Jozzy4:


Emusan , laughs



Isaiah 42:1 didn't say " my future servant "

He was servant even the present.

Grow up. The possesive MY says it all



When it was shared with them, In what Nature do they exist ?



Which Nature was shared with them ?

Once shared, in what form do those humans exist ?

Brain dead analogy Emusan .

Jozzy4:

laughs at your ignorance



Isaiah 42:1 didn't say " my future servant "

He was servant even the present.

Grow up. The possesive MY says it all

When it was shared with them, In what Nature do they exist?

Which Nature was shared with them ?

Once shared, in what form do those humans exist ?

Brain dead Jossy .

Barristter07:

Explain the below, if the highlighted makes sense to you:

"Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity " Hebrews 2:14

Does Jesus sharing humanity means he existed In that form ?

Emusan:



I'm so happy that you brought up this verse

This particular verse should open your eyes but I know it won't.

"He too shares in their HUMANITY" this can simply mean something you borrow and not FULLY YOURS....HE DIDN'T EXIST AS HUMAN BEFORE!

So to your question, Christ wasn't existed as human because he is not human in the first place and Phil 2 has told us the form He exists so He ONLY SHARES IN HUMANITY.

Emusan:


Despite the fact I explained that statement when you ignorantly claimed it was Past Tense, you can still spew this thrash...Truly there's is a pride in ignorance.



They are still human!

Their Nature didn't change unless you can proof further that, that's what the verse say.



They are still human their Nature didn't change!

Barristter07:

Emphasis on " Sharing is not existing in form " statement of yours

Likewise those Christians dont Exist as DIvine natures before they shared it . Was Jesus FULLY HUMAN ON EARTH ? Does his sharing Make him Exist in that humanity form ? That's the bone of contention here.

Emusan:


Despite the fact I explained that statement when you ignorantly claimed it was Past Tense, you can still spew this thrash...Truly there's is a pride in ignorance.

They are still human!

Their Nature didn't change unless you can proof further that, that's what the verse say.



They are still human their Nature didn't change!

Emusan:


May statement is that you share a form doesn't mean you exist in that FORM....

We exist as HUMAN that's is our FORM.

Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth because HE SHARES in humanity not that HE WAS HUMAN FROM BEGINNING.

Barristter07:


So they didn't share the DIVINE NATURE? the verse was a LIE ?

Emusan:


Share divine nature doesn't mean they change from being human because that's not what the verse is all about

Jozzy4:
Isaiah 42:1

" Look! My servant , whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved "

God would be lying to call him his servant if he wasn't at the point of writing that verse.

Coming from someone who believe Jesus can co- exist with man nature and God nature

Who is lying you or the bible ? It says clearly that they share Gods nature. So did scripture lied or what are you trying to prove?

Emusan:


Isaiah 42 is a prophetic verse which means foreseeing what will happen in the future.

Even the same thing happened in Malachi

Does that mean John the Baptist has started existing with God that time?

Olodo

Olodo!
Didn't that prove to you that Christ as God didn't change His nature which is my point here!

SHARE doesn't mean that is the FORM they exist.

Jozzy4:


Hahahahahaha Guy

But when Jesus share humanity he was human. Mr , Was the verse LYING they share Gods nature ?

Emusan:


This is the point you still failed to grab!

-He was not human from the beginning.
-When He shared humanity it didn't stop being God, He's nature of God remains what it is.

Jozzy4:
MY servant is not prophetic , it's a description of the chosen one.

So if you apply that it means those Christians didn't change their human nature yet are fully Of GODS NATURE ?

But Share in the case of Jesus means FORM he exist ? this tight corner wey u enter , na die.

So was that verse LYING that they share GODS NATURE ?

Jozzy4:


It was human nature that was called Nature of servant. Now you are learning.

Angels don't have human nature ( nature of a servant , But are they servants ? Question 1.

Question 2. Some humans by virtue of God sharing it , Also Possess the divine/GODS NATURE. ARE THEY EQUAL TO GOD ?

Answer both and let's see how valid your postulations are.

Emusan:


So My Servant was the only statement that chapter

Olodo....

Isaiah 42 is a prophetic statement and the fact that Present Perfect Tense was used which I've explained earlier proves you wrong.

You keep exposing your ignorance!

Whi says they are FULL OF GOD'S NATURE

Where did I say "share in the case of Jesus means FORM he exists?"

Jozzy4:


You have a long long long way to go.

Kid, Bible wasn't written in English, in its Hebrew original language. The same word appears for both mighty chief and mighty God.

El Gibboa.



Yahweh.

freshboi88:


Ansa 1:New International Version
Rev 22:9 But he said to me, "Don't do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your fellow prophets and with all who keep the words of this scroll. Worship God!"

The bible confirms that angels are essentially servants.....u can see the angel clearly rejecting been worshipped

Ansa 2: By the divine nature he means not the substance of the Godhead, but the partaking of those qualities, by which the image of God is restored in us.

In other words

that we "may become partakers of the divine nature," not that we are now.

To make it clearer to u. Even Jesus's human nature was a partaker of his Divine nature in that it was a resemblance or likeness of his Divine nature. In sense of imitating the virtue of his Divine nature. That's what that verse means.


So a similar verse makes it clearer to us

Hebrews 12:10; "That we might be partakers of his holiness."

To sum it all

To be partakers of the divine nature; does not imply essentially, or of the essence of God, so as to be deified, this is impossible, for the nature, perfections, and glory of God, are incommunicable to creatures.



How much u go pay for this lecture...c as scales dey fall commot Ur eye

freshboi88:


Who is Mighty God in that verse...and Ur here shouting El Gibboa like a mad dog.

Who is Mighty God in that verse...give me a name

Jozzy4:
Forget beginning, because even this Christians dont possess Gods nature from beginning. What matters is once someone share in something, they became FULLY part of it.

Jesus became Fully human when he shared in humanity, Do you agree this Christians are also FULLY GOD for sharing GODS NATURE ?

Emusan:


The point is the form that Christ existed from beginning didn't change when he shared in humanity.

The statement "What matters is once someone share in something, they became FULLY part of it." was yours not mine!

Your own is to prove to us that, that verse says THEY BECOME FULLY DIVINE NATURE



He became fully human while His original nature doesn't change which means the human nature was just like something borrowed I've said this before.


In the case of the Christians now where you'll see that they become FULLY God for sharing God's nature which I even said that's not what the verse was saying in the first place!

ublight:


this is one of the areas i cannot fault jw.

Jozzy4:
Rest man. U have no point

What u already possess is called " MY "

Jesus was equal to humans by virtue of his sharing , Do you accept this Christians too are EQUAL to God by their sharing?

" Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth because HE SHARES in humanity " Emusan

Do you accept Sharing in GODS NATURE make one FULLY GOD as well ?

Jozzy4:
Mr , Your logic is working here big Tyme .... You admitted Jesus partaking of human nature make him FULLY HUMAN, Do you also accept Partaking GODS NATURE make the Christians FULLY GOD ?

Emusan:


Then it means John the Baptist was already possessed then in heaven....

Is Isaiah 42 a prophetic statement or not?



Jesus existed as GOD from beginning, that is His form! Share in humanity can mean like adding something which doesn't change the existing one.



When I said Jesus was fully human on earth, did you know I said His original nature doesn't change? because you neglected that part.


Sharing in God's nature doesn't make you FULLY GOD

that's why Christ can't be said to be Human forever but Christ existed in form of God from beginning.

Emusan:


It makes Him fully human while HIS ORIGINAL FORM OR NATURE DIDN'T change because you're trying to remove that from my statement.

SHARING/PARTAKING doesn't change the existing form but to have PART which is the point both Heb 2:14 & 2peter 1 are making.

Only God can cure your delusions!

Emusan:


May statement is that you share a form doesn't mean you exist in that FORM....

We exist as HUMAN that's is our FORM.

Jesus was FULLY HUMAN on earth because HE SHARES in humanity not that HE WAS HUMAN FROM BEGINNING.

Jozzy4:


Calm down, we are saying the same thing. unless u mean Jesus was half human when she shared human nature .


@ bold , Partaking in human nature makes Jesus FULLY Human, Do u accept partaking in Gods nature make the Christians FULLY GOD ??

Barristter07:


Sharing in GODS NATURE make Christians FULLY GOD TOO!!! , Do you now accept they are equal to God ?

Rozz:
This my JW people can argue ehn,no wonder why most pastors will tell you to avoid them but I give it to them as they are most times somehow right