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Emusan:
The problem you're having is big, many translations reference Isa 42:1 with Phil 2:7

Why? Simply because it was that time when Christ became man that Isa 42 was fulfilled.

Just like I said if ordinary primary school English is difficult for you, how can you even understand scripture?


They are PARTAKERS/SHARE, they don't exist in that FORM

But Christ exists in God's form which only God existed.



Let me quote your own translation of Phil 2 so that it can cure your ignorance!

"who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human"

Even your own translation says "WAS EXISTING in God's FORM" and went further to say "but emptied himself and took a SLAVE'S FORM"

Which shows the state He was and the state He is now.



SHARE isn't EXISTING in that FORM

I even forgot you lack understand of basic English.

Jozzy4:
Emusan , laughs



Isaiah 42:1 didn't say " my future servant "

He was servant even the present.

Grow up. The possesive MY says it all



When it was shared with them, In what Nature do they exist ?



Which Nature was shared with them ?

Once shared, in what form do those humans exist ?

Brain dead analogy Emusan .

Emusan:
Share divine nature doesn't mean they change from being human because that's not what the verse is all about

Jozzy4:
Copy and paste guy, una well done.



They dont have servant nature BUT are servants . likewise Jesus .

Nowhere are angels said to take on nature of servants.



Copy and paste guy well done.

One simple question: Was Jesus fully human when he partake of humanity ?

Jozzy4:
Kid , El Gibboa appeared in those verses humans are called same.. That ENGLISH translators choose to say it differently DOESNT change that Fact.

Kid, you have a lot to learn

freshboi88:
They distort scripture...a verse says Mighty God. When I asked him who that Mighty God is...he said mighty chief

freshboi88:
They distort scripture...a verse says Mighty God. When I asked him who that Mighty God is...he said mighty chief

freshboi88:
Jesus was fully human. It was his choice to be servant.

Hebrews 12:10; "That we might be partakers of his holiness."

This verse gives a clear explanation so that heretics like u would not be able to manipulate scripture.

Bottom line Jesus existed in the form of God. Meaning he was God.

Rozz:
which one is mighty chief

freshboi88:
I have schooled them on the meaning of the verse

ublight:
u sound interesting. I would like to hear more of this ur doctrine, unfortunately i might end up making u disbelieve what u already believe.

Rozz:
which one is mighty chief again

Barristter07:
The scripture wasn't originally penned in English, do we agree ? Yes.

In Hebrew the word for Mighty God is " El Gibboa "

But again , the Hebrew writers use this same word for HUMAN beings , so most English translators use a different way to render it " Mighty Chiefs " or " Mighty Leaders " at Ezekiel 32:21. Instead of mighty God to avoid sounding polytheist ( believe in many Gods )


The point Jozzy4 was laying out to freshboi88 is that he shouldn't read too much into the word "Mighty God " because the that same original word was applied to humans , yet it doesnt mean they are equal to God Almighty, rather it simply means the Messiah is a mighty one.

Barristter07:

Jesus partaking of Humanity makes him FULLY HUMAN , But Christians partaking of GODS NATURE make them FULLY GOD , agree ?

Emusan:
Then it means John the Baptist was already possessed then in heaven....

Is Isaiah 42 a prophetic statement or not?



Jesus existed as GOD from beginning, that is His form! Share in humanity can mean like adding something which doesn't change the existing one.



When I said Jesus was fully human on earth, did you know I said His original nature doesn't change? because you neglected that part.

Sharing in God's nature doesn't make you FULLY GOD that's why Christ can't be said to be Human forever but Christ existed in form of God from beginning.

Janosky:
Yet Jesus Christ Fully God have ZERO knowledge of Matthew 24:36.

The DELUSION of triune pagan deity devotees is very fantastic

freshboi88:
Dnt mind these guys....the bible says Mighty God. But they feel they know better than the bible

freshboi88:
He was human

@Rozz @Janosky @Barristter07 @Maximus69 @Jozzy4



Palsm 102
25 Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of your hands.i
26 They will perish, but you will remain;
Just like a garment they will all wear out.
Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away.
27 But you are the same, and your years will never end.

Who was the palsmist referring to?......Jesus or Jehovah?

Janosky:
Freshboi done put himself for akobe....
I know where you dey go but akobe done catch you....

Freshboi answer this Questions:

Freshboi says "Jesus was human", is human nature more powerful than fully God ?

Freshboi says Jesus is "Fully God", the one @ Psalms 102:25-27, why does Fully God have ZERO knowledge of Matt 24:36?

Psalms 102:24, has "Jesus lived forever through out all generations"

freshboi88:
The answer u seek is embedded in Philippians 2:7. He emptied himself to take up human nature and of course was limited on knowledge (Luke 2:52)

When Mary and Joseph found Jesus in the Temple, Scripture says He went home with them and “increased in wisdom and stature” (Luke 2:52). He was able to grow in His human condition toward divine wholeness.

He knew all as God but could not access that in His active human consciousness.


So are u afriad to answer a question directly.

How was the psalmist referring to in palsm 102: 25-27

freshboi88:
He was able to grow in His human condition toward divine wholeness.

He knew all as God but could not access that in His active human consciousness.

sonmvayina:
funny you...i like to see you try..
there is no doctrine, all the creator intended for us is to obey laws and customs for us to have a more fruitful human experience..which includes taken care of mother earth..
any other thing is idolatry..which i dont want to be part of..

comprende?

Janosky:
Freshboi GIBBERISH.

Freshboi and Emusan says Jesus was fully God.
All powerful God limited by human nature....
Una GIBBERISH Na JUNK for dustbin.

Janosky:
Freshboi doesn't believe John 3:16-17... Yes, It Is CONFIRMED.

Philippians 2:7 = Galatians 4:4 & Romans 8:3

Freshboi, if your "Jesus Fully God" claim is true, is human nature more powerful than fully God?

Freshboi, why will "Jesus Fully God be limited in knowledge" of human beings you claimed himself created?

Freshboi says "God" no get knowledge He give His creatures..
This Trinitarians wayo bad gaan !!!!!

Romans 8:3
The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So[b] God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins.
[/b]
Freshboi says God sent himself to be born of a woman,
Galatians 4:4 & John 3:16-17 says Freshboi is a LIAR...

freshboi88:
New Living Translation
Philippians 2:7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges; he took the humble position of a slave and was born as a human being. When he appeared in human form,


You can shout like a mad dog all u can.....but u can never subvert the truth.

@ bolded says he gave up his divine privileges. And was born as man. This is the answer to this Ur baseless rant. So as man, just like any other man was limited and not all knowing.

I have answered Ur question. Whether it is acceptable to u or not is ur own headache.

I am not afriad to answer your questions so dnt be afraid to answer mine

freshboi88:
Palsm 102:

New World Translation
25 Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth,
And the heavens are the work of your hands.i
26 They will perish, but you will remain;
Just like a garment they will all wear out.
Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away.
27 But you are the same, and your years will never end.j

Who is the palsmist referring to?

Barristter07:
Sharing in GODS NATURE make Christians FULLY GOD TOO!!! , Do you now accept they are equal to God ?

Jozzy4:
But sharing in Human nature Make Christ FULLY HUMAN?

Do u see how u are speaking from both sides of your mouth. Its a shame on you

So Christ is no longer human ?

Janosky:
Psalm 90 :1
"Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. "

NO sinful woman can birth Almighty Yahweh .


Galatians 4:4
"But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law",


Olebwoy JUNK spoil your brain with MUMU virus.

Emusan:
I can see your ignorance here and the tactics you people are using to deviate from the main point.

But as usual I won't allow that to happen because that's how you people behave.

Christ sharing in humanity simply proves that THE FORM HUMAN WASN'T His original form but what He suddenly added.

So your point holds no water here!

As I even quoted your own translation ""who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God. No, but he emptied himself and took a slave’s form and became human" Phil 2:6-7 NWT

The point is very clear but only a liar and deluded person will give it another interpretation.

freshboi88:
No, partaking in divine nature doesn't mean we share the same essence with God.

This is clarified in Hebrew 10:21

For they indeed chastened for a few days, as seemed good to them; but he for profit, in order to the partaking of his holiness.

It only means imitating the virtues of God, working in righteouness. As opposed to been engolfed in the corruption that is in the world.

Emusan:
Since your brain capacity is too low to grab my point, what do you expect?

FULLY HUMAN and still RETAIN His nature...

Since you and your deluded brother didn't know what to say again you have to cling to ONLY FULLY HUMAN....

Christ was never a human but ONLY SHARE IN HUMANITY to achieve a purpose which Heb 2:14 emphasized on

"Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—the Son also became flesh and blood. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the devil, who had the power of death. Heb 2:14 NLT

I know your tiny brain won't still grab it, when you don't even know different between simple Past Tense and Present Perfect Tense.