omonnakoda:

It is clear you are completely ignorant of how drug trials work
The family doctor's trial had no comparator group, all patients were treated h with the same treatment with very obvious bias In his expectation, ie no null hypothesis testing Those treated had mild symptoms anyway and likely would have recovered without treatment,he was not blind to the treatment and scientifically his findings are one step above useless.

The Brazil clinical trial had two arms for a good reason which clearly is beyond you. However you are distorting the findings when you talk of "overdose " high dose is not the same thing as overdose at any rate even in the low dose group there was no evidence of significance.

You do not have the education to interpret this information and should leave it to experts.

There is no reason this would be suppressed in the US if it worked.

sonnie10:

Ok. Where exactly?

omonnakoda:

The simple fact is most people recover without treatment.
It is also a proven medical fact that if you take chalk or garri and make it I to a tablet and offer it as treatment a small number of patients will report improvements

teemy:

Hello dear, while the Brazilian test was done at 'higher' dozes leading to heart complications, they did not do a test that was within the range of what the 'family' doctor prescribed and with their 'findings' concluded it was not safe to use Chloroquine for Covid 19. At the very least, it should have beet 'at high dozes'.

They used 450mg, 900mg (450mg doubled on first day), 600mg. Compare that to the family doctor's 200mg. That is waaay higher.

TheGoodJoe:


I have no problem with China. They were fighting a war to save lives in their country.

I have a problem with WHO because they should have taking efficient protocols to protect other countries. It was madness allowing flights from China around the World.

Flights from China should have been grounded and if flights must take place, the people should have been Quarantined when they arrived the other countries. Then released after 14-21 days if they tested negative.

This protocol should have been championed by WHO than relying on reports from China that were battling a novel case.

kayrichy:
Japan..

Kobojunkie:


That some do recover without so much as a treatment is no reason to then prescribe a drugs of as legit cure without established evidence that it is in fact evidence.

The day after Trump announced his confidence in the use of the drug hydroxychloroquine, the very next day, a couple in Arizona decided to test the claim out. Only one of them survived and it was not simply an issue of overdose. The man and his wife both ingested the 'poison' but only the wife survived. Don't you think it would be stupid for the wife to proclaim the drug "safe" simply on the basis that she tested it and survived the ordeal?

omonnakoda:


All tested positive?

How do you know this?

sonnie10:

Good. I became interested when you talked about QT interval on abnormal EKG. Cardiology is part of what I do.
Would love to visit Japan after all these is over.
If you would, PM me.

SenecaTheYonger:
What amazes me is that the study for this treatment showed it worked better with Zinc, as Zinc is the primary compound in stopping the virus replication. But it's as if nobody reads this days and just use only chloroquine. kai.

omonnakoda:

The family doctor did not publish any data ,I stand to be corrected. Therefore we have no confirmation that he was treating coronavirus patients
His information cannot be considered scientific because
1. There was no control group I.e a comparison group that DID NOT RECEIVE TREATMENT
2. He was NOT BLIND to the treatment and so the likelihood of non blinding bias was high. Infact in some countries he could have lost his licence for this sort of behaviour I.e coming out to make claims without publishing data

TheGoodJoe:


Because he runs a testing centre and also treats patients from neighbouring centres.

kayrichy:
That would be a great..you could learn the basics of Japanese language on YouTube prior to your arrival...it would be of great help

teemy:

Hello dear, while the Brazilian test was done at 'higher' dozes leading to heart complications, they did not do a test that was within the range of what the 'family' doctor prescribed and with their 'findings' concluded it was not safe to use Chloroquine for Covid 19. At the very least, it should have beet 'at high dozes'.

They used 450mg, 900mg (450mg doubled on first day), 600mg. Compare that to the family doctor's 200mg. That is waaay higher. At the very least if they were trying to discredit Chloroquine in its entirety, they should at least do it right.

P.S Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine are FDA approved drugs

TheGoodJoe:


I also wonder why the zinc gets left out a lot. I think even in the trials.

omonnakoda:

That was not the question?


How do you know that the 600 patients given this cocktail tested positive for coronavirus.

HOW do YOU know.?

Did he publish any paper ?

SenecaTheYonger:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been noticing. This timeline is so bizzare.

BEEFIE:


as at January the virus was not known to be transmissible through air. it was thought to have been like Ebola. hence WHO didn't declared it as a pandemics just an outbreak

teemy:


Dr. Vladimir Zelenko is in a New York village of Kiryas Joel which is about an hour's drive to Manhattan. He is in the United States where he has the highest chance of getting de-licensed. Obviously, if he has lost his license by now, it would be an online sensation.

True, he is not following proper procedures but we must realize that we are all in uncharted waters here and people are dying daily. For every 4 people that got free of the coronavirus, there is one death. That is huge. Waiting for conventional steps would not cut it, still, common sense should be applied and proper testing should be done before addressing something as a sure cure.

The common info from Bauchi governor and Zelenko announcements is that there is a better chance using Chloroquine treatment if done early and as such can prevent deaths.

executive12:


Did you test the hiv drugs?

TheGoodJoe:


It is so clear.

TheGoodJoe:


So you think he treated people without coronavirus?

Did you read the treatment and regimen. It is for people who have tested positive to the virus.

He did not write that treatment for people who are free from it. And, he has treated over 600. The figures are even more.

BEEFIE:


as at January the virus was not known to be transmissible through air. it was thought to have been like Ebola. hence WHO didn't declared it as a pandemics just an outbreak

Kobojunkie:


Very irresponsible statements for a state governor to make.

RichDad1:
Is he a medical doctor?

omonnakoda:


What do you mean he has the highest chance of getting de-licensed in the US.

That we are In uncharted waters does not justify not keeping records
As a community doctor he was treating patients who did not need hospital care so there is no justification for taking extraordinary measures

He is not a virologist or specialist

when conducting experiments he MUST keep records INCLUDING records of TEST results
Also if he wants other doctors to adopt his findings he MUST have had a CONTROL group .
If you don't understand that what means then we are just wasting time here.
For a condition that is largely self limiting in those with mild symptoms which is what he claimed to be treating and which is reasonable to assume since they did not need Hospital care claiming unusual or extraordinary circumstances doesn't wash unless you are a hospital doctor.

COVID-19 patients on hydroxychloroquine heal faster, a Senegalese doctor has disclosed. Moussa Seydi, Head of the Infectious Diseases Department at Fann Hospital in Dakar made the announcement after 55 people had recovered from the virus.

“We have found out that patients undergoing treatment, especially under specific treatment such as hydroxychloroquine, heal faster.

“But as I said earlier, when it comes to science, observation alone is not enough, and extensive research is needed before a theory can be validated. But the results that we have seen reassure us and reassure my entire team and we will continue in this direction,” Seydi stressed.

Senegal has as of April 6, registered over 220 cases of COVID-19. Of those cases, 82 have recovered with two deaths. The first death was of Pape Diouf, a celebrated journalist and illustrious sports administrator who was once boss of French side, Olympique Marseille.

For Professor Didier Raoult, Director of the Méditerranée Infection Foundation at the Marseille University Hospital Centre in southern France, chloroquine has the potential to be a miracle cure against COVID-19. He administered it on 16 March 2020 to patients admitted to his department, at a dose of 600 mg of hydroxychloroquine per day, in combination with azithromycin (a macrolide antibiotic).

According to his results, six days later, only a quarter of patients still carried the virus, compared to 90% for patients who did not receive the same treatment. On 23 March, French Minister of Health Olivier Véran approved the use of chloroquine in hospitals to treat patients with the most severe forms of coronavirus.

SalamRushdie:


What is irresponsible about saying the truth ? chloroquine is 100 percent effective against the virus and the governor is a living testimony so are are thousands of other people yet because CNN has not authorized you to use your head you think it's Irresponsible for him to say it