Fisher007:
Lol, This just makes me laugh.

Op claims that pregnancy and STD are consequences people can acquired through premarital sex . Lmao

So married people don't acquire STD's or Pregnancy abi cause they are holy and filled with the spirit.

At times you read some stuff on nairaland and you just laugh cause it makes ones day.

Everything na scam. Sex, both before and after marriage is a scam. There is no return on investment.

But since most people think marriage is all about sex. Please continue. Time will tell. Hmmm hmmm

Lol...

If a fat person is not losing weight , despite exercising, and ostensibly following a diet...and health challenges like thyroid issues have been ruled out...then there is a possibility the fat person is cheating on his diet.

The fact that a holy holy copule have ended up with STI means that either one or both of them are not being faithful to their vows. It does not mean that all of a sudden , sleeping around is ok...because someone has been hypocritical.

Stop looking to hypocrites to set your examples. Plus, there are copules who don't struggle with STI because they don't sleep around.

no sex before marriage is a scam
Argue with your private part!!!

rockstarB:
This is true, but we are hypocrite!
How many men will genuinely date a lady without asking for sex?
Men feels entitled to a woman's body, especially if you happen to be their girlfriend. It wont be hard hearing words like "you're punishing me" "you dont love me" how am I punishing you oga?
Worse off for a lady that has been involved with a guy before, men feel ladies like this do not have a right over their bodies anymore. It doesnt matter to them whether she wants to really get it right this time.

People talk about sexual compatibility, "what if we are not compatible", how many ladies or men will you sleep with before you find the sexually compatible one? What if he is sexually compatible but stingy? Emotionally manipulative, a beater and so on. Will you settle for someone like that has long as "sexually compatible"
Will you even be in your right mind to have sex with a sexually compatible patner that treats you like trash.

Sometimes we need to do a self evaluation, think about all the guys and ladies you have had sex with. Especially men, think about the ladies you intentionally lured to bed in the name of marriage, girls you broke their heart by getting them to be yours through sex; what has it profited you? Okay maybe a little boost of self esteem, but at the detriment of someone's emotional wellbeing. You can do better guys.

I am of the opinion that men and women that are genuinely looking out for partners to get married to do not put sex first, because they are aware that sex doesnt keep a marriage. It takes more than that. With all the premarital sex and sexual compatibility going on, see the rate of divorce all over the world.

Lastly, peoples view about marriage are different, there are men and women that do no want to get married, should they deny themselves sex because of this?
Abstinence is for our own good as long as both patner comes out clean, no lies.

I'm one of the few men

I concur....... I'm happy God saw me through with this, feels good to be married now


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Thank you. The truth sets you free. No sex before marriage is tough. However it remains a commandment not a recommendation from our Creator. It's not meant to be easy that's why it is a law in the first place. Do not be deceived. Strive for sexual purity. Do not let anyone guilty trip or blind fold you away from God's word.

Indeed the law of the LORD stipulates that intercourse must only happen among married couples. The question that needs to be answered is; what is marriage? When GOD brought Eve to Adam, Moses, who saw this revelation, stated the golden dictum that underlies marriage: therefore shall a man leave his mother and father and shall cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh Genesis 2:24. The word to watch out for is cleave. The word has been used in the same context in such verses as: Deuteronomy 10:20, 11:22 and 13:4 and in essence it means to be to cling to, to be joined to and we know that in the case of an intimate relationship between a man and a woman this is reflected in sexual intercourse.

Many believe marriage starts at the point where they are joined by a priest or when a man pays his bride's dowry but this isn't true. These traditions did not happen between Adam and Eve yet their union was the first marriage to have happened. Their marriage was attested to by Adams statement: "this is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man" Genesis2:23. Adam recognized the oneness he had with Eve by virtue of been taken out of Adam but in the case of all other men this oneness is reflected in the bond that exists between a man and a woman that brings both of them into a perfect synchronization.

Hence marriage commences when there is a mutual bonding or cleaving of souls between a man and woman in alignment with GOD's will and this bonding or cleaving reflects in the man making a proposal for a lifelong relationship and the woman accepts. At this point, a covenant is reached between the man and the woman. All the other traditions of the payment of a bride price, the blessings of parents, the witness of friends and family and the wedding ceremony and secondary activities built upon the covenant that started the union between the man and the woman.

Given this definition we can conclude that there are many who are wedded but not married and are married but not wedded. There are couples living together as husband and wife but they are just deceiving the world as they are just room mates living together in a single apartment. Also there are couples who have pledged their undying love and loyalty to themselves but are limited by the high cost of weddings!

We must realize that what many refer to as "sex before marriage" is actually "sex before wedding" and sex before wedding is wrong only when it occurs as a means of pleasure and not as a reflection of a bond between two people committed to each other for all times. The Bible itself makes provision for such an act. If a man happens upon a maiden that is not betrothed to any man and sleeps with her and this act is revealed, the man in question is required to pay 50 shekels of silver (the bride price obviously) and is made to be a husband to that lady for all times Exodus22:16; Deuteronomy22:28-29. Given this verdict, men are made to realize that the cost of desiring a woman not betrothed to anyone else woman is the life long commitment of marriage.

The rule hence is quite simple. If a man who has a mutual bond with a woman has intercourse with the same woman she is to be his wife and vice versa.

May God bless you

This is true, but we are hypocrite!
How many men will genuinely date a lady without asking for sex?
Men feels entitled to a woman's body, especially if you happen to be their girlfriend. It wont be hard hearing words like "you're punishing me" "you dont love me" how am I punishing you oga?
Worse off for a lady that has been involved with a guy before, men feel ladies like this do not have a right over their bodies anymore. It doesnt matter to them whether she wants to really get it right this time.

People talk about sexual compatibility, "what if we are not compatible", how many ladies or men will you sleep with before you find the sexually compatible one? What if he is sexually compatible but stingy? Emotionally manipulative, a beater and so on. Will you settle for someone like that has long as "sexually compatible"
Will you even be in your right mind to have sex with a sexually compatible patner that treats you like trash.

Sometimes we need to do a self evaluation, think about all the guys and ladies you have had sex with. Especially men, think about the ladies you intentionally lured to bed in the name of marriage, girls you broke their heart by getting them to be yours through sex; what has it profited you? Okay maybe a little boost of self esteem, but at the detriment of someone's emotional wellbeing. You can do better guys.

I am of the opinion that men and women that are genuinely looking out for partners to get married to do not put sex first, because they are aware that sex doesnt keep a marriage. It takes more than that. With all the premarital sex and sexual compatibility going on, see the rate of divorce all over the world.

Lastly, peoples view about marriage are different, there are men and women that do no want to get married, should they deny themselves sex because of this?
Abstinence is for our own good as long as both patner comes out clean, no lies.[/quote]

Well done OP
May God bless you.
Kudos to rockstarB you are wonderful

efficiencie:
Indeed the law of the LORD stipulates that intercourse must only happen among married couples. The question that needs to be answered is; what is marriage? When GOD brought Eve to Adam, Moses, who saw this revelation, stated the golden dictum that underlies marriage: therefore shall a man leave his mother and father and shall cleave unto his wife and they shall be one flesh Genesis 2:24. The word to watch out for is cleave. The word has been used in the same context in such verses as: Deuteronomy 10:20, 11:22 and 13:4 and in essence it means to be to cling to, to be joined to and we know that in the case of an intimate relationship between a man and a woman this is reflected in sexual intercourse.

Many believe marriage starts at the point where they are joined by a priest or when a man pays his bride's dowry but this isn't true. These traditions did not happen between Adam and Eve yet their union was the first marriage to have happened. Their marriage was attested to by Adams statement: "this is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man" Genesis2:23. Adam recognized the oneness he had with Eve by virtue of been taken out of Adam but in the case of all other men this oneness is reflected in the bond that exists between a man and a woman that brings both of them into a perfect synchronization.

Hence marriage commences when there is a mutual bonding or cleaving of souls between a man and woman in alignment with GOD's will and this bonding or cleaving reflects in the man making a proposal for a lifelong relationship and the woman accepts. At this point, a covenant is reached between the man and the woman. All the other traditions of the payment of a bride price, the blessings of parents, the witness of friends and family and the wedding ceremony and secondary activities built upon the covenant that started the union between the man and the woman.

Given this definition we can conclude that there are many who are wedded but not married and are married but not wedded. There are couples living together as husband and wife but they are just deceiving the world as they are just room mates living together in a single apartment. Also there are couples who have pledged their undying love and loyalty to themselves but are limited by the high cost of weddings!

We must realize that what many refer to as "sex before marriage" is actually "sex before wedding" and sex before wedding is wrong only when it occurs as a means of pleasure and not as a reflection of a bond between two people committed to each other for all times. The Bible itself makes provision for such an act. If a man happens upon a maiden that is not betrothed to any man and sleeps with her and this act is revealed, the man in question is required to pay 50 shekels of silver (the bride price obviously) and is made to be a husband to that lady for all times Exodus22:16; Deuteronomy22:28-29. Given this verdict, men are made to realize that the cost of desiring a woman not betrothed to anyone else woman is the life long commitment of marriage.

The rule hence is quite simple. If a man who has a mutual bond with a woman has intercourse with the same woman she is to be his wife and vice versa.

In Genesis 2:24, the word to watch out for is 'wife', not 'cleave'.

For the fact that a man cleaves to 'his wife' and not another, it then goes to show that before cleaving can occur, requisite cultural or traditional requirements must have been fulfilled and the couple are now husband and wife, legally.

Cleaving is permitted only in marriage. Outside it, it's an error. Spiritually and culturally.

funny people.


the Holy Books' messages are old and were meant for the old times, old humans and old world.

the mistake we are making is that we are trying to force the old messages into our current lives, that's why things are not in the same line and are contradictory.

that's why you see some people of faith and people of others never agree on one fact, cos there are obvious lapses, contradictions and irrelevances.


if the books were to be rewritten for the sake of the present times we are today, there would be a lot of editing and modification.
cos things are not as they were in the old times.

the above is for those who are making references to the book verses.

pls, no take this personal.





it still stands that no sex before marriage is not adviceable and probably, a scam.

na olosho go dey support that notion cos she knows that the coochie has already lost its taste

na micropenis man go support the notion cos he's afraid of his pencil, make the woman no run leave am.

preach all you want, people won't risk it with no sex before marriage.



we are seeing things. we don see plenty. marriages are breaking because of this.



no time.

Chatflick:
I'm one of the few men

and me too.

everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, no sex before marriage is scam, sex before marriage material scam too, all of you quoting bible scriptures like you practice what you preach.
did bible tell you to always fight who does not take your own opinion? radarada elo ọ̀ka

psyco:
Is that what your parents did?

It obvious you don't have home training. Why would you insult someone's parents because of opinion that is not originally yours!
Sex is very sweet when you are young. As you become older, you find some other interests! If you miss the sex in your youth you can never get it back! Stop listening to dead men's opinion (religion)

Troydeenney:
I knew it. I knew ladies will come up with there counter thread

I like this. How does it work? how much!

Interesting15:
For those asking "What if I discovered after our wedding that my partner do not have a functional sexual organ?"

Number one, if you are a genuine child of God, and He is the one that asked you to marry a particular person, you can be sure He won't give you a spouse you won't enjoy.

Two, If you are not sure that God is the one that asked you to marry that partner of yours, simply demand a medical check up/test. Before the wedding, in many churches, both parties must submit a medical report of things like their blood group, etc. With such, it will be easy for both parties to know the other person's body state if they are so concerned about it...

So, you see, sin can't be justified!

stop slipping trash here okey God told you to marry a none functional person or a low libido person to me sex its necessary before marriage to avoid had i know full stop

yYot:


It obvious you don't have home training. Why would you insult someone's parents because of opinion that is not originally yàaours!
Sex is very sweet when you are young. As you become older, you find some other interests! If you miss the sex in your youth you can never get it back! Stop listening to dead men's opinion (religion)

You know something is disgraceful yet you encourage it.

What the fvxk is wrong with you?

kenzysmith:
my future wife na go dey suck one guy dick on a daily basis for one side and later she go come end up with a good guy like me use the same mouth kiss me on my wedding chai

Take my advice bro. Remain single

DIVINEEVIDENCE:


In Genesis 2:24, the word to watch out for is 'wife', not 'cleave'.

For the fact that a man cleaves to 'his wife' and not another, it then goes to show that before cleaving can occur, requisite cultural or traditional requirements must have been fulfilled and the couple are now husband and wife, legally.

Cleaving is permitted only in marriage. Outside it, it's an error. Spiritually and culturally.

What is marriage then? Can you define marriage clearly?

Interesting15:
So a guy here recently published a piece claiming no sex before marriage is a scam..

At first, I was thinking he's just one of those loose guys who only justify sexual immorality because they can't be human enough to gain mastery over their bodies, and who can't control themselves and are slaves to their urges.. But I was shocked that this guy was attempting to justify an unholy act like premarital sex, with the Holy Scriptures..

I was like, JESUS, this guy must be stopped!

First of all, if you check the guy's profile, you will discover he is selling sex tools and products. Therefore, he is only trying to pervert people's mind so they could comfortably patronise him. He is aware that the Holy Words of God is a threat to the sales of his immoral sex tools, hence, he is trying to twist the scriptures for his own dirty motives.. If only he knew the danger of what he just did! Don't forget that the devil too is a master at twisting the Bible!

Nevertheless, please discard his claims.. The Word of God stands sure.. Premarital sex is a sin, because it is contrary to God's Will. God's Will is that all sexual experiences should be shared between a married man and his female wife only, in the safe circle of their marriage.

The Bible says in Hebrews 13:4: "Marriage is honorable among all, and (let) the marriage bed (be) undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge"

It means, those that indulged in premarital sex will not only hurt themselves (STDs, unwanted pregnancies, etc), but will attract punishments to themselves (and even the devil will have a chance to afflict them).

God Himself said: "...the sexually immoral...shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death" Revelation 21:8

The guy even claimed that during the time of Mary and Joseph, virginity wasn't highly regarded. That's a lie from the pit of hell! Their society was a very conservative one, and women caught indulging in sexual immorality are usually stoned to death!

The guy also claimed that you can sleep around because "God only sees a clean and a pure heart". Can you imagine! If you wear a clean white dress, won't you avoid anything that can get it stained?

In conclusion, although the world is currently vehemently corrupt (as we are in the last days), I want you to know that there are still many of us (Sons and Daughters of YAHWEH) still obeying Him and living lives of total purity. And guess what? We are happy and blessed. We are enjoying our marriages, and raising godly and responsible children.

Thank you

Interesting15:
So a guy here recently published a piece claiming no sex before marriage is a scam..

At first, I was thinking he's just one of those loose guys who only justify sexual immorality because they can't be human enough to gain mastery over their bodies, and who can't control themselves and are slaves to their urges.. But I was shocked that this guy was attempting to justify an unholy act like premarital sex, with the Holy Scriptures..

I was like, JESUS, this guy must be stopped!

First of all, if you check the guy's profile, you will discover he is selling sex tools and products. Therefore, he is only trying to pervert people's mind so they could comfortably patronise him. He is aware that the Holy Words of God is a threat to the sales of his immoral sex tools, hence, he is trying to twist the scriptures for his own dirty motives.. If only he knew the danger of what he just did! Don't forget that the devil too is a master at twisting the Bible!

Nevertheless, please discard his claims.. The Word of God stands sure.. Premarital sex is a sin, because it is contrary to God's Will. God's Will is that all sexual experiences should be shared between a married man and his female wife only, in the safe circle of their marriage.

The Bible says in Hebrews 13:4: "Marriage is honorable among all, and (let) the marriage bed (be) undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will judge"

It means, those that indulged in premarital sex will not only hurt themselves (STDs, unwanted pregnancies, etc), but will attract punishments to themselves (and even the devil will have a chance to afflict them).

God Himself said: "...the sexually immoral...shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death" Revelation 21:8

The guy even claimed that during the time of Mary and Joseph, virginity wasn't highly regarded. That's a lie from the pit of hell! Their society was a very conservative one, and women caught indulging in sexual immorality are usually stoned to death!

The guy also claimed that you can sleep around because "God only sees a clean and a pure heart". Can you imagine! If you wear a clean white dress, won't you avoid anything that can get it stained?

In conclusion, although the world is currently vehemently corrupt (as we are in the last days), I want you to know that there are still many of us (Sons and Daughters of YAHWEH) still obeying Him and living lives of total purity. And guess what? We are happy and blessed. We are enjoying our marriages, and raising godly and responsible children.

Thanks so much op for this counter post to the earlier devilish one posted.
Today I thank God that the only woman I ever have sex with is my wife. I married my wife as a virgin. I got married at 29 and my wife at 26. Both of us learnt sex together as novices and till today I cherish that moments. Even as a single and a genuine Christian, I never imagined having sex with a lady not married to me. I told myself I won't waste my holy seeds on harlots because I consider any Lady not married to me but wants sex from me a fool and a prostitute. I thank God everyday for my wife who I married as a virgin. I trust her and I salute her purity and dignity. Sex before marriage is foolishness.

These days when most boyfriends and girlfriends are having more sex among themselves than even married couples.

You would see a young girl that have been sexed to madness by her young boyfriend , either aborting like a goat or altering her hormones due to the number of pregnancy prevention pills she has swallowed.

Was it not on twitter we saw a Benin lady bitterly threatening to murder one Yoruba ex boyfriend of hers for making her to abort 24 times and then throwing her away.?

The guy's family rejected her even after all the sexual compatiblity.

if you had told that unfortunate lady to close her legs before the very first sex with that her yeye boyfriend, she would claim you don't anything.

rockstarB:
This is true, but we are hypocrite!
How many men will genuinely date a lady without asking for sex?
Men feels entitled to a woman's body, especially if you happen to be their girlfriend. It wont be hard hearing words like "you're punishing me" "you dont love me" how am I punishing you oga?
Worse off for a lady that has been involved with a guy before, men feel ladies like this do not have a right over their bodies anymore. It doesnt matter to them whether she wants to really get it right this time.

People talk about sexual compatibility, "what if we are not compatible", how many ladies or men will you sleep with before you find the sexually compatible one? What if he is sexually compatible but stingy? Emotionally manipulative, a beater and so on. Will you settle for someone like that has long as "sexually compatible"
Will you even be in your right mind to have sex with a sexually compatible patner that treats you like trash.

Sometimes we need to do a self evaluation, think about all the guys and ladies you have had sex with. Especially men, think about the ladies you intentionally lured to bed in the name of marriage, girls you broke their heart by getting them to be yours through sex; what has it profited you? Okay maybe a little boost of self esteem, but at the detriment of someone's emotional wellbeing. You can do better guys.

I am of the opinion that men and women that are genuinely looking out for partners to get married to do not put sex first, because they are aware that sex doesnt keep a marriage. It takes more than that. With all the premarital sex and sexual compatibility going on, see the rate of divorce all over the world.

Lastly, peoples view about marriage are different, there are men and women that do no want to get married, should they deny themselves sex because of this?
Abstinence is for our own good as long as both patner comes out clean, no lies.

You wrote well even though you seem to fault the men for been responsible.. everyone should take responsibility for their actions..even your gender who're mainly prostitutes won't be patronised if they refuse to sell their body

You are just taking the religious angle out of these. Its a scam. Its better to make a mistake before marriage being single than to observe your mistake being married.

Na big scam ohh!

vivilafrosh:
You are just taking the religious angle out of these. Its a scam. Its better to make a mistake before marriage being single than to observe your mistake being married.

Do you know this your point of view puts women at a disadvantage?

A man can never be satisfied. There will always be something better out there and he would keep tasting.

Thanks for visiting this topic.

Antibettings:

No be only you bro, we plenty for this table ..
All those spiri koko sis yen...
It's well

bro..the pain was too much..I swore Neva to bliv dat shit again...I can't do relationship without sex

I hear you sir

simeotexy:
bro..the pain was too much..I swore Neva to bliv dat shit again...I can't do relationship without sex

Same here bro.
Imagine, I believed that shit to the extend I almost bought a car for the lady..

OP you have spoken well. More oil on your head