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adontcare:
God is not mocked. What a man/ woman sow, that they will reap. Ask ur mum and dad what they did wrong. There must be something evil they had done that is affecting ur 42 yr brother. The bible said, train up a child in d way that he should grow and when he is old he will not depart from it. They where sparing the rod on him and now spoilt

Evil?

His acceptance of life could be an underlying factor... If he has a reason for going back, that's what needs to be checked. He isn't a child...Could be a choice

adontcare:
The word "Karma" according to Hindu and Buddhist relegions referes to the belief that all good and bad things that you do in this life affects how good or bad your future life will turnout to be.

Here are the 12 Laws Of KARMA and how they are applicable in our everyday lives.

1) The great law
2)The law of creation
3) The law of humanity...
12) The law of significant inspiration.

Oh you talked some more? Okay.
All these beautiful laws and you still couldn’t apply them in your daily Nairaland advising life?
Your first post is at a totally different tangent from each of these laws. If you did you would not have shamed the OP and their parents like that. You need to see this to be able to own your Buddhist truths.
Cheers

Ningen:
But yet, here you are trying to reap gauva on a mango tree. OP said “drugs” and you're saying something else about parental sins.

Thank you!

I think you need to take a lot into account, its may need some streamlined application, according to many factors
1) traits, is he like a child or like an adult in personality
2) Is he always losing concentration.
3) what type of drugs, is he using and has he given up on any drug successfully.
4) what makes him sad
5) what are the things that make him happy.
6) how did this addiction start and why was he attracted to drugs.
7) what does he think about drugs now.
what does he think about the pain he caused his mum.

But I am sure you know a lot more, it has been a long time, 18 years, sadly

Let him undergone therapy so they'll know what exactly went wrong with him, there's something that's been disturbing him for long and he needs to voice it out to the therapist if not nothing will change after that you can take him to hospital, then may be pastors can now intervene. If therapy doesn't and rehab doesn't work then it may be a spiritual issue

Ejenavi18:
I will recommend Federal Neuropsychiatric hospital Uselu, Benin city or Federal Neuropsychiatric hospital Aro, Abeokuta.
Cc: Star4ever

Aro, Abeokuta is better.
And please when he gets there, cut his excesses. Do not indulge his desires. Some parents are fond of "spoiling" their adult children by giving them plenty provisions, money etc. Let him live like an ordinary resident.

He needs to b properly rehabilitated

star4ever:
I have a 42 year old brother who for over 18 years has been on hard drugs. He started this habit while in secondary school and couldn't finish tertiary education for same reason. Efforts made by the family to stop him from substance abuse and rehabilitate him at several occasions failed. Each time such effort is made, he recovers after a while but returns to the habit. Currently, he has become mentally deranged and there seems to be no solution at sight.

He has been admitted to different psychiatric hospitals on two occasions. At both times, he was treated and confirmed fit and sound to return to the society. The moment he was discharged, he quickly went back to his old ways and all the resources spent went into the drain. In one of the occasions, we were strongly advised to engage him as joblessness was one of the greatest problem causing the abuse. We got him engaged by securing a fantastic job which he also left after a week of working there. Other meaningful efforts geared towards engaging him to enable him to become occupied and start earning a living as a man also didn’t work out.

We have organised prayer sessions by powerful men of God, nothing has happened yet. I do want to sound like someone without faith. I strongly believe that our able God will make things beautiful at His time. However, the situation has gone out of control and we need to act fast.

These, amongst many, are some of the interventions already done by the family and we cannot fold our arms and watch people mock us in shame every day due to his abnormal activities in the community.

Now what he does is forcefully, take money from our aged mum, sell any family property at sight in exchange for money to buy his drugs. Beat my mum up at any slightest refusal to give him money. He has been jailed many times for committing several offences related to this habit, yet the problem persists. Maybe we have not applied the best approach?

I am calling on fellow Nairalanders to assist with solutions. I believe there are some of us here who may have experienced this problem in one way or the other, or have an advise to give to solve this lingering painful situation. Your personal or professional experience (s) may go a long way in salvaging this situation for us.

I believe a problem shared is a problem solved.

Please get thiamine tablet, it helps in drugs withdrawal .... I'm a pharmacist u can reach me on my gmail for more assistance stevehandsome47@gmail.com

adontcare:
God is not mocked. What a man/ woman sow, that they will reap. Ask ur mum and dad what they did wrong. There must be something evil they had done that is affecting ur 42 yr brother. The bible said, train up a child in d way that he should grow and when he is old he will not depart from it. They where sparing the rod on him and now spoilt

Who's this fuuul?

adontcare:
ur opinion though. I think it's u that something is wrong with. No parent bring up a child in a proper way and reap calamities. Do well and read the book of Proverbs. Also read the laws of karma

what of Pastor's children when dey turn out wayward?

You people should rent a bedroom flat for him at any Army camp, let him serve his nation with his strength instead of beating mumsy anyhow.

salford1:
You are talking about p!mping a drug addict, and you are aslo talking about God dishing out cruelty to.someone. Apparently, you are a willing tool in the hands of the devil to cause more sorrow to the lady in question. Should we say your own time is coming too since you are a willing tool for the devil to use?

Read again
As at 5 years ago
She was looking like a million dollar bill
She never turn nonsense that time
She was damn pretty

adontcare:
The word "Karma" according to Hindu and Buddhist relegions referes to the belief that all good and bad things that you do in this life affects how good or bad your future life will turnout to be.

Here are the 12 Laws Of KARMA and how they are applicable in our everyday lives.

1) The great law; " As you sow, so shall you reap", this is also known as the law of cause of and effect. Whatever you put out in the universe is what comes back to you. If you want happiness, peace, friendship and love. Then you need to be happy, peaceful, friendly and loving.

2)The law of creation; life does not just happen, it requires our participation as we are connected with the universe both inside and out. Whatever surrounds us gives a clue to our inner state. Be and do yourself. Do what you want to have in life.

3) The law of humanity: " what you refuse to accept will keep following you". If what we perceive is an enemy, or someone with a character trait that we find to be negative. Then we ourselves are not focused on a higher level of existence.

4)The law of growth: "wherever you go there you are". For us to grow in spirit it is "we" who need to change and not the people, places or things around us. When we change our thoughts and behaviour our lives changes too.

5) The law of responsibility; " whenever there is something wrong, we can find the errors within our thinking perception". We mirror what surrounds us, and what surrounds us mirrors our lives.

6) The law of connection; "even if something we do seem inconsequential it is very important that it gets done as everything in the universe is connected". Each step leads to the next step.

7) The law of focus: " you can't think of two things at the sometime". When our thoughts is on spiritual values, it is impossible for us to have lower thoughts such as greed and anger.

cool The law of giving and hospitality: "when we believe something to be true. Then something in your life will be called upon to demonstrate the truth. We put what we say we have learned into practice.

9) The law of here and now; "looking back to examine what was, prevents us from totally being in the here and now". Old thoughts, old pattern of behaviour, old dreams. Prevents us from having new ones.

10) The law of change: " history repeats itself until we learn lessons that we need to change our paths".

11) The law of patience and rewards: " all rewards require initial toil". Rewards of of lasting value requires patient and persistent toil.

12) The law of significant inspiration: " you get back from something whatever you've put into it" the value of something is a direct result of the energy and the intent that was put into it. Every personal contribution is also a contribution to the whole. Lacklustre contributions have no impact on the whole.

Shut up and stop littering everywhere with rubbish. Fanatic !!

exactly

Zeinymira:
Aro, Abeokuta is better.
And please when he gets there, cut his excesses. Do not indulge his desires. Some parents are fond of "spoiling" their adult children by giving them plenty provisions, money etc. Let him live like an ordinary resident.

Hmm hmm...he is just an ancestral cross ..he has reincarnated to cause some trouble... like Jesus Christ said carry your Cross and follow me

star4ever:
I have a 42 year old brother who for over 18 years has been on hard drugs. He started this habit while in secondary school and couldn't finish tertiary education for same reason. Efforts made by the family to stop him from substance abuse and rehabilitate him at several occasions failed. Each time such effort is made, he recovers after a while but returns to the habit. Currently, he has become mentally deranged and there seems to be no solution at sight.

He has been admitted to different psychiatric hospitals on two occasions. At both times, he was treated and confirmed fit and sound to return to the society. The moment he was discharged, he quickly went back to his old ways and all the resources spent went into the drain. In one of the occasions, we were strongly advised to engage him as joblessness was one of the greatest problem causing the abuse. We got him engaged by securing a fantastic job which he also left after a week of working there. Other meaningful efforts geared towards engaging him to enable him to become occupied and start earning a living as a man also didn’t work out.

We have organised prayer sessions by powerful men of God, nothing has happened yet. I do want to sound like someone without faith. I strongly believe that our able God will make things beautiful at His time. However, the situation has gone out of control and we need to act fast.

These, amongst many, are some of the interventions already done by the family and we cannot fold our arms and watch people mock us in shame every day due to his abnormal activities in the community.

Now what he does is forcefully, take money from our aged mum, sell any family property at sight in exchange for money to buy his drugs. Beat my mum up at any slightest refusal to give him money. He has been jailed many times for committing several offences related to this habit, yet the problem persists. Maybe we have not applied the best approach?

I am calling on fellow Nairalanders to assist with solutions. I believe there are some of us here who may have experienced this problem in one way or the other, or have an advise to give to solve this lingering painful situation. Your personal or professional experience (s) may go a long way in salvaging this situation for us.

I believe a problem shared is a problem solved.

Bro forget psychiatric or churches. your bro is into shally which is very very hard to quit . shally is the worst of all hard drugs. I grow in ghetto so I know much about all this drugs. the only people that can cure this habit are traditional doctors. either Alfa or trado doctors. I said this based on stories have heard and seen. once someone is into shally the person own don finish I swear. I will help u find out tomorrow from one person that I know that was cure of shally .

Everything described here is typical of substance abuse. Those afflicted need to get a fix, so they end up selling anything they can lay their hands on.

Most probably your bros is hooked on coke. The signs are classical. He needs proper rehab where the staff can use methadone or some other substitute to push him past the withdrawal symptoms.

This is not a job for the psychiatrists.

somtoto:
You dont force one to quit drugs.its more of a self choice.i think wat you guys should do is to sit him down and talk to him,make him see reasons why its unhealthy for him.after that,the solutions you stated can be applied.

You are right, sadly. First thing in mental/psychological therapy is insight into the problem. He has to know he has a problem with substances. He has to know that he should quit the habit. He has to desire to get well, in essence. Then every other help can work.
Good luck OP
I am rooting for your family. You are doing an amazing job trying to get help for your brother.
May you be healed from this

Oh

[quote author=Ningen post=89675847][/quote]this is how to disown some body not the way my father does it.by just telling me he disown me and letter he will still tell me I bless you.when I do something good.

star4ever:
I have a 42 year old brother who for over 18 years has been on hard drugs. He started this habit while in secondary school and couldn't finish tertiary education for same reason. Efforts made by the family to stop him from substance abuse and rehabilitate him at several occasions failed. Each time such effort is made, he recovers after a while but returns to the habit. Currently, he has become mentally deranged and there seems to be no solution at sight.

He has been admitted to different psychiatric hospitals on two occasions. At both times, he was treated and confirmed fit and sound to return to the society. The moment he was discharged, he quickly went back to his old ways and all the resources spent went into the drain. In one of the occasions, we were strongly advised to engage him as joblessness was one of the greatest problem causing the abuse. We got him engaged by securing a fantastic job which he also left after a week of working there. Other meaningful efforts geared towards engaging him to enable him to become occupied and start earning a living as a man also didn’t work out.

We have organised prayer sessions by powerful men of God, nothing has happened yet. I do want to sound like someone without faith. I strongly believe that our able God will make things beautiful at His time. However, the situation has gone out of control and we need to act fast.

These, amongst many, are some of the interventions already done by the family and we cannot fold our arms and watch people mock us in shame every day due to his abnormal activities in the community.

Now what he does is forcefully, take money from our aged mum, sell any family property at sight in exchange for money to buy his drugs. Beat my mum up at any slightest refusal to give him money. He has been jailed many times for committing several offences related to this habit, yet the problem persists. Maybe we have not applied the best approach?

I am calling on fellow Nairalanders to assist with solutions. I believe there are some of us here who may have experienced this problem in one way or the other, or have an advise to give to solve this lingering painful situation. Your personal or professional experience (s) may go a long way in salvaging this situation for us.

I believe a problem shared is a problem solved.

He should be readmitted!!!!

adontcare:
u r on on your own

You can’t even write correct English, I wonder what your parents did that made you to be dumb. All these stupidity you are showing here I hope your kids are not punished for it.

[quote author=star4ever post=89675291]Hold his hands and speak to that evil spirit in him to leave your brother alone ...i bet you that spirit will go but will only come back if your brother body is still comfortable for him. Use salt and coconut water and wash his head. His good to go .......thank me later

I see you love your brother.. Know this for sure love always wins.

Here is my advice...

Since you said other who started together quit at one point or the other and are now leading a response life... I will suggest you take him for deliverance. You might be surprised he is under a stronghold that keeps him entangled in that horrible condition.


I am sorry your family must have passed through a lot and he must have suffered so much as well



I pray the hand of God will touch him and set him free him in Jesus name!

God bless you.

I think you should look for those churches who own or have rehabilitation center,taking him from home will really help him a lot,churches like redeemed, winner etc,you people will just be going for visiting, he will also learn any skills of his choice,never give up help is on the way

VIPERVENOM:
Take him for rehabilitation and when he gets clean take him to a different environment. He's relapsing because he's where those drugs are easily accessible.

One more thing. Don't force him. He has to be willing to get clean. Another reason why he keeps relapsing might be because he's been forced to go to rehab

I hope the OP has noted this bolded point.

star4ever:
From the last test conducted when was admitted at the psychiatric hospital in 2017, they confirmed only marijuana. However, from what we are experiencing of late, there seems to be more to that.

From his violent behaviour he obviously has gone past marijuana and advanced to cocaine or possibly heroine.

adontcare:
God is not mocked. What a man/ woman sow, that they will reap. Ask ur mum and dad what they did wrong. There must be something evil they had done that is affecting ur 42 yr brother. The bible said, train up a child in d way that he should grow and when he is old he will not depart from it. They where sparing the rod on him and now spoilt

Better to keep quiet than to write this tripe

charleybam:
at least you saw where i wrote he should learn how to meditate,no offence but from experience..it helped me alot but you can also make research about my post and see for yourself

I understand you better now and yes, meditation and hypnosis find excellent use in treating addictions.

U r just a duns

adontcare:
God is not mocked. What a man/ woman sow, that they will reap. Ask ur mum and dad what they did wrong. There must be something evil they had done that is affecting ur 42 yr brother. The bible said, train up a child in d way that he should grow and when he is old he will not depart from it. They where sparing the rod on him and now spoilt