are bent on re-writing history. It all started with those who had no surnames but had to adopt English/Portugues surnames.

To summarize what Ogidigan said during his coronation "tell your history and let me tell mine".

We gave them a Prince who became their god.

Edo orisiagbon!!!

Then you reduce history to mere storytelling

Yes bro,he gave an non-european view of the ancient world,but dude flexed sha,and was able to do all that with his wit,I believe is the nomadic berber life style that made him able to tour such far distance,even marco polo was an influential venitian in kublai khans court

macof:

There's nobody I envy more than Ibn Battuta though
Dude was Mr. Worldwide

AreaFada2:

Well, many said this before you. And years ago European records of origins of slaves was uploaded here by someone by chance. Lo and behold no Benin. Look I cannot be engaging every upstart here. I have argued this over 9 years with your predecessors. I have also written on the role my family played in enforcing slave ban. I cannot be explaining to every new tribal zealot.
I do not no where you learned your vocabulary. Do you ban something that never existed?

By the time slavery to the Americas took off properly, Benin had banned slavery.
What Benin allowed was the request of non-Benins within Benin Empire to sell themselves. Predominantly Igbo and Yoruba. A

Whether or not Benin Kingdom sold its own people is not what I am defending.

I do know for sure, however, that Benin Kingom had the habit of reserving its own people as food to Yoruba gods.

That probably explains why it may not have sold its own people if it truly didn't.

Moreover, there is historical evidence that some of the war prisoners sold by the Yorubas were prisoners captured from Benin Kingdom.

AreaFada2:

Going hard? Who will bother telling an agbero or an aghbaya to stop going hard? Causing offence is in the DNA.

Is this the Bini way of saying: "I have vowed never to stop lying".

AreaFada2:


Wow! Delusion of grandeur is real here. So just you have monopoly over truth? Do you ascribe that your being a saint, better education, going through better universities, better interaction with well informed people or experience? What exactly do you base that on?

I cannot be explaining to every new upstart and new tribal zealot. I have been through all these with your predecessors over the years here.

A French explorer and trader Monsieur Randolphe narrated that on his way from Benin City to Gwatto Port, of about 100 slaves on sale along the way, both slaves and their sellers were either Igbo or Yoruba. Chief Ezomo with thousands of strong healthy soldiers had already rebuffed his attempt to buy from among the soldiers. Telling him Oba prohibits slavery of Benin people.

Oba only reluctantly granted request of other tribes in the empire, notably Igbo & Yoruba to sell themselves.

When slave trade to the Americas took off fully by late 1600s early 1700s, Benin had banned slavery already. Note that was the time Oyo empire really took off.

Some say Oba supported Eleko Kosoko, so he supported slave trade. Slave trade matter had been devolved to territories already. So long no Benin man is bought or sold. Oba supported his loyalist Eleko Kosoko against Akitoye that turned out to be a British puppet as Benin anticipated.

Years back someone uploaded by chance a European document that registered the slave origins in Africa. It supported my claim for years prior that Benin banned slavery long before it became lucrative. I have also written over the years here about the role my family played in enforcing slave ban.

As for sacrifices to gods, it's obvious you just want to be offensive. Good that your mask of pseudo-intellectualism falls off so easily for all to see.

Anyway, I write epistles here for wise, discerning and objective yet silent readers to see. Not really to reply provocative posters.

Chief ezomo with his slaves

macof:

Then you reduce history to mere storytelling

Lol!!!!

What is the first meaning of history before delving into chronological records?

gregyboy:


Chief ezomo with his slaves

Slaves would not be wearing beads on their neck. They are his courtiers. Of old Oliha, Edohen, Ezomo, Ero and other UZAMA chiefs had own palace courts. Almost like dukes or Enogie in provinces.

Of course in more ancient times they had war captives as slaves. These slaves did mainly domestic and farming work.

AreaFada2:

Slaves would not be bewearing beads on their neck. They are his courtiers. Of old Oliha, Edohen, Ezomo, Edo and other UZAMA chiefs had own palace court. Almost like dukes or Enogie in provinces.

Of course in more ancient times they had war captives as slaves. These did mainly domestic and farming work.

Ok, then that handfan are not indegeneously igbo

AreaFada2:


Wow! Delusion of grandeur is real here. So just you have monopoly over truth? Do you ascribe that your being a saint, better education, going through better universities, better interaction with well informed people or experience? What exactly do you base that on?

I cannot be explaining to every new upstart and new tribal zealot. I have been through all these with your predecessors over the years here.

A French explorer and trader Monsieur Randolphe narrated that on his way from Benin City to Gwatto Port, of about 100 slaves on sale along the way, both slaves and their sellers were either Igbo or Yoruba. Chief Ezomo with thousands of strong healthy soldiers had already rebuffed his attempt to buy from among the soldiers. Telling him Oba prohibits slavery of Benin people.

Oba only reluctantly granted request of other tribes in the empire, notably Igbo & Yoruba to sell themselves.

When slave trade to the Americas took off fully by late 1600s early 1700s, Benin had banned slavery already. Note that was the time Oyo empire really took off.

Some say Oba supported Eleko Kosoko, so he supported slave trade. Slave trade matter had been devolved to territories already. So long no Benin man is bought or sold. Oba supported his loyalist Eleko Kosoko against Akitoye that turned out to be a British puppet as Benin anticipated.

Years back someone uploaded by chance a European document that registered the slave origins in Africa. It supported my claim for years prior that Benin banned slavery long before it became lucrative. I have also written over the years here about the role my family played in enforcing slave ban.

As for sacrifices to gods, it's obvious you just want to be offensive. Good that your mask of pseudo-intellectualism falls off so easily for all to see.

Anyway, I write epistles here for wise, discerning and objective yet silent readers to see. Not really to reply provocative posters.

Schooling 'em kids as usual.

Thumbs up!!!

AreaFada2:


Wow! Delusion of grandeur is real here. So just you have monopoly over truth? Do you ascribe that your being a saint, better education, going through better universities, better interaction with well informed people or experience? What exactly do you base that on?

I cannot be explaining to every new upstart and new tribal zealot. I have been through all these with your predecessors over the years here.

A French explorer and trader Monsieur Randolphe narrated that on his way from Benin City to Gwatto Port, of about 100 slaves on sale along the way, both slaves and their sellers were either Igbo or Yoruba. Chief Ezomo with thousands of strong healthy soldiers had already rebuffed his attempt to buy from among the soldiers. Telling him Oba prohibits slavery of Benin people.

Oba only reluctantly granted request of other tribes in the empire, notably Igbo & Yoruba to sell themselves.

When slave trade to the Americas took off fully by late 1600s early 1700s, Benin had banned slavery already. Note that was the time Oyo empire really took off.

Some say Oba supported Eleko Kosoko, so he supported slave trade. Slave trade matter had been devolved to territories already. So long no Benin man is bought or sold. Oba supported his loyalist Eleko Kosoko against Akitoye that turned out to be a British puppet as Benin anticipated.

Years back someone uploaded by chance a European document that registered the slave origins in Africa. It supported my claim for years prior that Benin banned slavery long before it became lucrative. I have also written over the years here about the role my family played in enforcing slave ban.

As for sacrifices to gods, it's obvious you just want to be offensive. Good that your mask of pseudo-intellectualism falls off so easily for all to see.

Anyway, I write epistles here for wise, discerning and objective yet silent readers to see. Not really to reply provocative posters.

The thing about delusions of grandeur is that you exhibit those traits without realizing it thinking those are simply normal within your right.

Imagine telling an Igbo man or Yoruba man that his kingdom was ruled by your Oba, and yet you think you aren't battling delusions of grandeur.


Regarding slavery, the truth is that, the practice of slavery is well established in human history.

It is a practice that predates the Atlantic slave trade. And it is part of African history --- be it Yoruba or Bini.

So, your talk of sophistication is cheap since the same kingdom which you claimed was reluctant in selling its own people will still end up beheading them as food to Yoruba gods.

It then becomes quite fairly established that the motive for keeping them from being sold (if that's an historical fact) is far far away from been a humanitarian feat.

On the other hand, what I will be more prepared to describe as sophistication in a world where slavery is a historical reality is the establishment of a working system that puts in place extremely stringent conditions that must be met before any citizen can be condemned as inventory of the trade.

And this is true of the Yorubas as the Yorubas had three basic categories of inventory of the trade, namely:

(1) Prisoners of War.
(2) Hardened criminals.
(3) Slaves of the Yorubas bought from the Nupe, the Borgu, and the Hausa.

And regarding the 1st, a very very insignificant portion of this inventory is of Yoruba descent, and the reason for this is borne from the fact that during the most active period of the Atlantic trade (i.e. from the 1500s to the mid-1700s), Yorubaland in general was relatively peaceful throughout most of this period.

So the prisoners largely came from captives from outside of Yorubaland particularly the Nupe, the Bariba, and the Aja --- products of the Oyo wars of expansion.

Other captives are the results of Ibadan raids in parts of Benin Kingdom, and elsewhere.

Regarding the 2nd, most Yoruba governments came to establish the practice of authorizing the sale of hardened criminals who were embarrassments to their lineages and have been renounced by them.

Richard Lander noted an age-old practice during (one of his visits to the Oyo capital) of dealing with such hardened criminals. They were to be inflicted with terrible incisions over their facial marks thus irreversibly disfiguring them.

This becomes a notice to society that the man had been rejected, renounced, and expunged by his lineage. Such people would usually run away to a distant place, but even there he would suffer life-long rejection and scorn and die miserably.

With the coming of the Atlantic slave trade, such persons were authorized to be sold, but again their number were on the whole small.

In sum, Yorubas didn't go the hypocritical route of no we won't sell our people when in fact a worse evil is the sole purpose of keeping them.

No, on the contrary we have simply long developed conventions and systems with stringent conditions that must be met before any citizen can be condemned as inventory of the trade.

Having said that, the age-long attitude of the Yoruba to a slave (be it a Yoruba or a non-Yoruba slave) is that the slave is treated as fairly as possible with basic human rights.

This attitude is almost similar to our modern-day Geneva and Hay conventions on how war-prisoners are to be accorded some fair treatment and some basic human right.

For example, ancient Yoruba customs consider it a serious crime to kill a slave or subject a slave to life-threatening treatment.

In fact, the universal fear of hurting an eru (slave) is illustrated in the dire warning expressed in the words of the following old Ife folk song:

*Mo nre 'le o ---> I must now take my leave for my house.

*Oku Ole ---> You terrible fool of a coward.

*O b'eru ja? ---> You dare contemplate fighting an eru (slave)!?

*B' eru ba ku sio lorun ---- If the eru (slave) dies by your hand.

*K' o a ti se? ---- How would you deal with the consequence?

Now, all the foregoing is what may be regarding as actual and real sophistication --- not some hypocritical self-serving double standard which we see in the Bini practice.

Cheers!

cc: macof MetaPhysical nisai babtoundey

TAO11:

Whether or not Benin Kingdom sold its own people is not what I am defending.

I do know for sure, however, that Benin Kingom had the habit of reserving its own people as food to Yoruba gods.

That probably explains why it may not have sold its own people if it truly didn't.

Moreover, there is historical evidence that some of the war prisoners sold by the Yorubas were prisoners captured from Benin Kingdom.

Lolz


Even your ancestors are turning in their graves reading this blasphemy.

Born2Breed:


Lolz

Even your ancestors are turning in their graves reading this blasphemy.

"... some of the war prisoners sold by the Yorubas were prisoners captured from Benin Kingdom."

I knew those words right there would hurt you all really bad.

Anyways, let me know if you need some historical reference to the raids of Ibadan on parts of Benin Kingdom.

Cheers!

I cannot understand why some Binni people have a distain for Yoruba, eventhough they have a huge amount that we have in common.

Instead of you to swallow your pride and take your placw in history, some will try to thhrow unecessary tantrums.

If you feel so strong about not being connected to Yoruba, its very easy.

Go to the Nigerian Supreme Court and file a class action recinding all your cultural and linguistic ties to Yoruba; without that you just have to accept the facts and lets get on with our lives.

That being said, the slavetrade was invented by Arabs.

The history of slavery is a horrific campaign that lasted for over 2000 years.

Prior to the Arabian slavetrade, there was no such thing that existed on the African continent.

Slavery in the context of the African is tantamount to POW's. There was never ever a culture of slavery prior to the Arabian one.


Kindly, hear me out, i'm not here to defend anyone's neffaious activities, and that includes the Benin Kingdom but to make something absolutely clear, all the blame of the slave trades lies squarely at the feet of the Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentric warmongers.

The notion that Benin kingdom sold other Africans into to slavery is absurd and a diservice to history.

Noone is saying that certain rulers in the Benin Kingdom carries no blame, what we does know is that the traitors and defectors at that time have a diminished responsibility given the fact that they was tricked and that the Portugese carry all the blame.

There is a 2000 year history of slavery on the continent.

1)The Arabian also known as the The Transaharan

2)The Portuguese

3)The Transatlantic

All of these occured in the above particular order.

Its important to note that the history of slavery is tantamount to thr history of Christianity and Islam on the African continent.

How do we know that the Benin Kingdom have a diminished responsibility.

We know this because the culture of slavery is unAfrican, whereas the Portuguese made a career out of these type of criminal activities.


The notion that Africans sold other Africans into slavery is a narrative that we must refrain from pushing, if not for the sake of transparecy, then maybe we ought to think about potential reparations.


For instance, certain legal forces in the African Anerican sector are looking to take the US government to the World Court in order to claim there reparations.

The slavery that occured in Africa wasnt the same slavery that the Arabian fundementalist and Eurocentric warmongers practised.

African concept of slavery was tantamount to POW's

The Arabian fundamentalist and Eurocentrics version was demonic and sadistic.