Oh Lord!!! When am I going to have options like this?? Even job of 30k I have not seen upon my graduation since 2015 not to talk of migrating to Canada. My brother to me Canada seems to be better option o. But can u link me to the job before leaving abeggggggggggg

TheManhattan:

You can do whatever you want. Stop asking dumb questions.

Cant you have simple conversations without cursing or getting abusive?

Homextras:


Cant you have simple conversations without cursing or getting abusive?

Bleep you.

datola:
This that every one is leaving for Canada. Who will now remain to fix Nigeria

Most of you people just like to reap from where you did not sow.

And you are not going to the Canada to solve any problem for humanity but just to get 'good employment' and now pray that Nigeria catches fire and averyone remaining there should go to hell.

For those of you badmouthing Nigeria. Remember 'ajo Ko le da bi ile' (Other people's country can never be.like your own country)

By God's grace Nigeria shall be great again in my life time.

Sir/Ma I think this message is better directed to our leaders.

We only live ones in a lifetime.

No Nigerian should contemplate of leaving this country if our leaders are working and all basic amenities are in good shape.


Do you know that 90% of Nigerian citizens even more are a line away from becoming real time beggars if a serious sickness should hit them?

Nigeria has no health security. More than 90% of those who work for federal, state and even private are underemployed. Basic amenities is zero(We still use facilities built by the colonial masters donkey years ago).


Nigeria is not a good place to live in. That's just the fact, even though this is bitter and harsh to say, but it's the truth.


If I were to be OP, I won't even think twice before I zoomed off this shit hole.


I prefer to live in a country where we all work for the good of the nation. Where the government provides basic amenities and tax payers money are used daily to build infrastructure for the community.


Doesn't Nigeria make money from IGR? What does our government use the money for ?

Doesn't Nigeria get paid royalty over Oil and Gas? What do they do with the money?


A nation that is so filled with stupid, wicked and heartless leaders, where if a political leader is enthroned today and he starts building a project, once his tenure expires , the next political leader to come in will not continue with the project of his ancestor, he will prefer to start his own from scratch.

And by so doing all the resources of the electorates are being wasted just because of the greed of some low lives who were only lucky to be at the helm of affairs.


You see why this nation is so terrible. We are being led by mediocres.

Pursue federal job, mumu

TallNigerian:
Hello Nairalanders,

I will be 30 years in a few months and I have never felt so much unease as I do right now. I work with one of the federal parastatals and I am currently on level 10 going to 12 next year. I have a Master degree athough it is not exactly relevant to my current job.

The problem is that my organisation uses the Ministry salary structure and my monthly net is below 80k even as a level 10 staff.

I am not married and I am academically inclined. Asides having a Master degree, I have over 8 professional certifications.

I have been trying to clinch a transfer of service to a better parastatal where the remuneration is better and where my knowledge/experiences as a science graduate will be better appreciated but it has been a bit difficult.

However, just before the COVID-19 episode in Nigeria, I got the right link for a transfer of service to a better parastatal but the process got stalled with the COVID-19 palaver.

I have 4 siblings who are Canadian citizens and they have been on my neck to migrate. I never took the calls seriously until this lockdown period. My siblings are arguing about the uncertainty of the Nigerian economy post-covid and advising me to seize this opportunity to migrate and start a new career over there?

My question therefore, "is it wise to stay back since I have gone quite far in my public service career and just wait for the opportunity to transfer my service to a better paying federal parastatal OR do I migrate to Canada and start a new career?

Your honest inputs will be highly appreciated. Thanks!

@CrazyMan @1forall Please I need your help in pushing this forward for a wider view. Thank you.

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Currently I spend 25% of my time in Nigeria and the rest in US.

My advice: Move. Don't look back. You are single and it is the best time to take risks. You will adapt easily to Canadian life since you have siblings there who can guide you properly. Good life doesn't have to be flamboyant.

After this coronavirus pandemics, who knows what Nigeria will turn into? I had always gambled against Nigeria and won each time.

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martineverest:
u think Canadian visa is easy to get?....better stay in naija.the cost of house rent per month in Canada is far more than ur entire salary in Nigeria per month

.the world is entering recession and it will be hard in abroad in coming months

I read most of the comments and advises given to this young man, but the best is this. Many Nigerians think a out the exchange rate in Naira, to the foreign country they wan to travel to.
Dont forget there is not that is free abroad, you pay for everything and have to work extra hard and extra hours to meet up with your bills.
That is why many people doe suddenly,from exhaustion and like of rest .
Living abroad will be more difficult and more expensive, after this pandemic.
To recover from the shabby economy, many governments all over the world are tightening their budgets and people going to be in for hard times.
This is not possibly the best time to move abroad.
Wishing him or anyone else the best of luck

datola:
This that every one is leaving for Canada. Who will now remain to fix Nigeria

Most of you people just like to reap from where you did not sow.

And you are not going to the Canada to solve any problem for humanity but just to get 'good employment' and now pray that Nigeria catches fire and averyone remaining there should go to hell.

For those of you badmouthing Nigeria. Remember 'ajo Ko le da bi ile' (Other people's country can never be.like your own country)

By God's grace Nigeria shall be great again in my life time.

.

Even if not for your own good ro well being. Do it for your unborn kids.

salford1:

The maths in me did a quick calculation

For a professional to earn 80,000 naira in Canada in half a day (4hours), you will have to earn around $140,000 a year which will comfortably place that person in the top 5 percent earners in Canada - Not an easy feat. That is more like a manager/directors wage in a top organization, or a tech/engineer/tradesperson putting in extra hours/ or with decades of experience. OP seems to be in his early career. Not many professionals will earn that amount or get anywhere near that figure. In addition, around 39% of that money will be deductions at source. Then you would have expenses and bills to deal with, so we can't easily compare wages. E.g. rent alone could be as high as $1500 a month and monthly mortgage as high as $2500 for moderate living.

It may be hard to become rich in a developed country, but one would certainly have peace of mind and a high standard of living. For this paragraph alone, op should move. Everything is not about money. He should listen to his family members in Canada.

Don't know about N80k in Canadian dollars but N80k is £160 which is about half what an IT consultant or any professional consultant will earn at a mid management level which is around £250-£500 day rate. With adequate tax planning and usage of pension allowance, one can keep almost all of that.

For paid Employees a decent mid to senior management role should yield anywhere between £150 and £300 daily before tax so you can call N80K anywhere between half a day to a full day's pay, while after tax, you can call it anywhere between half a day to 2 days net pay.

martineverest:
u think Canadian visa is easy to get?....better stay in naija.the cost of house rent per month in Canada is far more than ur entire salary in Nigeria per month

.the world is entering recession and it will be hard in abroad in coming months

I read most of the comments and advises given to this young man, but the best is this. Many Nigerians think a of the exchange rate in Naira, to the foreign country they want to travel to.
Dont forget there is nothing that is free abroad, you pay for everything and have to work extra hard and extra hours to meet up with your bills.
That is why many people die suddenly,from exhaustion and lack of rest from working too hard
Living abroad will be more difficult and more expensive, after this pandemic.
To recover from the shabby economy, many governments all over the world are tightening their budgets and people going to be in for hard times. Many are going to loose their jobs, businesses, are going to fold up.
This is not possibly the best time to move abroad.
Wishing him or anyone else the best of luck

Let’s put it in context.

Nigeria, as an entity, is systematically flawed. The ‘staying back to fix the country’ mantra is untenable and futile. Your positive influence is inconsequential. You are at the mercy of a recurring, selfish, incompetent and corrupt leadership at all levels.

I was in a similar situation as the OP many many years back and forever thankful to God for making the right call. I migrated. Started from the bottom, odd jobs and all to fund my education. Two masters degrees from top universities and a decade in investment banking /technology in top global firms, I now run my own high tech firm. Here, what you become is what you make of yourself, your desire, your focus, your abilities. Unlike in Nigeria, you are not shackled by a backward, limiting system. In Nigeria, you may get to the top after many years, but can end up in abject want in a very short time. Zero social safety net. The negative factors are overwhelming- lack of security, healthcare, etc.

Dude, I attest that I suffered 10 times more discrimination and harassment in Nigeria than I have here in the UK. These advanced societies are fairer, value oriented systems. You add value, you WILL thrive. The OPs dedication to education and self development is precisely what works here. You’ll be propelled to new heights with time and commitment. Steadily. You can contribute into Nigeria as a diasporian if you so desire through projects, which is precisely what I’ve done. The Nigeria of today has zero consideration for your tomorrow.

I have run a number of models on Nigeria and can tell you it’s not looking good at all. The decline has been in precipitation for years, exacerbated by the present crop of incompetent and nepotistic leadership. It’s akin to a jog to the bottom.

The far and near term prognosis for Nigeria is troubling and unflattering

Be guided, not only for your sake, but for that of your children unborn

softplace:


why do you want to enter tech

It's because I have passion for it and I'm curious about IT world.

TallNigerian:
Hello Nairalanders,

I will be 30 years in a few months and I have never felt so much unease as I do right now. I work with one of the federal parastatals and I am currently on level 10 going to 12 next year. I have a Master degree athough it is not exactly relevant to my current job.

The problem is that my organisation uses the Ministry salary structure and my monthly net is below 80k even as a level 10 staff.

I am not married and I am academically inclined. Asides having a Master degree, I have over 8 professional certifications.

I have been trying to clinch a transfer of service to a better parastatal where the remuneration is better and where my knowledge/experiences as a science graduate will be better appreciated but it has been a bit difficult.

However, just before the COVID-19 episode in Nigeria, I got the right link for a transfer of service to a better parastatal but the process got stalled with the COVID-19 palaver.

I have 4 siblings who are Canadian citizens and they have been on my neck to migrate. I never took the calls seriously until this lockdown period. My siblings are arguing about the uncertainty of the Nigerian economy post-covid and advising me to seize this opportunity to migrate and start a new career over there?

My question therefore, "is it wise to stay back since I have gone quite far in my public service career and just wait for the opportunity to transfer my service to a better paying federal parastatal OR do I migrate to Canada and start a new career?

Your honest inputs will be highly appreciated. Thanks!

@CrazyMan @1forall Please I need your help in pushing this forward for a wider view. Thank you.

please leave that ur job and run away to Canada for God sake...

My orientation in life has always been to have a very viable plan B, no matter my current condition. You haven't even started the Canada process; do you know how long that will take? You better start the process now and continue your civil service work cos believe me you would need the fund. Lv10 80k salary, new bank staff 240k and those ones dey ja go Canada like water. My brother when u get married and have children will 80-90k help?

Bros you have no business being in Nigeria, with all the insecurity, the bad govt, bad road, bad eco system. Kai them really say some people get cap but no head while some get head but no cap. Even if you are the Director of your parastatal you just have to go to Canada for a better Life.

Pls go with ur qualifications u will make it, just forget Nigeria, even though u get better offer here, wat abt d system?

One thing u need to consider is that the so called job security in MDAs in Nigeria does not guarantee social security which is ultimate. Even after retirement, your gratuity and pension are nothing to write home about and very difficult to access because of bottlenecks and corruption. Just be deligent pursue you inter-ministerial transfer which likely guarantees higher income and then use that income pursue Travel plans. Good luck!

Totally understand where you are. At 27 years, I was doing pretty well in Nigeria. Just got married, had a nice house, lovely car, had 3 staff and an office in Port Harcourt until my wife decided she wanted us to go live in the UK where she was a citizen.
Being a patriotic Nigerian, I was not keen. Life was good here. But trust the power of a woman, few months later in was shutting up my business and relocating.
To cut the long story short, that was the best decision I made. Was it tough? Definitely yes. My first job was in a factory pushing pallets for 1 year. Was it worth it? Bro, definitely yes. I lost a business and a 7 years Honda accord in Nigeria and thought I was being stupid. Today I sit with CEOs of large firms, run 2 businesses, drive a brand new Jaguar and Mercedes, not renting and am just getting started.
In other words, move!

datola:
This that every one is leaving for Canada. Who will now remain to fix Nigeria

Most of you people just like to reap from where you did not sow.

And you are not going to the Canada to solve any problem for humanity but just to get 'good employment' and now pray that Nigeria catches fire and averyone remaining there should go to hell.

For those of you badmouthing Nigeria. Remember 'ajo Ko le da bi ile' (Other people's country can never be.like your own country)

By God's grace Nigeria shall be great again in my life time.

Bro, he didn't sow in Canada neither did he sow in Nigeria. Who no like better thing?

You said no country will be like your own?
Wow! We are all humans in one world. Moving from Ilorin to Abuja is not different from moving from Nigeria to Canada. It's still same land, same world and people with different orientation about life.

Tell me, if you are given a Canadian visa now, will you reject it?

This that every one is leaving for Canada. Who will now remain to fix Nigeria

Most of you people just like to reap from where you did not sow.

And you are not going to the Canada to solve any problem for humanity but just to get 'good employment' and now pray that Nigeria catches fire and averyone remaining there should go to hell.

For those of you badmouthing Nigeria. Remember 'ajo Ko le da bi ile' (Other people's country can never be.like your own country)

By God's grace Nigeria shall be great again in my life time.[color=#006600][/color]

I wail deeply when I read all our Nigerian youth wants to do is to run to other countries in search of greener pastures, no wonder Sowore didn't succeed, in a country with youths of this mindset, a Nelson Mandela could have rotten in jail, a Martin Luther King would have suffered like Sowore and died a nobody.
O God who will stand in the gap and suffer that the next generation will live better lives?


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Wait for things to stabilize Post Covid 19 before you move

softplace:


see nigerians love to take advantage of people, one thing you must alwasy do is stick to your price

i charge up to 1m for app and up to 500k for websites, and i maintain my price if they like they come back if they like they dont

but by Gods Grace they always come back

Bro, you over exaggerate things, 1m ko 1muller ni. and the guy did not even ask for money from you, so what advantage are you talking about? proud being!!!

and are you aware that Glo users can't access your website via chrome browser ? I was thinking you should have done research to that extent as a developer. I hope you fix that!

Oga give me the link if you don't need it!! You can relocate to Canada biko!!

TallNigerian:
Hello Nairalanders,

I will be 30 years in a few months and I have never felt so much unease as I do right now. I work with one of the federal parastatals and I am currently on level 10 going to 12 next year. I have a Master degree athough it is not exactly relevant to my current job.

The problem is that my organisation uses the Ministry salary structure and my monthly net is below 80k even as a level 10 staff.

I am not married and I am academically inclined. Asides having a Master degree, I have over 8 professional certifications.

I have been trying to clinch a transfer of service to a better parastatal where the remuneration is better and where my knowledge/experiences as a science graduate will be better appreciated but it has been a bit difficult.

However, just before the COVID-19 episode in Nigeria, I got the right link for a transfer of service to a better parastatal but the process got stalled with the COVID-19 palaver.

I have 4 siblings who are Canadian citizens and they have been on my neck to migrate. I never took the calls seriously until this lockdown period. My siblings are arguing about the uncertainty of the Nigerian economy post-covid and advising me to seize this opportunity to migrate and start a new career over there?

My question therefore, "is it wise to stay back since I have gone quite far in my public service career and just wait for the opportunity to transfer my service to a better paying federal parastatal OR do I migrate to Canada and start a new career?

Your honest inputs will be highly appreciated. Thanks!

@CrazyMan @1forall Please I need your help in pushing this forward for a wider view. Thank you.

softplace:



just go to my company websites and mail me, dont want to drop my contact here

Your website is top-notch sir, but I think you can spice it up with a more techy LOGO. I can help you with that.

Mikelarteta:
If you have the opportunity, I sincerely believe you will be better of here in Canada . Am not exaggerating, on my off days outside regular job, I do food delivery and I bet you can make that 1 month salary you make in Nigeria in 10 hours.

How can I travel to Canada bro?
I'm tired and depressed

softplace:
believe me as a tech person doing well in Nigeria, i still want to move abroad and just in a dilemma

if i should stay or go

By God grace i earn between #300 to #500k in a month but still feel i should move

i would be 27 this year sha

i almost had a job in canada but lost it because i dont save my projects on git that was what the company asked me but didnt have it to prove i did them

the reason why i don't save on git is because most Nigerians are not patient , they give you a project by 1am and expect it to be ready before 12pm, so i skip a lot of things

Which tech niche do you major? And by git, do you mean github?

olamy7:
Bro, you over exaggerate things, 1m ko 1muller ni. and the guy did not even ask for money from you, so what advantage are you talking about? proud being!!!

and are you aware that Glo users can't access your website via chrome browser ? I was thinking you should have done research to that extent as a developer. I hope you fix that!

At least you would have asked how i did it , just because you have gotten there doesn't mean you should doubt

Yes and etisalat subscribers too

Kenplay:

Exactly, am starting with Python & SQL to master Database. With this skill it will be easy for me to migrate as a skilled worker.

Cyber Security is cool
just saying

DEmejioba1:
Oh my GOD see choices, when I have not earned half of his take home at the end of a month.
Pls my God answer me before it too late, clocking 37. OLOHUN mi da si oro aye mi,ki mba won ni ise to dara lowo. It's not easy, am not finding it so soft with my wife always on my neck for so many responsibilities at home. OLOHUN mi fun mi nise to ma tan isee aye mi.

Brother, go and learn one programming language.

This will pay off in the end.

Join StartNG or contact me through email, I'm ready to put you through without collecting a dime.

Nigeria is such a useless country.

Even after the anticipated upgrade you are likely to earn 150 or less.

Your best bet - migrate to Canada.

Onlyonebuhari:
Let me tell u the simple truth, I export Yam and kola nut. The money I get from it I can't get it from Canada or the US. Let me tell u the real truth....I apply for credentialing in Canada and they have been disturbing since Monday that am qualified, they will issue work permit and Visa but I don't need it.

I have interest in this sir. Can I mail you pls.?